How much did it cost

Without changing it?

@@CreeperOnYourHouse Yes

Blackstone laboratories cost about $45 for an oil sample with checking the TBN as well

In 1963 I was working in a Standard full service station. We checked everyone's oil. I commented on this guys golden oil. He pointed to his Frantz oil cleaner and said use one of these and Delo. You wont need to change your oil and your engine wont wear out. The manager said he is a Standard oil engineer. I remembered seeing a Frantz brocure in the grocery store bulletin board. It had two knobs on top. I got the newer over center clamp. I was using Delo. It was about 29 cents a quart in the discount stores. My oil went from black and dirty to golden. All I have now is top loaders. Toilet paper doesnt fit the Frantz now. You can use it if you know what you are doing. With the top loaders you just get the diameter right and push it in. They have the bigger seals. I like the Australian Jackmaster Classic The old Ford 390 has a over 50 year old Motor Guard on it. The others are Gulf Coast juniors and newer Motor Guard compressed air filters modified to filter lubricants. A flat head Ford V8 canister filter converted to use a full roll of Scott 1000 for the diesel tractor.

@@ralphwood8818 Ive been looking at the Motor Guard compressed air filters and would love to convert them to filter lubricants. I like that package. I have 2 frantz originals and one refiner. The refiner is the best design I have seen.

​@@orthopraxis235 All the Motor Guard needs is a flat spacer at the bottom and top to put a little squeeze on the core and an orifice. At one time I thought they needed a center tube like the Frantz. The Australian Jackmaster Classic has no center tube. They depend on a firm roll such as Scott 1000 or the Jackmaster Classic element to keep the tp core from collapsing.

​@@orthopraxis235 Some are using the Motor Guard with the stock plastic internal parts. They wont melt but will eventually deteriorate. The origional filters were all metal. I still use the Gulf Coast junior. It is glass filled nylon. With stainless steel hardware. They might be out of production. Saw one on a Humvee years ago. I think the big paper towel filters are more lucrative. A Frantz dealer came out with the little filters when the Frantz filters went out of production at some point. Its a tough business. Most people think proper maintenance is allowing the oil to get dirty then draining it.

@@ralphwood8818 I really appreciae all that information. Have you seen the Frantz refiner? Ed Greany in Pinion Hills Ca produces them. It's a Frantz design, but it takes a whole roll of scott 1000 and doesn't need a center tube. OIl drains to the bottom and leaves the filter dry if mounted upright. There are cooling fins in the middle of the unit . I have two older ones and one refiner. Ill take another look into the Motor Gaurd with the modifications you mentioned.

I have if so it switches when the bladwin is out of stock

I have a flat head Ford V8 canister filter converted to use a full roll of Scott 1000 on my old Ford Diesel tractor. I dont think you can find cotton elements for the old canister filters now. Pleated filters are not much good in a bypass filter.

Saw some Scott 1000 individually wrapped at Walmart. It has the 1 1/2 inch core in case a Frantz user doesnt have the sleeve for the Frantz tube. Its a little softer than the Scott 1000 in the multi packages. Similar to what we used in the 60s. The top loaders have the larger seals for the bigger tp cores. You push the core down against the seal and put on the lid. Frantz is the last one that breaks at the bottom as far as I know.

Just watched a second time, a very nice presentation without the BS by many.

how long does your oil stay Golden? I know diesels turn black right away but gas engines are far more clean so in theory the oil will stay clean looking for a very long time with good oil filtration on it.

@A2J_Tim it darkens slightly but stays golden until I change it

Myself I would change the full filter as recommended as it cleaning on the big stuff so the by by can grab the small stuff

I have.Yep I want to a series on oil and filters. Just have to get to the point I can do it

A Frantz dealer had Frantz 3 stackers all over the gulf of mexico on marine diesels. It took several to equip a locomotive engine on a drilling rig. At some point they went out of production and were replaced by a Gulf Coast single and double roll Bounty big roll paper towel filter. I have some of the little toilet paper filters in use. Not sure they still make them. They might be working with the Australian Jackmaster filter company. They are similar.

if you want a damper i would by a ati or fluid damper for the 12v ( video coming for why ) i dont sell one but you can buy a small billet from ebay just have to drill a hole and tap it

When I was younger with less experience I returned the oil to the wrong place in the valve cover of a Peugeot diesel. The oil pan was cast aluminum. With the Frantz installed we headed to town. I told my wife slow down. She said it wont slow down. We were running on motor oil. She got it off the highway and I stuffed a jacket in the oil cleaner to kill it. Actually I put the self tapping hollow bolt on the wrong side of a baffle. The PCV was pulling out an oil mist. My wife was usually driving by her self. I think that car would have taken a Ford Frantz 2 port adapter. What if that had been a customer. I was selling the Frantz at the time.

Thats the air cleaner.

i will have them on the website soon when its up

@@CUTTERUPROB I ment your Amazon "shop".

