Responding to Fr. James Martin on Homosexuality w/ Fr. Mike Schmitz

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Pints With Aquinas

4 жыл бұрын

Fr. Mike offers a thorough and nuanced criticism of Fr. James Martin's position on homosexuality in the church, by responding to and refuting his statement one line at a time.
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@lohanthony
@lohanthony 3 жыл бұрын
"Jesus never spoke about His views on what true marriage looks like" Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1144">19:4</a>-6 NKJV: And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” the context is divorce, but the truth is still the same. Jesus takes God's side fully!
@Lit123ful
@Lit123ful 3 жыл бұрын
He instituted marriage at the wedding of Cana, didn’t he?
@2Uahoj
@2Uahoj 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I was thinking the same thing.
@janetshira6522
@janetshira6522 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Operaandchant90
@Operaandchant90 3 жыл бұрын
The question is not whether Jesus took God's side, because that's obviously true. The question is, will you follow the lamb.
@realmetis8002
@realmetis8002 3 жыл бұрын
he dident have too it was clear
@paulabeltran6166
@paulabeltran6166 4 жыл бұрын
im so sorry BUT JESUS AND HIS DOCTRINES ARE THE SAME AS YESTERDAY TODAY AND ALWAYS!!!!!!
@Chris-hw6hy
@Chris-hw6hy 4 жыл бұрын
Everlasting!
@RL-ck8zk
@RL-ck8zk 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly and the Church has consistently gotten it wrong!
@MrJ567
@MrJ567 3 жыл бұрын
@@RL-ck8zk Why, because it makes you feel uncomfortable?
@CharlottePrattWilson
@CharlottePrattWilson 3 жыл бұрын
paula beltran Exactly? Why does someone always have to change or question that?
@wallrusmoose2111
@wallrusmoose2111 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Here is a group I have followed who are not afraid to speak the truth, Tradition Family and Property video from their student out reach program. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5pgnMxjzLGceZs.html
@NicoSantanaMusic
@NicoSantanaMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Father Mike has a gift for addressing controversial topics with charity and clear intellectual arguments, without actually tearing the person who may be in error down. We need more of this in our community. Great interview Matt
@MarcillaSmith
@MarcillaSmith 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and in this case, he is the one in error
@kevinzrenda8753
@kevinzrenda8753 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcillaSmith eh? What error? Great citations and historical context (without making it ‘personal’), ie the OT community standards vs universal claims on sin
@LandYall
@LandYall Жыл бұрын
@@MarcillaSmith God will sort it out
@dan69052
@dan69052 Жыл бұрын
Could knowledge also help ?If you are gay or transgender or know someone who is, this is important information! It has been determined that sexual orientation is determined in the womb during fetal development. Various hormones such as testosterone are introduced at specific times & amounts which determine physical, biological & psychologic features of the fetus It is, therefore, not a choice by the fetus or mother & consequently not a sin & not immoral. It is a natural path of life’s evolution & found commonplace in nature. Extensive medical research clearly explains this process. Those who believe it is an abomination do so based not on facts but on religious authority. I totally accept that this is their right to believe this and I understand. It must be made clear however, it is based on religion not science. If you are truly interested in the truth based on knowledge, facts & research, the book Gay, Straight & the Reason Why by Dr. Simon Levay explains this with numerous research articles. If you want to understand the truth & have respect for others & yourself, this book will help. It also has, unlike the bible written over 2000 years ago by men that had, unfortunately, no understanding of science, an extensive bibliography. I strongly recommend the book if you want solid factual understanding. If you chose to respond to me, please read this book &/or the numerous articles referred to in the reference section beforehand. I do not want to waste your or my time if your claim to understanding is based on religion. The public must be exposed to facts & knowledge. It is an obligation for those who know the truth & defend it. Don’t let the religious pull you down to their level of ignorance. Peace
@charlesramirez587
@charlesramirez587 11 ай бұрын
​@@dan69052my contention is that this isn't foundational scientific consensus, fact, or really able to be tested. The premise that hormonal effects in different stages of development having effects on transgenderism has no basis in reality only with correlation that is inconsistent. While homosexuality is also inconsistent due to large sections outside the common hormonal traits suggested as the main culprits. This is to say culturally influenced personality and biological influences have not been definitive in estimating same sex attraction or identity in a controlled way. We do not know, a common trait for transgenderism now is young women with no history of disphoria and overall deep in the autistic spectrum. As for gays or bisexuals and lesbians, revealed behavior shows gays are not consistent on why they are gay. Bisexuals seem to have like feminine gays only have attention span problems as the common pattern. And Lesbianism has almost never been a strict sexual attraction while they en mass recreationally have sex with men anyway. The narrative of no choice and just fluidity are contrary but also no basis for either besides behavioral patterns.
@m_nation403
@m_nation403 4 жыл бұрын
Please just speak the truth, it felt to me like you were hesitant to do so, Mother Angelica once said I don’t care if you like me I care about your soul.
@colleenposadas8415
@colleenposadas8415 4 жыл бұрын
A woman who didn't resort to " nuance" to call sinfullness and lies what they are. Have no idea how I ended up here. I would rather listen to lay Catholics like Dr. Taylor Marshal or Michael Voris who speak bold truth. Or the Johnson woman who told that disgusting lying Martin why he was pretending to be Catholic.
@colleenposadas8415
@colleenposadas8415 4 жыл бұрын
They are the Bishop Sheens of our day while the present day Bishops cozy up to politicians and hide sexual perversions. My God, wake up people.
@soarhighseebeyond8387
@soarhighseebeyond8387 3 жыл бұрын
@@colleenposadas8415 you're right! seems these converts have more courage to defend the faith than priests. of course except Fr. Mark Goring
@wallrusmoose2111
@wallrusmoose2111 3 жыл бұрын
Tradition Family and Property is another good Catholic group I have followed for few yrs not afraid to speak the truth. Their articles are very helpful in guiding me over the yrs. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5pgnMxjzLGceZs.html
@TheSaraManal
@TheSaraManal 3 жыл бұрын
Who said mother Angelica was the wisest person that our culture needs now ? If you think so .. good for you .. most of us don’t What you think is hesitation is the way every wise person should speak in my opinion: slow & think & be careful about every word you say & how you saying .. so you don’t destroy with a word what you build for a long time ( St Therese)
@luisballesteros2700
@luisballesteros2700 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus said: “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.” Matthew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="317">5:17</a> Fulfill all that God has done and ordered.
@michielvanasten3021
@michielvanasten3021 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the ever being God. So He is the author of the Old Testament scriptures!
@frjohn413
@frjohn413 3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 3 жыл бұрын
Including beating your slaves
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Well that reading is a bit literal for my taste and dooms us all because I'm certainly not follow Levitical Law and neither are you. Scripture makes no distinction between moral and ritual law as is often claimed. Moreover scripture repeatedly comments on the Law and states that is is no longer in effect Hebrews 8 being among the most explicit. "By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."
@southernlady1109
@southernlady1109 Жыл бұрын
@@GrokfordJesus said He did not come to destroy the prophets or the law, but to fulfill them.
@seikopatton4782
@seikopatton4782 4 жыл бұрын
"You don't have to be a bloody theologian.." XD Love it.
@patriciaperry7606
@patriciaperry7606 3 жыл бұрын
Maximilian James, Thank you 🙏
@yury2749
@yury2749 Жыл бұрын
"I don't know. I'm not a Biologist." 😄😄😄
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
It's funny because he says that right after citing a nonexistent moral/ritual distinction. Scripture doesn't make that distinction.
