Sick

Which would turn Christ into predator since John was a teen. Blasphemy.

@@archimandritegregory7730 considering how often it happens when dealing with the rainbow group, I highly doubt it was an accident. 3=33 when dealing with that group.

Self seekers

@@archimandritegregory7730 How old was St. John?

And quiet. Very quiet.

😂

He’s a manifest heretic who should have been excommunicated a long time ago.

How about sackcloth and ashes. He’s leading souls to hell.

The largest Catholic universities in the U.S. & probably worldwide - are Jesuit universities where this sort of thing happens all the time. Presidents Biden, Obama, Clinton and Nancy Pelosi all Jesuit educated and the so-called Catholic ones attend Jesuit parishes. Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Again & unfortunately this happens all the time. 👎🏼

@@aahlstrom93 I prefer to define myself as former SSA but you’re free to call the sin with the proper Biblical definition. Just be kind to those who repented and converted. There are already many people hating us, most of our former friends.

Not all members of the Lgbtqa+ are gay some are bi attracted to both some have a different gender identity to the he norm and some are on the asexual and aromantic spectrum.

​@@lorenzolozzigallo2589 Has your attraction ceased, or have you merely achieved self-control in that matter?

Perhaps then you could watch some fellow Jesuits influencers right here on YT, they're but one click away, like the one who learned Lakota better to take part in sweat lodge rituals, giddy with this own accomplishment, the ones that write scurrilous fanfic about the most holy and then, preach sistaah! and then quote Stonewall quoting Protestant Bishop Spong, line for line, for their justification. I mean l'm just an ignorant sinner, but l do my due diligence within my limited capacity, you are highly trained and have a higher calling ...

@@veronica_._._._ Doesn't sound like those KZfaq videos are for me. Why do you watch them?

@@FrJohnBrownSJ To understand, as it's about a balance in life, Just the same as l skim and scan formal texts before l settle down to read. Obviously this comes 1st Matt:26: 40 - 41 ... Watch and pray ... and then l watch catholic channels online and pray, l see a suggestion "The 2 communions" which is a sober title that wouldn't normally lead one to believe that if you randomly sampled a few points you would hear an enthusiastic endorsement of "Great White Spirit" ceremonies, but this is how we live and learn, by being prayerfully open to experience and diverse points of view. And being a faithful watcher. By keeping the lamps lit and the wicks trimmed. Fascinating how you are trained to dialogue btw.

Dear@@veronica_._._._, bless you. I am glad you are praying for those who are stepping into dangerous areas for the sake of the Gospel -- that the Lord Jesus be preached everywhere

@@veronica_._._._ I'm a little lost as to what you are referring to. I've never heard of the 2 communions or the great white spirit. In any case, I'm more inclined to starve evil spirits than to engage with them if they are outside of my personal field of view.

That's a great point. I'd imagine if the devil was physically able to walk the earth he wouldn't present himself as an outright heretic. He'd likely dance around truths and be more of a false prophet.

It's far less severe, but it is worse in a way, certainly it may lead astray those who would never consider following a defrocked priest

"Evil takes advantage of ambiguity" - G.K. Chesterton

@@mad_marc2757 Love that quote! Chesterton is the man.

@@mad_marc2757 In L’Osservatore Romano (April 12, 2013), Cardinal Walter Kasper admitted that ambiguities were deliberately inserted into Vatican II documents.

He’s Catholic and is required to give his religious assent to its teaching. The fact that he teaches in opposition to the church makes him apostate. He should be corrected directly by the pope and if he does not correct his teaching and repent for those he’s lead astray then he should be excommunicated.

@@mikazoftstrom2343 Francis supports Martin.

@@littlerock5256 obviously. I’m saying this is what the pope should do not what I think he will do.

@@mikazoftstrom2343 "The fact that he teaches in opposition to the church makes him apostate." This describes Francis as well.

@@littlerock5256 once Francis is dead, it will be ascertained. If we stick to the Bible and the patristics, we should be fine.

People so stupid that they deny dinosaurs existed because of how they read Genesis 1 do more harm to the public image of the church than this guy.

Unfortunately, I doubt Pope Francis will say anything until Fr. Martin starts saying TLMs.

