Drinker's Chasers - Our Thoughts On Echo

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Critical Drinker After Hours

Critical Drinker After Hours

6 ай бұрын

Join us for our review of Echo.

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@BeforeMoviesSucked
@BeforeMoviesSucked 6 ай бұрын
I'm a paramedic. I've attended patients in a lot of Indian reserves. The "majority diabetic" tribal population is probably (and unfortunately) the most authentic part of the show.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 6 ай бұрын
If you’re from any ancestry that gives you susceptibility to ill health if you eat lots of carbohydrates, and carbohydrate-rich food is all you can afford…
@ge2719
@ge2719 6 ай бұрын
@@markiangooley bs, if they just ate less of the food they "cant afford" they wouldnt be obese and they wouldnt be diabetic. Then they can buy a multivitamin if they need it, which cost cents. Someone being obese because they "cant afford food" is nonsense.
@jimrussell4062
@jimrussell4062 6 ай бұрын
@@markiangooley Well you CAN afford other stuff in general. Carbs (especially sugar) are just convenient and tasty. As a cook for over 20 years who buys the food, I KNOW it's a falsehood that "healthy food" is prohibitively expensive. We can provide balanced meals for large numbers of people for less than takeout daily.
@davidjuby7392
@davidjuby7392 6 ай бұрын
I was a Paramedic for thirty years and worked on two different Reservations and yes, sadly diabetes is a massive issue. I am also Native.
@ottomattix86
@ottomattix86 6 ай бұрын
Most Indians. They don't have the funds to eat more than bread, ramen noodles and mcdicks before it was too expansive
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 6 ай бұрын
I always like to point out Sarah Connor's escape from the hospital in T2 as a fairly believable case of a small woman taking on a large man. 1. He was an orderly, not a trained fighter. 2. She took him by surprise by pretending to be drugged 3. She acted quickly 4. She went for the legs to get him off his feet 5. She armed herself with his baton to take him out. There was nothing physics defying. It took away his physical advantages and ended things quickly.
@SeSeReRfRf
@SeSeReRfRf 6 ай бұрын
It's almost as if movies in those days understood how to actually make female action stars believable and actually work within their strength and size disadvantages against men, as in they had to be more clever in their approach to these situations, opposed to modern disney having women take on multiple men twice their size. As the old saying goes, characters are only as smart as their writers
@MrDmthomp32
@MrDmthomp32 6 ай бұрын
Also Sarah Conners was in shape and looked the part! She was ripped up for T2
@christophergillette7167
@christophergillette7167 6 ай бұрын
The modern focus on absurd girl-boss silliness helps no one, and it has almost certainly caused some women, girls, or skinny guys to take dumb risks when they *should* have instead run for their lives screaming for help. The Sarah Connor scene might have led someone somewhere to survive by fighting smart when they otherwise would have died. By contrast, the MCU is sending some dumb and dangerous messages.
@mew10521
@mew10521 6 ай бұрын
I agree
@AndrewThoesen
@AndrewThoesen 6 ай бұрын
6) she was literally training for that moment the entire time she was in the facility. Doing push-ups and chin-ups to stay in shape. Whether that would work is debatable, but she escaped because of her character
@ephraimwinslow
@ephraimwinslow 6 ай бұрын
We're about 1 bad week from seeing Timmy from Southpark mount up on a jet-powered wheelchair to fight microaggressions.
@Thermool
@Thermool 6 ай бұрын
And that chair will have god levels of armaments
@matteoorlandi856
@matteoorlandi856 6 ай бұрын
That would be Amazing... If made by south park.
@jasond130
@jasond130 6 ай бұрын
First they need to change it "Tammy"
@thisisnotachannel
@thisisnotachannel 6 ай бұрын
Matt and Trey will NEVER let that happen.
@brockdavid
@brockdavid 6 ай бұрын
That literally happens in South Park: The Fractured, But Whole. “MICROGGRESSION! Hit Him!”
@captain-brickhead8317
@captain-brickhead8317 6 ай бұрын
I love how even the bad guys took the time to learn sign language to kick a deaf womans a$$- they’re very considerate and truly reflect the gangsters of our time.
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 6 ай бұрын
“Whoa whoa guys. She’s deaf. It’s not very sportsmanlike if we don’t tell her we’re gonna beat her ass. Thankfully, I’ve signed up the whole gang for ASL classes. Just cos we’re bad guys doesn’t mean we’re *bad guys,* fellas”
@YouLousyKids
@YouLousyKids 6 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the show. THAT is next level lunatic.
@Braindeadevilash
@Braindeadevilash 6 ай бұрын
That's like being a rapist that carries condoms and mints with him wherever he goes...
@mosesdouglas4325
@mosesdouglas4325 6 ай бұрын
The reactions alone on this entire MCU shit is way more entertaining than anything the Rat could make.
@haroldb1856
@haroldb1856 6 ай бұрын
Disney is fighting against the stereotype that goons and thugs are insensitive.
@lawrencetalbot8346
@lawrencetalbot8346 6 ай бұрын
That fact there are so called marvel fans who think this is just as good Netflix’s daredevil is just sad. Just proof that some people will watch literally anything on tv.
@theinsurance2450
@theinsurance2450 6 ай бұрын
So true. I call them the sheep
@floooowandereese
@floooowandereese 6 ай бұрын
Just consume the product, and get excited for next product
@_CPP_
@_CPP_ 6 ай бұрын
The things I liked about Echo was Daredevil and Kingpin. That's really it
@CMCAdvanced
@CMCAdvanced 6 ай бұрын
People that have brain degeneration need content to watch too!
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 6 ай бұрын
@@_CPP_ Yeah, but they are done so poorly in this :(
@c.p.browne6871
@c.p.browne6871 6 ай бұрын
Wait... Echo in the comics is deaf, not an amputee. Her power is she has photographic reflexes (hence 'Echo'), which would be nigh impossible one-legged. Do the 'writers' think giving her double disabilities on top of being a minority female sends her to the top of the progressive stack?
@TaoScribble
@TaoScribble 6 ай бұрын
I'm 100% convinced that this was purely a virtue product and that they DGAF about the character. After all, they said that her powers were boring or lame (can't remember which), so they changed them entirely. And then they hyper-focused on ASL and her heritage.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s what they think.
@DuneStone6816
@DuneStone6816 6 ай бұрын
The actress has a prosthetic leg in real life, so they decided to write that into the character. That is the only reason she is an amputee. I suppose the diversity points didn't hurt either.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 6 ай бұрын
​​@@TaoScribbleYes, her powers are "lame". Echo can fight as good as Daredevil and aim like Bulleye just from watching them. She's a virtuoso piano player despite being deaf because she saw a great concert pianist one time. What a lame power to have.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
@@TaoScribbleThey changed nearly everything about the character from the comics: they changed her powers, her tribe and made her an amputee. Let’s be honest here, the show wasn’t done for any kind of love for the comic book character at all.