@AlexE5250
@AlexE5250 Жыл бұрын
I wish I was Australian or British so that I could use “bloody” as a filler for curse words. It’s a bloody brilliant replacement for anywhere a sailor would use “F***ing” with the added benefit that it’s not really an offensive word. Unfortunately as an American it would be out of place.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@AlexE5250 Do you think that the first person who said "bloody" sounded normal? Language changes in response to usage, change the way you speak, change the language. Live your dreams.
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 4 жыл бұрын
Matt said it at the beginning: Fr. Mike fearlessly preaches Catholic truth, but he clearly does not feel he was called to do battle with individual people who distort the Faith. Some may feel he takes charity too far, but that's his spiritual persona.
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 3 жыл бұрын
Find out what science says about homosexuality before using your faith to denounce it
@Krafanio
@Krafanio 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerzybala8339 Science does not refute faith. Neither faith needs Science "permission" for basically anything.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 жыл бұрын
Being too charitable is not a bad thing!
@ransomcoates546
@ransomcoates546 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntmn8444 Depends in what sense you mean ‘charity’. Admonishing sinners is very charitable.
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 2 жыл бұрын
Science has refuted faith. Evolution is a fact and the creation stories are myths. Archaeology has refuted the Exodus and the historicity of much of the bible. You can have your faith but not your own facts.
@caseymckee6856
@caseymckee6856 3 жыл бұрын
Please pray for me brothers and sisters!
@tomsaltsman
@tomsaltsman 4 жыл бұрын
"Lead us not into temptation." Homosexual men can easily be saved from overwhelming temptations. I know I was. The problem is that, nowadays, we just stand back and let Big Mama Babylon tell us what to think, say and do. Tune her voice out of your head. Change the channel to Jesus Christ and Him alone. He has the answer. What is it? Read the first canon of the Council of Nicaea of 325 AD. "He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax 4 жыл бұрын
No such thing as GOD.
@kathleen0933
@kathleen0933 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless you for courage Tom!
@mariadeven4112
@mariadeven4112 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you.
@fairybits
@fairybits 3 жыл бұрын
They do not need saving. They need and want to be accepted. It is how they were born.It is not a sin.
@joaneberhart5519
@joaneberhart5519 3 жыл бұрын
God bless!
@toompyfloyd4074
@toompyfloyd4074 4 жыл бұрын
brother fradd, never pass up telling someone the truth if it costs you they're "friendship''. think of our Lord.
@tryforthesky2224
@tryforthesky2224 4 жыл бұрын
At the same time, pray, pray, pray, and let Jesus lead you into _how_ to tell that truth: in love. Fr. Mike does this so well, and in your own case you never know what unique way God will give you to show love to the person you're speaking to. But definitely, never drop either truth -- or love. They're a package deal.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
What good are you doing by sacrificing a friendship on the pyre of your own self-righteousness? Is it the Lord or your own thoughts and feelings that are risk?
@h.w.4482
@h.w.4482 12 күн бұрын
if you tell them the truth they don't want to hear, no matter how factual and faithful to the words of the Bible, they could always just stop talking to you. for whatever reason, really; there's nothing you can do to make someone your friend again or keep them as one if they decided they don't want to be
@mrssmith1691
@mrssmith1691 4 жыл бұрын
Fr Mike is the best. Always kind and always intelligent and clear.
@equine2020
@equine2020 6 ай бұрын
And a falsh catholic. Ignores doctrine.
@acutebutcute
@acutebutcute 4 күн бұрын
​@@equine2020what do you mean?
@equine2020
@equine2020 4 күн бұрын
@@acutebutcute Believe it's self explanatory. Are you familiar with Catholic doctrine? James Martin is not a true Catholic. I won't call him Fr.
@acutebutcute
@acutebutcute 4 күн бұрын
@@equine2020 no the commenter said Father Mike, not James Martin.
@equine2020
@equine2020 4 күн бұрын
@@acutebutcute I was referring to Martin.
@bretbellamy4375
@bretbellamy4375 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Fradd and Fr. Mike Schmitz - thank you both!
@DanyTV79
@DanyTV79 4 жыл бұрын
James Martin is teaching things against Church teachings. One thing is to "build bridges", a different thing is to "build bridges" at any cost. His point of view about the Bible is biblical materialism.
@josephososkie3029
@josephososkie3029 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me nowadays that a “ come, let us reason together”/ building bridges attitude is necessarily rare. It’s like here, compromise on your principle and in exchange I will make you feel better. It’s a relativism trap. is peripheral and rare.
@necelticsox
@necelticsox 4 жыл бұрын
Pope Francis clearly doesn't agree with you, otherwise, he wouldn't have talked to Fr. Martin or appoint someone who responded positively to him as a cardinal.
@j.r.r5863
@j.r.r5863 4 жыл бұрын
necelticsox And yet, the Pope doesn’t have the power to change dogma
@anng.4542
@anng.4542 4 жыл бұрын
@DanyTV "Father" James Martin, building "bridges to nowhere".
@j.r.r5863
@j.r.r5863 4 жыл бұрын
Ann G. I mean, to hell. He’s building a nice wide bridge to hell.
@Eliezer737
@Eliezer737 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Fr. Mike, be courageous, we have your back!
@ringo11994
@ringo11994 2 жыл бұрын
It says in the Catechism 2358 that this issue should be handled with sensitivity and compassion.
@sneed3529
@sneed3529 Жыл бұрын
@@ringo11994 That doesn’t mean you soften the message itself.
@adlibrium
@adlibrium 4 ай бұрын
@@sneed3529 I'm pretty sure Fr. Mike is on record as stating that he (and the catholic church) considers same sex attraction to not be sinful, but the act of same sex intercourse to be sinful, so it's fine to be attracted but those who are are called to not act on it.
@sanderb1769
@sanderb1769 3 жыл бұрын
Fr. Mike understands motivational speaking. Yelling at a smoker "you'll get cancer!!" will not help them quit. Doctors and psychiatrists know this, but people like Michael Voris, Matt Frad and many priest do not get this. Yelling what is sin at sinners will not help, we need nuance and kindness like Fr. Mike uses.
@ipso-kk3ft
@ipso-kk3ft 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Strive1974
@Strive1974 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. But you also need to want to change. Change comes through repentance which Fr. Martin never mentions.
@sanderb1769
@sanderb1769 2 жыл бұрын
@@Strive1974 I only mentioned fr. Mike ;)
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Nice and kind are not the same thing, but otherwise I agree.
@Jesusgirl00
@Jesusgirl00 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy listening to Fr. Mike. He is very likeable and pleasant to listen and learn from
@equine2020
@equine2020 6 ай бұрын
You're learning the wrong version of Catholicism He's a minon of Satan.
@SalveRegina8
@SalveRegina8 6 ай бұрын
in 0.75x speed 😅
@roberthartmann768
@roberthartmann768 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how the two epistles that deal with homosexuality in the New Testament are Romans and 1 Corinthians - both Greco-Roman places. Also - “He answered, “Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1144">19:4</a>-6‬ (NRSV-CI) I think this indirectly explains issues of transgenderism and homosexual marriage, because Jesus describes what marriage is.
@jameshammond3853
@jameshammond3853 3 жыл бұрын
Voilá
@anthonyburke3000
@anthonyburke3000 3 жыл бұрын
The Word Incarnate did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it!
@antonius3745
@antonius3745 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because it is not about orientation but about the pagan way to deal and use sexuality.
