Crooked House: Heartbroken locals lament destruction of Britain's 'wonkiest pub'

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11 ай бұрын

More than 100 locals gathered near the rubble of the Crooked House in Dudley on Tuesday, 8 August, to lament the historic pub’s destruction.
The well-known 18th-century pub was extensively damaged by a fire on Saturday evening and was later demolished.
South Staffordshire Council is investigating potential breaches of the law over the total demolition of the pub.
A former landlord of the pub, Tom Catton, said his life would have been very different without the Crooked House.
“It means so much to us this place. This is where I met [my wife.] I proposed to her here," he said.
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@RogerC596 11 ай бұрын

Someone is responsible for this destruction...it is clearly no 'accident'. Look into the 'developers' activities in this.....something stinks of corruption and criminal activity.

@jayneholland1472 11 ай бұрын

It’s happening everywhere, so many pubs, shut, then sold, they can’t get the permits to turn them into flats, then ‘all of a sudden’ they burn down! It’s so obvious!! 🤦‍♀️😳😢

@Eleventhearlofmars 11 ай бұрын

No 💩. 😂

@Sssssssslf 11 ай бұрын

Something very fishy about how quick it was demolished 🤨

@Classiccarbscouk 11 ай бұрын

Yep

@Dave-xk5ed 11 ай бұрын

To hide the fact they torched the place

@lewishawkins1691 11 ай бұрын

Insurance Job

@Eleventhearlofmars 11 ай бұрын

No 💩. 🤔🤭

@statementleaver8095 11 ай бұрын

The second the Fire was extinguished the Fire department would've known........ Where and When and What Fuel was used🤔🤔

@leebryantravels 11 ай бұрын

You couldn't get anymore obvious as to what's happened and who did it. Absolutely disgraceful

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

To all My Muslim Brothers and Sisters: Shall we build a Mosque to replace that Pub?

@funkknuckle 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakovNo thanks.

@peterclarke7006 11 ай бұрын

@@Time-chooserit was bought days before the fire, and then it was demolished without permission. I'm guessing the new owner has absolutely no intention of turning it back into a pub. Luxury executive commuter apartments, on the other hand...

@Jonzybey 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakov build a jewish Sinigog or hindu temple lol

@markwidgery1922 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakov🥱If you're gonna be a troll you could have at least come u with something more original lamo.

@chrissavill8713 11 ай бұрын

Sounds a bit dodgy to me... why was the access road blocked to firefighters and why the super quick demolition? Firemen have to check the remains of building to ascertain the cause of the fire before anything can or should be done to the building (especially if it is listed) To do otherwise is a crime and the owners should be taken to court for it.

@dee2251 11 ай бұрын

It was being listed and they burned it down before it acquired listed status and within days of buying it.

@Eleventhearlofmars 11 ай бұрын

@@dee2251if that is true they should be made to rebuild it to the specs that it was and then grade II list it. The perps should also get jail and assets removed to pay for its rebuild.

@csb7376 11 ай бұрын

All planning permission for the site should be rejected. How in the world they thought they could do what they've done, and no fuss would be made is beyond me. Quite clearly arson for personal gain, but being able to prove it is a different matter.

@Mindsi 11 ай бұрын

But a lot of video😂😂😂😂😂😂

@rubiPo 11 ай бұрын

Literally happening in so many places at the moment all just to build new flats and destroy more culture

@blingking501 11 ай бұрын

Nowt will be done. This time next week will be a Tesco

@markmark63 11 ай бұрын

The investigators are saying it was arson.

@AAA19999 11 ай бұрын

Sounds dodgy, but commercially unviable ... be realistic

@user-yz2im9ix5k 11 ай бұрын

The developers will get their way. It's amazing what a cash bonus and new car can do to sway a council decision and planning permission.

