Thanks! I’m glad I’m not alone in getting an out of spec breech from Baker. This was the first breech I ever installed on a 22xx style gun with my Drifter and it was so frustrating! I was thinking this is way more complicated than I ever anticipated and it took me a bit to figure out it wasn’t me, but the dang holes weren’t lining up properly. I then contacted Baker and they sent me a different transfer port and replacement screw (the threads got ruined on my stock screw). I was able to get the breech installed after that but I noticed my Drifter than leaked oil out around the transfer port. In any case had I known then what I know now I’d have insisted on a replacement breech or a refund. Baker mentioned egging out the holes back then and I thought then as I do now that I shouldn’t have to do that on a brand new part. But I’m stuck with it now so it’s useless junk unless I drill and/or egg out the holes. The other thing I noticed was that the dove tail is slightly wider on the Baker breech than the Crosman steel breech. A GravMag won’t fit on the Baker breech. Thanks for the info on the Chinese breech and machine wax.👍

It’d be interesting to see what you find! When I watched my video on my TV I noticed my editing while measuring the aluminum breech transfer port wasn’t the best. I did better showing the measuring on the plastic breech.

Me bwoi

Good deal! Glad I could help. 👍

Huh! That’s interesting, I think I can check that as I’ve got the stock barrels lying around and plan to order another Crosman steel breech. I’d read about guys getting extended probes but didn’t understand why.

Yeah, I wondered about that before I even got the breech. I don't know why Crosman makes it like that. I was really impressed that yours was doing about 670 to 680 at 8 pumps, maybe the probe on yours is longer.

To check it, just have the breech by itself with the barrel mounted in it as it would be fully assembled. Then you can just load in a pellet and look directly at the port

I’ve got Crosman steel breeches on 3 different guns, two .22 cal and one .177 and all have hang ups when feeding pellets. Domed pellets feed the most smoothly and you can work around the trait but it’s unfortunate that Crosman hasn’t improved the design to remedy the issue. I really like the steel breech, just have to be aware of the hang up to avoid damaging pellets during chambering.

I’ve got a Buck Rail silencer that’ll fit but the only gun I’ve felt needed it is my Maximus. That PCP is loud!

@@airgunsofalaska i life middle in the city so i need it 👍😉

@@Relaxbadkneeadventures totally understand that. 👍

I like the idea of Elmers glue. It wouldn’t be messy and would just pop right back out if I needed to get at the breech screw.

Interesting! I didn’t realize that there was a long and short Crosman steel breech. I really like the longer bolt handle, I believe I ordered mine from someone off eBay? CO2 guns don’t work that great for me. They start freezing up, even in the summer, if you shoot them too fast. I don’t tend to buy or shoot CO2 guns very often just for those reasons. Plus I don’t like having to buy CO2. I went through a phase a bought a few 6 round burst guns and converted one to full auto. It froze up really fast and I was thinking about a way I could heat the powerlets but never tried anything. I also discovered the full auto novelty quickly wore off. That kind of surprised me but that’s good, it just saved me money. 🤣

I wasn’t aware of that breech until a couple months ago. It’s not a direct bolt on to convert to it as you need to drill and tap the pump tube. My understanding is Crosman doesn’t manufacture their guns except for a CO2 model and the 100 yr anniversary with the breech screw hole in the different location. I saw one of the aftermarket airgun vendors selling a pump tube with the hole drilled and tapped. I believe that “hidden” screw breech is made for a 2240 model? It’s too bad they don’t offer it in all their guns. Probably something to do with manufacturing when they went to the plastic breech in the 80’s which feeds pellets no issues.

Am I understanding correctly that you removed the handle from the stock 362 plastic breech and then installed that probe into the Crosman steel breech?

Solid brass, wow! Who makes that style of breech?

@@airgunsofalaska I found it on eBay , unknown if it is still available ? I believe around 45.00 ? Under Crosman parts .

@joedokes8641 interesting! Thanks for the additional info 👍

@@airgunsofalaska Anytime .

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Dang! That’s in Euros?

@@airgunsofalaska right. I feel for Marky all the time.