@Hiwatt100W1
@Hiwatt100W1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent insight. The Church has always had to fight rationalists and rationalism and the trend to revise solid Church teaching based on Scripture and Holy Tradition to accommodate changing society. But Church teaching is immutable. If we surrender our teaching, we surrender our Faith it will eventually all erode and there will be nothing left- which is exactly what Satan wants.
@comicnerd420
@comicnerd420 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't answer anything about trans rights or even gay marriage. Marriage isn't a christian invention nor was marriage given by god because marriage wasn't invented by christian but has been around all across the world in different cultures older than christianity like sumerian or mesmopotamia.
@alannacarlson6715
@alannacarlson6715 3 жыл бұрын
People claiming "Jesus never said anything about ____" must have skipped over John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1285">21:25</a> when they were supposedly reading the Bible.
@samflens6131
@samflens6131 2 жыл бұрын
"Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." Are you seriously arguing that Jesus said something because we can't prove that he didn't? That's called appeal to ignorance, and it's a logical fallacy.
@alannacarlson6715
@alannacarlson6715 2 жыл бұрын
@@samflens6131 couldn't you say that the first claim, that Jesus never said anything about something, is an appeal to ignorance? Like, "we don't know what Jesus thought about this since He didn't say anything, so that makes it ok." Definitely seems like fallacy to me. Jesus is the Word. The Bible is the Word of God. And the Bible has *plenty* to say about the subject. Thank you for your response, it helps me think about proper discussion!
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23 I struggle to find exception to this.
@timrichardson4018
@timrichardson4018 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I think Peter Hitchens put it best when asked about homosexual relationships. After expressing that he generally refuses to engage in arguments about it because it's simply a trap, he said. "The Christian view of sexuality is very simple. The only appropriate place for it is between a married, heterosexual couple, and all else is wrong." He went on to say that the "all else" is an enormous umbrella consisting of all sorts of sexual arrangements and expressions, of which homosexuality is but a very small item. It's used as a means to bait Christians into looking like bigots when bigotry has nothing to do with it. It is simply that God has said it is good in this context alone and we are obligated to that. Aside: I think it's worth pointing out that it is natural for heterosexual men to want to pursue sex with as many women as possible. There is a better natural argument for that than homosexuality. The best strategy for a man to achieve his biological imperative to get his genes into the next generation is to have sex with as many women as possible. But this is no where near morally acceptable to Christianity or anyone in society who values commitment. We are called by God to discipline our urges and bring them in line with his will. It is extraordinarily difficult. Those struggling should not be shunned. The political and historical reaction against homosexuals has alienated them especially in the church. And bridges need to be built. But the teaching of scripture on the point is clear. We cannot condone acts scripture clearly forbids in order to build those bridges.
@mariadeven4112
@mariadeven4112 3 жыл бұрын
Great comments!
@natanaellizama6559
@natanaellizama6559 3 жыл бұрын
Why did God give man a particular nature and then call it evil? Wasn't God himself who gave Man that nature, and as you're pointing out, it has a a purpose. Does God give man his nature just to tempt people?
@josephjacob3274
@josephjacob3274 3 жыл бұрын
@@natanaellizama6559 God has given us free will, one of his greatest gifts. He tests us as he has tested many others. Some grow spiritually, some grow to understand themselves better. Fate is decided by him. We can live in peace as what he would prefer his children to want, or be in anarchy and do wrong, this insulting him.
@natanaellizama6559
@natanaellizama6559 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephjacob3274 If he tests us without our will, then how do we have free will? If Fate is decided by him, how do we have free will? If he wants us to live in peace, why present two conflicting natures? Remember, I'm not talking about sin brought on by us, but inherent to our own biological nature. Is this conflict purposeful in order to tempt and test us? I do believe that sin is an insult to God, but because God is the ground of Being, not merely another member of the set of Being, like Zeus could be. Thus, sinning, is both and at the same time an act against God and an act against the self, as it's an act against Being. However, I see no inherent reason why, say, having a loving and sexual relationship with someone before marriage or even without marriage, is an act against Being, quite the contrary.
@josephjacob3274
@josephjacob3274 3 жыл бұрын
@@natanaellizama6559 we can't explain all things in the world or things that have happened. Hard to comprehend to think what God is thinking. People make mistakes, people make good decisions, and this comes from a family that reflects the image of God and the teachings of Jesus and the church. You go to school and you are said to obey what teachers say. Yet, students can be mischievous and cause trouble, breaking school rules. School allows free will, but also has rules that must be followed. Bullying occurs in school, but they get punished eventually. God allows free will, sends us commandments to follow. The church through out the years have also redefined them as well. Society is built on laws and is not telling people to do this and that, that is a choice by the person. Same for a Christian who follows Christ and his Catholic church. Some things in the world are not entirely explained, people going through hard times or good times, it is something we look towards to God and his son to free us of sin and walk a better path.
@MrJking1962
@MrJking1962 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the Saints were not liked. Nice is not a virtue. Ask Michael Voris.
@jm08050
@jm08050 4 жыл бұрын
Being "nice" is a vice.
@Cos263
@Cos263 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, based on the hatred being spewed in the comments, Father James Martin is on the way to sainthood.
@tboyred8756
@tboyred8756 4 жыл бұрын
Although, kindness is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. This is not to be confused with niceness. Kindness speaks truth in love, while niceness speaks fallacy in fear.
@briandelaney9710
@briandelaney9710 4 жыл бұрын
Voris is a nut
@josephbell3397
@josephbell3397 3 жыл бұрын
Nice is not a virtue but charity is.
@shen6250
@shen6250 4 жыл бұрын
Curious to hear opinions on the Amazon synod
@cookingfun6245
@cookingfun6245 2 жыл бұрын
Love father Mike. Thank you for your ministry. If there is ambiguity in the church I tell myself what does Father Mike say about it. He teaches what is true. God bless
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
I can't say I agree.
@collins5038
@collins5038 Жыл бұрын
No disrespect, but what does the Bible say is important.
@veradayy8799
@veradayy8799 4 жыл бұрын
A brilliant response father. I thought you handled that exceptionally well and stay true to the teaching of the church. God bless you and your ministry and that you always speak the truth
@sahn105
@sahn105 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he did. He is a master of eloquent ambiguity
@vanessairaheta9727
@vanessairaheta9727 3 жыл бұрын
I thought so too :)
@SirBlackReeds
@SirBlackReeds 3 ай бұрын
So, why doesn't Matt Fradd just invite Father Jim Martin onto his show? Why not do the honorable thing and have the man defend his positions instead of giggling, gossiping, and smugly chuckling behind his back? Also, Father Martin is an American Catholic and American Catholics have become nigh indistinguishable from their Protestant counterparts, culturally Calvinist. Moreover, Father Martin sees that the Roman Catholic Church doesn't have the best track record when it comes to saving the souls of sodomites. Question his approach all you want, but he recognizes that there's a problem that needs to be fixed. You can hardly blame him for volunteering.
@pattimagee
@pattimagee 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue, Jesus did say "something" about Slavery & Capital Punishment - 'treat your neighbor as yourself'
@Ryan15beast
@Ryan15beast 8 ай бұрын
The priest that walked by the beaten man in the parable wasn’t a neighbor.
@Embien
@Embien Жыл бұрын
Well done Fr Mike 👍. It's always good to consider a quotation inside the whole piece in which it was written i.e in context. That way the person quoted is treated with a degree of fairness. I was taught: always return to the source.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23 I struggle to find exception to this.
@bethluther3950
@bethluther3950 11 ай бұрын
This showed up on my KZfaq today. Love the succinct way Fr Mike puts it. Easy for me to remember when things come up in conversation!!!!