@ChargerrentalCoandammo 11 ай бұрын

100% of councils are as crooked as the pub was

@leswelch4491 11 ай бұрын

Councils have always been crooked, even in the eighties you had to give an envelope stuffed with cash to get most planning through, noth will be done about the arson of the pub, probably gave an envelope to the police as well. Absolutely disgusting. 🤮🤮🤮🤮

@TheRealLagatha 11 ай бұрын

There’s little decency in this disgusting world.

@areyouserious3092 11 ай бұрын

The council is more crooked than the house.

@grindelston5968 11 ай бұрын

Lauderdale councils favourite scam is to make you pay never ending "bat surveys" til you've paid the required bung amount. shits been going on for years dunno why everyone's acting so suprised

@jonathanbell7752 11 ай бұрын

Staffordshire Council should take the land off the Developers and void their property licence.

@Dave-xk5ed 11 ай бұрын

But first, make them rebuild it brick by brick

@oddities-whatnot 11 ай бұрын

@@Dave-xk5edHave to employ non skilled workers to get it looking wonky again

@malcolmarmstrong210 11 ай бұрын

The council probably helped destroy it for a pay off no building no evidence the council planning office should be prosecuted

@forbiddenrecallskillinguss4012 11 ай бұрын

English heritage destroyed by foreigners.

@section5760 11 ай бұрын

@@oddities-whatnotthe dinghy ⛵️ divers. They do f..k all. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧👍🏼🍺

@bulldog1066jpd 11 ай бұрын

A crime has been committed here.

@Ridiculousman2nd 11 ай бұрын

Thankyou morse

@pennydunwell7005 11 ай бұрын

The new owner had the road blocked off so fire brigade could not stop the fire he should be made to put everything back as it was brick by brick

@sylviabaxter265 11 ай бұрын

@@pennydunwell7005I wouldn’t let him touch it,he will move on to the next😢when all the media interest has died down.

@wisteela 11 ай бұрын

He's just stating what we all know@@Ridiculousman2nd

@Ridiculousman2nd 11 ай бұрын

@@wisteela you mean the obvious

@GeoWizard 11 ай бұрын

Disgusting. Lock em up, rebuild it and protect it.

@JackMellor498 11 ай бұрын

Good to see you here, mate

@romeolarenzo3929 11 ай бұрын

Haha relax not the end of the world 😂😂😂

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

To all My Muslim Brothers and Sisters: Shall we build a Mosque to replace that Pub?

@slypanda3655 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakov and slowly try to take over the UK city by city town by town?

@baileyharrison1030 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakov Inshallah we will rebuild this pub brick-for-brick in Mecca

@davidellis279 11 ай бұрын

The question has to be asked,why were they so much in a hurry to demolish it ??? I’ll bet the bricks weren’t cold,someone was in a hurry to bury the evidence.

@johnwainwright6205 11 ай бұрын

Hi David, as I understand matters, the CH was in the process of being granted Grade ll listing, which would prevent demolition, therefore preventing the developers demolishing it, and they have wasted a fortune on a site they could not build on,.. Therefore by demolishing it before its Grade ll listing overcones that..👍

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

To all My Muslim Brothers and Sisters: Shall we build a Mosque to replace that Pub?

@eyesodd 11 ай бұрын

@@johnwainwright6205I question how it wasn't already listed, simply down to age and unique architectural merit.

@davidellis279 11 ай бұрын

@@johnwainwright6205 I think your absolutely correct and if this turns out to be true then prosecutions should follow,this looks more and more suspicious and any planning applications should be shelved until this is sorted out.

@johnwainwright6205 11 ай бұрын

@@eyesodd I would suggest that given the subsidence of the CH that the authorities would have thought it would crumble anyway and collapse.. Plus the lane and surroundings were a shithole anyway so..

@matthewdowning6009 11 ай бұрын

It’s amazing how many tricky or historic buildings spontaneously burst into flames when they come under new ownership then get knocked down before anyone can investigate. *Cough Gloucester docks *cough

@loco82 11 ай бұрын

This is the quickest building demolition I've ever seen after a building fire. This is blatantly for new building development 😡

@chrisw6283 11 ай бұрын

The fire was clearly highly suspicious, so the building should have been treated as a potential crime scene and as such the police should have been on site to guard any evidence as soon as the fire was out. But they weren’t. Apparently they were sent away due to ‘health and safety’ issues being around an ‘unsafe’ building. That allowed the excavator to move in and do its worst with no opposition from anyone. Something stinks here, from top to bottom.

