If you are interested in anything I used in the video... Fuel pump: amzn.to/2lDFxGd Hose grip pliers: amzn.to/2mal8ZJ Sil Glyde Lube: amzn.to/2lI84KO Pliers for the constant tension clamps: amzn.to/2lI9BR4

Don’t change you MO for one bad comment. When there’s 16 bolts to remove, show the first and the last .....then tell the the naysayers to loop that 14 times if they prefer🤪 Your videos are great,

That dog is doing good work. Sure it was a caterpillar this time...but next time it might be a tiger or hyena, and then what!? Nice video.

Your "down to Earth " attitude while addressing problems is fantastic. Loving your channel thus far!!

Hey Wes. Really enjoy your videos cuz of your calming way of explaining things. For the fix, another route can be adding an external check-valve in-line with the fuel pump. Not a "legit" fix per se but should be less money and time. Cheers

Your videos are very detailed actually, I can repair certain things just by watching you do them. One day I should send you a video on how to remove a Cataract!! Doc Mike USN

Great video, very well done. Never seen a fuel pump design like that before.

Wes, I have a 1989 Deutz Allis garden tractor that has a Kohler Command 16 engine. It has almost 900 hours. Other than 2 starters and a fuel pump, it's held up better than any B&S engines I've had. Nice videos on the Cub. Stay safe.

Great diagnosis description and repair.Enjoy your vid's Wes.

morning Wes I have a zero turn cub .love it .fun machine. Kohler twin cam ohv.easy to work on. I have a 1988 Sears Wheel Horse with briggs and stratton 400 cc 11hp 3 speed standard trans. That machine was my dads .That tractor is my pride and joy .it gets washed and bath and covered when i am done. New oil and lube end of summer. im the only one that drives and works on it. just painted it for the first time.Same color. Looks new.

I had a Suzuki sj410 . That keep struggling with fuel starvation . Eventually I took off the fuel pump and stripped it . It had “ plastic” one way valves inside . Held in place by rubber rivets . No service parts available. So had a smoke and a coffee . I substituted the rubber rivets with stainless steel screws and nuts . With a dab of Threadlock I had available. It worked . Never had any issues with it after . So when the say no serviceable parts . There is always a way . Love your videos . Great content as always . Kind regards Martin UK .

I have this tractor and it has been great for the past 20 years. Just disassembled / cleaned the carb and changed sparks - runs good as new!

Generaly a very good engine. I had a 18hp V twin on a 2042 Cub. Its now my m8's driveway grader tractor. Still going strong. Next is ballon quad tyres for traction. Great vid, been watching you for awhile. Just joined hopped on your Bus.

I have a 1968 Raider 12HP Wheel Horse. It has a Kohler. We rebuilt it twenty years ago and my dad said it really didn’t need it after getting inside. Retired it to a toy in 2009 but it still starts and runs good. Has been a work horse all the years before I retired it.

Watching you remove those 4 bolts was fascinating, didn't bother watching the rest 🤣. Always enjoy your vids Wes, keep them coming.

but... the gory details of how you figured it out are the most useful details!

I have done that same valve cover replacement twice, not due to a bad fuel pump but for the threads on the oil filler stripping out. Top tip don’t over tighten the oil fill cap. The snap ring does work especially when you don’t have the fancy pants hose clamp pliers.

@Wes you should do/ show whatever you want Ot is your shop, labor and channel. If people want to complain then how about they make their own. We all are guests and we enjoy you being you.

I bought some water based brake cleaner this summer. Now I look for all the warnings and buy that. I resurrected my 2001 Exmark Turf Ranger after about ten years in the shed. It sounds like you're Cub Cadet. It has a Kohler Command 23. After lots of little things I got it running pretty good now. That was a 3 beer video. That is a high ranking Wes. Have a good weekend

I wish I'd seen this video 6 months ago. I got a very used cub cadet off marketplace for $200 cause I wanted the kohler 18 out of it. would not start - thought it was a carb issue. the carb was PART of the issue(the solenoid plunger was stuck extended) but after that was fixed/cleaned it wasn't getting fuel. This was my first time seeing the mechanical fuel pump, and I quickly figured out it was pumping but as you said not holding. I took it apart and the same issue with the poppets. Bought a new one and bam, good to go. but it took me a while to figure out. great video very helpful - earned a sub from me! FYI there are certain Kohler singles that have this same type of pump on the side of the engine and they have the exact issue with the valves working loose. I had to replace one on a craftsman LT2000.

I've got a 2004 horizontal command that will be getting a new fuel pump now. The long cranking is making sense. Mine has the crankcase version. The fuel pump has 4 hoses going into it. I keep a can of spray silicone on the shelf, great for spritzing hoses before you push them back on, coating spark plug boots etc. I'll have to pick up some sil-glyde.