@equine2020
@equine2020 6 ай бұрын
He's a falsh clergy. He's not a true Catholic. He deviates from doctrine. Needs expelling.
@tonyalanof2191
@tonyalanof2191 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you!
@squirrelknight4878
@squirrelknight4878 4 жыл бұрын
First time hearing from Fr. Mike, so you could imagine how crazy this sounded if listening to this way early in the morning and misinterpret this as Fr. Mike speaking in defense of Fr. James... Woah.
@patriciaperry7606
@patriciaperry7606 3 жыл бұрын
Uhh huh, lol 😂 I Fr. Schmitz needs to upgrade his ‘naïveté’. So sorry, if I sound insulting, It’s important to be upfront, firm, and strong in your apostolic effectiveness. Let’s grow in God’s Truth, God’s Love, God’s Peace, and God’s Joy! ‘Thou art a Priest forever, in the Line of Melchizedek.’ IT’S SO BEAUTIFUL! love it! Forever and ever, Amen ✝️ Thanks and God Bless 🙏💒❤️
@barbarasmith5974
@barbarasmith5974 3 жыл бұрын
Gods word is Eternal.
@carlosgranadillo3195
@carlosgranadillo3195 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to start by saying I respect father mike and I love watching his videos every week. I think his understanding of this topic is not the truth tho. I honestly do not understand why biblical quotes about marriage seem to be interpreted to ban homosexuality. I don’t understand why quotes about conception are interpreted to ban homosexuality. Why are quotes about fornication interpreted to ban homosexuality. Homosexual love is not a sin. No real love can be a sin because love is god and god is love. No expression of god can be wrong. This faulty interpretation of scripture goes against the revealed will of god in the Bible as well as against what Jesus has revealed to his homosexual followers through their experiences. Why do you say “god is not in homosexual love” or “gay people who practice sex do not know Jesus” where you there when they met HIM? Open your hears, your eye and turn my friends so you may be healed.
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank your Carlos, such messages are very necessary.
@JP2GiannaT
@JP2GiannaT 3 жыл бұрын
All have sinned. Of course people in homosexual relationships have met Christ-- same as any other sinner. Meeting Christ and perceiving him is not in at all contingent on our holiness, it's contingent on us being open to seeing him. That really isn't an argument for the validity of that lifestyle in and of itself-- just for the mercy and love of our God, who wants to be in relationship with us. Homosexuality in Church teaching...there's a lot of theology that Fr. Mike doesn't get into here, some that addresses what you've commented. I'm guessing this might be a personal issue for you, and I don't want to put you on the spot in a public comment section. I really, really, REALLY recomend looking into St. John Paul II's Theology of the Body for more about the relationship between God's love and human sexuality. Christopher West has written a book called "Theology of the Body for Beginners" that does a good job digesting some of JP2's very dense, academic writing style into something more approachable.
@mad_marc2757
@mad_marc2757 4 жыл бұрын
So glad Matt Fradd released separately this clip from the interview. Loved how they talked about this basic truth with charity.
@kylelloyd9468
@kylelloyd9468 4 жыл бұрын
mj_malave27 - yeah, I appreciate it as well.
@necelticsox
@necelticsox 4 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, Fr. Martin is not saying that gay sex is fine, and he clearly states that the Catechism says it's wrong. The Church has a huge language problem with gays right now. There is no input whatsoever from people who aren't heterosexual.
@kylelloyd9468
@kylelloyd9468 4 жыл бұрын
necelticsox: I agree, I think a big hurdlers with the language being used. To many people read “intrinsically disordered“ as meaning “very very very bad” as apposed to can fill all the aspects of ideal sexual relations; in that they close the sexual act to the gift of life and do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity.
@necelticsox
@necelticsox 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylelloyd9468 Nobody apart from theologians really understands what it means. Eve Tushnet gave a much better criticism of the term here: www.patheos.com/blogs/evetushnet/2010/06/719.html
@richardbonnette490
@richardbonnette490 3 жыл бұрын
@@necelticsox I am sure some people understand what it means even though they are not theologians. And if you don't, then it is not a bad thing to re-read Church doctrine to understand the original meaning and comprehension of the terms.
@erix4erix
@erix4erix 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever met or heard or seen someone (on the web) who had a conversion thru Fr Martin’s efforts and grew in their faith and chose to live a life of abstinence and chastity?
@Poeina
@Poeina 4 жыл бұрын
erix4erix no but listening to Fr Mike helped me in my conversion and to chose to become chaste
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax 4 жыл бұрын
@@Poeina How unfortunate for you
@Poeina
@Poeina 4 жыл бұрын
Name And Address Supplied yeah it’s rough but Jesus is the revolution and I want to be a part of it.
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax hey, choosing celibacy for God is an extremely difficult thing to do. God will reward dedication and perseverance in the faith even if it is at all misguided (think fasting). Its not your place to ridicule them for such a decision
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
@@Poeina i wish you success in your endeavors and urge you to dig closer to God in this time. God bless.
@jcb3393
@jcb3393 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fr. Mike for providing something Fr. James does not: clarity. Thank you Fr. Mike for dispelling something Fr. James promotes: ambiguity.
@necelticsox
@necelticsox 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you have to be ambiguous when you approach extremely sensitive topics like this.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23 I struggle to find exception to this let alone ambiguity.
@antoinettedavid2826
@antoinettedavid2826 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Fr Mike. God bless ❤️
@gabbystreet103
@gabbystreet103 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@zdenkogolubic8578
@zdenkogolubic8578 4 жыл бұрын
Love you father Mike. You're real beautiful soul and son of our Lady Mary and pride of our catholic Church. It is clear that Holy Spirit is with you. May God bless and protect you ✝️🙌❤️😇😊
@carloseduardograterolrosal72
@carloseduardograterolrosal72 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should also bring to your show people that disagree with ypur point of view in this topic in particular. So you can undertsand more the other part. Maybe bring Fr. James Martin
@AG-kr1my
@AG-kr1my 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being men that are brave enough to speak truth with love and compassion ❤
@andrewkohler3707
@andrewkohler3707 2 жыл бұрын
Compassion for whom?
@duckwithoneleg00
@duckwithoneleg00 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow I manage to do both. Fail to speak the truth and be SUPER loved, and then buck up and say it and be hated. Yay, me. 😂💀
@yvobalcer
@yvobalcer 4 жыл бұрын
Mathew <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="317">5:17</a> Jesus said I did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Jesus was referring to the Mosaic Law which had prohibitions against sodomy among others.
@samuelblessum5759
@samuelblessum5759 4 жыл бұрын
In acts chapter 15, the church discusses what stays and what goes from mosaic law. In verse 20, unlawful marriage is included in what is still prohibited.
@Operaandchant90
@Operaandchant90 4 жыл бұрын
The law of the priests set out in Leviticus 18 has nothing to do with homosexuality. It refers to temple prostitution- a highly specific and bizarre practice by which the priests in the temples to baal would pay money to the 'temple prostitutes' (who were chained to the statues btw) and have sex with them (most likely rape them). These passages are prohibitions of this practice, not actual homosexuality, because these people's sexuality was not relevant to this practice. It was not even a prohibition of the act of sex between 2 men, because this practice is separate to sex in 'normal life'. A form of 'Temple prostitution' has actually been practiced in some Judeo-Christian cults in the US. For example, it is well known that David Koresh had sex with his cult members, and also demnded money from.his followers (seperate requirements). (Be aware that I am consciously using the word 'prostitution' instead of sex work. These people did not always consent to being chained to a statue and having sex. And even if they were, this practice is not like modern sex work because it was a religious transaction).