@rocketmunkey1 11 ай бұрын

Well whoever decided to relieve the officers of their duty, of standing safely 100 yards away on the ridiculous grounds of health and safety, should be prosecuted for a clear cut case of Malfeasance !

@adienowed6366 11 ай бұрын

This whole incident stinks of malpractice and should be investigated to the full.

@Markdmarque 11 ай бұрын

Arson of this landmark is a CRIME and the owners should be investigated. It should be rebuilt in the same construction as the original building to make sure others don't see this as an easy option to get rid ofva historic building

@Ghosts1129 11 ай бұрын

Rebuilding something like that will be a difficult task, as I posted in another comment: There should be a law that if a building is destroyed that is protected, the land should be protected for at minimum of 10 years so profit cannot be made, therefore people will decide against such an action.

@michaelward2082 11 ай бұрын

Adam Taylor is the culprit

@davidellis279 11 ай бұрын

Someone authorised that demolition,that would be a good place to start,I wouldn’t mind betting it was all organised before the fire was even lit,nobody can organise machinery that quickly even for pound notes,someone paid the bill they don’t work for nothing.

@JOHNNY-zx1lc 11 ай бұрын

Tearing down our culture and heritage one brick at a time.

@JOHNNY-zx1lc 11 ай бұрын

@@Zeus-kr4fz what's so funny?

@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 11 ай бұрын

@@JOHNNY-zx1lcHe’s obviously a jealous little subhuman from outside of the continent…

@HamzahShoaib 11 ай бұрын

😂😂

@JOHNNY-zx1lc 11 ай бұрын

@@HamzahShoaib go and have a bacon sandwich 🤣

@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 11 ай бұрын

@@HamzahShoaib You have no idea what’s waiting for you just over the horizon. Here’s a clue; it’s definitely *not* mercy.

@joeconnolly89 11 ай бұрын

pub was bought by the farm next door that runs a land tip for rubbish and recycling plant

@paulday4237 11 ай бұрын

All permits revoked and made to rebiuld

@midnightmosesuk 11 ай бұрын

This has happened quite a few times where I live. An old pub closes, gets bought and then suddenly spontaneously combusts. Then, before the ashes even have time to settle, you suddenly end up with a new block of flats where the pub used to be. At the risk of sounding xenophobic, it's usually foreign property speculators involved in this shady business. They have no connection to the history or heritage of our country, why would they? It was just an old pub, it means nothing to them. They don't care about communities or local pride in a unique landmark. They only care about the bottom line and the land that pub stands on. It's just vandalism for profit.

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

To all my Muslim brothers and Sisters, Shall we build a mosque to replace that Pub? To replace Song with Qur’an and Dance with Prayer and Wine with Water.

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

Well considering the housing crisis isn’t that a good thing? If flats are being built in place of Pubs i mean. Something has got to give for more housing space

@cherylparker8025 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakovmosques are a waste of space turn them into housing units

@leopold7562 11 ай бұрын

To be fair though, most of the pubs this happens to are not very memorable, have been empty for ages and it’s so hard to get a “new” pub running at a profit that it usually ends up being converted to some other function, usually a local shop. Not that I’m complaining, we have precious few corner shops and too many derelict pubs, so doing something is better than nothing

@aliceinwonderland8314 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakovthe amount of housing isn't the issue, there are plenty of vacancies, the issue is the price. You can't live in a house that's unaffordable. Historically prices rise for a bit and then take a bit of crash in price. The longer the rise, the higher the price, the more devastating the crash. The current housing bubble's crash has been delayed for so long that: 1. Comparing average income to average accommodation costs to a few decades back the difference is concerningly expensive, affordable housing isn't really a thing anymore 2. When the bubble does inevitably burst it's going to take everything else with it

@maszlagma 11 ай бұрын

This is all very suspicious. Why did the remains need to be torn down so quick? Who was responsible for the "dirt" on the road that prevented the fire crews to be there in time? Is there going to be an inquiry/investigation to this?

