I am an SDA pastor and former Hip Hop artist from the group Boogiemonters, signed with EMI Records. I left the group in 1996 after being introduced to the Adventist Church. I went from a skeptic of all religions to becoming an SDA. I've been SDA now for 28 years. Much research went into my decision to leave behind an $800k music contract to follow Jesus. The doctrines we hold as a church can be demonstrated from the Bible alone. We are not isolationists. We believe there will be people saved from every denomination. We believe there will be many people saved who never kept the sabbath and many people lost who strictly kept the sabbath. We are not a cult. Promise. Our church was built on the backs of Protestant Reformers.

I was raised SDA. We kept the sabbath day holy. It started Friday night sundown to Saturday night sundown. On the sabbath we didn't spend money, no TV. We went to church, ate good food at home and spent time together as a family. There is an emphasis on eating healthy and lots of SDA are vegetarian and do not drink alcohol or smoke. We believe based on scripture that the dead stay dead until Jesus comes amd then the dead are raised and those saved go to heaven. I went to an SDA school. Elementary through high school. I never once saw a fight at school. There was no teen pregnancies, no gangs. Majority of my graduating class went into the medical field. SDA do a lot of medical missionary work. Loma linda University hospital is known worldwide; it was originally owned and ran by SDAs. Not sure about now. We were taught about Ellen G white in school but she wasnt the primary focus. In church the focus was always the Bible. I don't think SDAs were fairly described in this podcast. But each person has their own perspective. And it's interesting to hear other people's take. It sharpens us to have discussions and see others perspectives. But we always have to remember to do our own research, read the Bible for ourself and ask God for guidance. So we can listen to preachers and other speakers, our parents....but we must always check it for ourselves and see if it aligns with the Bible.

What a time to be a Christian where we can listen to an hour of sound instruction, rebuke, warning…there will be no excuses to not grow in the faith. I’m encouraged to take my faith more serious

Hello! I don’t usually respond in chats but after prayer and much contemplation I felt impressed to share my story. I was raised Baptist and eventually became a non-denominational Christian up to the age of 31. I also firmly believed that SDA’s were a cult based on what I heard and just stayed away from them. Well, through a series of events I ended up moving to Takoma Park, MD and little did I know that this was a town laden with SDA’s. There was an SDA hospital, two churches and an academy within a 5 mile circumference of where I lived. For that reason, I ended up meeting and eventually befriending an SDA in the park. Shortly after we met I knew she was a sincere Christian and I started asking her questions about the Bible. One day in particular I was talking to her about the secret rapture. She insisted that the rapture wasn’t a secret. I was curious about her belief and wanted to study the Bible with her to understand and examine her conclusions. That conversation led to a series of Bible studies. I met with her for 2-3 days a week, sometimes several hours a week. I had to challenge and examine everything I thought I knew as a Christian (i.e. the state of the dead, an eternal hell, diet, clean and unclean meat, jewelry, dress, the Sabbath, etc.). I had never heard or even understood some of the things we studied that I thought I knew, and I never truly understood how to study the Bible until I sat down with her and fully examined my belief system. She and I studied for six months. She never mentioned Ellen G. White. Everything we studied was directly from the Bible. It wasn’t until I decided to become SDA that she gave me the Conflict of the Ages series written by EG. White. This only amplified the Bible and further solidified everything she and I studied in the Bible. In addition, I was able to learn how to live a biblical life as a Christian through EG Whites writings. They are beautiful and harmonious with scripture. This woman truly discipled and spent time with me. She became my close friend and helped me transition to being a Sabbath keeper. I am the only SDA in my family. I left all my friends and walked away from everyone and everything I thought I knew to become SDA. It wasn’t until I made this decision that I truly started to heal from a life of trauma. My life changed emotionally, spiritually, mentally and physically. Though I had accepted Jesus and was living up to all the light I knew, I still struggled, especially emotionally and physically with anxious attachment disorder. I share all this because I would encourage you to sit down and study the Bible with an astute, seasoned, biblically sound Adventist. All of what we believe is backed up by scripture and the majority of what this man is saying can be debunked and is false. Please take the time to study and show yourself approved, a workman who need not be ashamed, rightly dividing the truth of God, versus sitting with someone who is making false allegations with no facts. Please take the time to understand from someone who is in the faith and make an educated decision for yourself. The truth will make you free. Amen!