I used to have a cob kadet tractor. Mine was an old model than yours they are very strong little tractors and with a little TLC they will last a very long time and they are one very good work horse of a tractor and it will surprise you as to how much work it can really do I got mine used and worked very hard for over 20 years. And I then sold it and it was still working then

Love your videos thank you I'm old but always enjoy your videos thank you

Use a soldering iron to carefully melt the plastic against and over the valve insert at several places.

To hell with the negative turds. You do great work. Love the channel.

Thanks for the video! Ordering the part today and hope I can fix the problem

Life saver! Im defiantly trying this i will get back to you if it works for me!! Need to get mine running and sold!!!!

If you trim around things before you mow you are less likely to hit them. AWESOME job on the mower and using the factory replacement part. Good dog you did not know he was pointing out that the color band on that wolly bear tells you that this winter is going to be cold as h3!!. Need to listen to him also. Now just make some down spouts on a remote so you can move them from your mower. Boring story but if you know John Deere parts you have probably heard of dealer parts or sajac parts in Beaver Dam WI. That started by them buying a brand new unused tractor or implement and completely dismantling it to sell the parts. I was working on equipment there many moons ago and surprised they where tearing apart a new combine, the guys working explained that is how they get the parts they sold. That is a long time ago, I am sure most parts are now just knock off parts from over seas. I look at everything I buy and decide if I really need it by where it was made. I have no issue with Mexican electronics they have awesome factories that I wish would have been built in the north, I do not hate the people just the governments.

Love the circlip indexing tool quality stuff.....crafted in Korea!Keep up the good work Wes!Greetings from St Antoine Abbe Quebec Canada!

Don’t worry about those jerks who give you grief about your videos. At least you are having a go at it while they play with their phones. Great content keep up the good work.

Awesome. I just bought me a brand new club cadet . I love it.

Put an in line fuel shut off valve on it and use it to keep the fuel from draining back. Another option like someone else said is seat the poppet valve and heat the edge around it with a soldering iron and roll the edge over to hold it in place.

Well, it isn't the problem I'm having, but you captured my attention so I watched and enjoyed the whole video. Yep, everything you said made sense except that you forgot the part about snap ring, snapping you in the back of finger then hitting you in the tooth. Snap rings are more apt to hit the tooth than the eye. This was a great video. Thanks for the chuckle.

I'm not a mechanic, But I saw a man on KZfaq weld plastic with soldering iron and a zip tie. It looked like it would hold. Might try that on your problem with the part your installing. GOD'S blessings to you.

In line chek valve ,2$, will fix that every time ,greatings from Romania ,you sir have a ghift ,love your chanel

Thanks for sharing Wes alway good 👍🇦🇺🚜

While I have a brand new Craftsmen 18.5 hp riding mower that I use in places where my bagging mower can't reach, I much prefer my old MTD Yard Machine that I bought several years ago. It has a 20 hp Tecumseh engine with twin carbs and a 42" deck. I used it for almost everything until Hurricane Michael hit and I found I was using it more to haul a trailer around to move tree and limb debris for both me and one of my neighbors. I took the deck off, which is why the Craftsman, so I could clear some of the uneven areas where the trees, fourteen of them, had been pulled out of the ground by the storm. That old MTD rarely hesitated to do everything I wanted it to do and weight did not seem to bother it. Eventually, the carbs finally gave out and it landed in the shop to have new ones installed. Age and corrosion had done the original carbs in. The Tecumseh is an orphan engine in that it is no longer being manufactured and parts are getting harder and harder to find for it. When the engine does finally go I'll have to look and see if I can find an engine that will fit the body but until them I'm going to keep running it. I finally did reinstall the deck and added a bagger kit once the land was level enough to mow again. I think, really, it's all comes down to the preference of the owner and how hard parts are to find or shops to maintain them. One local shop refuses to even open the hood on my MTD whereas other shops only repair B&S engines.

You sprayed that brake clean, and no lie, I could smell it. Ahhhh that beautiful smell

I had a guy give me a mower just like that except mine has the Briggs V-twin and he told me the engine was blown. I went and picked it up for the heck of it didn’t really want it but I’m glad I did. I drug it up on the trailer and brought it home I poured some gas in it and try to start it and it started and ran really rough and wouldn’t run much faster than an idle While missing and stumbling and smoking black. A snap the breather box apart and the air filter was completely stopped up as soon as I left the air filter out the engine revved up and smoothed out. I change the oil and put a new air filter in it and it runs great but it needs a stator For the charging system. The biggest problem I have now is I can’t get it to mow worth a shit. I sharpened the blades that were on it and it didn’t make any difference so I put a new set of blades on it Still very little. The deck has two small rust holes in it but I don’t see how that would affect it much. The clutch doesn’t seem to be slipping at least until the battery gets weak the belt looks good the thing has me stumped. You have to mow the yard twice with it to get it to cut everything.

