A Training Short about SPAD avoidance (C) ScotRail
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@russiandrivers99863 жыл бұрын
3:52 when he couldn't have a cup of tea, this is when things went really wrong
@sarahstrong71743 жыл бұрын
Very true, hydration is important to brain function.
@Urbanspacefox3 жыл бұрын
Surely making him skip a break ain’t legal either…?
@robbielawson48288 жыл бұрын
How unlucky was that second chap? Attacked twice by minature thugs wielding rocks & air rifles. Nearly hit a confused old dear, then has a spad on his first tour of duty!!!!
@AlonsoRules8 жыл бұрын
yeah it couldn't get any worse - they do say that things happen in threes
@devstrainvlogs32005 жыл бұрын
Yeah a shame
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
don't forget the sheep! 🐑 🐑 🐑
@TheChipmunk20084 жыл бұрын
Watching rail safety videos like this, i am amazed they let nutcases like me drive a car on the roads.... Train drivers are responsible for more lives for sure... but still wow
@williamhuang83092 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't there have been a repeating signal before the old semaphore signal? That way, the driver has more time to notice the signal and slow down.
@XNick291X4 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the interesting and well put together railway training videos out there!
@ChoppingtonOtter7 жыл бұрын
Have to feel sorry for these guys. None of them was lazy or bad at their job, just simple human factors at play.
@tomstickland6 жыл бұрын
Vigilance tasks are the hardest and people will eventually miss something. These guys on average are doing really well.
@gotacallfromvishal5 жыл бұрын
and poor signal and station design that makes mistakes inevitable.
@milkandduckrailway3234 жыл бұрын
meanwhile on the LU, if you watched that video where that woman has a SPAD.....
@arjunsharma76193 жыл бұрын
@@milkandduckrailway323 omg she has such a bad attitude, she should not be a driver
@COIcultist3 жыл бұрын
@@arjunsharma7619 Can you provide a link to this film?
@Angus19668 жыл бұрын
Having worked in Sydney Signal boxes the demand of 12 hour rotating shifts without proper protocol for toilet or meal brakes , employee fatigue was and still is a real concern.
@stephensmith7999 жыл бұрын
There are lessons here for all walks of life involving moving into danger without realising. This vid deserves a wider audience.
@fdfsdfsvsfgsg48883 жыл бұрын
Not sure about that. Didn't understand a word of it apart from maybe the town names.
@ChangesOneTim2 жыл бұрын
Commentary aided driving; one of the best initiatives for new drivers. Helps the instructor/ trainer as much as the driver.
@JulianShagworthy Жыл бұрын
I do it once or twice a month when driving my car as a matter of course, usually when I'm feeling tired.
@joewalker6436 жыл бұрын
4:53 "bastard" XD
@alexwiddowson37565 жыл бұрын
Actually "I think I've passed it!"
@fetchstixRHD4 жыл бұрын
Alex Widdowson: Nah, he says “bastard” pretty clearly...
@alexwiddowson37564 жыл бұрын
@@fetchstixRHD OK.
@georgehoward79913 жыл бұрын
I think passing a signal by about 3 metres is not the end of the world but in London it may be
@joewalker6433 жыл бұрын
@@georgehoward7991 passing a signal by centimetres is classed as an incident and will have you taken off the unit, drug and alcohol tested, investigation, action plan and will go on your driving record permanently. passing a signal at danger could have major consequences. In that short 3m could be a set of points meaning that there could potentially be a collision. passing a signal is never "not the end of the world" and is always treated seriously.
@sr7791 Жыл бұрын
SPAD’s happen EVERY MINUTE on the ROADS
@angeltransportpjects9 жыл бұрын
That signal at the end of the platform at Stirling was both improperly maintained and impossible for the driver featured to see coming away from the platform at night: All to do with night vision adjustment time having been exposed to platform lighting. The oil lamp on the semaphore signal also did not appear to be working and illuminating the red / green aspect the signal provides alongside the visual up or down / level indication. Very interesting video :o)
@marcuspotter55904 жыл бұрын
That is true but he should have performed his dispatch procedure properly. If he could not see the signal then he should have assumed it to be at danger, called the signaler and held the train until authorised to move by the signaler or a change of signal aspect.
