The most dissapointing thing for me is that it doesn't have a original final boss.

It just feels like it cuts off, we get a taco with a waffle in it, Dr. Zomboss says his thing, and that's it. No real resolution, no ACTUAL reward after the hardest world, it's just over.

When the portals showed up in Day 1, I was so hyped when playing it. I expected a lot of things like some sort of world merging (like Modern Day on the 1st half of the lawn and a different world in another) and a PvZ 1 Zomboss-like finale boss. Modern Day is such a missed opportunity. I would be so hype if modders could somehow recreate the same energy PvZ 1 Zomboss brought but in PvZ 2

Modern Day feels like an extra world, not like a final world. There are no PvZ1 plants, only a new type of plant (shadow); there are zombies from every age to put the players to test; the zomboss is a random boss rush; and there are some old zombies that make their return to keep the originality. It's like it wasn't thought to be a regular world but they decided to make it one because they have to make the game the longest possible.

I personally feel like the game should have ended like this: Modern day is presented as the final world, but is not actually the final world. The world would have all the original stages and plants to really get the player in that “classic” mood, however, the world throughout progressively gains more and more zombies from each world along with the zombie end of the garden gaining an increasingly obvious gaussian blur effect. The reason for this being that time is getting increasingly unstable due to Zomboss’ abuse of it. Eventually, the boss fight at the end occurs. It would appear to look like the original giant robot from PvZ1 but it would be upgraded with time doodads. As the battle goes on, Dr Zomboss looses control of time, causing the giant robot to start having pieces replaced by machinery from different time periods. After Dr Zomboss’ defeat, Penny tells Zomboss that he needs to stop due to time getting worryingly unstable, Dr Zomboss says something like “I’ll mess with time all I want, I won’t be defeated again!”. Dr Zomboss uses the time warp escape thing he always did with the previous boss fights, but it doesn’t work, he uses it again, it doesn’t work. After a third usage, reality around him tears apart in a vortex, engulfing the whole screen. This unlocks the true final word, Time Twister. Dr Zomboss, after seeing just how much danger he has put himself and the world in, finally becomes disillusioned. Although reluctant, he agrees the help the player try to restore time and unwhirl the time twister. This world would be the most difficult of them all, with harsh mechanics to match the tone. This world contains the shadow plants for they naturally live in a topsy turvy world (They are shadowy, yet not nocturnal. They also aren’t sunny like most plants) and because they have the sense of community to survive a harsh climate (their synergy). The zombies would be horribly deformed, with limbs in wrong places and misshapen facial features. The special zombies that inhibit this world would be chimeric amalgamations of zombies from the previous worlds to make new threats, like a “Ragonfly-achute zombie” (It is a mix between the ra zombies, dragonfly zombies, and pilot zombies from Lost City. They drop down randomly over the garden, steal a sun, and then get carried by the dragonfly on their back). The world gimmicks I came up with would be the rifts from original modern day, a mechanic the changes the look of the level to a previous world to gain the mechanics of that world (The twister background changes to a pirate seas one to replace half the garden with planks and gaps), and a twister that appears periodically to move the player’s plants around in a fashion like a “beghouled twist swap” if you know what I mean. The final boss would show the twister garden split in half by a large, horizontal rift. This rift is the one that tore reality asunder. With Dr Zomboss on the right, and the player on the left, the objective is to defeat anomalous zombies and to let anomalous plants be destroyed by Zomboss. During each bar of “health” that Zomboss usually has, the background changes to a previous world (Ancient Egypt being first, and Modern Day being last) with this background being what plants and zombies must remain, any plants and zombies that are not from the world must be destroyed. The exact way this will happen isn’t fully thought out in my head, but it would make sense for the Time Twister to be destroyed once all the anomalies are gone. With the unraveling of the Time Twister, the screen takes the player back to the modern day. Everything is fixed. Dr Zomboss admits that his plan was poorly executed and disregarded the potential consequences. Crazy Dave gives up on the taco from the start, seeing how dangerous time manipulation is and instead settles with great tacos made by Penny’s scientific brain (or something, I don’t know, this plot line is unbelievably stupid). To celebrate the triumph over the Time Twisted, the plants and zombies have a taco party together as the credits roll. This cutscene, will pan to the same party happening over the other time periods of the game to show that even though times may change, Plants and Zombies never will. Please let me know what you think!