@S4ns
@S4ns 6 ай бұрын
The dumb thing is, If they had left Echo's original power set, Hired someone who could actually act, Hired a fight choreographer who had a pulse, Backed off focusing on the heritage and instead focusing on how Echo felt after leaving Kingpin's employ and trying to put her life back together, Left Kingpin as a badass violent actual threat instead of huge gaping vagina. This might have possibly been a decent show. But no. Disney gonna Disney.
@GalaxyOfBoltz
@GalaxyOfBoltz 6 ай бұрын
Stop making so much sense!!!
@lonewolf9578
@lonewolf9578 6 ай бұрын
See this is the criticism I like There’s potential in almost everything Disney Marvel tries to do They just don’t use that potential because their writers are hacks
@Janzer_
@Janzer_ 6 ай бұрын
what is this a poem? what's with all the line breaks 😂
@lonewolf9578
@lonewolf9578 6 ай бұрын
@@Janzer_ it’s called a list
@paulianhodgson
@paulianhodgson 6 ай бұрын
Disney has the opposite of the Midas touch. Everything they touch turns to 💩
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 6 ай бұрын
Since she's totally deaf, she can easily be defeated by just turning off the lights or hitting her in the face with a high lumen flashlight, thus rendering her blind and deaf and incapable of fighting back or defending herself.
@Tevi_L7151
@Tevi_L7151 6 ай бұрын
Deaf people actually still feel the rhythm with their bodies. Well, for example, in the same way that you can feel the shaking of a building with your feet
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 6 ай бұрын
@@Tevi_L7151 Won't be enough, but if you want to insist, then toss in a boom box with the base cranked up so all she'll feel is the rhythm of the beat.
@Scoley01
@Scoley01 6 ай бұрын
Az is absolutely right. The editing in the show is terrible. The fade in fade out’s scene transitions were killing me. I kept thinking the show was about to go to commercial break.
@StreetPreacherr
@StreetPreacherr 6 ай бұрын
And if you looked closely, that fight at the roller skating rink was STICHED together from MULTIPLE takes of what was MEANT to look like a seamless shot... It looked like a KZfaq video where they've trimmed out bits of speech, but since they're in the same spot you almost don't notice the little 'jump-cuts'!
@kyotheman69
@kyotheman69 6 ай бұрын
your mistake there was even watching this trash
@alexnclips6790
@alexnclips6790 6 ай бұрын
CW show
@nicky2coats
@nicky2coats 6 ай бұрын
If you don’t let white men working on your project, you’re gonna have mixed results.
@velvetinedrapes4359
@velvetinedrapes4359 6 ай бұрын
It reminded me of the Star Wars fight where the red dudes fight Kylo and Rey.
@swaginton1180
@swaginton1180 6 ай бұрын
I felt what made black widow work so well as a female fighter is just how flexible, agile, and skilled she was/was portrayed, using techniques reminiscent of Taichung and kravmaga to use the weight and power of her opponents against them. She gave off the impression that despite the clear strength gap of her fighting against a mob of men much bigger and stronger then her that even put in that situation I would not only expect her to win, but I BELIEVED she could win and UNDERSTAND HOW she won. The fact that they portrayed this deaf, one legged tiny woman as a fucking strength-sentric brawler of all things without any real super strength powers is baffling. Like she can copy fighting techniques… so what? Your mostly going up against goons and shit who at most are gonna know some boxing. You gonna copy there boxing and out box the 200 pound 6,2 wall of muscle?
@Janzer_
@Janzer_ 6 ай бұрын
this one using TaiCHUNGUS
@mrrodriguezHLP
@mrrodriguezHLP 6 ай бұрын
And at minimum, we get a super soldier explanation for Widow's above average strength and athleticism.
@abhijithis9424
@abhijithis9424 6 ай бұрын
And Nat also fights by any means necessary. She hits someone with a wrench, bites clint , punches Bucky in his balls. She is quick and precise and delivers a very strong sting. She was very believable. All other female heroes after her has been garbage
@godabandonedthistimeline
@godabandonedthistimeline 6 ай бұрын
​@@abhijithis9424Don't put Jessica Jones with all the other garbage we got
@harlannguyen4048
@harlannguyen4048 6 ай бұрын
Who said she has to copy her immediate opponent? In the comics, she copies techniques and stores them for later use. She can apparently play the piano because she watch a performance of a piano player once.
@och70
@och70 6 ай бұрын
Drinker: “We have all watched Echo.” Me: “You have my deepest sympathies.”
@dbf1dware
@dbf1dware 6 ай бұрын
With regard to the slow fight scenes, I am reminded of the VERY intentional slowness of a fight scene in Get Smart. It was hilarious. It was especially hilarious because the actors moved in slow-mo, not the camera. And they made it blatantly obvious. Fantastically funny, but it was SUPPOSED TO BE.
@NoahGooder
@NoahGooder 6 ай бұрын
plus that was an actual comedy and you knew it was a comedy.
@dbf1dware
@dbf1dware 6 ай бұрын
@@NoahGooder Oh, and you could tell it was a comedy because it MADE YOU LAUGH.
@1974Carnage
@1974Carnage 6 ай бұрын
Given up on Disney plus, but they should have had an end credit where Rocket sneaks in and steals her leg 😂
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
Well, just there you proved you are smarter and more creative than the writers for Echo. She’s supposedly disabled, yet neither her lack of hearing nor her missing leg do more than minorly inconvenience her, and her opponents never take advantage of the fact that she has an artificial leg that can be taken away from her. They might as well just made her “able” for all they didn’t make creative use of her disabilities.
@1974Carnage
@1974Carnage 6 ай бұрын
@neillindgren8992 ah, but you're forgetting that she's a strong independent woman, which is like 200% in comparison to a straight man, so even with a gimpy leg, she's still 175%, or if you're using woke algebra, that makes 300%
@GeoffryGifari
@GeoffryGifari 6 ай бұрын
Brings me back to the good memory of kingsman's "gazelle" that's a badass amputee if there ever was one
@lorddolamite6141
@lorddolamite6141 6 ай бұрын
The main character of Steel Ball Run is a horse-riding cripple that can use his fingernails as bullets when he uses his pointer finger.
