Do you let others ride your bike?︱Cross Training Enduro

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10 ай бұрын

www.crosstrainingenduro.com tractionerag.com Do you let other riders ride your motorbike? There was a long discussion about this on an enduro forum, with a huge variety of answers. Into hard enduro riding? See all our dirt bike videos for dirt riding tips. Our channel now had hundreds of dirt bike videos covering reviews, and enduro riding techniques. On one side, there were extreme enduro riders who said 'No one touches my motorbike!' This included sexual partners, friends and their dog. The other extreme? Riders who would let anyone ride their motorbike... aliens, primates, even random guys they met on the trail. Search our channel for dirt riding gear too. Our dirt riding tips also include wider topics such as the best dirt riding boots. And of course there was a pile of different opinions between these extremes. There are plenty of them around! Me? I always let friends ride my motorbikes. A stranger? No. I want to ride with them for at least 30 minutes and see what sort of rider they are. Then maybe we will swap motorbikes. What do you think about letting others ride your motorbike? Do you ever lend your motorbike to friends? Let us know in the comments! And now I'll leave you with a few minutes of enduro FM. Some riders have no issues with their friends riding their motorbike. Other riders said they would let a stranger ride their motorbike if they understood the rules.... you break it, you fix it! This is where it gets interesting. In one situation, a rider lets a friend ride his RR480 but tells him not to do any wheelies. The friend does a wheelie, crashes, and causes $1000 in damages. But he has no money so he just says "Bad luck" to the owner. Don't assume a friend will automatically pay for any damages. A very good friend asked me if she could borrow my DR650. I said "No problem. But you will need to pay for the insurance excess if you crash". She looked offended and declined my offer. It's always a good idea to ensure anyone riding your motorbike understands the principle.... you break it, you fix it! Some people assume a friendship means you will take care of their mistakes. Just ask if you want to be a 'boy racer' on someone else's machine. I think this is just good riding etiquette. It reminds me of an old story. This guys comes up to me and starts asking questions about my DR650. After a few minutes he suddenly gets on the DR. I immediately say "Get off my motorbike". He looked puzzled and asked why. I said "You don't get on my motorbike without asking first". He laughed and dismounted. But he leaves the DR650 in a slightly different position and it falls over. He isn't worried at all and thought it was amusing. What a dickhead. The situation becomes more interesting if a friend borrows your motorbike. What happens if it is returned with a seized engine? Was it due to riding on the 'rev limiter' all day? Or was there already a problem with the engine? Who pays for the repairs? Both of you? Hopefully this never happens. But I think it's a good idea to discuss these scenarios. It would be a shame to wreck a friendship because you both had very different ideas. If you borrow someone's motorbike and want to ride it aggressively, maybe check with the owner first! I can remember a guy asking to ride a friend's KTM 300 then we could hear him riding full throttle into the distance for about 10 minutes. The owner was into slow technical riding and I could see the pain on his face... his beloved baby was being thrashed. A lot of owners wouldn't care. Some do.
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@dougwelch6446 9 ай бұрын

Big difference between " let someone ride your bike" and " loan your bike". I have no problem letting folks ride my bikes, that means i get to ride theirs. I often learn to like other bikes or set ups that way. But i dont lone my bikes to anyone !

@wicko2363 10 ай бұрын

I have always used the phrase “you break it, you own it” , only with friends of course, because you already know how they treat there own machinery.

@SeparadoresAtecon 10 ай бұрын

My dirt bike is like My wife, no lending whatsoever 😂😂

@GasGasBros 10 ай бұрын

I let my brother race a harescramble on my 2 week old GASGAS EC300 because his bike was waiting a backordered part. He is a superior rider, and if I hadn't seen the gopro footage, I'd never have known that he crashed it!! Figured if something did break, I'd just take the part off his bike and he could order himself a new one haha

@mototrailz 10 ай бұрын

From the moment you've decided to let your friend try your bike the burden is on you. I did it sometimes with good friends that were extremely good riders but one of them found a soft patch of sand in the dunes (morocco), nothing he could do and flip my bike forward and it landed literally upside down wheels still spinning. Scratches on the GPS, plastic cracked and one bend lever...he right away ask to pay for it but meanwhile my trip was going to be different since the bike is not the same anymore (something to consider when you are on a trip), no big deal but still. Anyway i never accepted his offer and fixed my bike when i got home. My decision my problem. However i rarely do that anymore and frankly i never ask for a friend's bike...regular riders know this better than anyone, you just do it because of the consequences, period.