What if Modern Day just...acted like it did in PVZ1? Like, after a few levels, you switch to the backyard, then roof. You could use more gimmicks while still allowing players to be prepared for the level ahead.

They could have easily included pool levels from pvz1 to have them act as a mix between big wave beach using water plants and pirate seas planks and being able to knock land zombies in the water to kill them.

It’s honestly insane to me that they didn’t bring back the roof with a remixed version of the original Zomboss for the finale of modern day

The ending is genuinely embarrassing in comparison to pvz1's ending. The first ending is epic, satisfying, and climactic with 2 legendary songs back to back. In PVZ 2 you get a congratu-well done and a taco with a waffle in it

Personally my only issue with this world is that the final boss is essentially just three bosses you've already fought except the game gives you other plants to fight them with

They really should have found a way to add new worlds without messing with the timeline and story, I think that'd help a bunch in keeping the game alive. Now the only thing still keeping it interesting are the community-made mods and challenges... They should have focused on improving PvZ2 without releasing any new games, which is what most other companies do with successful sequels (with good examples being hcr2, polybridge2 and some others that I can't remember) Also I really don't think PvZ2 needed an ending, I'm pretty sure it'd still be fine if the story was altered to allow for more worlds without "stopping" anywhere, Idk tho that's probably just me

The way Modern Day is feels like they realized "Oh right, we still need to resolve the inciting incident for the story" and proceeded to mash together random bs without much thought, then tacked on the waffle taco so they could say the story is done, in the most bare minimum way possible.

"Modern day was released 6 years ago" I instantly felt my bones developing osteoporosis after hearing that

Most disappointing: No new final boss, and No Time Twister! Time Twister could have been a cool narrative, but instead it devolved into power creep city... er I mean, Penny's Pursuit.

I dunno man, when those shadow plants said “It’s shadowin’ time” and shadowed Zomboss to death, I cried. Most emotional I’ve been playing a game.

is it just me or is he saying "monday" instead of "modern day", you're triping me out man

the biggest problem i have with the world personally is that despite being the world the entire game built towards since release, it doesnt feel like a final world and nothing about it feels original, i mean garden warfare beat them to superfan imp TWICE, the only zombie that feels like a final world zombie is all star with the other 2 just being buffed versions of other zombies, the portals are like trap tiles being a very cool idea that is never used and it still shares the problem that every other world has, most of it feels like filler, the normal levels shouldnt feel like breaks from the gimmick levels, and the shadow plants just never got used as a concept after modern day and they have had plenty of time for it too. the entire world from beginning to end and plants to zombies is a disappointment as a normal world but a failure as a final world. once you get past far future it really feels like something changed with popcap, it feels like ea rubbed off on them, i mean this game has 6 times the amount of levels and barely anymore content. sorry about the block of text but everyone needs to rant sometimes and i dont have anywhere else to do it edit: i hope reflourished has more planned past steam ages because so far the 1.5 worlds they have added have been better than the entirety of vanilla pvz2 especially because the game feels fair without getting premiums

Just started playing PVZ2, I saw modern day at the end, and thought "ooh what if they bring back more of the original zombies, let you play the pool and roof levels as a huge callback to PVZ1" I should've figured it wouldn't be that cool.