“Christian’s are embarrassed of being Christian’s” that hit deep conviction 🥴

This is a real conversation that may need more than one segment to unpack it all. I’m here for it.

Jackie and Preston, I’m an SDA Christian and I want you to know that this community rolls deep in support of you both. For several months I’ve included Upon Waking in my morning devotional experience as well as promoted books such as Holier Than Thou. We attend your events, read your books and watch your videos. With that said…you have a guest that misrepresented us and I’m saddened, especially since there is so much love for you both. I’d like for an SDA guest to be afforded the opportunity to defend the denomination that was mischaracterized on your platform. Ivor Myers is a great option, Ty Gibson has posted a lot of great content already, Myron Edmon is a good option, C Wesley Knight and even Claudia Allen. I’d like for us to get an opportunity to clarify the remarks made.

From Anglican to Adventist here. Please invite Pastor Ivor Myers... You will not regret it! God bless..

As an SDA, I realize people never ask us what we believe but make assumptions while calling us cults. I grew up as a Baptist and elder’s daughter, very active in church but had no sound knowledge. I became an SDA 10 years ago, I didn't accept the Sabbath at first but seek for a deeper walk with God, and I prayed to God to show and direct me to His truth. At the time I didn’t know about EGW writings. God directed me using His Word (The Bible) only and even though a few years later i left the church because I wanted to ‘live my best life’ I always had in the back of my mind the Sabbath and the teachings and held it as the truth. I have returned to the faith a few years now and it’s the best decision I have made. EGW writings are not held above or on the same level as the Bible, in her writings itself she urges individuals to study the Bible. If you have never read any of her books I recommend ‘Steps to Christ’ and ‘The Great Controversy’. Never assume without doing your own research. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Great Podcast! I’m a seventh day Adventist. I wouldn’t describe my religion as a cult. Preston I think you should have a conversation with an SDA as you did with the Mormons.

“I never want to be the Christian that’s not able to fundamentally understand my faith enough to defend it.” This whole conversation basically told me GO READ A BOOK.

I agree with some of the comments. Jackie and Preston should consider having a sit-down with an SDA member/members😊 Would be lovely to watch.

When I “deconstructed” it didn’t really have a name. I wasn’t in church but my hearts desire was to know my creator not just traditions and religion. I legit wanted to know the One who caused me to be and what that meant for me and life. God met me where I was and has been so patient with me and continues to be so. It has helped to not allow God to be diminished in my mind/heart due to the actions/behavior of others as I get to know Him.

Yes I agree, Jackie and Preston . I am a Seventh Day Adventist, I have been enjoying your teachings and preaching about the Lord. I have never found my church to be a Cult or behaving like one. I can not explain about the love of God in my life. I have bought up my children to be free thinkers. You need a conversation. The gentleman that you spoke to heard about us he does not know us. He must read, he is a reader, let him read.

God is doing a deep clean in the church globally! THIS IS SO SO CRAZY! Just yesterday I was talking about the EXACT same thing with my friend in the car on our way to church only for the bible study to touch on the exact same thing! that God is doing a deep clean globally and many churches all over the world are getting the same message!! And on my break from work the next day (which is right now as I type this) I haven’t watched the Perry’s in a while and then BOOM! The exact same message!! JESUS CHRIST IS ALIVE! Repent everyone and go back to your First Love!!! No matter how deep the sin! Go BACK to God! No ways Lord!!! 😭🔥🔥🔥Thank you so so so much!! 🇿🇦