@brazilianman92
@brazilianman92 4 жыл бұрын
@@Operaandchant90 Romans says otherwise.
@lcringo3498
@lcringo3498 4 жыл бұрын
@@Operaandchant90 Other than claiming that this supposed "temple prostitution " actually took place among these various cultures, what proof that these activities took place can you offer? Historical? Archeological? Written records ? I await your reply...🤨🤨🤨
@zazzleman
@zazzleman 4 жыл бұрын
news flash. Sodomy is not homosexuality. News flash news flash.
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 жыл бұрын
To the people commenting here that Fr. Mike didn’t do enough to rebuke Fr. Martin, remember that the devil is the spirit of confusion and DIVISION.
@chrisoneal2718
@chrisoneal2718 11 ай бұрын
When priests like Father Martin say controversial statements like this, why doesn’t anyone do anything about it?
@holyvacant1427
@holyvacant1427 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me issue with Robert Barron is ? I’ve been using his rosary guide to help with my meditations but it I have seen a lot of pushback against him online and I’m curious as to why. I’m in RCIA and am a new convert and would just like to gain some perspective
@joepugh678
@joepugh678 3 ай бұрын
Sorry that no one responded to you. I know that some people think he is too liberal. I don't.
@smscoal8579
@smscoal8579 4 жыл бұрын
Fr. Mike is so interesting. Thanks so much I would like to see the whole interview.
@dianemarie8873
@dianemarie8873 4 жыл бұрын
Whole interview.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r66Ho8ufrZmdYKs.html
@kyleenzler94
@kyleenzler94 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. I was a little disappointed with Father's "Criticism". It wasn't much of one. Let us forget about what is "historical" and talk more about What Is. If something is true at any point in time, then it shall continue to be so, regardless of social norms, till the end of time. God is Truth, and God is Eternal, so therefore, Truth is Eternal. With that Enthymeme, we can apply that to the old Testament, especially in regards to men exchanging unnatural relations with men: if What God commanded of His people, regarding those relations, held back then, then it holds now, because of what was just established (Truth and God). That is, the most basic answer anyone can give, using Aristotle's Enthymemes (Found in his Rhetoric).
@rickedwards7276
@rickedwards7276 4 жыл бұрын
Kyle Enzler hmmm. So if slavery was good back then, it is still good. If wearing clothes of mixed fabrics was bad it is still bad. If killing a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night was good it still is and so on…
@richardbonnette490
@richardbonnette490 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickedwards7276 IF, brother, IF.
@rickedwards7276
@rickedwards7276 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Bonnette exactly. And if there was an almighty creator back then there should also be one now…
@Cristinact
@Cristinact 3 жыл бұрын
Yes... he can be a very charming priest with lots of cool advice coming out of his broad smile. But here, with a thornier issue, he just beat about the bush... Not good, fr. Mike, not good. We need you be "Altmantised".
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Yes, slavery was always wrong, the fact that abolition was a new idea at the time does nothing to discount its truthfulness.
@user-ms1pg2ok4i
@user-ms1pg2ok4i 3 ай бұрын
Reverend James Martin is one of the Only nice priests out there. He gets it. He gets life. Ive met him. He is a wonderful human being! Why hed ever be a Catholic priest is beyond me.
@mijuajua4820
@mijuajua4820 3 ай бұрын
Here is my truth I accept all people I am not in any way fit to judge, nor would I want to. I am so glad I am not a priest or any other position like that that I would have to and this is a difficult subject because I understand that churches do not want to ostracize the gay community, so they want to make them feel welcomed. It’s such a tough thing peace and love to everyone.❤
@geneparadiso6258
@geneparadiso6258 3 жыл бұрын
I just love Catholic priests taking a strong stand against sin.
@bullirish
@bullirish 2 жыл бұрын
Where in this video did they do that?
@egb6322
@egb6322 2 жыл бұрын
Simple!
@bk29929
@bk29929 9 ай бұрын
I’m curious about Fr Schmitz’s description of the ‘laws for all people’ in Leviticus. In the same paragraph in chapter 18 that regards homosexuality as an abomination, it is also said: “You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness while she is in her menstrual uncleanness.” Would it then follow follow that, if this specific portion of scripture is a declaration of Natural Law as opposed to Mosaic Law, it is still immoral to unclothe one’s wife during menstruation? This is not taught by the church. Considering this, it seems to support a ‘cherry-picking’ argument.
@robertnicol1137
@robertnicol1137 3 жыл бұрын
I have often thought about how homosexuals would have lived in the past. Many kept their secret and tried to live lives as ordinarily as possible. In many ways, this must have been difficult for them. But in the past, unlike the message forwarded by popular culture today, it was more widely understood that sexual relations were for the purpose of procreation and families headed by a married man and woman (and perhaps some extended family) were the proper families in which to raise the next generations. I would guess that many homosexuals, if not most, had the desire to raise families too. They would have had to resist the temptation to engage in sexual relations outside the bonds of holy matrimony perhaps not unlike the temptations to which heterosexuals may be exposed. Marriage is for this purpose and should be reserved for the joining of a man and a woman and the family they intend to raise.
@bbgamegodpnw
@bbgamegodpnw Жыл бұрын
I've always thought and view homosexuality as just a sin. No different then sex with a condom, masturbation.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
You have some serious assumptions about the nature of sex and family and some very simplified historical reasons too. Children have never exclusively come from nuclear families and even the nuclear family is an artificial construct. Sex is not just for reproduction and if a community is healthy not having children should not be a death sentence, social or literal. The inability to have a fulfilling relationship is in no way comparable to only being able to have one. It's insultingly inaccurate, like a man trying to empathize with someone who's homeless by expressing that they too are unable to buy a summer home.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@bbgamegodpnw You know I've heard a lot of things compared to homosexuality, but this is the first time, perhaps ever, that I've heard someone try to argue for the sinfulness of homosexuality by comparing it to two separate things that are also not sin.
@oscarnatino5355
@oscarnatino5355 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford Brother, but sex with a condom and masturbation are sins. They are sexual activities that heavily involve lust, a capital sin. We confess these things in the confessional.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@oscarnatino5355 I'm laughing, though unfortunately I know you're serious. Lust isn't even a sin, it's just sexual desire. At worst it's temptation. And if we're calling temptation a sin then I'm afraid we need a new messiah. Masturbation is normal and healthy. Sex with a condom is safe and often morally correct, especially in cases where you can not care for a child. Even the Vatican allows for some minor contraceptive measures, mostly menstrual tracking and pulling out. But here's the thing, if Mary had a baby you're not gonna outsmart God with a condom, or even by having a vasectomy. If you wanna confess that, that's your business but the more I hear, the less I'm convinced.
@user-dd3tt1ov4i
@user-dd3tt1ov4i 4 жыл бұрын
Rom 1,26- 32 Rev 21,8 ; 22,15 2 Cor 6,14 Gal 6,7- 8 Eph 4, 20-24 Col 3,5- 7 The attitude of Catholic Church on homosexuality is very clear.
@ddrse
@ddrse 4 жыл бұрын
You have with you the law. I find no fault with the lgbtq
@ddrse
@ddrse 4 жыл бұрын
@Lijah you have with you the law. And by the law all the LGBT will perish. I however find no fault with them. What have they done? The spirit that crucified Christ is in you.