I think the biggest missed opportunity here was a rematch with the original Zombot, we even already had Brainiac Maniac remixes And of course leave it to PVZ2 China of all things to actually make that a reality because the west just can’t get anything fun

The thing I hated about this world was that some of the zombie combinations being flat out unfair to deal, it’s why I seriously began to hate jester more that I should

I think nightshades powered up form acting as more of a side grade is actually a really neat idea, and gives the plant a lot of utility as you can use it as a faux insta or a cheap attacker filling in the early game

I just beat modern day this week. And yeah, I was just like “that’s it!?”No unique boss, no end credits, not even a nice reward. It doesn’t even feel like I accomplished anything

I wish we got more of the PvZ 1 zombies in modern day like bungee zombies and zomboni. Also some actual PvZ 1 plants and not just shadow plants being unlockable. I like the portal mechanic and the fact that the world is meant to bring every world together and that sounds cool on paper but it could have been done better.

I personally really liked it as a finale, aside from the bosses. Was it because of the amazing remixes? Yes.

The Zombot should have been super hard and go to at least every world once. Everytime the world changes the seed packets that roll out change. That makes it even more challenging. Would have been hella long but worth it

I remember having heard of time twister (or something in that vein) from a friend. He said "Beat all levels, then you can get a new world and if you beat it you can choose 3 premium plants and get them for free"

Feel like certain world gimmicks could have been implemented better. Like the plank system could have been implanted as ditches dug across the yard, there could have been cloudy days that blocked falling sun and brought in fog. The lawn could get flooded which would serve as wave levels.

Fun Fact, When hardmode was a thing, Zomboss did have his own unique fight, yes It did steal sprites from the Far Future zomboss, It did give us a true final boss and afterwards, dave would have gotten to re-eat his taco. Also you could have mentioned me boy Brickhead Zombie

So... not sure if this'll be noticed. But genuinely, these videos have literally reignited a spark for pvz I hadn't had since I was a kid. In a time span of 24 hours, I not only binged a Bunch of videos, but I went ahead and redownloaded the game and bear two worlds with ease! (Thank my account that had all worlds unlocked prior to it being changed). But thank you. Hadn't had this much fun with this series, and I started it off with your Peanut video of all things XD

I'm being honest time twister would of been a perfect ending for pvz2, Dave eats the taco he ate before, creates a paradox and causes time twister. you could have each level in different worlds in the first half (anchent egypt, pirate seas ect) and then some areas we didn't go to like zombcorp and Rome, before the final section within the unique world area for time twister where the world is fixed by Dave destroying the original taco or something. the final boss could of been the boss rush we see in modern day then a special final boss of the dr. zomboss fight from pvz 1. it could even use the orignal textures for the roof and zomboss to show it was the pvz1 zomboss. overall the ending of the game feels poorly executed. which is disappointing as there was so much potential especially with the time travel concept overall. i wish the game got the ending it deserved.

They don't even put a zombie time music video at the end, tragic

Doesn’t help that there’s 3 worlds worth of new Zombies released to the game later on. Those should’ve been new worlds instead of timed events (or “Thymed Events”). Even Penny’s Pursuit takes place AFTER the end where Dave gets kidnapped by Zomboss and Penny has to go after him.

A random idea I had was zombatany being one of the levels in Modern Day, and I think it could've been cool. It certainly would've introduced a new challenge into the mix.

14:57 I think the implication, given that the first plant you get here is a sun producer, is that due to all the time traveling, the timline got so messed up, that sunflower and some other plants got replaced with new ones

I personaly think monday is a terrible world because like, who in the world likes mondays? If I could change the world, I would change it to wensday because when ever wensday comes around you always feel a sense of calmness, its like you have reached the finish line and get a 2 day break. And thats my opinion on this very important arguement on pvz fanfic lore.