I think the Perrys would be surprised how many SDAs really love their views of theology 😂

This is so good. This is what I’ve been waiting to hear. I left church because I was unequipped to handle being questioned by a member of the moors. When I went to ask the pastor he laughed at me and dismissed me entirely. I walked away feeling like he didn’t know the answers and I converted to a moor. I was 18 years old. It has taken me almost 20 years of back and forth to get back to Christ. Now I study to answer those questions. I love where Christian leaders and apologetics are now, because I wish I knew of these types of Christians back then it would’ve saved me. But the journey was necessary . This interview is brilliant.

Dr Mason, I am a SDA pastor for 25 years. First I want you to know that I have followed and greatly appreciated your ministry over there years, especially your work in our urban centers. Your scholarship and commitment to rightly dividing the word has been refreshing and I can say there are many Black SDA pastors who appreciate your platform and voice and see you as a brother and ally in the body of Christ. Having said that with sincerity, I’m legit grieved by your irresponsible misrepresentation of SDA beliefs. You are a seasoned pastor and scholar but your explanation in this podcast of our beliefs seems like you didn’t do thorough research. Do you have any SDA pastor friends you could have asked? Did you even go to the official website and look up our official statements? Interview a scholar at our seminary’s and universities? You clearly didn’t! I think you should have an off camera conversation about our beliefs with a group of us before you write any more books or espouse to be an expert on whether we are a cult. Very disappointed in you But open to a grace filled dialogue Respectfully MyRon

The church I attend is not in a building as a church, but but in a rented shared room. Five or six people gather to pray and praise the Lord. The pastor has been praying for 30 years that we need a church, but We are thankful because we know that where two or three people gather, Jesus is there. In Japan, where I live, the Christian population is estimated to be 1%. It is considered unacceptable because Shintoism and Buddhism were originally there. I once had a hard time fitting in with my surroundings because of that. I had a difficult time. Please pray for Japan.

Please invite Pastor, Dr. Myron Edmonds on the couch. I'd love to hear the dialogue with him in regards to Adventism and the SDA church. 🙌✊

Jackie and Preston you should have a conversation with someone who is SDA it would be a good conversation and I love y’all both and think your ministry is great!

I am a 4th generation christian who worships on the biblical 7th day (that was never changed by God to Sunday), and who is looking forward to the 2nd coming of Christ- in essence, a Seventh Day Adventist. I listened as the gentleman discussed what SDA's believe and I honestly had no idea what he was talking about..there was nothing read from our doctrines or references produced to back up what he said SDA's believe. Many if not all of his remarks regarding Ellen G. White are false. Our beliefs do differ from main stream protestants simply because we fully embrace bible truth, and did not stop protesting. Following the Dark Ages, where bibles were not allowed to be read, the people were taught by priests who taught them traditions of men and not the bible (the Word of God) therefore leaving them in darkeness. God raised up protestants such as John Huss, Martin Luther and many others to bring aspects of truth to His people. All truth was not given at once as this would have been akin to suddenly turning on a bright light in the midst of darkness (as you can imagine, that would hurt your eyes). God gave enough light here and there and as time went on, He added truth to truth so that eventually the full truth could be seen. Unfortunately protestants stopped protesting..for example, Lutherans stopped protesting where Martin Luther left off. Methodists stopped protesting where John Wesley left off. There was still more truth to learn but many denominations did not move beyond what was known..this is true for all of us, in our personal walks with God, there is still more truth to learn..ask God to lead you personally and your family into all truth. Read and know the bible for yourself and not soley through the eyes and interpretations of your Pastor. As christians, we measure all things against Gods word and discard what does not measure up. We do what Christ did..If you are wondering about what was presented here and if SDA's are a cult.. (BTW, we are not a cult)...please take a look at this: kzfaq.infoY-xtCKKlwqo?si=n74yA1Rl4N5-XKfm GOD BLESS!!!!

