It's me

@@kaleahcollins4567 We wuz kangs

Looking forward to this one. Quite a lot of contenders with quite some complicated genealogy.

@@dellAquin it's obviously me

it might not be the Habsburgs

His father of salaudin

​@@kumailshah7017both were great men, how can we argue amogst each other and try to bring down the likes of them. Just think about it 700 years from now no one will even know you existed and you trying to diss Baldwin the 4th

The best king of Jerusalem

For real. I'm neither Christian nor Muslim, but I think Saladin and Baldwin were among the greatest leaders of the middle ages, and I would've been content to live under the rule of either

overrated as fuck

real pope moment

"Jesus Christ! What do you want from me?"

@@curtiswfranks "Well, you'll never get to ask Him, because you're...wait for it...excommunicated!"

I genuinely felt bad for Frederick II, lol. Dude couldn't catch a break

This is likely a political move in the Popes part because it was a hot topic developing between the HRE and the Papacy called the Investiture controversy, in short its an argument on who had the real power over the other, either the Pope or the Emperor, this even blew up to a War between the Italian states where cities supported either the Pope or the Emperor.

haha nice _wait what_

Contrary to Europe there were not many Christian nobility in the Levant.

@Verry Ganteng They were all from Europe and sometimes married a muslim princess or something of that kind. Nowadays here isn´t anything like a ¨Native Jerusalemite¨ because all palestinians are mixed arab and jew and all israelis are mixed jew with European/Magreb. They all have right to live there and should learn to tolerate each other.

@Verry Ganteng Well all of them from Queen Melisandre down were all born in the Levant

@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz That isn’t realistic, the issue isn’t ethnic. It’s religious and since religion a huge ideology for many it’s hard to get past it. Look at Ireland, Ireland is split between two countries, The Republic of Ireland which is Catholic and Northern Ireland which is Protestant both of which have had conflict in the past 100 years due to their religious deference’s. Israel and Palestine are the same why, in 1948 Israel gained its sovereignty fought for the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and was and is Religiously Jewish, Palestine is/was Sunni Muslim and was also created in 1948 through the duel state treaty however they declared war on Israel do two both religious differences and territorial disputes. Israel had a war with Palestine, Egypt, and multiple other countries. Eventually there will likely be a Palestinian revolution and there will likely be both Palestinian and Israeli countries existing in the area in the future, both of which will likely have territorial disputes especially as the Jewish people continue their plans to destroy the Temple of the Rock and build the Third Temple of David on the Temple Mount.

Honestly the Papacy really showed its zenith in filth and unchristian behavior during Frederick’s campaign. They constantly tried to have him killed, which led to Frederick (Who was Sicilian) allowing only Muslims in his royal guard. Partly because he didn’t care about people faith, and also they wouldn’t care about the ravings of some asinine Pope.

The pope really did X X +4 UNO cards to Frederick

Frederick II was such a cool guy....he even wrote a famose book "the art of hunting with hawks"

@@reesehendricksen1871 Frederick deserved his excommunications

Reese Hendricksen Frederick “I like birds” the second

I mean, it was only cause the men kept dying, really.

Well, doughters could inherit the crown when there were no sons . They didn't look for a second cousin once removed, just to get a male heir.

yes yes feminism rah rah rah...that was only done to piss off the surrounding enemy

Sounds like a queendom to me.

It's largely due to the fact its a frontier society. With men dying more often in military conflict, women were often the reason men inherited any power or wealth at all. They lived long enough to build up money, land and political connections, they were the ones carrying institutional and family knowledge, so they were too valuable and powerful to be messed with or ignored. We're also dealing with a time period (at least during the 1st crusade) where primogeniture and salic law were very far from normal among European elites. Life was just too precarious, so in many areas family would leave equal inheritances to their sons or indeed all their children. Eventually monarchs realised this benefited the church (to which many of these children were sent) more than themselves (through a powerful lay elite), and changed inheritance laws.

YES

actually they were all badass in their own way... literally one strong bloodline here

Incestry is the purest of ancestry 😎

habsburg feelings

@@Alin-ql6it Ohh yes the Habsburgs, perfect role models! Makes you feel like marrying your niece or something...

@@locutusest gotta have me that perfect chin and those awesome Hereditary diseases only True Royal Chads can have.

@@forickgrimaldus8301 LMBO

the King of Italy (House of Savoy) also claims the title

@@jacobhutchins2029 yes, and these get their claim through the house if Savoy

I would propose Zera Yacob as a possible successor, not for his relation with these kings, but for his relationship with Solomon, the once King of Zion/Israel.

@Alexandru Bogdan Stirbu i dont think so..