@ddrse
@ddrse 4 жыл бұрын
@Lijah we both agree you have with you the law. I find no fault with the lgbtq
@user-dd3tt1ov4i
@user-dd3tt1ov4i 4 жыл бұрын
@@ddrse Of course we have the law, and it says nobody with homosexual sin on his\her soul will enter the haeven. That"s the teaching\attitide\truth of the Catholuc Church. Search for lies somewhere else, not in the Church!
@ddrse
@ddrse 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-dd3tt1ov4i I agree you have with you the law.
@joycorcoran8559
@joycorcoran8559 3 жыл бұрын
I respect the Proesthood but WHY DON'T U JUST ANSWER PLAINLY ?
@devolutionist9008
@devolutionist9008 3 жыл бұрын
He seems to know his stuff but to me it's really annoying the way Fr. Schmidt talks.
@jesuschristmyking8644
@jesuschristmyking8644 3 жыл бұрын
Dancing around the topic...open up your eyes to the deception.
@sarahsabino7279
@sarahsabino7279 3 жыл бұрын
I’m confused by your question, what was not answered plainly?
@chukwuemekamusic6635
@chukwuemekamusic6635 3 жыл бұрын
because maybe you were impatient to understand how He addressed the question at hand step by step. Fr. James brought up a tricky statement that needed to be uncovered and exposed.
@Massolgy
@Massolgy 3 жыл бұрын
That because they both dont want you to JUDGE THEM. They want men to love them not God. God clearly forbids homosexuality and transgenderism
@midshot
@midshot 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are spiritually and mentally nourishing. Church teachings is alive. And devoted generations of continuity and consistency by asking the guidance of the Holy Spirit. We may think we understand the context and write a book about it. But the collective Church guides us, maybe not in a good way all the time. It blew my mind when fr. Mike critiqued the quote and making it flat when extrapolated. X does not mean Y. Popes even call great councils throughout ages to advance the teachings. Thank you for this.
@Tyrannosaurus_5000
@Tyrannosaurus_5000 2 жыл бұрын
Where did the Church ever magisterially teach that "capital punishment must be eradicated" without any qualification?
@jean-baptistegiroux6228
@jean-baptistegiroux6228 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks Fr.Mike!
@carolchirolas7603
@carolchirolas7603 4 жыл бұрын
Amen, Fr Mike!
@Bros60
@Bros60 4 жыл бұрын
Former homosexual saved by the grace of God. I am no longer gay, but I have Aids. I am the founder of the Brothers of Padre Pio. I will not fear calling guys out by name. Guys like Jim Martin.
@Cos263
@Cos263 4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Sale you didn’t get aids because you’re homosexual. Straight people, including babies, have gotten aids
@michaelkeane1644
@michaelkeane1644 4 жыл бұрын
Chris hope you get well .May I ask what are your thoughts on the Church ruling on Homosexuals .I know if I have sex outside of marriage its a sin and that sin kills the Holy Spirit in my life until I confess and try not do it again . I am talking as a Hetrosexual .I dont agree with any changes in the Church Law .
@meganharoldson8785
@meganharoldson8785 4 жыл бұрын
Prayers Christopher 🙏
@j.r.r5863
@j.r.r5863 4 жыл бұрын
Jyl Gray But gay men have a higher chance of acquiring aids
@FQuintanaMarrero
@FQuintanaMarrero Ай бұрын
Oh wow!! You think homosexuality is “curable” 🤦🏻‍♂️
@elchristianpodcast
@elchristianpodcast 6 ай бұрын
Really good! I have an episode on my english show with Father Martin, we didn't touch that subject, but for sure it kinda comes up in his book Come Forth. I've read many books lately that support this idea too, but it's always in an indirect way, like in the book Curveball by Peter Enns, is subtle too. Anyway, this is cool! Saludos!
@MyDearestTinaMarie
@MyDearestTinaMarie Жыл бұрын
I am 58 years old. I am considering marriage but can no longer have children. Am I permitted to marry a man?
@RumorHazi
@RumorHazi 2 ай бұрын
No, “marriage” is a Sacrament of the Church and is reserved for one man and one woman. I’m sure you can marry whoever you want, just not in the Catholic Church. Sorry if that’s not the answer you wanted.
@Grokford
@Grokford Ай бұрын
Of course you can, for all the excuses that people can come up with, they don't actually care if you can have children or not. They just want to match a certain norm so that they're comfortable. So long as it looks like a woman and a man, they don't care.
@RumorHazi
@RumorHazi Ай бұрын
@@Grokford No idea what that means. Who is “they” exactly?
@Grokford
@Grokford Ай бұрын
@@RumorHazi Well I wasn't writing to you. But "they" are all the people who claim that the problem with Queer marriages are the inability to conceive. It's a lie, it always has been. Because a trans man and a cis man can't get married, but the infertile straight couple can. It's about appearances and normalcy, not doctrine.
@reniaesaddler8632
@reniaesaddler8632 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus spoke in a simple, straightforward way, because we know in our hearts what he is saying. If we don’t know, it’s because we choose to not know. God gave everyone the ability to know the truth. Extra language is meant for one thing: deception.
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
Or getting the word count right
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
But seriously have you read the Bible? Any of the genealogies? Psalms? Literally any part of the Bible except Jude and Philemon? People talk fancy sometimes. Just because you don't like to read doesn't mean people who like to write are sinning.
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 3 жыл бұрын
Spoken by someone whose critical thinking skills are no longer functioning.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Nuance be damned I suppose. Straightforward went out the window as a possibility a millenium and a half ago.
@nagwagi2000
@nagwagi2000 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't get any answers.
@vkbowers
@vkbowers 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZl4etueq6vPiZs.html
@vkbowers
@vkbowers 4 жыл бұрын
Part 2:
@leekeith2212
@leekeith2212 3 жыл бұрын
Lotta dancing from fr tho
@momaurier596
@momaurier596 4 ай бұрын
Shame on those who dare to criticize God’s creation. Shame on you!
@jameshammond3853
@jameshammond3853 3 жыл бұрын
LGBT brothers and sisters:::: You are loved. God loves you. Always remember this ❤
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
This is very necessary. Thank you for being bold in an oft hurtful area.
@paulwright8064
@paulwright8064 2 жыл бұрын
James Hammond- thanks but I am a male with same sex orientation I don't use the LGBTQ, now LGBTQIA+ label. I know God loves me. That's why I follow His Commandments and the greatest is Love.
@squirtle7G1
@squirtle7G1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I wish other people in this comments section were as compassionate
@domb463
@domb463 Жыл бұрын
Except we can’t have love with someone else
@equine2020
@equine2020 Жыл бұрын
Yes God loves all. But, sex outside marriage is a sin. Allies to all. And marriage is a bond between male/female. To procreate our species. Celibacy must be practiced by anyone not married.
@finarentz3814
@finarentz3814 2 жыл бұрын
I would really love it if they brought Fr. James Martin himself over for an interview. Its interesting how the Church seems to be so divergent over the topic of homosexuality and it there ought to be more forums to discuss the isssue.
@guywill7875
@guywill7875 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the video. I wonder what credentials if any Father Mike Schmidtz has that allows him to make these videos about a variety of serious issues Catholics have. I found his views homophobic. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y52dfZqQ2pfbdYU.html
@RealAugustusAutumn
@RealAugustusAutumn 2 жыл бұрын
There's no "forums" necessary. The Bible and the Church are quite clear on the teaching, and any dissenters should be stripped of their titles.