@GeoffryGifari
@GeoffryGifari 6 ай бұрын
@@lorddolamite6141Never heard that title, but sounds damn cool
@GodOfPlague
@GodOfPlague 6 ай бұрын
​@@lorddolamite6141sounds awesome
@TaoScribble
@TaoScribble 6 ай бұрын
I haven't watched the show, but I feel like the reason they never target her fake leg (and why signers are _everywhere,_ if I'm understanding correctly) is because the show is afraid to "offend" or come of as "insensitive". But instead it just ruins believability because no one looking to physocally hurt you is going to give a crap about speaking your language. And they *_absolutely_* are going to go after the glaring 'weak point' that is a fake leg.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
That’s the point with a series wanting to be dark: the bad people have to be offensive and unlikable. It’s also the point with superhero tales: the hero has to be challenged by the villains, best by going for his weakness. To overcome weakness of mind and body is part of the hero’s journey. If everybody just tries to not offend the hero, the story loses also any verisimilitude as the stuff becomes just ridiculous. So yeah, obviously some people should have openly mocked her for being deaf, some villains should have destroyed her fake leg, just to gloat and see her humiliated. Her overcoming these obstacles is what would make her a memorable character and a strong message. But yeah, the show wasn’t produced for anything but to show how virtuous the people at Marvel are … fake and holier than thou, but hey, at least liked by their peers on x-itter.
@ArseniyShved
@ArseniyShved 6 ай бұрын
I could be totally off the mark, but I vaguely remember in one of the Punisher seasons there was a scene where Curtis - Punisher's amputee friend - gets his ass kicked by his own fake leg and I do not remember outrage over that.
@fiction5559
@fiction5559 6 ай бұрын
​@@ArseniyShved Yes, I was going to comment that myself in reply. Curtis was beating up Lewis but then the guy used his own fake leg to beat him down. And there was no outrage then for sure. Disney is just stupid.
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 6 ай бұрын
Critical Drinker and Bros: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?" Echo with sign language: "I AM THE HYPE!"
@Red-zh7vq
@Red-zh7vq 6 ай бұрын
There’s a tempest in her
@hexenhammer483
@hexenhammer483 6 ай бұрын
Queenhype
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 ай бұрын
Except that Vegeta is actually entertaining to watch.
@ValyrianPrince
@ValyrianPrince 6 ай бұрын
@@Red-zh7vqthat will not be quenched by you racist 😂
@wvanyar1801
@wvanyar1801 6 ай бұрын
The thing that frustrates me is the American Sign Language relies on facial expressions to add an emotional tone to the signing. The face is what most people do with the tone of the voice. It is how serious or light the signed words are conveyed. Also Sign Language is not universal. Someone that knows American Sign Language but goes to a different country, Mexico, does not work. Oh, you can communicate and get your point across but it is like taking one year of Japanese and trying to hold an in-depth conversation in Japanese, with a native speaker. You are going to get some strange looks and make some social mistakes.
@KairosPrime786
@KairosPrime786 6 ай бұрын
I find the fact no one just takes her leg hilarious given that we've actually seen that done in The Punisher. Curtis is a big fucking guy but during his fight with Lewis after he caught him in that murdered fake vet's house, Lewis takes his prosthetic leg off and beats Curtis. Fuck me I don't like Disney lmao.
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 6 ай бұрын
Need Rocket Raccoon to show up. lol, he has a thing for that
@meancanadian6764
@meancanadian6764 6 ай бұрын
I was thinking that myself
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
That would require creativity and the writers actually caring about what they’re writing, not that the script doesn’t get totally mangled by the directors, producers, and Disney management even if they were good and did care.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
And they are right, it’s a missed opportunity to put her into a tight situation that would challenge her. We all would feel for her having to get out of there without the leg and could be surprised by her ability to improvise and adapt. Villains should attack the heroes weakness and the heroes should have to overcome that.
@CMCAdvanced
@CMCAdvanced 6 ай бұрын
I'm as excited for Echo as I am for Abby in TLoS season 2
@justlivin2499
@justlivin2499 6 ай бұрын
Easy solution to both, don’t watch it, live with your headcanon in tact
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t watch TLoS. After having seen some reviews, it started to dawn on me that the video game was the better version of the story and I hence don’t need to watch the series. PS: I don’t acknowledge Abby and whatever kind of fever dream Ellie had. TLoS is a one and only game, no sequels exist.
@MundaneThingsBackwards
@MundaneThingsBackwards 6 ай бұрын
@@davidgantenbein9362 Mauler and co certainly thought it was genuinely good if not great. It's certainly worth checking out for that reason alone. I'm not because I'm not interested in supporting a show with a bold faced agenda that will eventually end up disappointing. That's just me though.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
@@MundaneThingsBackwards I don’t doubt that the series is ok or good, I just think that the changes I heard of are bad compared to the original game. It’s a kind of „I don’t want my memory of the game be diluted by a series“. Unlike i.e. Sonic or Mario, is TLoS already quite cinematic as an experience. So making a series out of it isn’t per se a completely new experience. So I doubt that I miss a lot here.
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p 6 ай бұрын
Btw, they cast a really pretty actress for Abby and ugly one for Ellie...
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 6 ай бұрын
It would have been better if Echo’s origin story was she lost her leg to a One-Armed Bandit.
@joriankell1983
@joriankell1983 6 ай бұрын
So a slot machine? Like the ones at Indian casinos? That WOULD be funny!
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
Ironically, it would be far more realistic than what we got. The writers Disney hires are so sheltered and naive that they don’t know anything about how things in the real world function. Windshield’s don’t break like that.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 6 ай бұрын
@@neillindgren8992 Jokes aside it actually would. Even the dumbest Marvel Stan could tell you that dropping a heavy object on you is gonna hurt.
@NathanCassidy721
@NathanCassidy721 6 ай бұрын
@@joriankell1983 Yep. "One-Armed Bandit" is British slang for a slot machine.
@joriankell1983
@joriankell1983 6 ай бұрын
@@NathanCassidy721 the hell is a marvel Stan? Is that like an average Joe?
@yendor0001
@yendor0001 6 ай бұрын
Echo : the damned near endless repetition of a RBF. She's just the Native American version of Ashoka. From bored to smug in under 3 seconds. Oh, I think there may have actually been a grimace from time to time. But Ashoka is much more openly emotional... she crosses her arms and stuff...
@justlivin2499
@justlivin2499 6 ай бұрын
Live action Ahsoka you mean, she is a far cry from the animated version of the character (an actual good character)
@yendor0001
@yendor0001 6 ай бұрын
@@justlivin2499 Absolutely. Rosario Dawson is a good actress. Loved her in the Netflix Marvel shows, but as Ahsoka... she just crosses her arms and stuff, which is fine... unless that's ALL you do. Smug, arms crossed. Then she crossed her arms and looked smug. Then she crossed her arms WHILE looking smug. Not much in the way of emotional range.
@MundaneThingsBackwards
@MundaneThingsBackwards 6 ай бұрын
More like she's a version of Captain Marvel who's a version of Korra from Avatar. This insufferable version of the Mary Sue trope has a long, long history. It's hysterical how lazy these douchebags are.
@kylesawkon4074
@kylesawkon4074 6 ай бұрын
@@yendor0001I didn’t even watch the show I didn’t realize people were still watching lol
@colealia7988
@colealia7988 6 ай бұрын
They’ve fallen so far since Daredevil and it hurts so much to see…
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 6 ай бұрын
True, and considering how bad Daredevil was, that's really saying something.