@@tafazzi-on-discord They hate us because the j*wish media tells them to. Christians can say anything and it will be spun in a negative light, it's the world we live in since the world wars.

Trads don't make it easy to be sympathetic with their cause and I lean trad myself.

@@atrifle8364 I think you’re putting the cart before the horse. Trads have been slandered and dare I say persecuted at all levels of the church, and the laity seems to have no problem doing the same. Trads have legitimate grievances. Even here, you seem to have no problem lumping millions of God-loving Catholics into one box. I think the people criticizing trads need to look in the mirror, because far too many seem to feel as if they have permission to say whatever they want about trads regardless of the truth.

PwA did one, might interest you

@@c_xela yea I saw but Matt just said KZfaq took it down already lol

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Yes

@@nathanhays1866 he restarted the live stream on Rumble. Go subscribe over there.

He has to repent.

@@kzbaby2002 yes of course. Let us pray and do penance (fast, works of mercy, voluntary self-denial, etc) for that intention

@@clara.dewi_widya I’m very busy doing all that for my daughter. I’ll pass on JM. I do pray for the priests I know personally and I pray generally for all of them. But JM doesn’t occupy my mind at all. Uncharitable? Maybe.

@@kzbaby2002 if Father JM repented, he will save many souls 🙏

There is something sinister here. James Martin is not the only one, here in Brazil we have basically the same problem with Julio Lancelotti, the "red priest", for his support of socialist politicians, LGBTQ+ theology and ideology and his critique of traditional catholics. Never once he was censored by our Bishop, while Father Quevedo, a genius and very good Jesuit priest was censored for banalities, the same thing happened with Father Paulo Ricardo, excellent professor and apologist who was censored for speaking the truth. Not only that, we have priests and BISHOPS who are openly disciples of Leonardo Boff, the Liberation Theology professor and theologist who was censored by Pope Benedict XVI. We need to pray more for the church

They rely on that error.

@@ReverendDr.Thomas the sin of presumption is to presume one is destined to heaven (the logical conclusion of such presumption being the self-indulgence to commit this or that error). Looking at nature, that genitals do fit together and produce children (and do also bond the persons equipped with them) and reasoning forth that sexual intercourse outside of marriage is in error, is in no way presumptuous, no. Your addition of "slave" as a pejorative in no way strengthens your position, either; if anything it weakens it because the hiding of weak logic behind forceful rhetoric betrays your own insecurity, "reverend doctor".

I bought into it for years I can tell you how folks believe it: (1) It's a sorta wishful orientation of a worldview, people don't want to think that certain things are wrong (nor do they want to condemn the actions of those around them) and hence they will jump through hoops to justify these things, this wanting of a certain ethic can blind people to the unsoundness of their thinking or even their general moral intuition, I certainly made some ridiculous leaps in logic to uphold immorality. (2) Connected to that is the culture, the secular sexual ethic is so commonly ingrained in our heads from childhood that the traditional ethic strikes people as utterly absurd. This cultural influence is often somewhat subliminal. That's my explanation for how folks today believe this stuff so easily from having lived in that world.

I think you absolutely need to be religious to take your position. The consensual sexual act is amoral and i’d argue that two people taking care of each other, whether gay or straight, is moral behavior. And what makes sex inherently better within marriage is beyond me. Why? It’s about the relationship people have with each other, and not whether they are married or not. M

@@vaskaventi6840 please explain to me the moral dimension of the sexual act between two consenting adults?

@@maxmaximus2608 there’s nothing religious about the fact that sex produces a child. There’s also nothing religious about the fact that life begins at conception. There’s also nothing religious about the fact that children do far better with their biological parents together in the same household. All of these we have scientific data on. If you know all that the logical consequence is not to have sex casually and only with the person you decide to spend your life with whether you call it marriage or not. Again I get temptation and obviously people care more about their orgasm than they do for their offspring. All over the world, marriage is and was a thing due to sex leading to children and casual relations was frowned upon all over the world. Contraception obviously changed that perception in the west particularly because now people actually think the purpose of sex is pleasure only. They even say terms as ‘sex is not consent to pregnancy’. It’s illogical thinking like today’s society does. I’ve met people btw that were atheist and yet come to these logical conclusions by themselves and live their lives pretty morally

That's an excellent point

Dear Spence, I see that you love the Church and that you do want what is best for her. And now, I hope that you are rethinking what you wrote here 10 days ago. Calumny is still a sin. It hurts the Church, but even worse, it hurts you. Your heart is greater than that. I am praying for you, my friend.