I really like the reflourished finales, steam ages is awesome. I think modern day should be the first world tbh, or at least half of it the start and a modern day part 2 for the end

Modern Day - Day 31 intro -------------------- dave: well neighbor... this is it. the showdown before the showdown. i hope yer plantin hands are ready for this penny: user dave, i detect a tide line on the lawn Dave: TACO! penny: DAVE THERE ARE GRAVETONES IN THE WAT- -------------------------------------------------------- level --------------------- type: locked n' loaded plants: level 4 peashooter, level 1 sunflower, level 2 wallnut, level 1 potato mine, level 4 cabbage pult, level 3 fume shroom, level 1 lilypad, level 1 blover, level 1 magnet shroom, level 1 empeach zombies: every zombie in adventure mode (including gargantuars) flags: 10 ambushes: Sandstorm! raiding party! Bug Swarm! Necromancy! Low tide! snowstorm! Parachute rain! portal rifts start to appear after the second wave after each flag, a portal will appear below a plant and will suck in plants in a 3x3 area, then disappears. after the fourth flag, Z-mech spawns after the 8th flag, cardio zombie spawns at the final wave, all ambushes happen at once -------------------------------------------- other ----------------------- plant food is disabled cannot buy plant food power ups are disabled no lawnmowers sun value has been decreased to 25 ------------------- outro -------------- Dave: nice job neighbor! now we- Dave: ! Dave: TACOOOOO Penny: user dave! don't its a tra- End level

my suggestion to improve modern day is another ending where zomboss will fight us with his classic zombot on the roof, and after being defeated, zomboss won't just give up like in the first game, instead he will pull up the hero signal making the zombie heroes from pvzh awakened, during the process, zomboss accidentically dropped his paper with a plan of destroying the suburbs using the power of zombie heroes, you will later continue to the next world which is a larger part of suburbia that you need to defend from zombie heroes, after defeating super brainz at day 35 penny will strongly suggests you to stop zomboss' invasion plan by destroying the ztech factory (from gw) you later get a map that leads to ztech factory and thats the last world where you do your last combat in 35 last levels which is in ztech factory, at the last level, you will fight the upgraded version of pvz1 zombot which can summon any zombies including zombies from events and from pvz1 not only that, the zombie heroes come back and decided to fail your plan by messing with your defenses (super brainz will shuffle your plants and carry zombies closer to your home, immorticia will turn your plants into zombats, rustbolt can weaken your plants by shooting shrink rays at them, etc.) idk how the level will end tho.

Honestly what I find most disappointing about the world is the lack of a proper boss fight. In every other world, the bosses were all, more or less, copy and pasted versions of the same fight. I was hoping that when you got to the end of the game there would be some epic final battle between you and zomboss like in pvz1, but it's just.... 3 of the same copy and pasted boss fights you've already played... that's it. That's your reward for making it to the end of this significantly harder game.

I actually don't find Modern Day as a world that bad. The shadow plants are interesting. It is cool to see old zombies from part 1 got reworked. The portal gimmick is actually pretty challenging and a cool idea, the devs just don't know how to use them. The only issue I have with this world is that it is a Finale. The ending isn't satisfying( just compare it with the end of PVZ1). They didn't even come up with an original boss. When I beat it, I didn't feel much of anything because the ending for beating the FINAL world is so lackluster.

I was expecting a final boss like a huge fusion of all zomboss from previous worlds, or al least the classic Zomboss

A taco with a waffle in it, just what I always wanted. Not like I needed a fuck ton of coins/gems/seeds as a satisfying reward

Even with how bad the world itself is… I think we can all agree that soundtrack is pretty bangin’, amirite?

I remember when this world first came out, I was so disappointed we didn’t get to fight some sort of super time Zombot at the end. The boss rush was just plain disappointing.