@patriciajohnson1894
@patriciajohnson1894 9 ай бұрын
He wouldn't do these interviews
@cardesigner
@cardesigner 6 ай бұрын
The demons controlling Martin wouldn’t allow him to this show.
@finarentz3814
@finarentz3814 6 ай бұрын
@@cardesigner Damn shizo posting
@thethirdjegs
@thethirdjegs 4 жыл бұрын
Final part about silence. Whaaaaaaaaaaat! I never realized that!
@littlejohn123
@littlejohn123 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like when people say 'Jesus has never said anything about it' As if they've lived 2000 years ago And as if everything said by Jesus is written in the Bible! That contradicts John <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1285">21:25</a>( the last verse of the Gospel of St. John)
@joepugh678
@joepugh678 3 ай бұрын
You're right, not everything Jesus said was written in the Gospels. He might have said something nice about it, but including that in the gospel would have been quite awkward.
@guirnaldadeoro9343
@guirnaldadeoro9343 3 жыл бұрын
Two bright minds giving arguments and speaking true. Thank you!
@CA6989_
@CA6989_ 3 жыл бұрын
I from a family of Jews (Sephardic, mirzahi,Ashkenazic, Romaniote, Falasha,etc.), Muslims (Sufi from Pakistan ánd bektashi), Christianity (Catholic,bapist, orthodox), free faith/spiritaully and indigenous cultures. I thought God loved all no matter what Hate/discrimination etc. Is the opposite of God wishes
@rosarymanpio
@rosarymanpio 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for speaking the truth guys!!
@necelticsox
@necelticsox 4 жыл бұрын
It's one thing to say the truth. It's another thing to use language that is clearly not effective in convincing people. And the worst offense against truth is saying something over and over again in a way you know nobody is understanding.
@sodetsurikomigoshi2454
@sodetsurikomigoshi2454 3 жыл бұрын
Some think he's being ambivalent...he starts to break down martin's statement at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a>. Without being a firebrand like voris or michael matt, he does give a straightforward rebuke of martin's statement.
@ZeniaLarsen
@ZeniaLarsen 3 жыл бұрын
It never reads that one should not love a man as they love a woman. It's always the sexual act. Now, do we know the hearts of couples in a loving relationship, perhaps bringing up children in the Church? I can't know if the married couple next to me are watching porn at home. I just assume that they go to church because of their love for God and desire to belong to Christ. There's no reason to not assume the same of a same sex couple. Partnerships can be intimate and loving without the intention of them being sexual.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
I agree and that is an oft neglected point but there's nothing wrong with sex either.
@brumboru
@brumboru 11 ай бұрын
I showed my 3 daughters Father Mike as one they said he’s gay , just what I thought
@FQuintanaMarrero
@FQuintanaMarrero Ай бұрын
So what?! If he is gay, what of it?! What does his sexuality have to do with his job? Please explain that to me, because I'm fed up with listening too much bushit about it.
@nateg6525
@nateg6525 8 ай бұрын
Matt, not sure you’ll see this. But it’s amazing how much your interview skills and production value has gone up over the last 4 years. Love the podcast! Keep it up
@johnpro2847
@johnpro2847 Жыл бұрын
i am losing track of which youtube priests and bishops are fighting each other
@billygoat6497
@billygoat6497 3 жыл бұрын
God did not make People to have same sex attraction.
@RandKreun
@RandKreun 3 жыл бұрын
And you know because ... you are vexed or know what it is to be homosexual?
@snannibal
@snannibal 3 жыл бұрын
oh jeez I wonder how I came to be then..aliens??
@Shadpoke
@Shadpoke 3 жыл бұрын
I like Mike Schmitz, But he stutters and stammers to much answering a question. It is like he is dancing around a fire. John the Baptist had no fear calling things the way they are and Jesus honored him for that. John didn’t stutter or stammer.
@cjlomeli1137
@cjlomeli1137 3 жыл бұрын
He's finding the right words to not sound rude or disrespectful to anyone.
@jitterbug9595
@jitterbug9595 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjlomeli1137 at this point in time our shepherds need to start talking truth and stop worrying about who gets offended. The Catholic church has stood idly by so as to not offend others for far too long and it has done nothing. Now it's time to call those people out.
@cjlomeli1137
@cjlomeli1137 3 жыл бұрын
@@jitterbug9595 I agree... I was just refurring to why he may be stuttering.
@jiam534
@jiam534 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nL2KZJpiu5bbdYU.html
@drm7552
@drm7552 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe because Fr. Mike isn't John the Baptist...?
@cookielove9310
@cookielove9310 4 жыл бұрын
God's got this🙏💕
@JJ-qt6wc
@JJ-qt6wc 2 ай бұрын
Prime example of the interviewer getting in the way of the interviewee. Ask your question and close your mouth. Learn to LISTEN and allow your viewers to LISTEN to the authority.
@christianenke9988
@christianenke9988 7 ай бұрын
I don't see God being irate when two men or women kiss each other as a sign of peace at Mass. But the Bible is full of and clear about God's will - I can see His tears that we ignore Him - when it comes to how we should care for the poor and refugees and bullied and so on... Please, fellow Catholics, let us focus on the important message in the Bible - i.e. about divine love!
@johnhora4644
@johnhora4644 3 жыл бұрын
Father Mike I'm really disappointed in your responses. Maybe I'm missing something here
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 3 жыл бұрын
Science says psychopaths are born that way. Why would god allow that??
@johnhora4644
@johnhora4644 3 жыл бұрын
@@jerzybala8339 same reason HE allows people to mock & disbelieve HIS existence
@websterlee7708
@websterlee7708 4 жыл бұрын
A Catholic Priest arguing from Jesus’s silence on the matter demonstrates poor formation.
@AccordionJoe1
@AccordionJoe1 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows about homosexuality, it would be a Catholic priest. Estimates from Catholic organization state that more than 50 percent of all Catholic clerics are active homosexuals.
@kdmdlo
@kdmdlo 3 жыл бұрын
And how do you arrive at this 50%? I know a lot of priests ... a lot. And they simply are not gay.
@VlaamsSoldat
@VlaamsSoldat 2 жыл бұрын
Why do modern priests dance around the problem of sin? :(
@kensearle4892
@kensearle4892 3 жыл бұрын
Before I knew who Fr. James Martin was, I read one of his books called 'Jesus a Pilgrimage' where I enjoyed the descriptions of geographical locations. However, I noticed that whenever he came to Scripture passages, instead of clarifying, he repeatedly made them more ambiguous with 2-3-4-5 different meanings, introducing confusion. I had wanted to use the book in an Adult Faith study but by the end didn't because there was a pattern of introducing confusion.
@deb9806
@deb9806 3 жыл бұрын
I never read that book but he has many wonderful ones including a great one on prayer I bought last week.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Well if there were one objective answer to scripture then we wouldn't have had the bloody history that the church has had. Add it holes in the history of the regions mentioned in scripture and it's a very ambiguos topic. Expecting definite answers is usually a mistake, especially when dealing with historical events.
@kellyrogers9459
@kellyrogers9459 4 жыл бұрын
In having read a lot of Fr Martin’s work and listened to a lecture he gave on this very topic, I think he would say that we need to apply the same standard to all Catholics. If we are going to reduce LGBTQ people to only their sexuality then we should do the same to straight people. We should focus on if straight people are using contraception, infertility treatments, cohabitating before marriage, etc in the same way some fixate on LGBTQ people’s sexuality rather than treating them as whole beloved children of God. My take away from Fr. Martin’s writing and speech is to create community first. To recognize the hurt people have felt and focus on them as whole individuals who have value and gifts for our Church. He is not trying to change or oppose any teaching of the Church. Rather he is seeking to include people currently on the margins (who are already baptized members of our Church) just as Jesus did with Zacchaeus and the woman at the well.