Small thing: I love that Preston is holding on to Jackie's foot. The slight connection here speaks volumes to me. As a man who loves/needs physical touch and understands the comfort and connection therein while having this intimate yet intelligent conversation, speaks to the intimacy here.

"We don't do evangelism anymore. We just attract people to stuff" - Dr.Eric Mason Unfortunate yet great point! ☦️🔥🔥

A part 2 with Dr Mason would be great. Such a fruitful podcast!

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Perry, please do an interview/ apologetic dialog with Ivor Meyers and / or Walter Veith. You can find them both here on KZfaq. It would be very interesting and clarifying to see and hear your discussion with these Adventist apologists. As children in the Lord's family, we must reason together with love and mutual respect. The ball is on your court family. Please at least pray about it. Maranatha🕊

I went through a sort of “deconstruction” a few years ago…I had to reevaluate my faith because I was under “prosperity/word of faith” teaching for a long time and it led to a lot of disappointment. I had to deprogram my mind from a lot of those teachings and go back to understanding what was biblical. Now I believe I have a healthier view of God and a healthier relationship with God and I’m continuing to grow and mature in my walk. It was necessary. Peace and blessings!

I'm so glad yall are addressing cults because it's really wild out here. And I already know Dr. Mason's gonna bring dat 🔥🔥🔥

You know, I've been listening to you guys for just about 2 years now. I am raised SDA and, as an adult, became an SDA and what's interesting is that although you have never claimed a particular denomination, based on your interpretation of the Bible truth and concepts, it always seemed to me that you were either raised SDA or God has spoken the same Bible truth to you. You guys need to sot down and have conversations with SDA leaders or members and you will be surprised how much you and us do see the Bible truth the same way. Unfortunately some of your opinions shared may be what your findings were but I can assure that you were malinformed. One thing I've admire of you, Perrys is the ability to converse,hear and see things from different perspectives. Continue the great work!

No confusion, SDA is solid. Suggest reading before judging, no deception, the word only. Salvation through Jesus. Different sure. But open, come and join us! God bless

I appreciate Jackie’s honesty especially about confessing out loud to God how me might desire things that are not rooted in Christ but being honest enough with God to give him our desires so that He can fill us.

Please invite Pastor @ivormyers, Pastor Myron Edmunds or Elder Dwayne Lemon to have a conversation with you all. Many things you’ve said here is not correct and it would be helpful to have an open discussion with an SDA Member / Pastor. It would show you are open to conversation about this properly to speak with a minister in the church. Let’s see what ya’ll will do. God bless. Praying for this conversation to happen.

Back in the 90’s I was searching for truth outside of my Christian roots and it struck a chord when he mentioned Cheikh Ante Diop, because that’s exactly where I was thru his books and original audio recordings my father gave me. I also had an opportunity to go to a book signing for the Metu Neter and asked the author an honest question. The book included incantations in “Kemetian” language to be used to call on different entities to aid you in various aspects of life. Since it wasn’t English, and I didn’t understand the language being used, I asked “What if I’m not saying or speaking the words correctly?” Bruh gave me a cold, blank look and just said, “Don’t say them incorrectly…”, let the room stay silent for a beat and then moved on, “Next question….” I never picked the book up again. That was the beginning I my journey back home to Christ.

Christian here born and raised SDA, my father has been a minister in the SDA for the 33 years of my life. I was surprised that he labeled SDA as a “cult-ish” because that has not never been my viewpoint or experience. The Bible is held above EG Whites writings . Also we don’t believe that just because you go to church on Sunday you have the mark of the beast. 😂 I would love to hear the Perry’s sit down with a SDA minister. Dr. Wesley Knight of Revision Church Atlanta would be a great guest!