@haydenwilliams1750 10 ай бұрын

I'm happy for my mates to take the DR200 or CT110 out with me for a day of trail riding. A few people have had their first ride on those, what's a few broken levers amongst mates. My other bikes, I care a lot more about those and it would have to be the right mate. The sorta guys that have to give it 110% and ride like it's an MX race can ride their own bikes IMO.

@oblivianation9759 10 ай бұрын

I really miss my pressure washer. Thanks for the reminder.

@MalHanson 10 ай бұрын

A friend crashed my TZ350 at about 230k/ph. Due to a worn/hard carb boot it spat a carb off when braking at the end of the back straight for the sweeper of our local track, and it seized. It was a truly spectacular crash, with bits flying everywhere. The wheels were still in line, but the fairing, fuel tank & seat were gone, and the subframe bent. He spent a few nights in hospital, and is about centimeter shorter as a result, but was otherwise OK and is to this day. If it didn't happen to him, it would have happened to me, so I'm quite happy I was sitting in the stands watching it happen!

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Glad he survived. Any offer to share the expenses, Mal? That is a tricky one given it was going to happen anyway...

@MalHanson 10 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro The offer was made, but he was quite poor. Given it was a race bike I had a fairly extensive spares kit, so it went back together quickly. At the end of the day it was just a machine - a philosophy I still hold today. People I know and that I know can ride are welcome to use my current bikes, a Himalayan & Beta Evo, so they're not expensive or overly fragile.

@mikeob6410 10 ай бұрын

I bought a 1995 DR350S in awesome shape for $1500. That is the "Buddy" bike. A select few friends/relatives are welcome to ride my Beta's. I went on a road ride a few weeks ago. My cousin let me ride his band new Husky 901 Norden Adventure. We rode 200 miles of Northern California mountain roads. It was really nice. And I was super careful to not abuse or damage his new bike. And the expectation is "you break it, you fix it'.

@steveryan6058 10 ай бұрын

i have swapped bikes with riders who are considering purchasing .....switching bikes helps me too sometimes it teaches me about setup or gives me info about my next bike. I recently was impressed with a ktm 125xc, a bike I would not have considered. The 125 rider loved my 250rx as well.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Occasionally I've offered to do a bike swap with a guy we've met in the forest if my gut instinct suggests he'll be okay and he's not going to go hard at it. I agree, it is a great way to see what other bikes and setups are like.

@middleageddirtscooter7883 10 ай бұрын

I have 2 friends i let ride my bike. Both are bike mechanics and understand the " you break it you fix it " rule.

@__kvik 6 ай бұрын

I've had quite a few bad experiences of letting friends and acquaintances ride my bike, then crashing and breaking shit (and not paying up) or, somehow way worse in my eyes, trashing the bike around as if they found it on the side of a road, doing wheelies and speed runs on asphalt with knobbies etc., all with that mind-bogglingly clueless attitude that pisses me off to no end. Despite that, I'll still let pretty much anyone ride my bike if I can hope to expect just a bit of respect from them, even just an honest "sorry".

@ogasi1798 10 ай бұрын

me and me alone, outside of injury that makes me unable to move of course

@pegmonkey 8 ай бұрын

Friends can ride my dirt bikes. Strangers can ride them if we swap bikes and I've ridden with them first to assess their skill and care level. I've only let two other people ride my RC51. For the RC, it's mint and vintage and the two I let ride it were willing and capable of fixing it if they damaged it. They were highly skilled riders. Plus, with the RC the amount of speed and power will easily kill the unprepared rider.