Besides boss battles, i only really remember 2 levels in modern day, the flower line and the lock and loaded level. Kinda sad but oh well

You know its bad when modern day is easier than neon mixtape tour or jurassic marsh. Let alone being comparable to big wave beach

My only wish is to have the lawn slowly have features from the other worlds as we progress in Modern Day

Modern day was by far the most fun I had in the entire game when it came out and was still the most fun on replay, the music remixes are amazing and I personally believe it was an amazing finale

A new creeps video is awesome: Heres why

I know we won’t get this but if the actual final update is time twister I would love it

I think the major gimmick shouldn't have been time portals, but a time shift entirely. Similar to the rising tide and lowering tide mechanic. There would be a portion of the lawn that's stuck in one time period and it would shift either left or right. If a zombie leaves, it transforms into its modern day counterpart. If an already placed plant is engulfed by the time shift (by not being placed in their time period) and they have a hardcoded counterpart for that period, then they are replaced with the counterpart, otherwise they're rendered unavailable alongside that tile until the tide resides or a zombie eats the homunculus left behind. The time period could even swap each flag just to torture you. This could allow for a much more difficult modern day by incorporating mechanics from each world. For example, it could start off with Big Wave Beach, so you'd have to worry about the water tiles. Then it switches to Pirate Seas, and then finally for the last flag, a cold breeze hits your entire lawn and you have to stave off the cold in Frostbite Caves.

I think having modern day as the final world was an excellent idea, but like shown in the video, the execution of it was poorly made. Most of the world gimmics and enemies are focussed on instantly destroying your plants, which completely ruins the point of having plants to defend, since they can all just be destroyed instantly. The portals are very interesting in my opinion, but the lack of usage, presence of the joyster that is another complete counter to most plants that you needed to guess when it appears, and the portals just appearing on the 3rd collumn for no reasons makes them either useless or rage inducing since you die from something you could never have known before. Also, not having a real final boss to the game and how the ending was is just in general poor descisions.

I think we can say that "Monday left me broken"

Modern Day did not even originally have the time rifts as one of its gimmicks. The rifts are from Time Twister, which as you can guess was scrapped - and was fused with MD instead of unused.

YES YES THANK YOU I HATE THE PROGRESSION LEVEL SO MUCH, STOP SENDING IMPS IN EVERY LANE AT THE START I HATE USING PUFF-SHROOM

tbh i really like mondays, some people hate it because its the "start of the week" but not me, i like mondays.

It’s also annoying how with the newest update. The portals don’t even show up anymore towards half way through the levels and it’s really disappointing because that’s the whole point of Modern day

Man I remember back when it came out and the concept of world stuff being mixed, I was wondering if there were going to be minecart power tiles, or even horizontal pools like the backyard to act like pirate seas days, and even spawning in Snorkal zombies/big wave beach enemies. The concept was so cool!!! and they just dropped the ball SO HARD Was also hoping for PVZ1 plants that hadn't come into play appear here. Like Gatling pea, Doom-shroom, Gloom-Shroom, Coffee Bean, & Pumpkin. I was excited to see a Coffee Bean rework, maybe temp boosting attack speed, ans the return of old plants that didn't get lost in time. The boss was also very disappointing, I was really expecting like, a cool boss that utilized time itself breaking, but nope, just three bosses back to back and... I agree, absolute dogshit ending. Wish they could've just made more worlds.

Yesssssss.... A video talking about my favorite world and why it absolutely sucked in vanilla. I know a lot of mods havent gotten to modern day yet, such as altverz for example, but the few that have made changes to it like RFLs MD expansion are absolute bangers. Here´s hoping that it can get changed eventually for these mods to improve this otherwise banger of a finale world. Also I might just start remaking MD levels myself because that would be extremely fun.

"taco with a waffle in it" is the taco Crazy dave ate at the start of the game. the whole game adventure was with the purpuse to get it again. getting it is the win condicion for Crazy dave

what does monday do with this vid💀💀💀

"A very uninteresting experience... That isn't interesting whatsoever" 10/10 script

You know what will be cool? After the day 7,start to be in the night, after day 14, start to be in the pool, after the day 21, start to be in the foog (pool in the night), and after the day 28, start to be in the roof, and the final boss be the same of the pvz1, but with plants of all ages

Why this guy is saying monday instead for modern day?