@rustythecrown9317
@rustythecrown9317 6 ай бұрын
@@jasongrundy1717 The first daredevil was better than you believe... it became a piece of crap thanks to ''The Message''.
@tjames4597
@tjames4597 6 ай бұрын
Daredevil was consistently great. Fucking hell.
@jayrum7303
@jayrum7303 6 ай бұрын
@@jasongrundy1717you didn't enjoy the Daredevil series? Wow you must be hard to please.
@BFG100
@BFG100 6 ай бұрын
​​@@jasongrundy1717 I'm thinking She-Hulk might be more your thing
@Uncle_Touchy
@Uncle_Touchy 6 ай бұрын
Being a Marvel fan is just an abusive relationship; "This time it'll be different! I know they'll change!"
@FTChomp9980
@FTChomp9980 6 ай бұрын
That how it goes every time I tell a Disney Star Wars Fan and they say the same thing! Star Wars is dead has been dead for a while.
@AmeliaBodilia
@AmeliaBodilia 6 ай бұрын
I call it The Battered Fan Syndrome. 😂
@SGxShadow
@SGxShadow 6 ай бұрын
Maybe I did cook the steak too long… maybe I could have had their clothes prepared better for their work…
@redchariot4006
@redchariot4006 6 ай бұрын
Lol, literally
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 6 ай бұрын
@@AmeliaBodilia Accurate
@Pepesilvia267
@Pepesilvia267 6 ай бұрын
Yes Charlie wasn’t a great fighter in season 1 of daredevil but he was so committed to doing all the fights that he practiced so much that eventually he was doing most of the badass in season 2
@StreetPreacherr
@StreetPreacherr 6 ай бұрын
You mean he cared enough to put some effort into improving his performance? Instead of gaining 20 pounds during a hiatus and needing to have their costumes altered? I guess she had pretty good 'job security. Imagine the difficulty finding ANOTHER Deaf Native American Amputee actress!
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
@@StreetPreacherrWell, that’s what happens when a company restricts themselves to only using actors of exactly the same groupings like race, gender, disability, etc, to play a character of those groupings. If they try to go for a home run and have a character that checks multiple check-boxes, they end up with a small pool of actors to choose from (often leading to hiring people with dubious acting skills), and they’re out of luck if they need a replacement. Not that I feel sorry for Disney for all the problems their politically correct casting has brought them - if I’m crying for them, it’s because I’m laughing at them so hard.
@gelchert
@gelchert 6 ай бұрын
And the makers of the Netflix show were smart enough to work with Cox’s limitations. The fight choreographers gave him a few moves he was able to do; the casting director found a stunt double that looked and moved like him; and the writers left his mask on the whole time and set most of his fight scenes in the dark, so it was easy to hide when they swapped him out for his double. That’s way too much work for Current Year Disney.
@stevenscott2718
@stevenscott2718 6 ай бұрын
@@neillindgren8992 Deadpool 2 killed a stuntwoman by inisiting on highing a stunt double that 'matched' a character (had to be a women and black a very small pool of talent) and she wasn't good enough to do the stunts.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
@@stevenscott2718 I totally believe that. Modern Hollywood for you.
@ianthibeault404
@ianthibeault404 6 ай бұрын
I feel like the cousin should have been the one to get the ancestral powers. They're still a dumb and stereotypical but she's one of the only actually good people in the family. She's a fire fighter, she constantly tried to reach out to Maya when she moved to New York. Meanwhile Maya has killed people at Fisk's command and is the reason her childhood home was even under threat.
@gamermike24
@gamermike24 6 ай бұрын
They simply don't want the bad guys to come off as ableists. That's why echo never loses her leg.
@TaoScribble
@TaoScribble 6 ай бұрын
I'm convinced that's the actual reason.
@DuneStone6816
@DuneStone6816 6 ай бұрын
I wish they had been so concerned about the Dora Milaje in FatWS.
@EliSkylander
@EliSkylander 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't want to make the bag guys seem like bad guys. "Come on, even Kingpin isn't an ablist sexist misogynist, why can't you white men just do better?" I miss the '90s.
@gamermike24
@gamermike24 6 ай бұрын
@@EliSkylander Precisely. Bad isn't bad anymore, just misunderstood. It's almost as if the good guys are actually the bad guys.
@backgroundnoise9310
@backgroundnoise9310 6 ай бұрын
These clips are way more fun then the actual show.
@farharbor3178
@farharbor3178 6 ай бұрын
I've said in other areas ... Drinker, Az, Bonebridge ... Gary, Disparu, Razorfist et. al ... Yes, these videos are more entertaining than the episodes they discuss. But not only that--taken together as a niche, micro industry--I'm willing to bet they get more views and organic interaction reviewing an episode of Echo or Ashoka or etc .... than the episodes of Echo or Ashoka or etc. get.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 6 ай бұрын
Echo, flapping her hands: *who are you?* Blue Eye Samurai: I'm you, but better and no Mary Sue.
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 6 ай бұрын
Blue Eye Samurai: I actually earned my fighting skill from a literal lifetime of constant training backed by a single minded desire for vengeance against the evil men who wronged me and my mother. How did you get yours? Echo: I’m deaf, and if you’re a man that’s good enough for me 🥴
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I heard the sign language is actually wrong at times! XD
@Gaiden-Shinji875
@Gaiden-Shinji875 6 ай бұрын
Remember when Curtis was fighting Lewis in Punisher season 1, and Lewis grabbed his artificial leg after struggling to get it before using it to knock Curtis out? Yeah, that fight was good. Two trained soldiers and one using his opponent's weakness, a disability, to his advantage and win despite not necessarily being the more skilled fighter
@AldousTyler
@AldousTyler 6 ай бұрын
Per: the fighting: this is why in pro wrestling, it is well known that you need BOTH people in a match to be talented and capable so that neither one has to carry the match for the other.
@dwaynewillis8173
@dwaynewillis8173 6 ай бұрын
I watched Dredd instead and it was awesome. Carl killed that role💯
@lorddolamite6141
@lorddolamite6141 6 ай бұрын
YoU nEeD tO see thE actors face thO! That chin carried that movie.
@dwaynewillis8173
@dwaynewillis8173 6 ай бұрын
@@lorddolamite6141 his chin did more acting than Bri Larson's last 3 movies😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👊
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 6 ай бұрын
Karl Urban can do more acting with his chin and lips than some actors can with their whole body
@SolarDragon007
@SolarDragon007 6 ай бұрын
The fools who made the Halo show should've watched that film.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.AccessIt’s actually true. It’s uncanny how easily he is to recognize despite the helmet and how easy he is to read … and I mean being stoic is the whole deal of Dredd, but Urban manages to sell the stoic with the emotions below. Love that ending, when she thinks that she failed despite it being obvious that he thinks differently. It’s uncanny how Urban sells that scene.