@mrpmackon 9 ай бұрын

Never lend and never borrow.

@Branhamjeffd 10 ай бұрын

I’ll swap bikes for a few trails or a day maybe with a buddy. But I’d not let a stranger ride it or loan it out.

@ARDrummer 10 ай бұрын

Nice upload. Can be a tricky situation for sure

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Very!

@davehowe_just_an_old_dirtbiker 10 ай бұрын

I have no problem letting close friends riding my bike. Never a random acquaintance though. All my friends ride with the same aggression (or lack of) as me so I'm fine. One of my buddies will let any random person ride his bike...even race them. Of course has currently has 8 bikes in his garage! I'm looking forward to riding his Stark Varg when it comes in. I'm getting a 2024 300RR next week and plan on keeping my 2017 300RR so I have a spare bike for friends. It will mostly be my son who currently has a CRF450 that is not so fun in the woods. Looking forward to some good woods riding with him like we used to do 30 years ago!

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Same here, Dave. A friend has a Stark coming in November apparently. Can't wait to try it!

@sarahdell4042 6 ай бұрын

Between my circle of friends were always swapping bikes with each other. That way we all have seat time on different makes & models. Not really concerned with something breaking as we all drop and abuse our bikes riding pretty tough singletrack.

@RodNeufeld 10 ай бұрын

I let friends and family ride my bikes. Which bike they get to ride is dependant on their skill level, I am not interested in seeing them hurt or my bike damaged because it is too much for them.

@cedricboivin9422 10 ай бұрын

Personally, it depends on which type of object we are talking about (I am broadening the scope a little) If it's my beat-up wr250r, sure try it. You won't do anything that I have not done without hurting yourself (and after that point the bike does not matter) If it is my car that can REALLY EASILY be shifted in a wrong gear, you're gonna have to prove yourself first

@mattschwensen9562 10 ай бұрын

You bend it you mend it ! No excuses I only lend my bike to people I trust so if the engine lets ho on them I know it would of let go on me. But in the case where it does happen you should offer your labour to repair it if you can. When I was a younger man I raced MX and have had this happen to me and seen it happen to others

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

It's one reason I won't rev someone else's bike hard. If I'm full throttle and it seizes, then there was obviously an existing problem but I've brought it on. But if I'm at low to midrange revs then it was going to happen regardless.

@mattschwensen9562 10 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro agree 100% as a decent person you should always respect other people’s property. When it happened to me I leant my bike at a race meeting to a guy who was obviously riding full throttle. Just as I was would of been in my next race. So I knew what I was getting myself into.

@user-tf1oo9rj6u 9 ай бұрын

I lend my bikes frequently *with the clear understanding **_stated,_** not assumed.* But I am also very reluctant to ride most other peoples bikes, because I am always worried about accidentally damaging it and the repair just won't be the same as it was. I will let a stranger try it, *if I've watched them ride a bit and they seem like they will respect my property.* But there are people I know that I won't let borrow any of my stuff, because they damaged someone else's stuff and seemed to have zero remorse or compulsion to make it right. (that affects even my trust to have them over to my house) *My attitude toward my own stuff is it's **_just stuff._** Care for it, but it's purpose is to be used for good.* I also understand the continual disappointment of when you _had_ something nice and someone has now permanently marred it. It will never be like it was. For some reason, *my cars always seem to get hit when parked,* even when placed well out of the way and in good visibility parked with other cars. Most of the time, that is some friend or friend of a friend who is really poor and barely scraping by. They have always been very humble and come back in the house feeling ashamed to have damaged my stuff and asking how they can make it right. God has blessed me so much, *it seems only reasonable that I should pass that blessing on by forgiving them the repairs owed.* It's what I would wish someone would do for me if our life situations were reversed, and I was in a bind with daunting consequences to face.