@None-zc5vg4 жыл бұрын
@The secular humanist They saved money by putting in a single-lead junction at Hyde Junction in 1984. This helped turn a SPAD into a head-on collusion in 1991 (resulting partly from a hard-to-see gantry signal above the cab of the errant driver, like 'SN109').
@RWL20123 жыл бұрын
@@None-zc5vg was still British Rail then, or do you mean 1994...?
@modelsteamers6712 жыл бұрын
I'd be very surprised if the signal is oil lit.
@mjt8199 Жыл бұрын
@@modelsteamers671 When this video was made it was highly likely to have still been a paraffin lamp behind the lenses. Only in the last few years have LEDs replaced even low-wattage electric bulbs.
@StuAnderson903 жыл бұрын
Dave Boyce is still train driving in Wales! According to his website, he writes poetry as well
@whangie112 жыл бұрын
He's went from Whole Lotta Love to SPAD risks!
@retrorambles5174 жыл бұрын
That's a heartbreaker
@gunproofgrandad4381Ай бұрын
Good Times, SPAD Times
@darrencafferty9 жыл бұрын
Signal Passed At Danger
@njm1971nyc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have no connection to the rail industry, just a "curious person", so was interested to know what on Earth a "SPAD" is!
@raakone9 ай бұрын
@@njm1971nyc I think "SPAD" is a British-ism. In North America, "Danger" is just called "Stop."
@berillyispogАй бұрын
@@raakoneno its a industry term if they used something general or had no term it wouldnt be organised
@trainstrains13 жыл бұрын
No driver sets out to SPAD and it takes a very real toll on your personal physiology. Any rail investigator will tell you that any incident is always because of the failure of a number of things as this video shows. The hardest part of preventing SPADs is getting drivers to open up when they've got personal problems. The former CEO of my railway started out as a driver on the London Underground. I started driving trains in Sydney in 1984. Even though we started in railways on opposite sides of the world we were both told the same thing..."When something is going wrong then STOP and take a moment to think about the problem". Drivers need to recognise: 1. when things are getting on top of them 2. if something has gone wrong then don't make it worse by trying to keep going or cover it up and 3. if you're having personal issues please ask for help, no-one will think less of you and most will admire it for you. I always tell my drivers "It's easier to explain a delay than it is to explain a derailment or worse". There is a belief out there at least on my railway (not always unwarranted) that they'll hang you for causing a delay. If the delay is for no real reason then you deserve to be hung but if there was a very good reason then nobody can touch you. The fact is that SPADs cost a railway a lot of money whereas a delay is an inconvenience. Losing an experienced driver who made a mistake and has learnt their lesson means that the organisation is not learning and will keep making the same mistakes.
@JulianShagworthy Жыл бұрын
4:21 That's the same guy who presents these videos and it's hilarious how he's putting on a scouse accent here to add to the anger lol
@FerroequinologistofColorado Жыл бұрын
I was literally just gonna say “that looks like Paul Tyreman”
@gotacallfromvishal5 жыл бұрын
i think steve was actually messing with the buzzer. i mean just look at his weasle-y face.
@MM0IMC4 жыл бұрын
An important and difficult subject, treated with sensitivity.
@AlonsoRules8 жыл бұрын
The guy at 17:00 sums up a lot of industries right there, not just railways. When people are so used to everything running without issue, when something is different, it doesn't register.
@xaiano7947 жыл бұрын
That's because you see the same thing literally every day for 10 years, it can be a little hard to get out of that routine.
@Captaincruncher-qy9hf9 жыл бұрын
That platform starter at Stirling (signal 70),looked a bit of a bastard & poor to sight when coming out of the brightly lit station environment. Could have certainly benefited from being converted to a co-acting or even better a colour light.
@catlover49716 жыл бұрын
When all is said and done the most important thing for a driver to have is an incontinence pad
@EssexLocomotiveEnthusiast10 жыл бұрын
thank you for uploading this,its a good topic for conversation and one of my friends relatives is a driver. i know he will find this interesting and helpful.
@timorgano12 жыл бұрын
Robert Plant has taken a bit of a change of career I see
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
haha I was thinking that, among other things :P I wonder if Will Smith from the Vale of Rheidol Railway is watching, haha
@clayz14 жыл бұрын
TheOregono He’s still a hero though.