@leost.pierre7205
@leost.pierre7205 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely right. Plainly said. It is mortal sin for anyone to have sex outside of marriage. Straight or gay. Like mother Angelica said. Sympathize for the devout Catholic who is gay for it must be a lonely life to never have a partner. God loves everyone. And the problem with society around the world today is the mentality that we need to have sex therefore if I'm gay I have the right to have sexual relations. Maybe so. But God condemns every sexual act outside of marriage and since gays cannot and never will be allowed to marry in the church they will always have that cross to bare. Gods will be done. Not ours.
@kellyrogers9459
@kellyrogers9459 4 жыл бұрын
John Murphy, I respectfully disagree. Your logic is the same as saying because someone identifies as being African American all he or she cares about is race. This is utterly false. LGBTQ people are also doctors, teachers, social workers, priests, women religious, attorneys, etc. They are whole humans who deserve to be treated as just that whole humans whom God lovingly created. They do not deserve to be reduced to merely their sexuality, just as an African American does not deserve to be reduced just to his/her race. But you must acknowledge that in both cases outside forces have caused these parts of their identity to be scrutinized, criticized etc and therefore it may result in pain for the individual and a special pastoral care should in my opinion to be administered regarding these topics.
@johnsposato5632
@johnsposato5632 2 жыл бұрын
@@c-zar-0017 After Vatican II, but not because of it. I was taught all of those things are wrong, and I was taught it after VII.
@larrywethington5936
@larrywethington5936 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but that is simply not true.
@larrywethington5936
@larrywethington5936 Жыл бұрын
@@leost.pierre7205 Not absolutely right. Only partly right. The other evils should be condemned and preached against, but Fr. James Martin is trying to justify homosexuality.
@henryweaver667
@henryweaver667 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t anyone know the meaning of CELEBACY????
@cadenphilley9728
@cadenphilley9728 3 жыл бұрын
Do you?
@jerzybala8339
@jerzybala8339 3 жыл бұрын
Yea tried it once never again!
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Why does it matter, no one is obligated to celibacy.
@joepugh678
@joepugh678 3 ай бұрын
I know how to spell it.
@royschalk6554
@royschalk6554 Ай бұрын
@@Grokford Priests and nuns are
@elitisthavoc3949
@elitisthavoc3949 2 жыл бұрын
St. Peter Damian, pray for us.
@zacharypayne4080
@zacharypayne4080 4 жыл бұрын
Look how scared they are tip toeing around the issue!
@TheDailyBraap
@TheDailyBraap 4 жыл бұрын
we are so screwed
@fc2977
@fc2977 4 жыл бұрын
So careful, it took him four minutes to give the answer. Everyone knew it was an abomination 10,000 years ago and all the way up until now. Except now we have people like Fr Jimmy, encouraged by other deceitful clergy, attempting to confuse and lead homosexuals astray.
@adrianatorres4813
@adrianatorres4813 4 жыл бұрын
I think they managed it perfectly correct. But anyone who is wise and knows the power of words knows that you can't Just say things that could be misinterpreted and could make unnecesary antagonism.
@gertrudesantos5550
@gertrudesantos5550 4 жыл бұрын
@@fc2977 l see your point, however Fr. Schmitz has made an attempt in responding to an erroneous priest and although it wasn't very strong, the message was not in support of false teachings. We definitely have to pray for priests. Their souls are number one on the devil's list. Pray that Fr. Schmitz perserves and stays true to his priestly vocation. And that he may increase his ability to combat the evil that resides in the Church. God bless you.
@gertrudesantos5550
@gertrudesantos5550 4 жыл бұрын
And pray for priests that teach heresy that they will repent from the destructive path they are treading.
@tecnicell7210
@tecnicell7210 3 жыл бұрын
Father Mike is a great priest. I would like him to be my brother.
@sherrymelane8694
@sherrymelane8694 11 ай бұрын
AMEN ❤
@martinospitaletta8198
@martinospitaletta8198 Жыл бұрын
So the Pope is to judge in doctrinal matters, but what is the catholic doctrine? Fr. James Martin or Fr. Mark Schmitz?? Or is the official doctrine now pick and choose and live long and prosper?
@matthewterry9413
@matthewterry9413 4 жыл бұрын
Very happy that Fr. Mike is boldly standing for the truth despite cultural pressure
@marjanaavsec8392
@marjanaavsec8392 2 жыл бұрын
Amen🎺🙏
@1951kvk
@1951kvk 4 жыл бұрын
Father Mike speaks the "truth in charity."
@justforrfunnn
@justforrfunnn Жыл бұрын
Matt AND Fr Mike?! ❤️☺️
@ChrisRoxDuhh
@ChrisRoxDuhh Жыл бұрын
His argument of "context" falls bc if he says "well the Greeks and Roman's accepted homosexuality, so the argument falls flat that those were different times" okay so what about mixing fabrics, I'm sure they were open to that and now we're doing that, so should we cease?
@drm7552
@drm7552 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Fr. Mike and Matt think about the fact that Jewish law recognized six gender variations, even in Jesus' day. I think there is a lot of cultural context we really *don't* know, and like Fr. Mike said, certain things were just taken for granted.
@user-jb8wm6mh6m
@user-jb8wm6mh6m 3 жыл бұрын
Are you Jewish or Catholic? Do you observe Shabbat, or Sunday Mass?
@drm7552
@drm7552 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-jb8wm6mh6m I am Catholic. Jesus was Jewish, speaking primarily to fellow Jews, and again, as Fr. Mike said, certain things were just taken for granted in that context.
@drm7552
@drm7552 2 жыл бұрын
@SKirLEX You haven't even taken the time to research it, so why comment? Happy new year.
@drm7552
@drm7552 2 жыл бұрын
@SKirLEX Were you not speaking authoritatively when you said there is "nothing like what I even mentioned?" It's not terribly difficult to look up, and I didn't post one source because you can find several. Not replying further because I don't want to start the new year by arguing with strangers on the internet. I do mean it when I wish you a good year. 🕊️
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
I thought it was strange to be referencing Greco-Roman culture for Leviticus when Rome was barely an idea. Do you have any links to information about Ancient Jewish conceptions of gender because I would be quite interested in learning more.
@strive4252
@strive4252 4 жыл бұрын
Why can't people just say it like it is, and acknowledge James Martin is heretic. These are dangerous times and the flock of the Church needs to know who the wolves are.
@AJ-ox8xy
@AJ-ox8xy 4 жыл бұрын
Many reasons. 1. Is because of it is taboo in our culture now. So they could turn away followers. 2. Is because they're not the Pope. They can't just excommunicate who they want. 3. Many have done what you are asking and they're dead or disappeared/ sent off out of the public eye.
@jiherrera7418
@jiherrera7418 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why people take the position that Jesus never spoke about THIS or THAT personally, therefore it carries less or NO weight. The very beginning of John's Gospel makes clear: "In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the WORD WAS God." Jesus IS the Incarnate Word of God--God made flesh. It reasons that if Sacred Scripture is the infallible Word of God, in the words and devices of men--men that He selected--that whatever is written, is written FOR God, BY God, and therefore, by Christ. It's not a "Bridge too Far" to understand that, I don't think...???
@thomaslipari1458
@thomaslipari1458 4 жыл бұрын
At one point the guy says, "...dick..." and the guy wearing the priest costume just LAUGHS!
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