@user-tf1oo9rj6u 9 ай бұрын

And on a related note: I became very careful about loaning my modded eagle talon tsi (aka awd turbo eclipse). It was a very fast, but understeer prone car. I kept hearing stories _about 8mo after I loaned it out_ about how they had taken it 70mph down neighborhood residential streets! I would consider that reckless and needlessly endangering with my own driving skills (used to wet windy roads with blind corners and deer), but I knew they aren't even close my driving skill level and knew they didn't have the driving skills to understand how to prevent a high speed understeer. They were going to get somebody killed or kill their self when they understeer into a brick wall, and I would be my stupid fault for allowing them that option. So I became particular about who I let use it, even for a quick grocery run. And on borrowing, I know someone I would never borrow anything from, because he was notably bad about maintenance. I would expect a chainsaw or lawnmower to blow up if borrowed, so I might as well buy my own instead. He would have been cool about it, _but his wife_ was exactly the type to demand the newest model in replacement for a clapped out one, and would still be looking dirty at you for it. Not worth any of that hassle.

@crosstrainingenduro 9 ай бұрын

Really interesting about your parked cars being damaged. I usually park right at the end of carparks to get get away from everyone else. And yet there's often someone who will ignore all the empty spaces and park right next to mine lol. Years ago I got sick of people opening their car doors on to mine. But some drivers must think their car will be lonely if not parked right up against mine in a half empty carpark. 😂

@crosstrainingenduro 9 ай бұрын

And that's a good point about your Turbo Eclipse. My last car was a Proton Jumbuck, a very cheap light ute (small truck in the US?) which was very prone to oversteer. I'm no rally driver so I'd be very careful on wet roads especially. Very bad design flaw when almost every car on the road is inclined to understeer because 99.9% of are very mediocre drivers at best!

@xterrential 10 ай бұрын

You break it, you mod it. Vet your guests well and make sure their bike is as good as yours. Don't lend it out to buddy with the 98' yz with bald tires.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Amen to that

@bmccameron7642 10 ай бұрын

I insist my son hand over his new wr450 in exchange for my crf250 rally...obviously he jumps at the opportunity to experience the mind bending power and handling. I feel guilty at his dissatisfied look upon mounting his own steed again.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@Danger_mouse 10 ай бұрын

Similar to you, I'll let people on a group ride have a go on my bike, however I always watch how they ride first to get a feel for their capabilities.

@samtech79 10 ай бұрын

Hahahaa... I let a local wheelie riding kid ride my brand new Talaria. He totalled it in less than ten seconds. Looped it but some how managed to launch it. It flies poorly and landed about thirty feet away. Busted subframe, bent frame, bent swingarm, busted bars, shredded seat and chewed off plastics. Was unbelievable, never have I seen a bike boot kicked into the air like that. And he has no money...

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Damn. Did he even offer to try and replace some of the parts? I love wheelies but I'd never try on someone else's bike without permission. And explaining I'd learned to cover the rear brake well enough to pretty much rule out any backflips.

@noControl556 10 ай бұрын

Friends yes, strangers only in a swap type situation to try out a different bike or setting, etc.

@nzmarkb8713 10 ай бұрын

A very short list Although when I was a brand ambassador I would let people I felt were genuine prospective buyers ride them

@ddrowdy7666 10 ай бұрын

I have a few rules to loaning my bikes and they vary from bike to bike. Rider experience, age, ability to pick it up if they drop it, etc. all play a part. Normally a friend is going to be approved but there have been a couple guy's I said no to. I have also swapped bikes with guy's on the trail wanting to try it out, but their bike has to be of a similar type and value, plus we both have to agree to pay any damages and they have to "look" like they can afford it. It is both fun and informative to ride different bikes. If someone is riding my bike and the motor blows It could be a problem, I would have to make an honest evaluation of time on the motor and how they were riding it to determine if it was just time or their riding that was the major factor, never had any such problems. I NEVER let someone take my bike to go riding without me going too.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Yep, same here. I have to be there.