I thank God for hearing my prayer in the depth of my despair. I got on my knees and prayed to know His truth and whether I should stay in the Seventh Day Adventist Church or not. I was born into the SDA faith but my own pastor was challenging EG White and insinuating that she was a false prophet. I pleaded with God that if this was true, I would walk away from my church, give up the 7th day sabbath and all of my church family to follow Him completely. All I wanted was to know His truth and asked for discernment to keep me from deception. Needless to say, He kept me in the Seventh Day Adventist Church and guided me into another Seventh Day Adventist church family that was serious about following Jesus and His word. Even though It was one of the most difficult challenges I have ever gone through, Jesus used it for good to really ground me in His scripture, to understand the biblical role of a prophet, and to set me on His solid foundation from which I cannot be moved by His grace. ❤️

Adventist here. I would encourage a level of humility from my fellow SDAs in the comments, and honesty. Looking at our history as a church, holistically past and present, especially in the west, the many ways in which we have acted and continue to act that earns us the title “cult.” Ultimately, we aren’t but I get it. One bad apple can spoil the whole bunch tbh in case anyone thinks I’m broad brushing. I appreciate and honor Dr. Mason and his ministry. He’s a very important voice in the culture on behalf of the kingdom. For the sake of fairness though, I would encourage building bridges. Y’all gotta rub some shoulders with some black Adventists on here like Ps Debleaire Snell because the spectrum is real 😂 Funny enough just last night I was listening to David Asscherick’s presentation on “The Ecclesiastical Trajectory of Reform.” if you’re an Adventist give it a listen. Let’s be better.

Their gifts took them further than their character. WOW! I have listened to this twice already. Learned a lot from this conversation. This is so needed…

@ivormyers would be an excellent person to speak with for a conversation on SDA church culture and beliefs. Please consider it, Perrys. Always appreciate your ministry. God’s richest to you and your family!

As a Seventh Day Adventist, I'm requesting an interview with a Seventh Day Adventist pastor to find out what the church is actually about and what we actually believe...because to me we are far from being a cult, we are the only church to this day that keep all of ten commandments and we look to the bible above everything else.

I’ve been saying for years that we as the church have lost our identity in suffering. Paul never boasted in his blessing but he boasted in his suffering.

I’m 20 mins in and it’s the postures for me. The display of honor for the man of God, the bigger brother in Christ, and father in the ministry, Bishop Dr. Eric Mason. My heart is warmed to see two solid, younger black theologians have a bigger black brother theologian to look up to. ❤🙌🏿

I would be great to have an Adventist on the podcast, like you did the Mormons.

As an SDA youth who loves watching Perry's Podcast and listening to her messages, I am surprised with their perception and their mentality and attitude towards particular churches. such the SDA. I cannot speak for all, when I say I am deeply Not offended. As your guest mentioned, there is a remnant of God and whether you like the SDA or not, we will all be tried in the fire and tested or even persecuted and be hated. the more you speak about us in that manner makes me realize that it is just part of Gods plan for us as SDA Christians. it hasn't change my mind on following and believing that the 7th day sabbath is a Holy day. I have been a bible believing Christian constantly seeking thus said the word of God from my youth. I honestly do not see how different you are from us. I appreciate this discussion. It was a good discussion.

Oooh Jackie, "confess and Have The Lord fill me, so I'm not filled by the people" woah But thank you for being transparent. Help me do this Lord. Amen

Thank you Holy Spirit for leading me into this conversation. We neeeeeeed part 2 and a LIVE version of this. The Church needs this edification 🇿🇦🇿🇦

As an SDA believer, we believe Jesus is the Savior, EG White writings are not above the Holy Scriptures. Many read her writings as inspiration. However, SDA is a Bible believing church. Members attend church when invited by friends or family and are not micromanage about where you were when you didn't come to church. We believe the Sabbath is the day God set aside for rest. However, the scripture states in John 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. So that let's you know everyone will not be of the same denomination. Seek the Lord while he may be found. All this beating up on different denominations is many times a distraction. Seek to have a true relationship with God and He will lead and direction you.