@@susand3668 How was any of what he stated calumny, you forked-tongue hypocrite? - "The prelates (including the pope) let him get away ... even promoting him" CHECK! Francis has publicly congratulated Martin for his ministry and has had multiple private audiences with him. Not to mention they are both Jesuits. - "Obvious heresies" CHECK! If you want to argue this, then you are being dishonest or not steadfast on your faith (as it is obvious for every firm Catholic that he's EVIL). - "accuse his critics of schism” CHECK! For Francis: Muslims venerate the same God as Christians, Jews are "our older brothers", atheists will go to heaven, Martin Luther was justified, Eastern Orthodox and their saints are just as Catholic (despite having multiple theological developments contrary to the very core of Catholic dogma), etc,... But he's waging a war against Traditional Catholics.

For the record, the only bishop in the world with that authority would be Pope Francis. Since Father James Martin is a Jesuit and that order has no bishop.

The society of Jesus is truly the society of Judas bergolio and martin its most unfaithful witness.

@@archimandritegregory7730 No

Because Most Holy Family Monastery is right. This is not the Catholic Church. It is counterfeit.

@@j.knight9335 No

It's not pleasant (obviously) or easy, in my experience. But then, we all have crosses to bear and it's best to live 'Thy will be done' and not 'my will be done'. Although easier said than done, sometimes.

@@frumaatholoid amen 🙏

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Learn English please.

This would fall under the sin of theft, if anything. Theft is the use or deprivation of property against the reasonable will of its owner. The interest of a video game publisher is satisfied when the end user of the game has purchased a copy that they produced. If the end user has such a copy of the game but chooses to play it via a ROM on an emulator, I don't see how it's reasonable for the owner to object. If copies are no longer available for sale, I could see a case going either way.

@UCobODVVvuZ7PCP6oBGLzxOA Of course he is. "manifest heretic" is just theory, unless he is openly thrown out, he works under the Churches' authority, constantly. Also, if you truly believe Popes are heretics for generations than you do not believe that Christ is protecting his Church from the Gates of Hell and you believe the Apostolic Succession is broken, so you're not Catholic either, because those things can't possibly happen. If there's an anti-pope, the issue has to be resolved within the succession of that same Pope. If Church is going astray as a whole, Christ abandoned it, and that can't happen according to Catholic doctrine either. You've successfully dogmatized yourself into a corner. You're view is not a solution. Vatican II is Holy Spirit led, it has validly been authorized by the Magisterium. The problem is that people like Fr Martin are not in line with it at all.

@@mitromney He does not profess the True Faith, so he is not a member of the body. This is Catholic teaching. Pope Pius XII, Encyclical Mystici Corporis (1943): _Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith_, and who have not been so unfortunate as to _separate themselves_ from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed …. As therefore in the true Christian community there is only one Body, one Spirit, one Lord, and one Baptism, so there can be only one faith. And therefore if a man refuse to hear the Church let him be considered - so the Lord commands - as a heathen and a publican. It follows that those divided in faith or government _cannot be living in the unity of such a Body_, nor can they be living the life of its one Divine Spirit…. For not every sin, however grave it may be, is such as of its own nature to sever a man from the Body of the Church, as does schism or heresy or apostasy.

@Manny Are you saying he has excommunicated himself?

@@EpoRose1 By his manifest heresy and public resistance to the doctrine taught by the Catholic Church, "fr" James Martin does not hold office or membership in the body of Christ (not that he ever has to begin with, but for the sake of argument, suppose he once did). Again, this is Catholic teaching. 1917 Pio-Benedictine Code of Canon Law: "Any office becomes vacant upon the fact and without any declaration by tacit resignation recognized by the law itself if a cleric: … 4. Publicly defects from the Catholic faith"

@@mkd1113 You must use the currently valid code of canon law, not the 1917 one.

Francis supports Martin.

Good reminder, thanks. Bergoglio is a forked-tongue lizard creature.

@@sliglusamelius8578 Yes, also known as a Modernist.