@paulwilliams5013 11 ай бұрын

...dirt on the road...that sounds like there's a moronic farmer involved! (not that all farmers are moronic!)

@carmadme 11 ай бұрын

From what I gather pub had been closed for a little while before it was sold The earth bank was most likely placed there to stop gypsies occupying the site That said I don't know when the earth bank was placed there

@ChargerrentalCoandammo 11 ай бұрын

Nothing will happen people have been paid off

@sueharrison9392 11 ай бұрын

No build on this site should be agreed too

@googlecontrolled 11 ай бұрын

Funny how all these failing pubs across the country all seem to be catching fire according to insurance companies, pub fires gone up dramatically since covid 😮

@masnwrdl0511 11 ай бұрын

Because the UK is losing its culture, and we all know why .

@TheAntiTrope 11 ай бұрын

@@masnwrdl0511 or maybe because lockdowns lost _most_ small businesses, especially in the service industry over a year's worth of revenue and one way of recouping or cutting losses quickly is in the filing of dodgy insurance claims 😂

@jeffsuter344 11 ай бұрын

Oh look another "accidental" fire.

@davidellis279 11 ай бұрын

Something stinks about all this,the new owners should be made to rebuild it,it must have been insured somewhere,if not refuse planning permission for change of use so it’s either rebuilt or stays as it is.

@liamo8932 11 ай бұрын

The neighbour that bought it needs to go to jail imo. Even if he didn't burn it down, he had it demolished

@adrianrouse5148 11 ай бұрын

Such a shame. I first visited the crooked house nearly sixty years ago. I visited last year and told my grandkids all about it. A very sad day.

@homewithemma42 11 ай бұрын

Hold on to our culture Brits 🇬🇧🇬🇧 or it will go 🇬🇧🇬🇧

@HamzahShoaib 11 ай бұрын

You threw your culture out the window after ww1

@ChampChamp2024 11 ай бұрын

@@HamzahShoaib you know what’s up, only person with a knowledgeable comment.

@eddievanbasten1751 11 ай бұрын

It was arson, the person that bought it recently is involved. Proving it might be difficult.

@terrack 11 ай бұрын

It's just been confirmed as arson on the news...no surprise

@patpending8134 11 ай бұрын

The bloke in the background at 00:43 is my prime suspect!

@user-bu9nb8wr6e 11 ай бұрын

The development surrounding the pub should be stopped immediately.

@martinheath5947 11 ай бұрын

This is what property developers without links or attachment to a local area think they can do. First block fire engine access by dumping debris on the road leading to the property, then set the "non viable" building mysteriously on fire. Nice plot for a block of flats. Absolutely disgraceful

@prideofdurham4776 11 ай бұрын

Wonder if anyone got a bung for this? Whooops did I say that!

@avrilcrisp5725 11 ай бұрын

This the shabbier side of land purchase. I doubt it will be long before something 'beneficial to the community' will rear it's ugly new build head.

@jayneholland1472 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully the local council will take over and make flats that can be filled with chavs! Then they’ll be sorry!! 😂

@daveharvey8460 11 ай бұрын

They must be made to rebuild it!!!!

@iapetusmccool 11 ай бұрын

@@DenisEvans-gw4wx1) the pub is restored. 2) punishment for the people who destroyed it. 3) deterrent for anyone contemplating similar destruction.

@darrenthompson5954 11 ай бұрын

It's happening everywhere these days. people by the property and land normally leave it at least a year then get someone to burn it down. Had 3 pubs done over our area all listed buildings they would wait a year or two then burn it down so it don't look so on top. I think this builder couldn't even wait a few years...needs a good investigation and made an example of... We are losing to many old listed buildings due to greedy corrupt individuals..