JB weld the poppet valve in place, and keep it as a spare. It might last longer then a new one.

I am new subscriber and just wanted to throw you my thoughts and support. You are honest and intelligent and you just are making videos about what you like to do.and hoPe maybe to help others. I enjoy watching them and like your down to earth and refreshing style. Do keep it up! As to the whiners, F’ ‘em !!. Never forget this is your channel and you run it the way YOU like, showing content the way YOU WANT. Keep up the great work, and one more thing your channels growth says it all!! Youre doing it right

I haven't laughed in A long time and you're dog made me happy

Hi Wes, thought you might be amused by this. I looked up the hose pliers on Amazon US=$36.03, UK=£86.97 + £14.99 delivery! That's over 100 quid all in, plus I would have to wait a month before they consent to deliver. I expect a bit of a mark up for shipping etc, but that's taking the mick! Sadly it's fairly typical of US made kit. It's often easier (and cheaper) to get cheap tat from China than from the US. Still, thanks for making your videos, I really enjoy them. Cheers Owen

My Kohler had 2 of these pumps fain within 12 months. The first time, I spent the $70 for the OEM pump. The 2nd time, I said screw it and installed an electric pulse pump in its place for only about $20. No issues since.

I had a poulan- pro that did the same thing. It had one of the pulse type fuel pump mounted high up on the engine. What was happening was the gas tank was under the seat, so the outlet from the tank was a lot lower than the fuel pump, so when it sat for a while the gas in the hose would run back down the hose so it took a lot of cranking to get the gas back up to the pump to start the motor. An in line check valve up close to the fuel pump solved the problem.

Been watching your videos for a little while thought I’d go back and watch some older ones-I think it would be funny if you got those beer goggles/glasses and tried doing a little task like this while wearing them 😂😂😂😂

that's one hell of a battery you've got there!

Great video I like the video keep them coming

Thank you for helping us non mechanics fix things.

And there you are, Wes, working on a Cub Cadet wearing a John Deere hat.

It's good to see you back in your office. What happened to the 2 live feeds ? Thanks for your time and effort in making videos .you make them enjoyable and interesting to watch.

I personally like Kohler engines. My last two lawn mowers had/have Kohler engines. And my old mower is still working at my son's house... Thumbs Up!

Love your videos.

Cub Cadet was originally an International-Harvester Brand. After the Navistar split, it remained an International brand. They have a good following. I have heard that Kohler Korea builds engines from sub-assemblies sourced from other vendors. Kohler began life as a German plumbing consortium, making every thing from boilers to faucets to tubs, sinks, and the like. They appear to pair up well with Korea and not PRC. But, that's just my 2¢, spend it well.

I would have used "cool" soldering iron to roll some plastic over top of the popper valve. So when the plastic heats up it won't be a bigger hole.

That may also be my long crank hard start problem, I'm going for it, thanks!

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet but the CRC brake cleaner in the green can is the chlorinated stronger stuff. My favorite stuff is the Wurth but it's harder to find in the states since its European made. That fuel pump setup is definitely cheesy. Definitely works in theory but you have to ask yourself what they were thinking when they used plastic to make the body of it, except maybe, "Good, this thing is cheap, and will definitely fail, keeping our service departments, and parts after sales program in business." Lol Your videos and content are top-notch and both valuable in information, and the commentary is great.

Good job Wes!

18:20 - I did exactly the same thing when I was replacing the fuel pump on my Simplicity mower with the Kohler engine.

As you stated, the snap ring is useless. Hose pliers worked well as you show. I expect vise grips would also work. The engine starts up so easily when it has fuel. What a difference. Dave.

You could melt the plastic with a soldering iron once you push the valve down. Nice seat cover on the cub cadet.

Wow.. my John Deere zero turn has this same problem. Wander if it is the same fix. Thanks for sharing Mr Wes. God bless.

s&k tools...big money. Enjoying these videos, thanks

My first experience with cub cadets was a 100 model. I was in seventh heaven!

Sil-glyde rocks, My tube looks just like yours. LOL Works excellent on dirt-bike fork-seals as well. Way slipperier than petro or lithium grease.

I have fixed several plastic items using an inexpensive 3d printing pen including 2 of the kohler command fuel pumps. milage may vary but it's a handy tool for some situations. my day job is small engines. I prefer using new parts but sometimes you have to make do. I'll be watching. you only really need the crazy ring if you mess up the angle. hokey as the design is it works and doesn't leak the have went to those type pump fittings on all replacement pumps including the ones for the old k series. the casting of the sleeves into the valve cover was because folks were losing the shoulder bolts and using normal bolts and breaking the valve covers.