@harrymcklein2923 жыл бұрын
@@clayz1 whats he doing now?
@alfrancisnh3 жыл бұрын
"And he's ruuunninngg a Railwaaaayy through Scotland"
@harrymcklein2923 жыл бұрын
@@alfrancisnh im missing the joke here.. Whats this guy doing now??
@neilburns88692 жыл бұрын
I did think that after such a traumatic incident as the stone-throwing one the driver should have had about a month or two off before being invited to return.
@lordbrit46302 күн бұрын
Paul Tyreman as the abusive passenger made me howl 😂
@riverhuntingdon66597 жыл бұрын
As a motorman on Southern Region, I ALWAYS thought you should KNOW YOUR ROAD ! Never mind chavs chucking things on the line, or shooting airguns, my job was to drive safely and protect my crew and passengers. I feel sorry for Bernie though, but with the way it is now, the Train Operating Company will put points on your driver's licence, even though something may not be your fault. They will also get rid of you if you have too much time off as a result of an incident. SouthEastern Trains and sister Southern are notorious for this sort of thing. Glad I'm retired. Don't bother even applying for a job on the failway now. It's full of red tape, arsewipes, and backstabbers galore.
@TonboIV3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the wrong way to deal with failures. Rather than focusing on who is to blame, and deciding that people who fail are bad and should be gotten rid of, you improve safety by figuring out why people failed, helping then learn from their mistakes, and looking at the whole system with fresh eyes to see how it can be changed to make mistakes less likely and less costly when they do happen. People who've learned from past mistakes are an asset.
@grotekleum3 жыл бұрын
@@TonboIV Quite right, but it's always been about blame and buck-passing.
@51WCDodge3 жыл бұрын
It's never the Management , who are in the Dock. I will sacrifice any Company fo rmy Licence.
@grotekleum3 жыл бұрын
No change there then from my experience.
@geoffobrien17833 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree , and this was a very good way of getting rid of drivers who may have been troublesome union reps.
@bobbobless5228 жыл бұрын
The Penarth incident, with reverse curves, why no banner repeater signal? A fixed distant signal isn't enough.
@BritishRailProductions4 жыл бұрын
It's a Branch Line with Single Track British Rail Western Region put at least the home Signal there and a Fixed distant means that you have to approach at caution expecting the Signal to be at danger, if you haven't noticed the Pacer involved in the incident was going faster that it would normally be going if the driver was doing what I have mentioned and what ideally you would do and expect.
@christopherwhitelaw11975 жыл бұрын
Nonetheless, in each of these cases, the driver reacted in a textbook manner. Emergency brake....stop.....check....report. As for the little shits with the air rifle, what were they aiming at? Signals? Trains? People are human. They bring human weaknesses to work, and considering how few major incidents we have on railways, it is a restatement to their professionalism. In fact, I think I’m right in saying most if not all of the injuries and fatalities recently have come from rail failures.
@SiVlog19894 жыл бұрын
That buzzer problem would be enough to distract lesser people trying to drive a train. Hope that all the drivers depicted here have had successful careers and not dwelled on these incidents to a point that it eats away at their mental state
@borisfeigin92057 жыл бұрын
Driving on Valley Lines sounds like not a job for the faint-hearted, lol:) People chucking rocks, wandering on the track, sheep...seriously...
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
don't forget shooting the Pacers with air rifles for good measure, and apparently people have more recently been throwing derail grease devices onto the track (!) At least the signalling has had a major upgrade since then. Those mechanical boxes along the lines are out of use and it's all controlled from Cardiff now.
@taffy40211 жыл бұрын
There has been a number of incidents of trains being hit by children throwing stones in the South Wales Valleys Some idiot dragged a rail greaser onto the track at Llanbradach a few years ago late at night. A two car Pacer train hit it but very fortunately deed not derail.
@stephensmith7999 жыл бұрын
What a great vid. Very thoughtful and clear.
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
because it's an old professional video from the early 2000s that the uploader has nothing to do with as far as I know
@MIRaill8 жыл бұрын
The poor guy who had the rock thrown at him.