I feel like they missed out on an amazing level idea by making a level exclusively portals so you would have to deal with zombies getting a head start on your lawn also tho should give an increased layer of strategy by using plants like split pea and bonk choy or hurricale and chard guard to either shoot zombies from behind or give yourself more leeway

i love the shadow plants as a concept, and they are really interesting imo, but they really were introduced way too late.

Why do you say Monday instead of Modern Day?

The best part of this world is the Zombies on Your Lawn remix and it's also the only good part about it.

Was anyone else dissappointed they didn't remix the final boss from the 1st game?

I feel like dusk lobber was supposed to be melon but stronger simply because it was in the "final chapter" and for no other reason.

12:23 Peak video scripting

The thing about this zone is that it doesnt have a zone boss ,like it could have been the original boss from pvz1 or a combination of pvz2 bosses or pvz1 boss combined with pvz2 bosses ,and the zone itself is so much easier than jurasic and beach worlds

Shadow Plants being so poorly implemented is such a disappointment for me since the gimmick is really interesting and could’ve been really cool if done right. Also, Moonflower is so adorable, especially with the little moon wand costume.

finally someone said it!! excelent video as always

The most depressing thing about the game: No Cattail, even after so many updates

I expected the final boss to be like a huge zombot esc merge of feature from previous bosses (like the vacuum from the shark and the ice from the mammoth) but instead we got 3 reused bosses with a plot twist no one expected (you have to use plants from other worlds)

It would have been cool if modern world got progressively darker ending up at night on the last levels including the boss fight which should have been a bit more similar to the PVZ1 boss fight

as someone who has never played or been interested in PVZ2 i find these videos so fascinating for seeing what the game is somewhat like and seeing what was majority pretty lackluster. very well structured and informational aswell so good on my man

My idea of modern day: 50 levels, every 10 levels represent worlds from pvz1 and final boss is the same three boss levels but the dinal level would have og zomboss.

its odd that modern day night was not a thing. night was a thing in a PV1 so its the easiest world gimmick for modern day to use and it would appear night at the start of the level so its not like the player could never see it coming before selecting plants.

Fun Fact: Back in 2017, the devs added extremely hard levels in some worlds, and one of the worlds were Modern Day, it added 10 days, and it introduced a completely different Zomboss, it played the Jurassic Marsh theme, and the Zomboss was the tomorrow-tron from Far Future, but it summoned different Zombies in the second and third phase. Unfortunately, they removed it a few years later, but brought it back in a form of an epic quest featuring 8 of its levels, it used to give you 100 gems, but they nerfed it to 80 gems. And now they nerfed the gems really hard now, it's now 25 gems!

I feel like modern day should use portals like they spawn on the 1st flag and send you to one different world, while also triggering that world's special triggers [like egypt's sandstorm]. The zombies from before starting the level should hint you [like if you see a bunch of pirate zombies, assume you are taken to pirate ages]. Some later levels would have 2 flags of different portals [like you go to big wave beach and then far future in the same level], while levels have some starter gimmicks by default. Then, the boss should be 1 bar for each world [and conveyors keep changing plants]

i remember when after completing the egypt world, the game would give u 9 keys, so i would just play modern day and beet the first 5 levels easly with basic plants (past thing cant be dun now)

I specifically remember feeling underwhelmed when I beat PVZ 2. I was expecting the final boss to be unique from the rest of the game, even if it was just the final boss from the first game. I suppose it also didn't help my satisfaction that I used powerups to "skip" the harder and "BS"ier levels (no real money was spent, I just happened to have a lot of coins piled up). I just wasn't excited when I beat this game.

I'm still waiting for a secret final phase, I will never believe that this is the real ending of PVZ.