If SDA’s as here described is a cult, then that means Jesus was a cult leader.

We really need to use the right language. A cult is actually a controlling, high-demand group with a single charismatic leader that is difficult to leave. If everything is a cult, then nothing is a cult.

Listened to this episode on repeat on Monday throughout the work day cuz there were so many gems.

Dr. Eric Mason, please quote one claim you’ve made about SDA’s doctrine. JUST ONE! (Study and show thyself approved)

I am a Seventh Day Adventist, and I'd like to encourage us all to watch the "Make it Plain" discussion on this interview. May we all know the truth by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, as the Truth will set us free.

Whoaa... I can't speak on behalf of the SDA church but I've been apart of the church my whole life and we've always been taught that Ellen White's writings should never be held to a greater standard than the Bible

Honestly, I did not expect for the Perry’s to come back with this kind of banger! This is literally why I love this channel because they are not afraid to tackle the hard stuff and have an actual out discussion about things that people are afraid to talk about

He’s all over the place with SDA beliefs. I hope the Perry’s actually have a genuine conversation with a SDA that can actually articulate the faith

Ty Gibson from Light Bearers is another great person to bring on for a chat about the SDA church.

There needs to be a part 2. This conversation was so good and definitely needed in the climate today....

Listened yesterday on Spotify! Great episode! Part 2 definitely required!

I'm SDA and he's not really speaking the truth. I watch the Perry's often and I believe you all to be biblically based and in harmony with my church's beliefs (on the bible and lifestyle). I have not heard of one teaching from Jackie and Preston that I don't agree with. I would say learn more about SDA Church beliefs from someone who is SDA because with all due respect what Dr. Mason said was not accurate. I recommend you link up with a podcaster on KZfaq by the name of Justin Khoe, Ivor Myers, or Doug Bachelor, and have a discussion on SDA beliefs. I think you guys would have a good conversation if you invited any of them onto your podcast. Also, as a note for further study. Ellen White was given the gift of prophecy just like how the Holy Spirit pours out other gifts to whom He wills. If you read anything she wrote (such as Steps to Christ or Desire of Ages to name just a couple) you will see how strongly she points us back to the Word of God and Jesus. She even tells people to not exalt her or look to her but to look to the bible and Jesus. As a prophet it was her calling to turn people back to the plain Scriptures. Unlike many others she has never sought to take God's Glory to heresfl but to only be a messager for Him. I have read many of her books even the ones on health. Doctors are discovering today the counsel she wrote about in the 1800/1900's. There is more i can say but i will end by saying SDA Christians are not cults, cultish, or whatever he said. We are lovers of God's word and followers of Jesus (the only way). Be blessed friends.

❤One thing about it ... Preston gone hold Jackie feet and I LOVE to see it ❤

This conversation was 🔥🔥🔥 and much needed. Thank you all.

Unfortunately I don’t think the Adventist church was explained in an accurate way in this episode. I would love to see an episode talking about the 4th commandment and sabbath keeping. Having an actual Adventist on the podcast would be great to hear firsthand what the denomination believes. Some great guest recommendations are the following pastors: Debleaire Snell, Carlton Byrd, Myron Edmonds or Wesley Knight.

I just want to say, thank you Jackie and Preston for speaking so boldly and sharing the truth, that is Jesus. The conversations are never surface level, and you both help us to think more in depth about what we as Christians profess to believe. May God enlarge y’all territory and continue to make you both prosperous in all you do in marriage, ministry, and in your personal lives (individually and collectively). Love yall! ❤️ and Pastor Mase you’re a real one! YALL BE BRINGING ON GIANTS IN THE FAITH THAT DONT REALLY HAVE A LARGE PLATFORM AND I LOVE THAT! Those be the ones, for real. Okay, see ya!