@billienomates1606 11 ай бұрын

vid of the pub a while ago, before dodgey stuff happened in my opinion. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrOnY6ZkrcyWpH0.html From the chain of events that happened. From a planning application going in to redevelop the site, to the blocking of the access road, to the fire and then being knocked down with heavy equipment. Smells very stinky in my opinion. I just hope a proper investigation is done as to how this all came about and also the planning department should only allow permission for the original building to be put back up. Oh, I forgot all this happened just after some residents contacted the local planning office to request the house was given listed status!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@evolassunglasses4673 11 ай бұрын

Tradition is being destroyed.

@JTjunkie 11 ай бұрын

Alcoholic tradition

@bilbo7115 11 ай бұрын

@@JTjunkie not a drinker myself but let ppl enjoy and keep their fave places to socialize.

@ryanparker4996 11 ай бұрын

@@JTjunkiemost of the things you love were invented in a pub.

@crustyzimmerman3324 11 ай бұрын

Someone will wait until the new owner has developed the site and then go along and burn it down 😂😂😂 Irony can be a cruel bitch…

@johnweaver66 11 ай бұрын

What a convenient fire for the owner's of the pub.

@jerome8670 11 ай бұрын

That is sad!! I worked here some time ago and it was such a awesome place to be! 😖 This whole civilisation is going down the pan … they want us all to stay in and face time 😩

@Ghosts1129 11 ай бұрын

It's not someone wanted you to stay in, it's someone who wants to make profit. If a new bunch of houses appear, the company that built them will be the ones who make the profit. The question to be asking is will the government endorse the company or outright refuse due to the blatant destruction of something that should not have been destroyed. I have no opinion of the pub, never heard of it, but it is disappointing to see a structure that gave a location something unique to be taken down.

@jerome8670 11 ай бұрын

@@Ghosts1129 yeah quite! But having been and actually done some work at the pub 10 so years ago … it was a great place to eat and has a bit of a rural field or pond at the back! So a great quirky place to take family or friends! Profiteering is a thing but I’m addressing the pub scene … or the lack of it as it used to be a great place to meet with friends but slowly through out the uk they are all closing or “burning down” conveniently for a new housing estate 😩 I hope they or some one builds a similar pub in memory of this place as it was super disorienting to even walk through 😅

@paulday4237 11 ай бұрын

This country is a disgrace , when the owners of who has bought it , then the owners of who own them is named people can come to there own decisions

@davidmccarthy6053 11 ай бұрын

This is a terrorists attack on a British heritage site, those responsible must be severely punished whoever they are.

@CastrolHondaSP2 11 ай бұрын

@@DenisEvans-gw4wxit's only our heritage. Moron.

@maalikserebryakov 11 ай бұрын

@@DenisEvans-gw4wxgammon now has to drive a few extra metres for a beer the end is nigh

@ATG848 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakov I'm sure you wouldn't be so indifferent if it was some kind of historical islamic institute suspectedly burned down for an insurance scam.

@ryanparker4996 11 ай бұрын

@@maalikserebryakovAtleast he can drive without ditching his financed german car into oncoming traffic

@josefschiltz2192 11 ай бұрын

Considering something very similar happened in our own village with a rectory in 1953, a fire that destroyed and left a charred relic of a grand house that was built in the 1700s whilst the fire appliances were still bunged with mud after pumping out premises in the aftermath of the Suffolk floods. Film of which exists. The owner - 'occupier' - who had not been there very long said to my grandmother, "Oh, you didn't know we were away?" She had actually gone up to the rectory, a woman in her seventies in her dressing gown, being late at night, and the flames were coming out of the attic bedrooms where the servants used to sleep. The place was full of wood panelling. Interestingly, there had been a small fire in the stable block just a few weeks before. People were assured that the rectory would be rebuilt. What replaced it was a bungalow building which eventually housed the offices of an industrial supplies company and the surrounding grounds were turned into into lorry parking, workshops and storage areas. Some rebuilding!