@Neil-wb2xl3 жыл бұрын
i was on a charter train and just left the station , picking up a bit of speed and the carriage window bursts in a stone big as a fist boiunces on the table then to the floor, it was an autumn evening coming back from york, and it made for a cold journey.
@bearspence73273 жыл бұрын
Yes it probably really hurts
@Matthewmodeller22912 жыл бұрын
Spad - Signal Passed At Danger!
@scottwarwick75142 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@neilburns88692 жыл бұрын
As far as the driver in Wales is concerned, sadly these incidents aren't uncommon. The two young lads should have faced some kind of sentence through the courts and Crown Prosecution Service.
@ElliottHurst6 ай бұрын
"As the man argued" That man is you mr tyreman!
@iainwalker87013 жыл бұрын
So spuds are good, SPADs are bad. Got it.
@StuAnderson9011 жыл бұрын
Paul Tyreman he has done loads of videos
@dronespace6 жыл бұрын
Great video
@riverhuntingdon66599 жыл бұрын
It would be better if the guard could still look out after the doors shut,he might well have thought "bloody hell it's red!" given one on the bell or "dropped the handle" and perhaps they'd have stopped in time.On many newer units this is no possible, such as 375s and 377s. But all three,driver,guard, and platform staff should've checked the signal aspect. I ALWAYS checked that before moving,and NEVER had a SPAD. They were lucky no damage was done. That DRA Driver's Reminder Appliance thing wasn't much use as it can be overridden.
@riverhuntingdon66599 жыл бұрын
But it's all too easy to fall into traps, as the last driver with the divorce problems, and the faulty buzzer, says. You never stop learning on the railway.
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
@@riverhuntingdon6659 Shouldn't he have taken the train out of service with a faulty buzzer? Talking to Steve (the Conductor) did reveal a likely buzzer fault as he denied all knowledge of using the buzzer.
@Martindyna Жыл бұрын
Yes it always impresses me that, on traIns where it's still possible, the Guard always stands at his open door looking forward until virtually the entire train has left the platform in Australia. He can also see any near platform signals. Search `XPT leaves Penrith for Dubbo' for an example.
@Martindyna Жыл бұрын
@@PottersVideos2 Just in case you weren’t aware I understand from the comments to another video that River has passed away. I will miss him and his vast knowledge of working on the railway (mainly BR I think). And btw his name really was River, before coming across him I’d only heard of River Phoenix. At least he lives on via his KZfaq account.
@Peqches7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, don't read this just a personal note First one, 4:45-5:20 Second one 19:30-20:00 Third one 21:20-22:15
@2112pk3 жыл бұрын
stellar acting, endearing really
@BritishRail600623 жыл бұрын
I would say for the first driver. The delays of both trains and the lack of a break to refresh plus the distraction lead to his train doing a SPAD. The second incident though. I felt sorry for the poor driver because of eejits tossing a rock at his train (which could have killed him if it made contact!) and the woman on the tracks and the sheep incident was all stacked against him. The faulty buzzer unless the guard was doing that stupid and potentially dangerous prank and the poor driver going through a divorce which can be messy was the result of the third SPAD. They are all human and are prone to making mistakes as well like the rest of us. Though thankfully none resulted in a crash.
@dannygayler903 жыл бұрын
100% correct !
@ElectricMotive6 жыл бұрын
In the first spad incident if there was a guard light that illuminates when the platform starting signal is not at danger then it would have been avoided. We have this guard light here in sydney
@pineappleroad3 жыл бұрын
the signal does have a lamp that shines through a coloured piece to indicate the position of the signal (it will appear red when the signal is horizontal, or green when the signal is at 45 degrees) although it seems to be either very dim for some reason, or not even lit
@iamdefective19122 жыл бұрын
@@pineappleroad combination of factors. my say is that its not fully the drivers fault given the factors in the video.
@lordbrit46302 күн бұрын
4:50 most Scottish reaction ever.
@ryanmcquade61576 жыл бұрын
No mention. Of the newton or belgrove train crash. In in Glasgow the the early 90s
@HILLYBILLY201011 жыл бұрын
signal passed at danger!
@garrywilliams66939 жыл бұрын
Why is there no audible voice warning for the prior signal in the cab that is required to be turned off. its much harder to miss such than a mere reset button or such.