Michael Weiske that’s an interesting proposal. It would make sense if there was to be a “Kingdom of Judah” somehow revived, and it would be fitting since the Ethiopian royal family is the only family to claim descent from Solomon. But, since he is head of the Ethiopian line, maybe another choice could be Prince Ermias so Zera wouldn’t have to give up his royal titles?

just play as a lord in ireland, it's a good way to start slow and learn everything at your own pace

That's part of the fun

I really don't think Crusader Kings 3 is that complicated. It's just a combination of other styles of games. It's a mini-RPG with your main character and kind of a visual novel with its events. It's a fairly straight forward 4X game when it comes to kingdom management, not so different from Civ. Ultimately it's about telling the story of an extended family of power people, how they work together and betray each other.

Just play as like Poland or something.

The in-game tutorial is pretty good if you haven't tried it yet. You get a slightly easier start in Ireland and can keep playing after the tutorial finishes.

It’s a shame Philip II of France doesn’t get as much attention as Richard the Lionheart. Philip was more chivalrous and more the stereotypical “knight” than Richard was.

Merovingian descendants have the best claim since the Donation of Constantine

There is no difference between the King of the Franks and King of France. Same people of the same family, ruling the same kingdom and people. Only the name changed. They refered to ruling a territory rather than a people. But the title of Francorum Rex was used by French kings until the revolution

@@Zach-mw5so Is that a joke? Philip Augustus was a great King for the French, possibly one of the best they ever had, but he was neither knightly nor chivalrous. Every time he was confronted head-on by Richard, he ran away with his tail between his legs. What's chivalrous about attacking the lands of an sanctified Crusader (whose lands are supposed to be inviolate while he is on crusade) because you know he's in prison and can't do anything about it?

@@skiteufr There actually is a difference, because it marks the development of kingdoms into nation-states. Even if the differences in practice aren't much, there's a big ideological and symbolic difference between being King of the Frankish People, and being King of the Land Area called 'France'.

He is.. no doubt the most unfaily treated kings of the middle ages..

I mean his name Fred just sounds like the beat up comic relief character in a cartoon.

He was that last king that tried to save everything, but everything ended up crashing down after he died.

BW Friedrich II was dubbed STUPOR MUNDI. He also was recognized as one if not The One of the greatest Emperors of the HRE.

The person portrayed by Eva Green was the sister-in-law of an ancestor of mine.

Because Paradox decided to not give him money

None of these historical figures are in crusader kings 3

Gumby Shrimp I mean technically all of the figures he talked about for the 1st crusade are alive in the 1066 start date

@@gumbyshrimp2606 wait I can't play with Baldwin IV?

@@derniercaesar5319 in ck2 you can but not in ck3 need mods for that

maybe........

yes yeah right

Why is it right in time in confused

@@foxfoster1 read the description

@@blankspace998 Oh ok. I like that game too I should have known

Yes, both Prince Hugh and Godfrey were from northern France. A lot of the preaching for the crusade happened in the north, because that’s where a lot of the descendants of the warlike Franks lived. In the South the Occitans lived. Raymond was enthusiastic enough but not as much as the North.

Zach north/south of France that is the same people , the southern french are just a mix Franks and occitans,basques,gascons ... And I am French and trust me the southern french are stronger than the northern one 😉

Rachel Sombo If I ever insinuated the southern French to be any weaker than the northern, I apologize :p

@@Zach-mw5so Ironic how the pope intended for the southern to lead the crusade

I'm a descendant of Hugh I, King of Cyprus

@@asherasmodeus Then you are probably a descendant of Charlemagne as well.

@@Otaku155 I am. I have my family tree dating back to pre-roman times as well.

@@asherasmodeus thats actually really cool. Do you have every single generations leading down to you recorded?

Hey, then we are related. I am a descendant of all the royal families. My 28th great grandfather was Fulk King of Jerusalem.

Only famous in America I think

Probably wouldn't have helped much, they'd have lost the power built up by the women who were already embedded politically in the society to import men who were many many miles away (e.g. Melisende's next male kin would've been from France of whatever with no clue about the local political situation, just like her husband. At least by placing her as co ruler her husband had access to the authority and knowledge SHE had built up among the locals.) Also, they'd have been more prone to dying in war, so there'd have been a higher turn over.

What about gavelkind?

@@njb1126 fucking gavelkind, the succession law that brings down empires

I mean you could say the Same to Rome (both Ancient and Byzantine), the Abbasids, the Ayyubids(Arabs), Mamluks (predominantly Cumans,Circassians, Abkhazians, Oghus Turks and Georgians) and Ottomans (Turks). (as all of them are foreign Empires and Kingdoms.)