@jeffreybarton1297 11 ай бұрын

People should destroy and burn down any future property on that site until the perpetrator of the fire is in prison. Not sure about rebuilding it. It would feel too fake, probably. The people who did this need imprisoning!

@johnje4285 11 ай бұрын

The current owner should be made to rebuild it exactly how it was. All other planning permission should be refused.

@Allegedly2right 11 ай бұрын

Follow the money it’s that simple who dumped the rubble find him that’s a start let me guess who’s caravan he is hiding in it ain’t Butlins maybe

@robertleem5643 11 ай бұрын

If it was deliberate they should be prosecuted and fined, a statement should be made to say that this type of behaviour won't be accepted

@suburbia2050 11 ай бұрын

If? Lol

@paulday4237 11 ай бұрын

STINKS OF FOUL PLAY THIS WON,T GO AWAY

@sazmullium 11 ай бұрын

‘Suddenly it was on fire’ no suddenly about it. It was set by the developers. Happened around my area with a single old gate house in the woods. It was listed so couldn’t be touched by the developer that had purchased it and the land behind it to build on… all of a sudden it’s lit on fire and they deduced it was arson and the developer blamed ‘local kids’ even though we went no where near it.

@Iggy4470 11 ай бұрын

Is it a coincident they own the sites adjacent on both side then this historic building burns down and gets demolished. mmmmhh strange that. If i were the Council I would make them rebuild it, they had no authority to knock it down and surly would have been insured.

@rayboish 11 ай бұрын

Someone said this is suspicious !! Its not suspicious at all !! ITS OBVIOUS WHAT IS GOING ON !!

@Sarah-il4fs 11 ай бұрын

How very sad. I went there with my late husband . Happy memories.

@boojon2 11 ай бұрын

quite clearly an act of arson from the new private buyer, whoever it is should be charged with the crime and forced to pay EVERYTHING from clean up and to rebuild the pub.

@waifuracer6516 11 ай бұрын

Its funny how everytime a big company wants to buy a building that has a pub in it and the owner refuses, it magically catches on fire and burns down and then it gets demolished claiming the fire made it unsafe... and then the big company comes in and buys it. Magical

@MrMagsimus 11 ай бұрын

This was a beautiful place , I’m in my fifties and have been visiting since I was in my 20s .. still remember driving the right lane in my Ford capri as a teenager, loved the place .. this is treason of the highest calibre 😢

@forbiddenrecallskillinguss4012 11 ай бұрын

English heritage levelled by foreigners.

@janicetaylor7516 11 ай бұрын

There will be nothing left for us Brits soon; we are being slowly stripped of everything we hold dear.

@leopold7562 11 ай бұрын

We clearly don’t hold pubs very dear, though. In the six mile stretch between my house and the nearest big town, I pass 14 pubs. 10 of them are boarded up. Well, nine now, one is being converted after being busted as a weed farm. This is happening all over the country and nobody gives enough of a crap to stop it. We’re all too busy supping our supermarket bought booze and watching the telly…

@jothing3523 11 ай бұрын

@@leopold7562people can't afford to drink in pubs anymore since the gas and electric supplies decided to make record profits out of us

@stevehay2293 11 ай бұрын

Criminal !

@johncollins3391 11 ай бұрын

Crooked, quite apt when you think about it.

@Mindsi 11 ай бұрын

The crooked, crooked house, great idea for a film script. I like this idea, maybe about the house over the years and then the crooks involved😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@wmurray689 11 ай бұрын

This stinks to high heaven. The locals should start an investigation themselves if the establishment won't.

@REDLION0044 11 ай бұрын

This developer needs to be forensically investigated, bet there are plenty of skeletons to be found.

@richardmattocks 11 ай бұрын

So sad. I went there as a special treat with my parents as a kid. An amazing place. It will be missed 😢

@faithlesshound5621 11 ай бұрын

It's quite common for old buildings owned by developers to burn down before they are demolished, especially if there is some kind of preservation order on them that would have prevented major works or demolition.