The Baker aluminum breech is very similar in appearance to the Crosman steel breech. Its dovetail is slightly wider than the Crosman breech. I found out the hard way as the GravMag wouldn’t fit on the Baker breech.

I researched the hidden screw style and it seems like a guy could drill and tap a new hole in the pump tube to use one? I’m not sure I want to take that on though. I’ll never buy another Baker breech again. I wish I’d known then what I know now. I’d have insisted on a replacement or a refund. It’s BS that a guy has to drill or file out the holes to get it to fit properly. I’m likely going to egg out the holes so I can fit it onto my Drifter. Otherwise it’s just a $50 useless piece of junk banging around in my airgun toolbox. I really like all of the customization a guy can do with these style guns by mixing and matching stock Crosman parts. So fun to think about the possibilities! 😄

I’ve only installed three Crosman steel breeches so an insignificant sample group but they all set right on top of the pump tube, no issues. They all lined up beautifully. I’m guessing you likely installed the transfer port fitting upside down so it’s not getting a good seal. The long side goes to the bottom of the barrel. Also check that the rubber seal in the pump tube isn’t torn or damaged and that it is properly seated in its hole. There is no o-ring or seal that fits between the hole in the barrel and the transfer port fitting. Let me know if that fixes your leak? 😀👍

​@@airgunsofalaskaI definitely need to get at it soon or later! Haha I might practice on my 2240 with the breech & barrel that Buck Rail sent me just because I will see the results instead of just feeling them haha I really wonder if the leak is from the transfer port or the hole that they drill im the back of canadian 1377 valves tho.. (1322 was not detuned until Crosman changed the boxes... Lets see what happens now.) It is hard to see exactly where the air comes from I guess I could try to test more in depth with flour or somethin'

That’s a good idea 👍

This new one was built in January of ‘24 and has been more solid and better put together than my first one from May ‘22. It pumps just as easily as my first one so that eases my concerns that my first 362 was getting worn. One difference that really stood out yesterday was how good the trigger got on my first 362 with use. It feels more crisp and lighter than the new gun. I debated doing this video as I’m not out to purposely bash products but this aluminum breech didn’t work worth a shit on my 362. Even without a chrony a guy would’ve sensed something wasn’t right as the gun sounded louder and air was hitting me in the face. The chrony confirmed the loss of velocity. Plus I already had experience with the Drifter transfer port leaking oil so I was able to figure out the issue really quickly. I won’t be buying another aluminum breech from Baker ever again.

@@airgunsofalaska Nothing wrong with calling out products you paid for that are 100% made wrong, it's not even opinion cus you proved it. And it's good to see Crosman cares enough to keep updating existing products that's a great sign from them!

@@yoitired Thanks! I watch other YT Airgun channels and they are always so nice and gloss over issues. I guess the difference is, when you get the stuff for free it’s easy to always look positive. Trying to fit that garbage breech to my 362 brought back all the frustration I felt before so I decided to make a video. Had they just offered to exchange or refund me my money that would have been totally acceptable. So far so good, no issues to report with the new 362. 😀

​@@airgunsofalaskaIt can't be fun having to report the bad, but if no one does it the bad actors will do way more damage to the sport, I'd rather the good businesses get their toes stepped on now and then if it means keeping outright scammers away👍Pellet sorting that does sound like a dangerous rabbit hole lol, the closest I get is throwing out bent skirts, or like yesterday when I dropped CPHPs into my pocket for Crosman Domeds😄How would that work, measure head and skirt diameters, weigh them and try to group similar ones?

@@yoitired I agree, I just sometimes get tired of responding to snarky or rude comments from fanboys of whatever gun I didn’t have a good experience with. I now understand why most channels only report the good and don’t say anything about the bad. There is an AOA video on pellet sorting that was really good. I’m thinking of starting off with weighing a tin of pellets as a jewelry scale isn’t very expensive. It’d be interesting to see how much difference it makes.

Thanks for the great info! 😀👍

@@airgunsofalaska enjoy your channel and everything you do. We have a lot of the same airguns! ✌️😊

@@gwhitfield4239 Right on! 👍