@BushRoostersMX 10 ай бұрын

It’s only a bike, as long as you know… YOU BEND IT, YOU MEND IT!!! Probably not a person id never met before, but mostly I don’t have a problem with it. But definitely not if I’m not there!

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

I think that's a big key for most of us. We need to actually be there!

@OtisFlint 6 ай бұрын

I could care less who drives my vehicles or rides my bikes, as long as they're not a moron. I encouraged some random guy I met in a Starbucks parking lot to do launches in my Tesla 5 minutes later. My buddy has a fishing tournament 300 miles north and his truck is having an issue, here's the keys to my truck bro, no worries. Vehicles (especially dirtbikes) are made to have fun with, i'll never understand candy ass sports car owners who get upset when a mechanic does a quick full throttle pull in their car, like that same car won't be fine for 20 minute track sessions. My Ex told me she raced someone in one of my heavily modded cars to see my reaction..."Awesome, did you win!?"

@stephencummings8205 10 ай бұрын

I met someone on a big adv bike . after an hr he let me ride his bike and he road mine. Next week he bought a KLX 300 like mine. It's nice to share but remember to be respectful.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Good rule for life

@sparkiesford 9 ай бұрын

I will trade bikes with Buddy's even new ones if they are already riding with us and they have a comparable bike. I will not let any non rider "learn" or relearn how to ride on a 300 2stroke!

@mesikamoto 10 ай бұрын

Its quite common to let your buddies try out each other bikes. I have switched bikes with total strangers on the motocross track just for fun. But I have never really lended my bike to someone for a longer period of time. This scenario is just screaming for trouble.

@Mark-gi5mi 9 ай бұрын

Why trade? If you do not like yours get one you do like. I won't barrow a friend's bike nor want to ride theirs.

@Nicko_92 29 күн бұрын

When i was a kid I let my younger cousin ride my 1983 CR80r he crashed broke radiator shroud and snapped clutch lever lol

@rotorhead5000 10 ай бұрын

Depends on the bike, I'll put anyone with a pulse on my pit bike, I'm marginally pickier about my dual sport (a friend I know who won't be a dickhead, I figure there's nothing worse they can do to my bike than I do it), and I'm real picky about who rides my old BMW, the number of people who I'd be ok with taking that for a spin could be counted in one hand. So really, depends on how precious you are about a given machine.

@user-oe8gy8dk8f 19 күн бұрын

In front of me ...if your as good as our man ,many cups of tea are bestowed upon my mighty machine.....know this

@JeffJeno1000 10 ай бұрын

Having owned an XR600R in the past, that rule was “If you can start it, you can ride it”. Yep, it’s all technique.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😎👍

@BigBergJohnson 10 ай бұрын

I never lend a bike, I don't even have friends that would even think that's an acceptable thing to ask. I never let people ride my bikes if we are in larger groups or there is someone there who I wouldn't let ride it. I don't have the money to waste on other people's mistakes. The only way I let others on my bergs is if they are a genuine and respectful person

@alanwesterfield4254 10 ай бұрын

The only way I am letting another dude ride my bike is if he is sitting on the gas tank with his legs wrapped around the number plate, hands on the crossbar to hold on, and I am sitting behind him driving the controls! AND THAT IS WHY no one ever ask me to ride my bike!

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂 Love it!

@MyRandomLife247 10 ай бұрын

Only friends and that to friends that look after their bikes.

@Harpoika 10 ай бұрын

Bike is a tool which can be dangerous and costly when handled wrong. I have no love for a tool so I have no problem borrowing mine, but I have to feel safe about the other person too.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

100% 😎

@bjjrhino 10 ай бұрын

As someone who has been riding for less then a couple of years I was more interested in the owners experience with there own bike rather than having a quick ride.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Good approach

@ethansmallsandthescaldeddo7645 10 ай бұрын

im on an 02 xr200 with suspension from the 86-89 model, i dont let peeps ride it much

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Good idea, I figure it would be hard finding parts now if someone totalled it.