@ChameleonAudio 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely disgusting and criminal, people need to be brought to justice over this!

@malcolmclements9254 11 ай бұрын

I went once in 1977 and it was weird all jiggly wiggly there wasn't a straight step in the place, it played with your mind. Very sad to hear the news.

@Mrblazed420 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully they get made to build it back the way it wasif its even possible

@tori3030 11 ай бұрын

Sad times hpww the uk is changing times .very suspicious

@SRD-vx9oh 11 ай бұрын

Bloody disgusting......these people should be jailed.......

@padiedo7213 11 ай бұрын

WONDER WHAT HAPPENED 😯😯 !!?? VERY🐟🐟🐟🐟

@354sd 11 ай бұрын

Who bought it off Marston's

@corsair919 11 ай бұрын

Good question.

@localbod 11 ай бұрын

I believe Ate Farms Ltd, which is a property developer. The MD of that business seems to be connected to a company that owns a quarry next to where the pub stood.

@joeconnolly89 11 ай бұрын

the farm next door bought it

@corsair919 11 ай бұрын

@@localbod Thanks.

@corsair919 11 ай бұрын

@@joeconnolly89 Thanks.

@aubreyheartburn 11 ай бұрын

That's awful 😭

@ibidi9710 11 ай бұрын

Just like Windsor Castle, simple insurance fraud jail the arsonist.

@eturfrey 11 ай бұрын

Reject any planning application, unless of course you are a bent councillor who takes a back hander.

@EthanKnight97 11 ай бұрын

The scumbag who committed this act of cultural destruction must be made to pay.

@michaeljohnson1006 11 ай бұрын

It's about time they started listing pubs before they are all gone like the thatched cottages I'm surprised the local authority planning department had not listed it! ...They could have easily saved the shell no doubt planning for apartments or houses. I suppose they would have struggled to convert it into flats with it being wonky. A similar thing happened where I live they knocked an old pub down to build an industrial unit despite a big petition.

@TheJon2442 11 ай бұрын

I am shocked that the Independent is actually reporting some factually correct news!!!!! Wonder's will never cease!!!!!!!!

@pamills66 11 ай бұрын

In total 8,964 pubs have achieved listed building status in England over the years with the first being the Cheshire Cat in Nantwich in 1948. The travesty is this pub was not protected by law and should be a warning to other pubs. Legally new owners will get away with it as they are legally the new owners but morality this act is pure evil.

@eyesodd 11 ай бұрын

Hopefully it'll be like the Carlton Tavern in Maida Vale, rebuilt brick by brick at cost to the developer. That was two days away from being recommended listed status by Heritage England.

@ChampChamp2024 11 ай бұрын

@@eyesoddwhat will happen though? You think they’ll rebuild it.

@eyesodd 11 ай бұрын

@@ChampChamp2024 I've no idea, usually the developer gets a slap on the wrist and a fine, probably the cost of one of the many flats they'll flog off. I'm suprised it didn't have listed status already due to the age and the unique lean.

@ChampChamp2024 11 ай бұрын

@@eyesodd yeah people have found massive loop holes in the system, and are abusing it and governments sit back and watch.

@Eleventhearlofmars 11 ай бұрын

@@eyesoddI don’t think with the publicity this is getting that the perpetrators will be only getting a slap on the wrist, I think people will want to see justice being done on this case. I think this place will be rebuilt and given it’s graded status and all at the perpetrators expense.

@davelawton2135 11 ай бұрын

Same thing happened to the Elephant an Castle about 30 years ago, they demolished it on a Sunday night

@bonecruncher2641 11 ай бұрын

Hmmm insurance???

@stephenskinner3851 11 ай бұрын

Deport the perpetrators. Confiscate all their properties.