The Ancient Egyptians, the Hittites, Alexander..... Point is a ton of Empires had a hand print in the Lavant.

@@fluffytom82 Oh you're right, I see. He became a Duke of Lorraine in his early 20s, and I misunderstood that to mean that his original "Lordship of Bouillon" was located in Lorraine rather than Boulogne. But either way, he's not from Southern France.

I'm surprised there was no accidental incest like every time I play ck2

My money is on the descendants of the last King of Italy having the strongest claim, if such a thing existed. The nation of Israel, Palestine and many others would probably get in the way.

The conniving of the French king (murdering the sons and grandson of Frederick II.) in camaraderie with the Pope and Venice brought an end to Jerusalem.

@@Rickuo That's much later on. I'm saying that if the Crusaders were able to establish numerous loyal French population it might be able to establish a stable and settled Kingdom instead of just the few ruling Franks holding Castles and rule lands over foreign subjects. This is how the Muslims expands, by dispossessing people who are not Arabs (and later Turks) and settle the land themselves.

Jep ive been there many times. There is also a beautifull medieval castle on a hill. It might be build by him idk.

Thats incorrect. Actually Geoffrey Plantagenet was related to the Kings of Jerusalem by blood. King Baldwin III and Amalric I were his half-brothers. his father Fulk was King of Jerusalem in his own right unlike Guy de Lusignan who was only King in right of his wife, Sybilla. Sybilla, Baldwin IV and Isabella were Geoffrey's nieces and Henry II's cousins and Richard the Lionheart's aunts and uncle.

@@godfathergtg I was just going by what I saw in the video. You have a correction, send it Matt’s way, too.

@@baronvg did so

Baldwin IV The Leper King was Henry II Plantagenet's great grandfather. Cool.

That sounds good!

Since they would be technically the titular kings of Jerusalem I think it would be interesting to see as well.

He's my 26th great grandfather and Henry II is my 24th great grandfather. That makes us related! :D lol

They offered Henry II the Crown of Jerusalem in the 1180s, before it was taken by Saladin. He declined, probably because he didn't give a fuck about Jerusalem, but the excuse he gave was that he wouldn't be able to fulfil his oaths as King of England, if he also accepted the crown of Jerusalem.

@@SRosenberg203 That claim would be pretty weak. Fulk who is the one that connected the families was Baldwin IV's grandfather and he still had living sisters with (eventually) children.

@@mrXOwarrior It was less about his claim and more about the fact that he was a wealthy badass who might have been able to adequately defend the Kingdom if he assumed the Throne. When I say "they" I was referring to the Archbishop of Tyre, and several leading barons sworn to the King of Jerusalem.

Me, neither! And I've been studying them for a long time, too!

yes he is from the actual Belgium lol

Bouillon lies in modern day Belgium. I don't understand either why he represented southern France

Thanks for the recommendation

@@chombus2602 NP. She started it a long time ago, so the early episodes aren't the pinnacle of sound quality, but I only remember that I enjoyed them either way.

100% this, thats a great great podcast. Highly recommended.

Brienne line is actually the senior line after Conrad II/Conradin die and the Lusignan First House dies out. But the Poitiers-Lusignan took over.

Most likely the person with the strongest claim to the Crusader State of Jerusalem would be connected to the Kings of Cyprus and thus either the House of Savoy (Kings of Italy) or the House of Brienne (kings of France).

@@mrXOwarrior The historically correct answer is the person who can march an army to Jerusalem and get the people to proclaim him king. Other than that, the King of Spain claims the title, and as he is the only existing monarch to claim it, he has the biggest claim. Though, I will point out that the Kings of Jordan have claimed to be the protector of the holy sights of Jerusalem, and they even claimed Jerusalem as a second capital after annexing the West Bank (So yeah, if you think Jordan supported/ supports Palestinian independence look at history) in 1950. So perhaps, the Kings of Jordan have a better claim. I don’t really accept blood claims as the only reason why someone has the best claim to a throne abolished centuries ago. I think the person with the best claim is a current monarch, who claims the title, and has some sort of history with the area.

It's in the description.

I think he’s going to do a “claims” video in the near future. Tracing the lines of the current claimants as far back as possible.

@@Zach-mw5so for this or for all claims of everything?

Vincenzo Rutigliano Díaz Any modern descendant of royalty who claims the title, I think

Italian House (Savoy) is more legitimate. The family that claim Jerusalem on Cyprus continued in Italy/France and became the kings of Italy. The Spanish claim comes from Charles Anjou who bought his claim from someone who had a weaker claim and never ruled.

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