@Prestonesfpv 10 ай бұрын

You brake it, you BUY it

@ljprep6250 10 ай бұрын

Your lady friend should never be allowed to ride your bikes, or anyone else's. I say the same thing in loaning out tools, which I seldom do. But it's "You break it, you fix it (in a hurry) and give it back to me in the same condition I loaned it to you." Addendum: Never borrow an iffy bike or the owner might make you pay for existing damage. Also, make sure they can ride before loaning a bike.

@gdelarama4256 10 ай бұрын

Me. Some of my closest friends perhaps

@mitch_smith 10 ай бұрын

We say "pay to play". It's the rule. I'm not going to ride a friends bike if he gives it hell, as I know my luck. He may run at rev limits just fine, but hand grenade on me. However, if I'm riding a bike and an engine locks, I know i'm paying at least half of that cost.

@Boonus18 10 ай бұрын

I don't have this problem, because I don't have any friends.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@MotoNomad350 10 ай бұрын

It’s a dirt bike, I’m not precious about it. I apply the same rule as any other tool. If I generally trust them, they can ride my bike. If I doubted their adherence to the golden rule of borrowing, they wouldn’t get near my bike in the first instance.

@brunojorgepires 10 ай бұрын

I thought it was a training vid about someone else ride your bike on trails.... like "I'm done with these logs, please ride my bike through it!!!"🤣🤣🤣🤣

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Hmmm. Good video topic there... 🤔😗

@PA-Tammy 4 ай бұрын

If I ride with you I trust you so you can ride my bike as I ride your bike and it you kill it I'll just fix it myself with the parts you paid for or I would just buy a new bike I seem to enjoy doing that a lot in my golden years....

@larrytobin6603 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate the occasional test ride on an unfamiliar machine, as long as the rider is as credible as myself, I'll swap bikes now n again. How else ya gonna try em all?

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

I've almost always found that's worked well.

@ares333x2 10 ай бұрын

This is why I still have my 96 xr600r... 😂 If you can start it you can ride it. But nobody wants to ride my dinosaur anyways so doesn't matter.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@rjm7168 10 ай бұрын

Basically - no I would not let anyone borrow my bike for the day. I would let people I know take a short 5 minute spin in my presence to try it out.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Pretty much my position too... I'd probably let a family member borrow my bike for the day but even then I'd be uncomfortable.

@AussieDazza 10 ай бұрын

Nobody but myself and my mechanic ( test rides after major service ) rides my bikes. Not worth the hassle if something happens .

@jamesdenton3692 10 ай бұрын

I'd like to ride other peoples bikes ,but I can't reach the ground .😕

@maxl3189 10 ай бұрын

I'd like to hope my mates will help me fix it if they broke my bike aha Where do I ride if my bike isn't registered yet and don't have a license? I live in victoria

@hhlbmx 10 ай бұрын

I let a friend borrow my 94 kx 80. So it wasnt my main bike. He brought it back with a blown top end and didnt even say sorry. I wont let that guy ride any of my bikes again. But others can

@jamesbaber3775 6 ай бұрын

I let my friend ride my KDX 200 It came back with a blown top end I didn’t expect him to repair it Just bad luck really

@crosstrainingenduro 6 ай бұрын

I figure unless he was sitting on the rev limiter constantly you could probably chalk that up to an overdue top end rebuild?

@jamesbaber3775 6 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro that was my thought too

@IanHoltzhauzen 10 ай бұрын

I won't mind to let somone ride my bike for a quick test run but then I want to ride his bike

@davidfindlay5432 10 ай бұрын

Only 2 rules, you need to know the person and see how they ride, and they fully understand the "bend it fix it " rule. It's a great way to try out a different bike, maybe you're thinking of buying or whatever, because you got buckleys chance of a dealer giving you a ride on most things. Strangers and lunatic riders, just no......

