CRK FLUORINATED GREASE VS KPL HEAVY ON ROCKSTEAD HIGO
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3 жыл бұрынchris reeves crk fluorinated grease vs kpl heavy on rockstead higo
grease vs kpl heavy
Rockstead Higo maintenance
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@toddcarr. 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see these type of vids with actual comparisons. I tend to use non toxic grease on washers and mineral oil on bearings(also non toxic) but I use mine for food prep sometimes. Will have to try out the kpl heavy sometimes to see the difference. Great vid keep making sharp things fun.
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
The kpl is nice because it smells like cinnamon so no worries with food imo
@ronfry5851 3 жыл бұрын
Another fine job thank you very much sir
@rossginn1171 Жыл бұрын
Great content dude 🙌🏻
@CobraKaiNoMercy 2 жыл бұрын
I used some KPL Heavy in my Rockstead Higo X and am very happy with it. I think for a knife with such oversized washers grease is better than knife oil and the KPL Heavy is the perfect compromise.
@thomascampanis Жыл бұрын
I love this knife. How would you sharpen a convex grind without affecting the mirror polish? I use an edge pro. I know they claim you can strop it back for years but just curious.
@paulmills426 2 жыл бұрын
Do you do anything to the wood to keep it nice on the Higo or is it pretty worry free? I just bought one but mine has the carbon fiber inlay and I think the wood looks better but I figured I'd probably scratch the crap out of it or something.
@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shot my guy got a rockstead!!! The one I been wanting to hell yea man!!! I finally got my hands on a all black out pro tech Malibu!! Can’t wait to get it in
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
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@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives wow that’s amazing! Lol
@Haveaknifeday73 2 жыл бұрын
Just got this coming in the mail today- looking forward to it - ty for the video- I love the CRK's except for the thumb studs cant stand them except for the Zaan but that has only one option pretty common for me personally
@harryberry474 7 ай бұрын
@theknifewife7924...I feel the same about the Sebenza thumb stud most say "learn to position your thumb" or build up a callous, that just tells me it's a poorly designed thumb stud I have a huge collection of folders enough to open my own knife store and the Sebenza is just a crap design...(sorry) NOT sorry fan boys) it'll never get changed though. I've got 2 Rocksteads a Higo II and a Hizen both with ZDP189 and disappointed on both the edge sharpness didn't last very long at all only used 10-20 times to cut boxes to fit in recycle bin, nothing like some of the demonstrations I've seen where they stay remarkably sharp after hundreds and hundreds of cuts...they're beautiful knives though and it's not recommended to sharpen yourself you're supposed to send back to Rockstead for that. So they've been sitting in my knife cabinet for close to 2 years. They're practically brand new.
@Haveaknifeday73 7 ай бұрын
@@harryberry474 I switched replaced thumb studs on new sabenza with timascus oversized studs - and it's awesome
@harryberry474 7 ай бұрын
@@Haveaknifeday73...I switched my large Sebenza to dual studs bought on Etsy from NapoliEDC they were the only ones I could find that have machined shoulder that fits into the Sebenza thumb stud hole for secure fit unlike others that just have a threaded piece that fits loosely in the hole in the blade. Do you have link for timascus studs and was this a Large or Small Sebenza? Also through my research I've found many aftermarket studs claim to fit both Large and Small if you have both L&S you'll notice the stock studs are different sizes.
@lancemillward1912 3 жыл бұрын
Little goes a long way
@harryberry474 3 жыл бұрын
I came here and watched to see the knife taken apart 😀 and pleasantly surprised to see that Rockstead uses a pivot bushing like CK. Do all Rockstead's use a pivot bushing? I'm thinking about getting their smaller Hizen ZDP...to start off anyway. My next after that would be the Higo II X. I contacted Rockstead to inquire about the material they use for the detent ball and kind of put off they don't use ceramic ball, the steel they use is called SKD11 and from what I could find it's a type of D2. My inquiry was pertaining to the Hizen so unsure if ALL their knives use SKD11. Concerned about this because of the Rockwell hardness of their blades...but I'm not a knife manufacture so what do I know. But the site I found describing SKD11 said it's normally hardened up to 61Rc
@knifeaddict1014 2 жыл бұрын
Would like a stropping video on the rockstead, I know they recommend Jeans 👖, cut a piece and make a strop out of it, but I’m not sure about what compound to use.
@jdbaker82 2 жыл бұрын
Being in the custom keyboard hobby we use krytox 205g0 for keyboard switches this would probably be better than the CRK grease.
@optimuscrime608 3 жыл бұрын
KPL heavy was designed for the detent track. It’s way too heavy for the pivot.
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
It worked great! And i was under the impression its for washers while the other is for bearings
@optimuscrime608 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives I’m sure it won’t hurt a thing. But here’s what KPL says. “KPL Heavy™ is a higher viscosity version of the KPL you know and love. KPL Heavy is highly thixotropic/shear thinning formula designed specifically for knife detents and detent tracks. Ordinarily gel-like, each time your lock mechanism clicks into place, the shock refluidizes KPL Heavy allowing it to refresh the lubrication of your detent ball. When sitting without shock/shear, the KPL heavy regains its higher viscosity so it stays put near the detent. The unique properties of KPL Heavy revolutionize detent care. Eliminate scratchy detents, lubricate less often, and trust KPL Heavy to remain SUPER washout resistant”
@slayer7682 3 жыл бұрын
I have KPL original and I use sentry original tuff glide. I am new to all this I just got my 1sr CR and just used that Fluorinated grease first time as I am watching this . I didn't even think to lube up the detent track . I didnt even no some grease is for bearings and some is for washers I just been experimenting. I been messing with my 0566 Zt trying to get that drop shut I took of the speed safe . I tried the cr grease , gonna let it sit for a few days . than see if the kpl or tuff glide works better. I like the dry tuff glide so far the best from my other knives Thanks for the tutorial . If you got any info on which I should use on bearings and on washers or does it even really matter. Gave you a sub
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I personally did not like the tuff glide, especially compared to kpl, for washers I like grease, and bearings kpl I've tried lots of pivot oil nothing compares
@slayer7682 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives so you like the CR fluorinated grease on any washers . thanks for getting back to me. let you no how it goes
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@slayer7682 yes usually and thanks for the sub 👊
@tima7662 3 жыл бұрын
Jared, have you watched KPL’s you tube videos? Very similar to what you do except they use the light on washers and heavy on detent track. Still that Rockstead is a thing of beauty! I use a lot of KPL on my knives and they seem to stay smooth longer
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I tried the light on washers and i prefers a grease or something heavier normally, sometimes its good but i guess it depends also oil on ti framelocks with no insert makes horrible lock stick so i like to have something heavier
@_MiMo_ 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Pro-Shot Zero Friction. Seems to work fine but I don't know any different.