@mtvoss7595 11 ай бұрын

It’s found to be arson this morning. But they do no time for that just a slap on the wrist. This country has gone to the dogs, in every way. I’m saddened by how this country is failing the decent citizens of this country. The ones to blame the government parties of the last thirty years , courts and now the police. RIP GB IT WAS NICE KNOWING YOU🙏🏻

@wisteela 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely disgusting what's happened. Really wanted to visit this place at some point.

@lynnejones862 11 ай бұрын

Jesus - you have just wiped out so many memories of my family

@evgeniam685 11 ай бұрын

your memories always with you. Its just place that has gone

@iapetusmccool 11 ай бұрын

@@evgeniam685memories can fade without a physical reminder.

@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob 11 ай бұрын

How did we let developers get so powerful - this isn't Sicily.

@karenjadiesteinhards 11 ай бұрын

This is horribly sad !! Investigation is warranted .😢

@ViGo53 11 ай бұрын

Must admit I visited the Crooked House when I was a young man, never returned. I just couldn't cope with how you would see an item roll uphill. Made me feel very unwell. But after having said that, what an iconic drinking hole, Bank's too.😢

@bluewinterwolf 11 ай бұрын

This destruction was done on purpose to bypass legality and public protest against the destruction of this beautiful and awesone building. Not only was this planned, but it was allowed by local authorities and i bet someone or several people had been paid off for this to happen.

@aubreyheartburn 11 ай бұрын

Newly built flats for immigrants anyone?.....

@terrack 11 ай бұрын

A hotel most probably.

@yamyam3407 11 ай бұрын

Popped there a couple of weeks ago and heard it was being sold for different business interests then all of a sudden burnt down 🤔

@rickjensen2717 11 ай бұрын

'Developers' should be forced to rebuild it as it was!

@version736ha2 11 ай бұрын

Deliberate fire, deliberate obstruction of fire engine, deliberate insurance job. Let's see how far the authorities probe this one

@OriginalRaveParty 11 ай бұрын

Deny planning permission and have the land publicly requisitioned and turned into a local attraction or auctioned off to the highest bidder.

@Lee883 11 ай бұрын

Development scam. From working in the pub industry any time a developer buys a pub and has planning refused there is an electrical fire. See it happen all the time. 2 in my little town and 6 if you include neighbouring villages since 2021. Look how many pub fires happened when pubs went bust in 2008 too, developers bought the pubs at bargain basement prices, then burnt them down after the first plans were rejected. There's a shocking amount of rejected planning decisions followed by electrical fires.

@XenonJohnD 11 ай бұрын

A few listed and soon to be listed hotels with sea views in Swansea mysteriously burned down in the 80's and 90's. Expensive luxury flats now. There will be a respectful interval of time until people forget and then planning permission will be granted. Nothing will ever be proved regarding the cause of the fire. Surely it is absolutely not OK to immediately demolish a potential crime scene though?

@AkAust1 11 ай бұрын

I've known about the pub for years, and for years I always wanted to come and see the place one day. Absolute scumbags, Grade A Tossers, I hope they never get to feel the cold side of a pillow again.

@AkAust1 11 ай бұрын

@@assses-3216 Damn straight

@steveperryman8102 11 ай бұрын

Apparently this pub had subsided a lot due to mining. That said it cannot possibly be considered a rebuild project?

@49cchris 11 ай бұрын

Everything great in Great Britain gets wrecked, that man said to get it rebuilt knowing this country they make its level 😳 & just won't feel the same...

@darksun4523 11 ай бұрын

It's so obvious! Full investigation into the owners, Their phones and emails. They should bebuild and have to sell it for what they bought it for.

@paulken1919 11 ай бұрын

Developer buys a listed building that you cant demolish, and days later it burns down. Happens every week. How stupid are the police. Literally everyone knows what went on.

@random6809 11 ай бұрын

It wasn't a listed building.

@julianjules6698 11 ай бұрын

The sad demise and destruction of the Crooked House appears to have been sadly planned with military precision. A first class operation, really, but an uncountable loss to area, local people and visitors.