Let's have another conversation with Dr.Mason! So so, so good, thank you for this 🙏

Love him. This is so real. As a Pastor this conversation is so important

SDA is in no way a cult. People who don’t understand or misinterpret other beliefs would say this. SDA don’t ever say the writings of EG White are equal to the bible. That’s error

Great convo, but I'd love to hear from knowledgeable SDA minister to accurately depict the religion

Love Pastor E. Mason! Always so insightful… very good dialogue.. always ready to learn when he speaks!

I'm SDA and we do not view anything or anyone equal to God. Excuse me ... that aint funny. Jesus ...yes! Everybody else, have a seat.

Back when I was attending Temple, I was honestly at a place in my life when I was riding off my mama’s prayers. I would often visit Epiphany Fellowship and Dr. Mason always preached a message. I may not have been ready to receive but I always appreciated that I left filled with the Holy Spirit and that I was able to fellowship with true believers of Christ. Nice to see him here!

“We love the world”.. that was humbling. Thank you all for sharing. Blessings.

This was so good. I recently stopped attending a church in Houston due to the prosperity preaching and the emphasis on sowing seeds in the church financially. Pastor wearing gucci shoes and expensive clothes all while telling broke folks they need to give to the church in order to be rich. Would spend 15-20 min on the giving time. Noticed it got worst after he got married and a lot of things changed at the church that did not sit right with me. At some point I fell into that Christian form of manifestation/law of attraction mindset because I thought well if I am tithing and praying to God then I will manifest all these things but like they said it is simply the church mixing worldly views with the word of God.

Oh yes, I can't wait for this one ❤❤

I listened to it… I was on board until he came for SDA…. I grew up in that church. The prophet that he speaks of… at no time, did her word ever go above the Bible. Neverrrrrrr…. So he’s misrepresenting an entire group of people when he’s never been a member, merely an observer and a researcher. I know that SDA churches in America are different from the Caribbean where I am from…. And it’s crazy how cavalier you pastor mason as a “godly” man can say these things. But I believe god deals with pastors who lead their flocks astray. So you have a good day sir. I await the time when god deals with you

So. Much. Realness. Grateful for this conversation!!

This felt like 30 mins. I pray that conversations like this continues and I hope you both bring him back. But I think getting his book would be great for myself and others.

FINALLY!!!! I’ve been waiting for this. I remember when Pastor mason would come to Howard U for our impact events. Amazing teacher!

I can't wait! Great topic...

Brother Perry. I don't know if you will see this. This is Pastor Myers. I am here for part 3. It was brought to my attention that you said you had invited several SDA pastors to come on to your podcast to address SDA beliefs and that none of the SDA pastors responded, including myself. If I was was one of them, I never received such an invitation. I was told by several people you were going to reach out to me, but that reach out never came. if I missed it, my bad. But I am making this public in hopes that you see it and that others will bring it to your attention. I will reach out to you and your wife on all your other platforms as well. I am interested in having a cordial and respectful conversation with you and and sister Perry.

As a Seventh-Day Adventist going back multiple generations, I wasn’t aware that other members of the Christian church thought that we were “cult-ish.” I disagree with the sentiment that we hold the writings of Ellen G White above the Bible. She even admitted that her writings were to be viewed as the “lesser light” in comparison with the Word. I’d love for Jackie and Preston to have a recorded conversation with a member of the SDA church to clear up some misconceptions of the denomination.

MORE PLEASE!!! Loved this conversation. (Love them ALL.) God has really been speaking to me on this subject. It is time.

People have questions that deserve an answer. If We Christians can't answers those questions, they will go to someone who SAY, they can. I lovin this podcast today.

Same prayer, to see the B.O.C. BE the Church in the World. Praying for Spirit-filled, Mature, Seasoned Fathers for young Pastors.

This was a full packed session of the great minds of Jesus Christ. Thanks Bishop Mason and The Perry's You have enriched my life through Christ❤

This was a great conversation. Great questions and answers. Thank you and God Bless you all.

This is such a necessary conversation!!!