Video good, world bad. Now for a funny thing, I’m making a game. I use the Hollow Knight Reflections song to set up the dramatic moments as a template for when I eventually get my own music in. You used it for the conclusion about funny game of botany and zombie plague. That is very very funny to me.

i played this game the same way you'd play pvz1 and expected literally anything except what the final boss and ending were. it was actually the most disappointing ending i've seen of a game i actually enjoyed i guess it makes sense since the game doesn't really "end"? but i do really wish the reward for finishing it would've been something useful at least

I never saw it as a proper finale and more of an arc bookend like Far Future prior to it. After Far Future it didn't seem like they were going anywhere with the plot, and it was just a road-trip experience. The fanservice of the Graze the Roof remix is the only thing that feels like a closing chapter here.

A few fixes to Modern Day to make it better: 1.Make time rifts/portals appear more often, especially during Large Waves. 2.Introduce Rally Zombies from Modern Day and across time through portals, and Brickhead zombies in the main game. 3.Reintroduce the Catapult Zombie (take him out with Cherry Bombs, Magnifying Grass, Spikeweed, Coconut Cannon, etc.). 4.Reintroduce a few new zombies like a Paddler Zombie that beats plants to death, or something. Kind of like the Excavator Zombie or the Gargimp Legal but without an unbreakable shovel or a needlessly strong melée strike respectively. Also probably add a baseball bat zombie that throws or hits baseballs to damage plants gradually. 5.Nerf Dusk Lobbers when their Shadow Enhanced.

I think the main concept of shadow plants was the Moonflower giving 25 sun, being a homage to the 25 sun meta and thats about ALL the connection I have with Modern World and Shadow Plants

The concept is incredibly cool on paper, execution though is very meh. Having the main gimmick of the game as the main gimmick of the world is cool, especially the portals which disappeared 20% into the world

I'm gonna be honest, I first hoped the boss of Modern day was the Giant First Zombie Robot boss of PVZ 1 with bits of underpowered mini boss from other worlds that are controlled by Imps but nope, disappointed a lot of my expectations

I "love" how they also made Shadow Peashooter (event/season exclusive plant) like... painfully superior to other shadow plants when boosted. (lowkey please place shadow plants to dark ages)

You could have an interesting challenge run since I see a frankly absurd number of plants available in pvz2. Can you beat Plants Vs Zombies 2 using each plant ONLY once? Rules - You can only a plant once on each world. So taking wintermelon for a difficult map means you can't take it for any other maps. - The run ends when you beat Modern World finale. - The starting world is exempt from this rule Optional Rule 1) Depending on number of sun producers in pvz itself, apply that to each world specifically, so only suntoads for medieval or sunflower for caveman, etc. Optional Rule 2) If it is possible, do it with a fresh start, with a different limitation being applied only to each world itself, so using peashooters in caveman world only due to a limited quantity of plants. - Rules can be modified by the challenger ONLY if the rules as written aren't possible through mechanics, not lack of skill. (if it's literally impossible, it ain't fair or fun, so change it up to actually make it possible while keeping the spirit of the challenge) - Have fun and don't stress out over the challenge.

nerf BWB, buff MD edit: i just dont get why popcap decided to reduced the levels from 54 to 34. it was so much fun before.

Shadow Shroom should've been separate from the shadow plant gimmick Also they really should've made a proper finale than just a boss rush or a game mode that wants money and no one likes

There’s a reason why mods like Relourished existed, not only does it try to balance the game but adds new levels, new worlds, a story but also they made Modern Day better

i didnt even know what the shadow shroom shadow form did lmao

PLEASE MAKE A PLANTS TIER LIST VIDEO!

Eh, to say it completely failed as a finale would be exaggerating for impressions rather than being objective. The shadow plant rant hurt to hear. It felt like you were coming up with bad reasoning to force something bad out of them. Also "no reason to keep mixed zombies isolated to one world". It's miles better than to have zombies from other time periods in other worlds with no rhyme or reason. This is video is a poor essay, and I'm half-expecting you to talk about modern PvZ2 in the same way judging by that video ending lol