My coworker has the same issue with a cub but a vacuum fuel pump. thought it had a check somewhere in it but never got around to checking it out. Now that I'm thinking about it my cub has the same issue but i have used it since last fall.

7:35 minutes of PURE VIEWING BLISS.!.! Best 4 machine screw removal I'VE EVER SEEN.! Hands Down, and 2 BIG THUMBS UP. 5 ***** TO BOOT.! Honestly I agree with all the others who LOOK Forward to your TIME SHARING...! WHATarethe 4 YELLOW CAPS for at the EPILOGUE/OUTRO..?.? And what about PLASTIC WELDING, build up a retaining rim.?.? I remember something about it for motorcycle fairings, etc..? And next time put the "C"clip in a vise.?.? Now that I've had 7 month's to figger it out, smile..AHHH, Fa story Specs, ahhhhhh, fine, fine, fine.

That pump is the same idea as the transfer lift pump on my Cat D4B. Has those type valves but the housing is metal.

Great channel

Love the dog Good job

This was an excellent video. Thank you! This is exactly why I have probably been having to prime my mower, each time I use it, for 2 years. $75.00 or a simple prime each time with gas, I think I will save the money. 😉 A great video all the same though. 👍👍

I feel your pain. Just did a ignition replacement and you just can't buy one coil...oh no you've got to buy a new set and strip some wires...

Cheers for the video bro.

had same problem on one, added inline check valve at pump inlet for less than $10, you could also dimple the plastic around that valve with a hot iron the lock it in place

Very weird that the engine wouldn’t start off the fuel that was already in the carburetor bowl even with the old pump. It should’ve started regardless, assuming the bowl is full at the time it was shut down last. That mower is a catch, rarely see the twin command drive shaft cubs anymore. I got 3 at my shop but they are the single cylinder commands. I’ve sold most of the parts off them to date. Extremely reliable and durable mowers!

Tuned in....yawn. Lol ❤️ Your Videos.

I'm a little envious of the power steering - but for my old S10 pickup!

Great video and very informative.! I have a cub cadet 2166 with 20 x 9.00 - 8" nhs rear wheels... will these wheels 20 x 10 - 8 nhs fit?

Oh man Wes, get rid of that Koehler pump & convert it to a Briggs vacuum operated pump. Cheaper reliable pump & won't fill crank case with gas when diaphragm fails. Lots of videos on that new Utubey thing, maybe you've heard of it. Love watching you work

Seeing the poppet valve was lifting up, some JB Weld after a good cleaning, and some roughing up would keep the valve in place.

Very informative thanks

Good info here. After viewing the video, I would be tempted to just use an inline squeeze bulb to prime the fuel line. Save the old assembly and glue in the poppet with some Right Stuff just for having a spare around

I was wondering if there was no relief valve on the pump so it would see lots of forward pressure when the carb float valve is closed and drive the valve out with time?

Would there have been a way to put a inline check valve to fix it or a must replace fix?

Seat looks like my JD.... keeps out the rain water....you use the same sayings as Eric at SMA, I'm a new viewer and like your channel..

In a pinch...you might use a small auto-matic center punch to raise a few burrs on the perimeter of those 2 poppet valve...might hold them in for …..another week..?

Nice job.

The sacrilidge wearing a deere hat while extolling the virtues of a cub cadet.

Thanks for sharing. 👍

Hi Wes i was saying to myself the carb is dirty or the fuel we get these days has taken a toll on things .... Great video and nice job ... Thanks !!!!

Why are we watching these videos? Because you’re a real live mechanic who makes mistakes and is man enough to show them!

They forgot to tell you about the special tool that you needed to install the special tool.

I have a 17.5 horse Command in a John Deere L110 (2003). Had it 2 years and replaced 2 fuel pumps. Good engine, but takes forever to tart.

You do excellent work West. Forget the trolls and do your thing. Any monkey can take anything apart, putting it back together correctly sets us apart from the monkeys.

You can convert it over to a vacuum pump.. gotta fabricate a steel cover w a breather hose nozzle and bolt it to the fuel pump mount. Run a hose to briggs fuel pump and line in w fuel line to carb. Mount it to engine shroud.

I wonder if you could have plastic welded (melt) material over the poppet to hold it in place.

Had a Cub Cadet w/Kawasaki 17.5 up motor, best running,most reliable rider ever ownwed!

Hey Wes, what about some super glue to help hold the pop it valve in place? Might be worth a shot next time.

Looks like you can put a thin plate in to hold valves in place