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😎👍

@devindunn2575 10 ай бұрын

My brother, my brother in law, my kid, all of our riding buddies. The only one not allowed is the prick that stole it. I recovered it, hooray for the apple corporation and their AirTag. He buggered up some wiring and the ignition switch but never did figure out how to turn on the petcock.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Great you got it back!

@PeterR0035 10 ай бұрын

Can I be your friend? 🙂 and like someone mentioned here; swapping bikes gives everyone great different feels and idea's about other models. yeah,yeah, I mean motorbikes ;-)

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

She rides great! Lets swap!🤔😂

@RaunchyJancsi 10 ай бұрын

I let my friend take my YZ for a trip to Alaska. He is a more experienced rider than me and a good friend. While he was up there, the engine siezed. I chalked it up to the game. Shit happens.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Did he offer to at least pay for part?

@freetaylor72 10 ай бұрын

Let a guy try my 23 beta last weekend, he's a mx rider and he gave it the beans! He came back from his lap and I could see the glow on his face that he really loved the bike. However, he doesn't understand that its not a mx bike, but thats ok cause he told me that the bike is faster than what I thought it was. But in hind sight that will probably be the last time anyone rides my beta baby!

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

I'd be grinding my teeth! lol A well maintained two stroke is designed to cope with being ridden in the powerband of course... but your chances of crashes, engine seizing or gearbox failures all rise. Who pays if something like that goes wrong on his test ride? That's the kind of thing that would be going through my mind.

@freetaylor72 10 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduro it was, I'd be taking his crf 450!

@TheKitchenTechnician 10 ай бұрын

Scott’s never allowed to ride my bike anymore! Not that he would ever want to. Got off his fuel injected, somewhat soft initial power delivery KTM 250 four stroke and on to my new 2023 Beta 300 carby bike. It took less than ten minutes for him to Whiskey Throttle himself into oblivion. It’s September 1st 2023. I think the cast comes off his leg in another four weeks. He did offer to pay for any damages but other than a new set of bars and some cosmetic issues no big deal. I actually felt a little guilty as I offered up the crazy little Italian in the first place. Joe Pesci in the form of a motorcycle, if you will.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

The dreaded whisky throttle! After all these years I still get a brief touch of it once or twice a year. Usually a log crossing gone wrong or something like that...

@SK-pj5uz 10 ай бұрын

Scott here, Yea it was rough, let me tell you what! Tore the lower tendon of the patella but the bike faired much better. Maybe won't ride the dirty Italian devil again but I'm definitely hoping back on mine when I can!

@TheKitchenTechnician 10 ай бұрын

@@SK-pj5uz Can’t agree more with you Scott! Back on the horse as soon as possible.

@TheKitchenTechnician 10 ай бұрын

@@SK-pj5uz That’s the spirit!

@alj631 10 ай бұрын

I don't think anyone likes to lend their bike to others, I think it's right if you lend it to a friend and he damage the bike, he pays

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

I still can't believe that friend of mine who was shocked when I said 'you break it, you have to pay'.

@asherlito3801 10 ай бұрын

My bike is so abused If a Muppet can actually manage to kill the thing, I would probably congratulate him first. Gotta love that good old DRZ400.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@Yoda-em5mt 10 ай бұрын

No fkn way do i even let someone touch my bike , funny how i always end up riding other peoples bikes up shit ha ha .

@carsonpoole5873 9 ай бұрын

No go for me

@KorysRides 10 ай бұрын

If I trust them with my kids, I would trust them with my bike. And then only if they have been on motorcycles for years.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

👍

@edivollgas719 10 ай бұрын

There is much more in a man machine relation than known today. So you should ask this question to my bike ........

@rossmarkle1713 10 ай бұрын

In a word NO and I almost never take the offer to try a different stead. If you wish to try then go buy ⁉️🤔

@markm235 10 ай бұрын

I let Luke George rip my bike on the track. Just to remind me it is 90% the rider and 10% the bike.