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was the same way for a long time, kpl is the best ive found after trying different stuff, and it has a good smell so your knife doesnt smell like oil
@kirkveesaert9595 3 жыл бұрын
CRK grease is good , the 10 weight Nano oil is my choice , some guys like to mix the two , neat review !
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely its great, especially on the CRK with the pockets in the washers
@jimsheppard910 3 жыл бұрын
In the blue corner... the CRK Greaser. And in the red corner...the KPL Heavy. Mega match of the year.
@chrisspanks7750 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jared I have the work sharp precision adjust and for some reason when sharpening my 0393 could only get a burr on half of the blade. The tip half could never get a burr, any idea why ?
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Most likely you just had to work on it longer, which might be longer than you think if your reprofiling, and if the thickness changes one half will get a burr before the thicker half, or could be a poor heat treat, and last thing make sure your blade isnt moving, mark your blade after putting it in device with a marker and make sure its not moving, also pressure can push the blade down on that machine so try not to use pressure on the stone
@chrisspanks7750 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives thanks man, maybe it's the weird grind on that blade. Made a Lot of passes and was concerned i was talking too much steel off. Back half sharp as hell front sucks
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisspanks7750 yeah mark the blade after clamping, to make sure its not moving, dont use a lot of pressure, and watch the grit pattern so you can see the scratch pattern move from the back of the bevel to the very apex tip of the edge
@knifeaddict1014 2 жыл бұрын
Grease on detent ball oil on washer, that’s how I run it
@lavenderpants8695 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like a bit of grease on the detent ball and track. Try it!
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think sometimes it just depends on size pressure exc..
@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious would the crk washers work on the higo?
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
No because one is small on the CRK maybe the larger one but im not sure
@knifeaddict1014 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha I was just curious bub! Thanks
@harryberry474 3 жыл бұрын
KnifeAddict...Maybe drilling out the Rockstead bushings would work. It would be a delicate job but might be doable.
@tripleceas 4 ай бұрын
I mix gunny glide and krytox gpl on my crk and all my pivots. It’s so smooth. Lasts forever. I won’t use the fluorinated grease that comes with crk
@NeevesKnives 4 ай бұрын
ocd 4 edc has slickemall and its really good
@Zachariahfml 2 жыл бұрын
Phosphor bronze is self lubricating that's why they use it. I would've just cleaned it really good and polished the washers and you would've been fine
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
Self lubrication means the surface is slick that doesn't mean it lubricates its self, I did polish the washers on this already but adding a bit of oil or grease on most knives benefits the action especially on the detent, I do agree though some do better dry in the pivot with oil only on the detent
@Zachariahfml 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives I try to avoid it and let it break in naturally if it's new or just clean it good if it's for maintenance. I find oils clog up action over time and catch a lot of dirt and dust making the initial action better but hindering it over time. I wear sweat pants a lot and man do those lubricants love to catch lint.
@Aa-ron22 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of grease attracts to much dust I like using a dry lubricant
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I have dry lube and it never does good imo compared to kpl, or grease if its washers, night and day difference, i never have issues with dust in my pivots but im not in crazy dirty areas like i used to be, but washers help keep that out already and with grease it seals it really tight
@1130jawz 3 жыл бұрын
In my past experiences what you did was very accurate, it’s over time, use, and carry the CRK grease prevails. The kpl albeit heavy or regular will wear out or dry quicker. And the grease after wear in will make a barrier for dust and gunk. That initial kpl action is so smooth and just butter. I think that is why someone people do a various mix of the two, I haven’t tried that yet. Maybe next video 😂 great videos brother👍
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always heard for washers you want something heavy like grease and for bearings you want oil
@jerseyknifeguy6382 3 жыл бұрын
Yo I didn’t know you can you both lubricants??
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
The detent track is a ball so its not the same as the washers, you want something heavy like grease on washers bearings you want oil
@kevinwells6760 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, you work at a distillery? Are we talking industrial products or consumer spirits? Every distillery I've been to uses their heads as a cleaner, so I'm not surprised you do the same. Nice you get take some home!
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Whiskey, vodka, bourbon, exc... And after the VID19 we started doing hand sanitizer exc.. For hospitals and other places
@tima7662 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives crazy that you work at distillery.! I work for a Spirits and Wine distributor. We had McCormick make sanitizer for us!
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@tima7662 awesome! I havent worked in the past 8 weeks or so but should be going back soon, and i was in construction my whole life and have been doing the distillery for a couple years
@kevinwells6760 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives That's really cool! The spirits (and especially craft spirits) world has been a big passion of mine for the last decade, so I always love when I learn someone is involved in spirits production in some capacity. I'm lucky that Portland has a thriving distillation scene, so there's a ton of people to talk to and learn from.
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