@YouLousyKids
@YouLousyKids 6 ай бұрын
That scene from Daredevil where Kingpin suddenly attacks that guy in the limo? Incredible. I am not a Marvel comic book reader and I never really "got" why Kingpin is a big deal, but D'Onofrio convinced me. All Disney is doing here is exploiting the hard work done by other creators under other auspices. I believe if they ever got Spider-Man back they'd find a way to make it suck.
@tylergoodman3560
@tylergoodman3560 6 ай бұрын
That wasn't Echo; that was a cheap knock-off with the Echo label slapped onto it. I feel embarrassed for even knowing this show exists. 🎉
@paule4566
@paule4566 6 ай бұрын
This show perfectly represents the new Marvel brand.
@Death_MTL_Dude
@Death_MTL_Dude 6 ай бұрын
Patchy the Pirate: “That’s it? That’s the entire series? THAT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF CHEAP JUMP CUT CYCLES”
@Elaborance
@Elaborance 6 ай бұрын
''new''@@paule4566
@IstariAzul777
@IstariAzul777 6 ай бұрын
Me too. The very word Disney makes my skin crawl n feel mild nausea at this point It’s beyond just brand damage ; it’s definitely cultural sabotage but liked lame attempts at social engineering, propaganda and my guess is fully by design
@thejigisup326
@thejigisup326 6 ай бұрын
Mom: We have Echo at home. Echo at home: ...
@binweiss8297
@binweiss8297 6 ай бұрын
Anyone notice in the first episode when she dozes off while riding her bike, what wakes her up? It was the horn of a truck. On top of that, it was the horn of a truck that traveling in the same direction, why would that driver even know she was asleep?
@wesleystockford2616
@wesleystockford2616 6 ай бұрын
Not watched it, but if she is deaf why would the horn wake her up?
@binweiss8297
@binweiss8297 6 ай бұрын
The writers need you to get all the way off their back on that one.
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the highly professional, creative, super-intelligent elite Disney writers. What masterpiece writing. 👏 Well, I suppose that’s what you end up with when you make up a show as you go along.
@DuneStone6816
@DuneStone6816 6 ай бұрын
Just watched that scene. Was it the horn that woke her up, or the bright lights she drove too close too? Either way, the scene is poorly conveyed and the truck seems to honk for no reason.
@stevenscott2718
@stevenscott2718 6 ай бұрын
@@DuneStone6816 haven't watched it but a steelman guess, I would honk if i was driving and saw someone drifting, either to wake them up or warn other drivers shit was about to go down.
@53kenner
@53kenner 6 ай бұрын
In WW2 there was a one-legged British fighter pilot named Douglas Bader. He ended up as a German POW and after some escape attempts his captors confiscated his wooden leg... So, yeah, it's a fairly obvious solution.
@eddhardy1054
@eddhardy1054 6 ай бұрын
Totally correct...except Bader lost both legs in a plane crash.
@user-cl8ge7hc4b
@user-cl8ge7hc4b 6 ай бұрын
In the fight with daredevil, the actress has no composure or grace at all, she poses instead of holding a stance. The legwork is telling. It makes me cry tears and scream. 12 years of getting yelled at in the dojo and I have to see THIS shite! I am gonna convert and become a berserker of Khorne if I have to watch it again...
@pandalover900
@pandalover900 6 ай бұрын
Our god demands blood, brother.
@user-cl8ge7hc4b
@user-cl8ge7hc4b 6 ай бұрын
Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!@@pandalover900
@NarrativeArcade
@NarrativeArcade 6 ай бұрын
I said this before but this show is the woke equivalent of movies produced under the Hays Code of old Hollywood. It's just a checklist, not a show. And you can't do anything interesting with it because it goes against the woke Hays Code. When I saw that fight scene that went viral, I thought it was a sparring session lol Considered making a video on it but what's the point? Decided to revisit older movies.
@roberthayes7737
@roberthayes7737 6 ай бұрын
The Hays Code actually forced writers to be creative and sneak things past the censors. Wokeness obliterates any possibility of being subversive. I'd take the Hays Code back in a heartbeat if it meant we'd do away with the current "politically correct" regime.
@NarrativeArcade
@NarrativeArcade 6 ай бұрын
@@roberthayes7737 yeah, I agree with that too. I meant more that the Hays Code hurt the overall industry and people flocked to international productions. I just hope something better rises from the ashes like it did with old Hollywood. But the current crop of writers, I know a few as I'm mostly an indie screenwriter but it's the damn narcissism and lack of life experience that kills everything. I worked first as an automation technician before I got into screenwriting and editing. I would not hire someone with a solo writer resume but that's all we get now. Cookie cutter CVs.
@Eametsa
@Eametsa 6 ай бұрын
In sparring you actually hit your opponent.
@steventwist1435
@steventwist1435 6 ай бұрын
Sign language worked in Fargo season 1 with subtitles between the 2 hitmen, 1 deaf one not. They played with it because sometimes there were subtitles and sometimes the other hitman translated, which built tension, humour and intrigue. Extremely well done. So why couldn't they pull it off here?
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
That’s the difference between talent and no talent.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 6 ай бұрын
It takes effort and SKILL
@StreetPreacherr
@StreetPreacherr 6 ай бұрын
I just didn't understand why they had the actors speak in WHISPERS while signing to her? If they need to sign then I guess that means she CAN'T READ LIPS? So if the speaking was just for the viewer's benefit, then why not have them speak at NORMAL VOLUME? And maybe I've just been misled by movies/tv, but she's been deaf since BIRTH but NEVER learned to READ LIPS? IS LIP READING harder/less common than I've been led to believe?
@blackosprey2219
@blackosprey2219 6 ай бұрын
Gotta make the Representation as obvious as possible if you're catering to midwits who can't follow a plot.
@DuneStone6816
@DuneStone6816 6 ай бұрын
What bothers me more is that the show subtitles all the ASL dialogue, even when the speaker is talking out-loud while they sign.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
I really only have limited experience with deaf people. But the person I knew was able to read lips (though we usually would really try to pronounce it well for him to understand, don’t know if it makes a difference though). Nobody at that job knew how to sign and I actually never saw him using sign language, so I don’t even know how good he was at that. Sadly he never learned to speak properly, but I was told that this was mainly due to his age and that with younger generations nearly all of them would learn to speak. That’s about my experience with deaf people, but I imagine the USA to be different given their healthcare system.
@lorddolamite6141
@lorddolamite6141 6 ай бұрын
Just remembered that yet again, Japan does it better again. The main character in an anime called "Ranking of Kings" is deaf and they handled that WAY better than this affront to God. Everyone in his inner circle uses sign language, although, unbeknownst to them, he picked up lip reading somewhere along the way.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see how the Japanese would handle a character of aboriginal ancestry, an Ainu. There are maybe 25,000 people in Japan who know they’re Ainu, but perhaps ten times or more that many who have Ainu ancestors but don’t know it.