@SgtChip3 жыл бұрын
There is, it's just not a voice. If the next signal is green, a bell or chime sounds. If it is red or yellow, a horn sounds and the reset must be acknowledged in two seconds or an emergency brake application occurs.
@manomaylr Жыл бұрын
Semaphores seem quite hard to read at night - they should be converted to light signals or at least have extra lighting provided in front to make it extra clear
@gwyneddboom2579 Жыл бұрын
As far as I’m aware that’s being done.
@Matthewmodeller22912 жыл бұрын
yes!
@kevinheard83642 жыл бұрын
I know absolutely nothing about driving a train (we call it "engineer" here on the "other side of the pond" [I learned that term, too]). At any rate, I find these captivating. Thank you so much for sharing.
@Sam-bz1hr3 жыл бұрын
Only a buzzer on the cab to cab don't get wound up lol
@Catswhiskerdetector10 ай бұрын
I love that ERTMS is kind of the IPv6 of the railway
@peterjones67334 жыл бұрын
I feel for these brave guys. Here is a fact. I see driving trains as a greater responsibility than flying a plane. If something goes wrong on landing, a pilot has the choice to go around. A train driver gets one chance and two options... go or stop, can't turn left, can't turn right. In the UK, I feel very safe riding by train, which I do a lot.
@James28R Жыл бұрын
haha shut up. 36,000 feet up you cant just stop. you know nothing about air travel.
@peterjones6733 Жыл бұрын
@@James28R I probably know more than you do
@Groveish Жыл бұрын
No emergency brakes on the airplane mate.
@peterjones6733 Жыл бұрын
@@Groveish I know that. But they have up, down, left, right, glide to safety if possible. A train driver has… “OH SHIT!”
@PikaPluff Жыл бұрын
@@peterjones6733 wow you replied after 3 years lol. but there is a reason pilots are made to train for YEARS. planes are in the air its more dangerous by common sense. Its not just up down left right, its not stalling, turbulence, engine failure, problems on board etc..
@quintoflyer8 жыл бұрын
when I was a fireman at Saltley , SPADS did happen
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
they used to happen a hell of a lot of times
@johnnyboy39498 жыл бұрын
I'm yet to see one of these videos that doesn't have Paul in them at some point. That guy gets around.
@ssbohio6 жыл бұрын
After analyzing all of these videos, I've identified Paul Tyreman as a significant SPAD risk. He's always there when a SPAD occurs! ;-)
@PottersVideos25 жыл бұрын
4:20 That was a mistake on the part of the dispatcher and conductor. The guy on the platform arguing with the platform staff is Paul Press Tyreman.
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
it sounds like him throughout as well :D except when other people are talking obviously, such as Lynne Milligan of Arriva Trains Wales (yes she was still customer services director right up to the end in late 2018!)
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
he was acting as a passenger in that clip as it was a reconstruction
@DaveDVideoMaker3 жыл бұрын
Wessex Trains is now called GWR.
@StuAnderson9011 жыл бұрын
his name is Paul Tyreman he has done many videos too many to mention to be honest :)
@matthighley14612 жыл бұрын
21:33 "Oh shit!" Actually surprised they allowed that in an official training video. Well put together though!
@TheWestAnglian4 жыл бұрын
HELLO STEVE, HELLO!!! good god...
@phantomcruizer4 жыл бұрын
You should emblement “Automatic Train Stops” like they have in Toronto and New York City subways. You pass a red signal the trains brakes are automatically applied! And the signals should have repeaters and timers on a curve.
@74HC1384 жыл бұрын
They do these days - this is an old video, TPWS is pretty widespread now (which has overspeed sensors and train stops, and is designed to stop a train before it leaves the safety overlap)
@Finley_Stuff Жыл бұрын
The thing is for the last guy. The guard calling as a Buzz not a Beep.
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
9:06 omg she was still the customer services director of Arriva Trains Wales until it went defunct in late 2018!
@drenahmeti225 жыл бұрын
rear speaker she’s part of TfW now!
@rearspeaker63645 жыл бұрын
@@drenahmeti22 hate to sound stupid, but what is TfW?
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 rrright lol
@garytoner45632 жыл бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 transport for wales
@rearspeaker63642 жыл бұрын
@@garytoner4563 thank you!