Pope Francis can’t change the Bible. Nobody can - but Jesus Himself in the second coming, because He’s the Almighty. When He comes again, many will scream “My Lord, my lord” and Jesus will disavow them. Woe unto them!

@@lorenzolozzigallo2589 Pope Francis came to the defense of pro-LGBT Jesuit Father James Martin on Saturday, praising him as a “man of values.”

That’s not how excommunication works…

@@chezjowy8596 it literally is. I don’t think you know how it works.

@@disguisedcentennial835 Lol you sectarian say the dumbest thing, the different is you are dozens of thousands of sects you don't have control over those sects the catholic church have control over the catholic church in any moment that they decide to excomunicate a prelate they can excommunicate them, to the contrary of you sectarians

@@YiriUbic3793 then do it. We’re waiting. 🥱

When Satan persuaded a hebephile, (possible pedophile) to coin the word homosexuality, and posit it as an identity for the first time in history and culture, just over a century ago, (so not a transgression, and historically a remedy for the powerful and jaded, or an artificial reaction to the temporary availability of women in institutions) it was just a tiny part of modernism, but it created a terrible identity based trap.A huge berrier to change. Therapy doesn't work when persona is confused with essence. We're all just just people, who can buy a lie anytime, especially in a time of anomie and alienation. Unless we thoroughly investigate the "sex negative," trauma and sexual disgust as part of the formation of self belief and actions, to counteract the so called "sex positive", (which dovetails so neatly with the commodification of sex and is not reality orientated) Then we can't help ourselves, all of us, without exception, it changed everything.

Comment of the century. Liberals are cheaters.

So most people.

@@pinguy2334 Most people aren't trustworthy yeah

lol lol lol. Plancks and motes.

@@jhoughjr1 You are not to be trusted.

Greetings Friends 👋🙏

No, judgement against others of which you know nothing is the sin here.

You'll have to elaborate, bungalow.

That is interesting, it is things like this that prevent me from even considering Catholicism. The Popes are just men, and often flawed.

Priests are the responsibility of their bishop, popes and archbishops are there mainly to police bishops and official documents.

The pope is in clear support of LGBT and atheism. Just look at all he's done in the past decade. The church is infiltrated by the government to push political agendas down the throats of faithful christians who are the only opposition to this new world order.

@@tafazzi-on-discord I don't think that addresses the issues I brought up.

@@tafazzi-on-discord pope Francis has personally promoted Fr. Martin in the last two years.

I am a Catholic but let’s face it! Francis has largely discredited the papacy since his function is to keep the Church unified under Christ and preach with clarity! The whole point of his infallibility is to clarify the scriptures and church doctrine! Has he done that?

We care about the orthodoxy of church teachings, simple as that not your idea of "conservative politics" repent. Yes we know this isnt official teaching but dont be stupid this guy isnt teaching the true teachings of Jesus Christ with all the lgbt stuff he is pushing.

Joe kept saying word salad, it only sounded good because he said a bunch of stuff, quantity over quality

I don’t think Matt struggled through it, but I do think he was trying to appeal to natural law since Joe Rogan is not religious and Biblical arguments wouldn’t be likely to convince him.

Nah. Their downfall affects everyone. If they fall down. Shine a spotlight on it. And let the world know why it happens

No, he should repent and remain in the Church.

Except that everyone has the responsibility to form their consciences. It can't be feelings based only, you have to genuinely seek out what God wants.

Nonsense. Aquinas would condemn homosexual acts.

We don’t have to agree to teaching from them that go against Church teaching. Martin is a wolf in sheep’s clothing nothing more.

@@brianfarley926 I can agree with you but that doesn’t help those bond by canon law to follow Father Martin. From what I understood, that, until he is excommunicated or his teaching is officially publicly declared heretical his flock his bound to follow their shepherd; then, if he is either publicly corrected by his direct superior officially or if he is publicly excommunicated by his superior or by the Pope, then he and all of his followers are exercised from the church. Each fallen away member could return to the body of the Church individually if they repent, confess and change their ways & public practices. (but again I don’t know that I am correct on my reading and understanding of the ecumenical councils hence I am asking Trent or his moderator, or any well versed viewer of this vid for an answer). I am not asking for a condemnation of Father Martin or his teachings, nor am I asking if what he is teaching is misguiding. Nor am I defending him nor his teachings. I am concerned for what happens to souls who are following him out of good faith and obedience.