IF you pickup from the oil sandwich adapter, it's best to return to either 1. the top of the engine where your add oil (purchase another oil filler cap for emergencies, drill a hole in your current cap, install a swivel filtting for your bypass return line), or 2. punch hole in oil pan and return the oil there. I think if you return and pickup from an area too close by you may have flow issues and mixing issues where things won't run as effectively. I have seen a lot of install guides from various bypass filter systems and NONE have both pickup and return coming from and back to the sandwich adapter. The 2 methods I mentioned are ALWAYS mentioned .

The 2 port sandwich adapters work great if you can find one that fits the Cummins. If you have an oil pressure gauge and the oil pressure is good and the bypass filter gets hot you are good. Put one on a 12 valve Cummins fire pump at work.That was years ago when I had to have a machine shop make a Cummins nipple to fit the Perma Cool sandwich adapter. In the 60s I used Frantz 2 port sandwich adapters. They didnt work for small engines. They depended on oil flow being high enough to create a pressure difference. On the small engines like my lawn mowers I put a 1/8 inch pipe plug in one port of the Frantz and returned the clean oil to the drain port. The lawn mowers take a 3/4 16 thread such as most Fords and Toyotas. I dont know if Frantz still makes 2 port sandwich adapters.The oil cooler sandwiches work the same.

In the 60s if you used a sandwich adapter you didnt need a restrictor orifice in the Frantz.

i still like to run them, i would just do more tests . Thanks hopefully we can get to 30-40 in the first parts f the year

that one i talk about i think is 12 nom 25 ab , but is a cheaper option

My 64 Rambler flat head 6 came with a spin on bypass filter. The oil was always dirty and black. I solved that with a Frantz oil cleaner. Saw a Car Quest filter that fit it advertised at 10 micron. The Australian Jackmaster Classic claims 1 micron. I happen to kmow they can beat that. We tested the filters with lamp black. Lamp black is smaller than 1 micron. Motor Guard claimed 1/10th of a micron with 2 ply toilet paper. Now they have a high dollar element for instrument air and painting. They still claim submicronic. In the 80s Amsoil had a submicronic filter. They had Bobby Unser saying this oil change is forever. Probably too good and too expensive. Tell people they dont need to change oil isnt smart. They think oil is supposed to get dirty and be changed

pure diesel has them i am pretty sure

@@CUTTERUPROB I saw somewhere that a Dodge Neon has a billet oil fill cap that will fit a Cummins engine?

Did a fleet of Powerstrokes and didnt have any billet oil fill caps. The 7.3s had a 3/8 pipe plug in the bottom of the engine skirt. I drilled and tapped the fill neck on the 6.0s. That was years ago when the 6.0s first came out. The old 6.9s I put a self tapping hollow bolt in the fill neck. I have drilled and tapped a few plastic Toyota fill caps and put a swivel air fitting in. I drilled and tapped a plastic cap on my Ford tractor hydraulic system. The engine oil uses a Perma Cool universal sandwich oil cooler adapter I got from JEGS years ago.

Dont know much about the centrifuges. My 65 Honda 305 had a chain driven centrifuge. I remember the ones on the Mack trucks. They were common on Soviet tractors.

@@ralphwood8818 They are so efficient they spin out to sub micron soot particles. They cost nothing to maintain or change except time to remove cake in housing.

​@@conmanumber1 The Honda centrifuge packed the sludge in so hard I had to break it out with a screw driver. I had a Frantz oil cleaner on the Honda 500 Custom.

Still black

@@CUTTERUPROB You're saying the promo videos I saw weren't true?! 😮 Seriously though, really useful video thank you for sharing!

The oil is amber in my gasoline engines and black in my diesel engines. Sometimes the black oil is cleaner than in a propane engine where the oil looks like new. If you are selling filters always show the oil soon after an oil change. Some diesel engines take longer for the oil to get black. The oil in my diesel tractor is analytically clean and black.

I have sent black oil from commercial trucks to a lab. The report came back that the oil was good. I stopped worrying about color. If the oil gets black in a gasoline engine you need a better filter.

can do that as well

Nothing wrong with them if you want to buy there setup

I tend to not trust big corporations and was wondering if the filtration numbers on there filters were accurate. I was thinking about this over a kleen because its a whole kit. @@CUTTERUPROB

i have run both in the really cold just by a good one

Ant names you'd recommend?

@@timlabarr6131 sent me a email. Robcutterup@outlook.com

It’s depends on the oil and other stuff in it.

@@CUTTERUPROB Water will always be heavier than oil no matter what's in the oil (sediment) or the oils weight. The pan is the lowest point in the system. I don't think I'm wrong..miright!! 😁

@@jeffsikula2920 sorry I thought this was talking about black diesel. The water if it was to sit for a long time will settle to the bottom. But in the case crank if you don’t get it hot enough or if there is to much it will just mix in and most of the time kill parts.

The System 1 is only for racing where you are only concerned with large engine damaging abrasives. A 75 micron filter is of no value for normal use.

I have links in the description

Best not to if you don’t know how. That’s why I didn’t recommend to do that

In the 60s we had to use a 1/8 inch pipe tap a lot on foreign cars when installing bypass filters. Mostly when putting a tee at the oil pressure switch. We used grease on the tap. There was about 1 thread difference in an inch. The metric would go in the 1/8 hole. Later years I got adapters from McMaster Carr.