@lorddolamite6141
@lorddolamite6141 6 ай бұрын
I could be wrong, but a series called Golden Kamuy has one of the central characters come from a tribe. Not sure if it's the one you're referring to.
@RecluseBootsy
@RecluseBootsy 6 ай бұрын
Problems with disney is they're doing the same trick over and over and expecting new waves of applause and adoration. How many strong, deaf women of color have been dropped into the Marvel Universe since TWD loaned out their diversity hire? 3, 4x in a row? Then they turn around and objectify Matt and make cringe blind jokes right after apologizing for being insensitive. 😂 They also introduced a paraplegic in the MCU then immediately snapped his neck because he's the Patriarchy. What amazing and diverse representation. Bucky is an amputee and got shit character service throughout TFAWS. Disarmed by Wakandans, told he doesn't know anything about struggle because he isn't black but then immediately gets arrested based on an assumption that he's a Russian agent absconding from probation (prejudice). The pandering just gets worse the further we go on.
@LunarSpiral1127
@LunarSpiral1127 6 ай бұрын
​@@RecluseBootsyBucky deserved better.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 6 ай бұрын
The Wikipedia article on the Ainu does mention a few anime and manga with Ainu characters, I now see…
@KTPinto
@KTPinto 6 ай бұрын
I was watching the TV show Hercules from 1995 and I thought that the special effects and fight scenes were better then than Disney is today! So sad!
@maxsommers6843
@maxsommers6843 6 ай бұрын
Xena totally eclipsed Herc in that department around the end of the first season. And both those shows were doing that on a *fraction* of the budget Marvel has for these Disney+ shows.
@rickmather7062
@rickmather7062 6 ай бұрын
Not to be rude but, could she not have gotten in better shape for the role? You're playing a comic book character with a 6 pack afterall. Jackman, Gadot, Hemsworth etc all got absolutely cut/jacked for their roles, of you know, superheros. Maybe I'm asking too much for someone to commit fully to the role they've been casted for.
@DeMarisM
@DeMarisM 6 ай бұрын
Being fit is a sign of far right extremism. Ask any democrat.
@juliushall8499
@juliushall8499 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you didn’t know getting healthy and fit is a far right viewpoint? EDIT
@rickmather7062
@rickmather7062 6 ай бұрын
@@DeMarisM Smh lol, its like Drinker throwing on claws and excpecting us to believe he's Wolverine. Sure he's white and has a beard, but theres more to it
@LunarSpiral1127
@LunarSpiral1127 6 ай бұрын
I heard the actress was pregnant at the time.
@mrrodriguezHLP
@mrrodriguezHLP 6 ай бұрын
I don't know about Gadot, but all those guys were saucing to look the way they did, and that's just for the sake of schedules. Natty ripped is a full time job, worse if you've never been an athlete. I wouldn't push roids on a woman, but I wouldn't cast someone who had zero stunt or fight experience.
@frocat5163
@frocat5163 6 ай бұрын
Villains are routinely written as if they're less intelligent than they would need to be in order to be a legitimate threat. I think we can all apply suspension of disbelief to still enjoy the media in which those villains appear. But having villains rendering Echo unconscious and then _NOT REMOVING HER PROSTHESIS_ is absolutely nonsensical. if you capture an enemy with a prosthetic leg, you're definitely going to remove that prosthesis.
@chrisking8579
@chrisking8579 6 ай бұрын
There would be no movie lol😂
@majorgoobie5123
@majorgoobie5123 6 ай бұрын
My favorite part is where Echo said its girlbin' time and girled all over the place.
@joriankell1983
@joriankell1983 6 ай бұрын
*signed.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
If I got the talk about the ending right, your description seems to be 100% on the money for the finale. 😮
@dimesonhiseyes9134
@dimesonhiseyes9134 6 ай бұрын
As an Indian, yes I said Indian I prefer that name to whatever is politically correct now days. I was really embarrassed about this show.
@elvolta6
@elvolta6 6 ай бұрын
Good for you, man. I’m native too. The term Indian comes from Columbus calling the ancestors “Una gente en Díos”. “One people in God.” That seems like a term of endearment to me if anything, not an offensive or triggering term.
@RecluseBootsy
@RecluseBootsy 6 ай бұрын
Don't worry, there were no Natives in this show. They're fictional aliens skin-walking as North Americans tribes. 😂 Whoever thought that shit up should get shit-canned. It was just as cringe as Africans making ape noises and fighting underwater Aztecans.
@user-yq9im9dk9z
@user-yq9im9dk9z 6 ай бұрын
​@@elvolta6 so the whole Columbus thought he found India is a myth?
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 6 ай бұрын
​​@@user-yq9im9dk9zHe didn't think he was in India. He's wasn't look for India; he was looking for the Indies. Today they're part of INDonesia.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it's just because I'm a white devil but an Indian whose superpower is to "call on her ancestors" seems like such a stereotype that it's outright racist.
@ayadealjanabi1544
@ayadealjanabi1544 6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you guys endure that pish so I don't have to! 😂🎉
@IMAMONGUS
@IMAMONGUS 6 ай бұрын
What a great group!! Love to see George and the Bonebridger!
@fuzzy8593
@fuzzy8593 6 ай бұрын
Awesome to see Bonebridger on your stream/channel. Big fan of his for a while now, and his calm delivery.
@captaindropkik
@captaindropkik 6 ай бұрын
What's super interesting about the conclusion of "taking his pain away" is that they did that exact same thing at the end of Legion Season 3, he'd become too powerful so they just go back and purify the little baby version's memory
@19RaxR91
@19RaxR91 6 ай бұрын
I really liked Legion, but imo the ending was a major cop out.
@hello_newman3116
@hello_newman3116 6 ай бұрын
Loved The first 3 seasons of legion. That first season especially, creepy antagonist
@kabukidad82
@kabukidad82 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely underrated antagonist, genuinely scary ​@@hello_newman3116
@manicpixiefangirl4189
@manicpixiefangirl4189 6 ай бұрын
No you guys don’t realize, they’re saving Daredevil so they can humiliate him to prop up ANOTHER girlboss hero. Why waste two on a character they obviously don’t actually care about? Disney’s all about maximizing the MESSAGE. My money’s on them making Elektra their new girlboss obsession. They’ll forget all about Echo, chuck her out like a broken toy, and move on to the next thing they can suck dry.
@LN-Lifer
@LN-Lifer 6 ай бұрын
I think I know how Disney is going to pull out of this slump 1. Make horrible content 2. YT names get big watching so we don't have to 3. More bad content 4. More YT channels 5. Disney sees a rating resurgence because the number of You Tubers exceeds "the rest of us"😂
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 6 ай бұрын
KZfaqrs, critics, shills and hate watching will keep Disney+ afloat 😂
@dcarr8816
@dcarr8816 6 ай бұрын
The problem is they went for the wrong check boxes. They felt it was more important to find an actor who was female, Native American, deaf and had only one leg…..that’s a VERY small pool of people with acting experience to draw from, and in fact, I believe she HAD NO acting experience! Would have been better to find a Native American actress with martial arts fighting skills and then just coach her in ASL and CGI the damn leg.