@joelharris13358 жыл бұрын
since this clip was filmed, Scotrail is now owned by Obelio, Valley Lines is now owned by Arriva Trains Wales/ Trenau Arriva Cymru and Centro (apart of Central Trains) is now owned by London Midland.
@joelharris13358 жыл бұрын
also Wessex Trains is now owned by First Great Western and Railtrack is now Network rail
@mak47HDTrains7 жыл бұрын
Abellio*
@joelharris13357 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the spelling mistake mate.
@nothisispatrick57255 жыл бұрын
Joel Harris london northweastern railway now
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
also Midland Mainline is now part of East Midlands Trains. Arriva Trains Wales replaced both Wales and Borders Trains and Valley Lines (both of which were owned by National Express Group along with Wessex Trains and Central Trains), and Arriva Trains Wales / Trenau Arriva Cymru has recently been taken over by Transport for Wales / Trafnidiaeth Cymru. The Lynne Milligan in this video was still the customer services director of Arriva Trains Wales right up until its demise in late 2018! By the way London Midland wasn't a company "per se", it was a brand of Govia which is the company behind the Thameslink, Southern, Great Northern, Gatwick Express and Southeastern brands or "companies".
@TheArkamedBat3 жыл бұрын
Narrator was Paul Press Tyreman,aka Class 180 man
@bobbybrian92954 жыл бұрын
Good One Network Rail/Railtrack
@RWL20123 жыл бұрын
very late Railtrack. 2001 into 2002
@bobbybrian92953 жыл бұрын
@@RWL2012 Very likely to be Railtrack as they ceased in 2002 & National Express Scotrail ceased in 2004 & This film seems to be around early 2000s quality and the incident happend in 2001 so you would be right.
@WolfieRich14 жыл бұрын
Max did everything properly
@droge1923 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the only places semaphores belong in the 21st century is on heritage railways.
@None-zc5vg3 жыл бұрын
Agreed: they're easy to miss, even in daylight. One SPAD (that led immediately to a non-fatal collision) occurred on my local line when a driver moved away under a colour-light signal that was sited on a gantry high above his cab, just in front of the train. After this incident, a supplementary platform "OFF" signal was installed, along with catch-points and a sand-drag that hadn't been thought necessary when the money-saving single-lead track (replacing separate tracks) that had made the collision inevitable was installed. Maybe someone should make a closer study of signal-installations to see if their positioning and visibility should be improved for the drivers' benefit.
@cavespider66654 жыл бұрын
17:20 That's my uncle!
@MrTantrums0072 жыл бұрын
Flying Scotsman!
@ElliottHurst20 күн бұрын
This film looks around 2004, interesting to see them talking about ERTMS
@ElliottHurst20 күн бұрын
Railtrack mentioned, so prior to 2002!
@gazbakerscouse12 жыл бұрын
should not have been given ra by platform staff and guard should not have gicven clearance, rule book stuff
@hj-mr5gg9 жыл бұрын
Poor maxwell :(
@kyleJohn19972 жыл бұрын
4:22 is that the Man himself
@51WCDodge3 жыл бұрын
time Table is King, and when it goes wrong, the ones who made the descions aren't in the dock
@bernardtaylor77683 жыл бұрын
Not once through the whole video did the mention of rostered shifts come up
@nigelkthomas95014 жыл бұрын
It’s not very likely to happen to me. I don’t drive trains! But I wish I did.
@carmattvidz44262 жыл бұрын
Do other people have dreams nightmares about SPADs? I have the common dream/nightmare of been at work and I experience SPAD. I also have the other dream of people jumping in front of my train but that another story. I love this job but it the only job I've ever had that literally gives me nightmares.
@ryanmcquade61573 жыл бұрын
Any footage of the Newton train crash in 1991 ?
@rearspeaker63645 жыл бұрын
that woman at 9:05-9:52 makes me think SPADS are good!!
@DaveDVideoMaker3 жыл бұрын
Never go on the track unless you have to.
@nothisispatrick61805 жыл бұрын
150126 that went to great western and now its northern
@sadie777114 жыл бұрын
21:50-----"...I have fu up basically." :-D
@SprinterPlayz3 жыл бұрын
I can tell who that angry passenger was...I know it was an actor, but it's Paul Tyreman again... Scotrail, ONE Anglia, First Great Western and LOROL hired him for A LOT.