As far as I know pay people are free to refer to any parish in their diocese. As a priest, he can't bind his congregation to anything but I would consider the lay people that decide to attend his parish and be shepherd by him neigh blameless.

@@alpha4IV - To begin with, Fr. Martin is a Jesuit and unlikely to even have a parish. Further, obedience in all cases ends at sin. A bishop must be honored if he unjustly orders a priest to stop presiding over public Mass. He can never order a priest to preach scandal. It is the same for lay people. There is often abused Scripture passage about "call no man Father". What it really means is that Fr. Martin cannot redefine sin. If you know it's wrong, you will not be able to bring to your judgement "Fr. Martin said..." Lastly, God handles the issue of souls, as He does in all cases. Only He can judge level of ignorance. People are far less ignorant than is politely assumed. If people want Fr. Martin's dubious "reassurances" then they probably already know.

Good question. Catholicism, fortunately, is a very comprehensive religion and has safeguards in place for these kinds of situations. If you were to have a priest or bishop like Father Martin (This probably won't be an issue with Father Martin himself since he is a Jesuit and has no church.) who openly taught something that went against Catholic Church teaching, such as supporting homosexual actions, then the church under him must side with the higher authority in that circumstance. The Church has publicly corrected pro-LGBTQ Catholic priests before (though I don't think Father Martin himself), like just awhile ago when Pope Francis released a document condemning the German Church's blessing of gay marriages as the Church cannot bless sin. While Pope Francis is no heretic on this issue, he also doesn't crack the whip nearly as hard as he ought to in getting these people in line and hasn't really taken any disciplinary action other than releasing a document that basically amounted to waving a finger and saying "no, no, don't do that." This is where we should pray to God for Pope Francis to take more proactive corrective measures. But long story short yeah, official Church teaching comes before your local bishop or priest. It's one of the things that separates us from Orthodox, who generally do whatever their bishops say, and that is why you have like 5000 Orthodox churches that get broken up whenever there's a war between the nations of two dioceses.

Not offended but confused. It is a bit of a paradox because Catholicism is a belief system that is a call to action, unlike Judaism which is a race, or Brahmin as a caste.

@@rudymatheson1415 well I guess it depends on what you mean by catholic. If you were christened in the Catholic Church the clergy still consider you part of the Church even if you don’t attend mass.

There are a few that are good to look at. If you like more antiquated or flowery language, the Douay-Rheims is a great choice. For formal language that's easier to read, the Knox version is pretty good. As for modern translations, I can't give you really a solid answer as i dont use them, but I would just go with one that marks itself as a Catholic bible

Douay-Rheims remains the best in many ways, although there are still some small things that translators like to quibble about with this older translation, particularly where it takes after the Latin Vulgate and not the older Greek sources. Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition is not terrible, but was done in collaboration with Protestant and Orthodox scholars, and it doesn't take the most literal line of translation, favoring more natural sounding English. New American Bible is used for Mass readings often, so it can't be terrible. I haven't read this one myself. There is also the NABRE, the revised edition, which is apparently more correct concerning the Old Testament. Catholic Study Bible, New American, Third Edition has been recommended to me in the past. I would personally recommend the RSVCE for casual reading. For deeper study of a passage, always compare multiple translations to each other.

@@Nate77HK avoid the NABRE like the plague. And if you do get it, never, ever read the footnotes. They were written by the faithless

@@EPH-re2xj not a catholic bible.

@@EPH-re2xj somewhat, with some inaccurate translations, and minus a few books, and not approved for use for that reason.

Keep your mind OPEN. Not all protestants accept homosexuality. Infact America and Europe is where it's accepted.

Jesuits, man... They don't have a Bishop to answer to. The Church needs a better method for keeping priests who belong to religious orders in check. Most of them don't need it because most are remarkably hardcore Catholic men, but Father Martin is an exception.

@@gunsgalore7571 We have bishops, like everyone else. I can only assume his bishop is on board with it, or at least not very bothered by it.

@@FrJohnBrownSJ I thought as much Fr. Thank you for the clarification.😊