This was so good. Thank you all for introducing me to this brother.

His sovereignty and holiness demands our awe and reverence. This conversation takes me to Colossians! Understanding God and his character. Understanding our faith. Many leaders have jumped to application that we now have gotten used to having our learning done for us. There’s a need for discipleship that leads to maturity Orthodoxy (right doctrine) Orthopathy (right thinking) Orthopraxy (right practice) This leads to spiritual fruit and maturity.

Man, this is so real. Thank you for the conversation. ❤

1:07 and the Lord is already teaching me something. Jackie is always quick to speak out her challenges with the flesh in regard to her attitude. 1. It helps us see that she is human. Many times we think that our teachers do not have the struggles we have. It helps us not to idolise a human and remember that only God is perfect. 2. She shows us how to deal with these issues. First say it early so that it doesn’t eat you up inside. Secondly, say it to someone who will hold you accountable. Lastly, and most importantly, give it to God and ask the Holy Spirit to deal with you. It’s in the little things where we minister to the saints. Glory to God.

This is such a good conversation!! Thank you Dr Mason & Perry’s for your obedience and passion for educating Gods people! 😭🙌🏾🙌🏾❤️ Ps We need a Part 2!

Yall need to get him back here!!! This conversation was sooo real and honest. "I want to see us shining well" "What are you saying?" "The prosperity gospel has been presented on the extremes" There are so many good thing in this conversation!!

I need a part two!! I needed to hear all of this, the world need to hear this.👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏽🙌🏽

It was great to hear Dr. Mason talk about the importance of liturgy, as a Lutheran Pastor I believe it is crucial to have in the church.

Great conversation! And ya'll got some SDA ticked! 🤣 In the book, the chapter on SDA is written by a former SDA who was an Elder in the church! He's not somebody who doesn't know what he's talkin' about! He was high up in the organization, and told what he knows to be true! He used to teach SDA doctrine, and Ellen G. White ideology etc,. etc. I think we can trust his judgement on this! Anyway, good video. Love Dr. Mason!

I ordered the book. Let us rep the church and the faith well. Amen. Like many people, I appreciate this talk. I especially appreciate Preston’s passion for apologetics and people who turn towards the Moors because they deconstructed their Christianity. My dad has gone down this route, mainly I believe because of the racism he faced growing up and he never really got any answers about that trauma from the church. I am so thankful for people online and in churches who address this type of thing now. I’m praying for my dad to come around.

We need more of these conversations and we the Christians that are here benefiting from these conversations need to make these viral and influence the culture. We can't be acting like victims to the culture like we have no power, dominion means dominating your designated territory. 🖤🙏🏽 Thank you very much brethren for this beautiful and enlightening conversation. It gives me hope for America as a country and American Christianity. May God raise more reformers to transform the narrative of the entire nation. 🙏🏽🇿🇦

The SDA Church does value EG White but not higher than the Bible. I am a sabbath keeper who goes to an SDA Church. The Bible says God rested on the Seventh day. The seventh day is sabbath. It was constantine that dictated Sunday, not God. I would say SDA is definitely not a cult. There are too many divisions and variations in the church for it to be a cult... but research sabbath in the Bible. And research how Sunday came to be. The history of religion in conjunction with the Bible, points to the Sabbath as the day that God created as a day of rest. His greatest gift to man.

THE WAY THIS EPISODE BLESSED ME. Sharing out in 3…2..1…

This conversation was so good! Thank you so much for this!

Asking questions and wanting sound answers! Studying to show yourself approved but when you need guidance can’t nobody answer! Thank you for acknowledging that this is a major part of why some folks have and are deconstructing their faith! It’s not just folks wanting to wildout! You maybe surrounded by dozens of churches…and none of them are able to help you through the tough questions! I’ll be honest that some of those cults make you feel like they have answers and are willing to have discussions with you even if they are wrong…they will had you books to read outside of their main text. So thank you for acknowledging this!