@gillyone3167 10 ай бұрын

Never do I let anyone ride or touch my bike. If I am selling it they don't even get to test ride it unless I have cash in hand. I will not even take my bike to a mechanic. The way I see it, everytime I swing my leg over my bike my life is on that and refuse to let a mechanic screw with my bike. If I can't work on it myself I shouldn't own it

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

Good point on the selling... I'm the same. No test ride until you've agreed to buy it and cash in hand. And if you find a problem you get your cash back.

@atlas_au 10 ай бұрын

You sit on my bike, I sit on you.

@ares333x2 10 ай бұрын

Situationally that could be a fun time 😂

@atlas_au 10 ай бұрын

@@ares333x2 you twist my bikes throttle...

@benwallace1469 10 ай бұрын

Ill let friends and family ride my dr350 as i dont care about it . Ill only let my wife and dad ride my drz400 . And nobody but dad and i ride the rmx250s..... and my ct90 and pitbikes anyone can ride as long as they are over the age of 12 as parts are super cheap and i dont mind if they dont work for a few weeks....... and i wont swap bikes unless i wanna ride a bike im thinking about buying

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

RMX250s... classic bikes! They'd be worth a bit now?

@nicktookthebean9489 10 ай бұрын

i let anyone ride my yz and everyone lets me ride their bikes, even their 500s

@DenisKz 10 ай бұрын

I let anyone ride my bike (DRZ400)I'm a terrible rider and have come agutsa many times , that bike is stronger than me. I would be truly impressed if someone can do more damage to my bike than me.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@kevanmack 9 ай бұрын

I watched in disbelief on the trail a few years ago, a 60 year old [novice] rider initially verbally abuse a 68 year old [intermediate] rider before trying to start a fight with him, then when it was obvious the elder wasn't going to, engage, threw and hit him from close range with his helmet..[i stifled a laugh, when the older chap, said..OW, that really hurt me, in a genuine tone] That's when I [youngest of group, 50s [inter/exp] stepped in and said enoughs enough, luckily I'm what you may infer, a 6foot2" "big" bloke, who each knew I wasn't joking....the reason....??? Trying to be helpful on a muddy steephill with logs, the 68 had seen 60 leave his bike and go look at what lay ahead, and I genuinely believe thought he was helping [having known him a longtime] RODE 60s bike up/over and around said obstacles....oh dear, he never asked permission, I kinda saw he had emasculated 60 but not deliberately. I even said 60 could ride my bike if he wanted...but he knew he couldn't and declined, but alas, the damage was done, 60 rode off from us, never to be seen again, 68 still to this day wont accept he did anything wrong, and as joint trail run leader said he wouldn't ever ride with other chap again. The moral of this actual event....well its been whirling around my head for years, and I see this as the opportunity to get rid of it....ASK 1ST before you ride someone else's bike !! I personally couldn't care less, so long as they ask, [common courtesy] and use the you ride it you damage it, you probably now own it, at my sale price....What do everyone/anyone else think? ps it is rhetorical, I know, nobody cares, ha ha K [ ingerLand ]

@crosstrainingenduro 9 ай бұрын

Interesting story! A bit different... but I remember a guy started a conversation with me then casually sat on my bike. I said "Hey, would you mind getting off my bike?" He looked surprised, got off and then because he'd moved it slightly the stand collapsed and the bike fell over. I just shook my head as he didn't even say 'Sorry'. So yeah, I guess it's always a good idea to ask before you even sit on someone's bike, let along ride it. Some will care, some won't. Best to play it safe!

@seashackf1 9 ай бұрын

@@crosstrainingenduroI would go a step further and say don’t even touch someone else’s bike without asking. It’s common courtesy and shows you have respect for other peoples property.

@andywilma2094 10 ай бұрын

Don't let a seat sniffer ride it.

@crosstrainingenduro 10 ай бұрын

😂

@jw8556 9 ай бұрын

There's two things you never lend anyone and they are your bike and your miss's because they will both come back r@#ted bikes should be ridden hard and put away wet if you get two years hard enduro out of your bike it's time to trade up at let someone else throw money at it