@seanmckelvey6618
@seanmckelvey6618 6 ай бұрын
Nah, because that would have been a smart & and rational decision and Disney doesn't do that.
@jonathanmartin3767
@jonathanmartin3767 6 ай бұрын
The Netflix Daredevil series made anything disney makes just watered down. The Netflix series just did not care about the violence or language. They created good characters with great stories and developement. There was zero pandering in any of those series, Jesicca Jones , Punisher, and Luke Cage.
@sollytom6266
@sollytom6266 6 ай бұрын
The CG Daredevil, beginning at 7:50. Besides the unnatural movement, when he's on his feet, his legs are also oddly stubby for a moment.
@ninja51n
@ninja51n 6 ай бұрын
What I find interesting is that my feed is suddenly showing me more and more videos of channels against the GG crew and openly apologizing and cutting down Critical, Ryan Kinnel, AZ, Mauler and SW theory. The shills are really trying to make this shit good. Anyone apologizing for this show or the Rey trilogy needs their heads examined
@rosss7007
@rosss7007 6 ай бұрын
Got an ad for Echo when I clicked this.. Disney is trolling 😂
@doublep1980
@doublep1980 6 ай бұрын
About the crappy fight scenes: they didn´t bring back Philip Silvera & Chris Brewster, the stunt/fight coordinators of the Netflix DD series, neither will they work on the upcoming Daredevil: Born Again series, despite the fact that these guys have stated numerous times, that they would love to work again on a DD-related project for the MCU. And they have actually done work for other MCU projects recently. That speaks volumes....
@superionmaximus9900
@superionmaximus9900 6 ай бұрын
The final fight with Echo against Kingpin must have been written by the one living person that thought Star Trek V The Final Frontier was the greatest film ever made. She wasn't really channeling her ancestors, she was channeling what was considered shit Star Trek before Nu Trek taught us what shit trek really was. She basically turned into the despised brother of Spock no one knew existed until that film, Sybok Then she proceeded to mind meld with Kingpin to take away his pain just like Sybok did to his cult followers in that film. Her super powers are basically that of an insane Vulcan.
@pierrebousquet2898
@pierrebousquet2898 6 ай бұрын
The best quote from that movie is:"Why God needs a spaceship?"
@jlev1028
@jlev1028 6 ай бұрын
I was reminded more of Cloak, whose powers in his show involved taking his victims to their most traumatic memoroes.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 6 ай бұрын
SERIOUSLY?! O M G XD
@hodgemann
@hodgemann 6 ай бұрын
I watched Blue Eye Samurai instead and have no regrets!
@jacotromp59581
@jacotromp59581 6 ай бұрын
Look, I am very happy that Disney, Marvel, Pixar and DCEU is making my favorite KZfaqrs some money, but for fuuuck sakes I am tired of all this bad news, bad shows and shit movies. There must be good movies on the way we can talk about. I am probably the only one of 10 people excited about the new Hellboy movie, but we hear nothing about that, but all news seem to be Disney related. I know why, because the algorithm are pushing this content, but can we try this year to change the algorithm to search for good news??
@SideShowDisaSter
@SideShowDisaSter 6 ай бұрын
His portrayal of Kingpin in Daredevil was on fucking point
@donaldlabriola4441
@donaldlabriola4441 6 ай бұрын
Great discussion. George is an outstanding addition to the group.
@drgonzo305
@drgonzo305 6 ай бұрын
I hope to god Jon Bernthal does not return to a Disney lead Punisher. I waited my whole life for a proper Punisher and I got 2 seasons and a good part of a Daredevil season. I can’t deal with that being ruined. I wish I got more but I don’t even want to think of seeing what Disney will do to him. Thankfully he seems principled enough to walk away
@davidmarsden192
@davidmarsden192 6 ай бұрын
Chris Brewster was brilliant in (Netflix) Daredevil. He (and Charlie Cox) together really were instrumental in making Daredevil so awesome!
@lynz223
@lynz223 6 ай бұрын
When you guys talk about her prosthetic leg all I think about is Rocket asking Quill to get that guys leg in the G.O.T.G Vol. 1. Rockets reaction after Quill brings him the leg and it was a bullsh*t task 🤣👏🏻
@Sasquatch-Mountain
@Sasquatch-Mountain 6 ай бұрын
Just finished The Curse, Pretty wild show...🤔
@Flitalidapouet
@Flitalidapouet 6 ай бұрын
My fav review was the castles, weapons and armor guy Edit: it's Shadiversity, but on his movie review channel called Knights watch .... he was furious about Echo. LOL
@eddiebruv
@eddiebruv 6 ай бұрын
Shadversity?
@Flitalidapouet
@Flitalidapouet 6 ай бұрын
@@eddiebruv yep, his review channel is called Knights watch, go see is Echo review, worth every seconds of it
@Flitalidapouet
@Flitalidapouet 6 ай бұрын
@@Anoneemus_Noenayme Yea but it's on his movie review channel called "Knights Watch"
@NR-rv8rz
@NR-rv8rz 6 ай бұрын
The odd thing is just how similar in some ways her face is to the actor who plays J.K.Rowlings 'Strike' detective who also has a prosthetic leg.
@epressos
@epressos 6 ай бұрын
I don't wanna ruin my perception of Kingpin and Daredevil with this show. Thanks for watching it, I dont have to suffer
@matthewsengendo6302
@matthewsengendo6302 6 ай бұрын
Seeing the bonebridger here is soo heartwarming he truly has worked his ass for this & he is just getting started
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 6 ай бұрын
Lucky for me, I'm totally apathetic about modern entertainment now. I'm currently watching Smallville again, and it's very good.
@soloalien5
@soloalien5 6 ай бұрын
I actually got an ad for echo before the video. Amazing.
@zekromfan1
@zekromfan1 6 ай бұрын
Echo is a strong independent woman who don’t need no foot. Can we all agree that Disney only released this show because if they canned it the media would give them hell. You know Disney was looking at Echo and was seeing the tax write off right in front of them thinking “damn we fucked up” Disney’s loosing billions and they just lost Micky Mouse, they’re definitely bleeding. And where there’s blood, corpses are soon to follow. I can’t wait for Snow White to come out, this is going to be hilarious, and then there’s the Rey movie, that alone gives me hope that something fun will happen. I wonder which will happen first, will the Rey movie release first, or will Mewbshlie release TFA part 6, I guess only time will tell.
@jschap712
@jschap712 6 ай бұрын
They will NEVER have a baddie take her leg away, or have someone take advantage of her deafness to sneak up on her, because they will NEVER admit that giving a character a disability or two or three without compensating for it (as with Daredevil) is inherently a disadvantage.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 6 ай бұрын
Hope they keep Punisher out of this mess. He's too good for this shitshow.