@NivvyLynxy Жыл бұрын
What about Repeater signals? Britain dosen't have those?
@hj-mr5gg9 жыл бұрын
Poor gordon :(
@marcuswells302010 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't be doing 50MPh beacause there's a bleeding 40MPh speed limit!
@RWL20125 жыл бұрын
@Po Lu it would appear not...
@nothisispatrick61805 жыл бұрын
Really feel sorry for that 2nd driver
@markpunt96383 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is just soooooooo scary
@win7sony11 жыл бұрын
The angry passanger is paul from fgw
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
he's an actor for SPA Films
@darrencafferty11 жыл бұрын
2004 I think
@iamlinxx_4 жыл бұрын
Poor Max he had incident after incident lol
@davidrobins10213 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that nowadays we don't have the technology to ensure that trains can't run red lights: automated/computer-controlled communication between the signalling system and the train hardware. Maybe in years to come we will (even driverless trains), or maybe in principle we do now, but cost is prohibitive.
@SgtChip3 жыл бұрын
In the UK they actually made a system known as TPWS, that pretty much does everything you said. It even brakes trains that are speeding, and will emergency brake trains that SPAD.
@tgm99913 жыл бұрын
@@SgtChip TPWS isn't to prevent SPADs through the train will usually still stop beyond the signal it's job is to reduce the consequences of a SPAD it should stop the train before it fouls a junction especially as some higher risk junctions hold two signals at danger, not just the one immediately prior. There are also 2 lines that have a proper train protection system that constantly monitors the speed of the train and calculates a speed curve to slow down for speed restrictions and red signals they were pilot programs that were supposed to be rolled out to the rest of the network but they cheaped out so that didn't happen and they rolled out TPWS instead. Now there's a slow rollout of ETCS Level 2 which is also an ATP system but more suited for the 21st century and will replace AWS and TPWS eventually but the pace of that is glacial.
@SgtChip3 жыл бұрын
@@tgm9991 Got it.
@MurasakiBunny8 жыл бұрын
0:20 ... and everyone died! Now I know SPADs are serious on the workplace, they do seem to overly dramatize it.
@Sarge927 жыл бұрын
i get that spads could lead to people getting killed and have resulted in so but why do they overhype them "the drivers recount something theyd much rather forget" then they proceed to re enact a spad where they wiggle a few feet past the light but nothing else happened kinda anti climatic i mean ok this one was a little more serious but what actually happenns after this cause the narator makes out that they have harrowing and traumatic expiriances just from going over the light by a verry small amount
@Tyrannosaurus_Wrexx7 жыл бұрын
Personally, when I had one (in the U.S., its just called "running a red signal"), I was in no danger. The grade crossing arms were down, the incoming train was holding at a red signal--waiting for me to exit the station and cross over. It's WAY over dramatized because there's ALWAYS a chance chance things could have gone haywire. The feeling sucks. You replay it in your head, wondering where you messed up. Then, all the retraining...kind of embarrassing. It's a dramatic to-do. Supervisors pull you off your train and send you home, after you do a write-up. Glad I only had one. I know some who've had three in a couple month's span.
@MatthewK4214 жыл бұрын
4:23 Is that Paul? If so, well, it always has to be him.
@RWL20124 жыл бұрын
of course it's Paul haha
@pigeonette4 жыл бұрын
Yup lol
@frostycola423 жыл бұрын
its scotrail but it has valley lines
@Daniil00118 жыл бұрын
What are those dings you can hear in National Rail and Overground trains? The ones that sound approximately every minute?
@darrencafferty8 жыл бұрын
its the aws or tpws safety system, when you pass a green signal a bell or a ding sounds, a yellow or red sounds a horn which has to be cancelled by pressing a button within 3 seconds or the brakes are applied
@Daniil00118 жыл бұрын
+darren cafferty Er, that's not quite what i meant. I was talking about the dings in the passenger area, not the cab. Anyway thanks for replying
@xaiano7947 жыл бұрын
possibly the bell/buzzer communication from guard to driver
@thomassimpson953 жыл бұрын
SPAD? Does that stand for ''Signal Passed At Danger''?