@onionhat745
@onionhat745 6 ай бұрын
Modern ninja Punisher from the comics would fit in fine. Marvel intentionally ruined him, it was truly a good business move.
@colten53
@colten53 6 ай бұрын
I have zero faith that Disney will get Punisher right. I don’t even think Netflix got him completely right for that matter either in his own series. In my opinion the most accurate portrayals are in War Zone with Ray Stevenson and Daredevil season 2
@darienford860
@darienford860 6 ай бұрын
Echo was able to take out an army of men but couldn't handle 2 hill billy women with one being a Melissa McCarthy look alike. 😂
@dcmastermindfirst9418
@dcmastermindfirst9418 6 ай бұрын
The mcu is dead
@andrewbyrne2173
@andrewbyrne2173 6 ай бұрын
@@dcmastermindfirst9418no it’s a zombie. Which is worse.
@dcmastermindfirst9418
@dcmastermindfirst9418 6 ай бұрын
@@andrewbyrne2173 Oh I see. A reanimated corpse.
@Dangershoes
@Dangershoes 6 ай бұрын
Also, got me wondering why he attacked during the day. He normally uses the darkness to his advantage.
@mg2537
@mg2537 6 ай бұрын
Haven't watched it and wont watch it. This just confirms that i'm making the right decisions. At least i'll continue living knowing that Vincent as Kingpin is still marketable.
@swangaming6845
@swangaming6845 6 ай бұрын
Glad to see Bonebridger on here!!! Hope he's on more upcoming episodes
@AmeliaBodilia
@AmeliaBodilia 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact… There are over 300 different sign languages that vary from nation to nation. ASL is not understood by all deaf people.
@lorenzog7811
@lorenzog7811 6 ай бұрын
I can't hear you
@michaelfields7088
@michaelfields7088 6 ай бұрын
So happy to see Bonebridger here!
@btk03z19
@btk03z19 6 ай бұрын
The best Native - Indigenous character ever created was NIGHTWOLF from MK!!!!!
@Trewq79
@Trewq79 6 ай бұрын
I half expected this to be a 3 second video that just says "It's really bad".
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 6 ай бұрын
I kind of like the leg-hold kick, but that's only something a bad guy does at the end of a beat-down to show off OR slowing the film down to show off a quick kick that was held back to "store power".
@timwhite5562
@timwhite5562 6 ай бұрын
When are you guys going to invite Greg Owen on the panel? I think he's the most entertaining new media critic of the last year.
@patricialynn6327
@patricialynn6327 6 ай бұрын
Compare this fight scene to those in Reacher. Those women were in shape and made the fights seem real.
@smoore6461
@smoore6461 6 ай бұрын
That Echo daredevil fight was very like Asoka and Anikin fighting. Yes 100%, it was like watching someone's Gran playing street basketball with a 17 year old.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 6 ай бұрын
Summoning her ancestors? Who wrote that, Ben Garrison?!
@mercurialfunk2552
@mercurialfunk2552 6 ай бұрын
It's a better version of her power than her original one. She's just female Taskmaster, it's very bland
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 6 ай бұрын
@@mercurialfunk2552 summoning her ancestors sounds... kinda racist.
@mercurialfunk2552
@mercurialfunk2552 6 ай бұрын
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 Our definitions of racist are very different
@timothymoss5007
@timothymoss5007 6 ай бұрын
Man, I do miss Jon Bernthal as Punisher. He was freaking awesome.
@alseid8709
@alseid8709 6 ай бұрын
To be fair, the "hold the kick" thing is because it's the prosthetic leg and she's holding it back so it has more impulse than it otherwise would when she releases it for the kick.
@Donorcyclist
@Donorcyclist 6 ай бұрын
Like when you hold your finger with your thumb longer to really charge up that power flick! 🤣🤣🤣
@Gn3rd
@Gn3rd 6 ай бұрын
Even if that was their intent, it still looks clunky as hell because the framing and lighting just makes it look like the choreography is shit.
@alseid8709
@alseid8709 6 ай бұрын
@@Gn3rd Yeah, I get that too. Just wanted to point out it's not just a weird thing they did for no reason, it had an intent and a logic, just not well executed.
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher
@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher 6 ай бұрын
I thought she had just missed the quick time event
@WrestlingMV69
@WrestlingMV69 6 ай бұрын
Kingpin is one of the GREATEST villans in comic history and Disney Marvel has cucked him
@sgtbrown4273
@sgtbrown4273 6 ай бұрын
worse than will smith.😂
@lochnesslegends
@lochnesslegends 6 ай бұрын
Love you guys! 💯🫡
@justlivin2499
@justlivin2499 6 ай бұрын
At least it made the Netflix show canon, that’s about the only thing that was done right
@_birdie
@_birdie 6 ай бұрын
Cool seeing the Bonebridger on after hours.
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 6 ай бұрын
A couple years ago, I watched an intergender wrestling match. The woman was jacked, but not too tall. The guy was a former WWE mid-carder playing bigger fish in a smaller pond. Now, objectively the guy is pretty big by real world standards. By pro wrestling standards, he's medium size at best for men. He carried her so obviously, it was painful to watch. She was so much slower. His reactions to her weak blows were so fake and over the top. He was clearly jumping during every toss. They even threw in a NO DQ, weapons allowed stipulation and it didn't really help. Worse, she was the face and he was the heal, so she couldn't "cheat". It really doesn't work without some believable fight choreography.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 6 ай бұрын
Probably was better than THAT if we consider the resources at hand, don't you think?
@JREHangzhou
@JREHangzhou 6 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this conversation to double check to see if I wasn't crazy and other people were thinking the same as me.
@WallyBChamp
@WallyBChamp 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I like some comic and easter egg channels. All the comments loved the show. I thought I was the oddball heheh.
@em0_tion
@em0_tion 6 ай бұрын
12:49 Best description of this show ever! 👏😂
@X3nophiliac
@X3nophiliac 6 ай бұрын
all im remembering with this show is the RLM review of Darkman, directed by Sam Reimi, and theres a man with a gun leg and you had him hopping around in the middle of fightscenes when his friend took off his leg to use it as a mchine gun....man this show wouldve been SO FUN if they did something like that 😂
@jarfulres
@jarfulres 6 ай бұрын
What is the app you use for these streams having all the people on the screen together with a cool background?
@spikeforce
@spikeforce 6 ай бұрын
So echo reaches the Avatar state then takes away Kingpins bending... I mean source of his strength?
@1970jayjayc
@1970jayjayc 6 ай бұрын
All episodes (4.5) launched and hopefully forgotten by the time I’ve posted this…. It would be good to see you and the gang focus and talk about your favourite movies/shows I saw Godzilla Minus 1 and the Holdovers this week. Both were entertaining and so well written with rounded characters you actually believe in and root for.
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