The idea that the US is sponging up parts for Ukraine's overtaxed air fleet is most probably true. How public they want that information to be is something else. Kazakhstan is still well within Russia's orbit. Medvedhev has even made threats against it due to what many russians see as their "disloyalty" to Moscow.

Did you see where SecDef was grilled by congress on why only 29% of F-35’s are mission capable?

Yeah, just cause the Kazakh's are denying it, doesn't mean much to me. It's not like they're incentivised to tell us anything other than what their bosses want us to hear.

It's false. It's more than the Kazakhs actually own. They don't even have any Mig 31's.

If the Pentagon denies it's probably true lol

This is my sister ....

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congrratulations i read this in Borat's accent. Great Success!

FYI Borat was shot in eastern Europe. Kazakhs don't look caucasian... nor Jewish

@@hgyuuuuhj098 This is correct. It was shot in a village named Glod in Romania. Ethnic Kazakhs may not look Caucasian, but there are many other people living in Kazakhstan who ARE caucasian and there are Jews living there too.

Great Success! High Five!

@@artnull13 yeah!

Verrry niceeeeee!

That thumbnail is so Aladeen

Dude when I heard that I literally LOL'd. Comic gold!

"I was inverted"

@@sancocho1718 “You know, … the finger…”

@@baomao7243 Iceman: "coughs-bullshit"

I knew it was real!

😂

You must have a screw loose...just like Boeing's airliners. 😉 Nah, just kidding, theirs are usually missing entirely, not just loose. Boeing's new motto: "Oh geez, it'll be fine! 🙄"

@@rbrtck it could be “what whistleblower I see nothing?”

😂😂😂😂😂

"Much success for the US and A!" 👍

This.

But they can still manufacture the parts.

@@Bob10009 I think this is easier said than done for them. Russia's biggest import prior to their historic goof was machine parts.

@@Bob10009 Possibly. But the time and resource costs are much higher. A prebuilt part costs only a fraction and doesn't divert your manufacturing base from producing other, more useful and modern equipment.

Exactly. Low dollar control of strategic resources. Low hanging fruit. Makes sense, even if there are workarounds.

FOR REAL! Plus, when you look at the costs of doing a hot section inspection on the engines, overhauling them, the ejection seat, etc., pretty soon you're talking REAL money!

Cars these days, are more technical than those planes. If they added any parts from a modern car, to those planes... it would be an upgrade. lol

I wonder what the condition of the planes is?

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@@DEP717 Scrap?

@@DEP717 they are probably not running. I bet they use them as decoys. Set them up on air strips to draw in the enemy, for an easy turkey shoot. Or they are just for parts. ...I like this decoy thing myself. lol

excatly, remember that kazachstan helps russia in conflict

We _ALSO_ bought them for some false-flag operations that are coming up.

We didn't by those jets. This story is fake. The Kazakhs released a statement saying, "The information disseminated on the internet [about the fighters] is not true... " The Air Force can't even afford to fly the F-35 and F-22 the number of flight hours that they were supposed to fly a year, so spending the money to fix up a bunch of derelict is out of the questions (there were jets for sale, but they were apparently in such poor condition that they were not worth fixing. )

@@TROOPERfarcry your tin foil hat is too tight…🤦🏻‍♂️

​@@Bob10009Lol Wearing a "tin foil" hat is a badge of honor nowadays considering how many "conspiracy theories" have been proven to be true lately. UFO's and vaccine injury come to mind, so jokes on you, Sport. It sounds like you could use your own "hat". Then, you might not make ignorant statements on the internet. 😉

Even if they’re just spare parts well worth it at at that price tag.

Good for opfor for training

​@@GOD719 I doubt any of our pilots would wanna these

​@@GOD719 They are not going to spend that much money on these for OPFOR training.

@@ironnads7975 20k per plane is pretty cheap. Missiles cost more. And there have been sightings of F117s flying again. They might be using them as training for "enemy stealth planes" Which the F117s and F16s are way more expensive.

I had a neighbor who was stationed at Beale and worked on the blackbird back in the 80's.

Russia did get some of their design doctrine right - low maintenance and assume the worst: unprepared fields with only minimal services available. Make the SIMPLER and FREQUENT repairs very easy.

From what I've heard, that wasn't the case with the east German mig-29's (short service intervals etc., engine in particular) - which is why they went first to Poland, then to Ukraine.

​@baomao7243 wasn't the mig 29 not more expensive than the su 27 long run because it was so expensive to run?

@@WeAreLegion1904 Like communism, “stated goals and actual results tend to diverge.” 😉

And if it is MiG-31, there is a lot of Titanium. Like gold. $20k per sounds very unrealistic.

The engines alone are worth over 20K a piece

I wonder how much I could get for £90,000

The Russians don’t need the parts the Ukrainians need them, the Ukrainians were extremely good at rebuilding and upgrading these aircraft, there own unfortunately didn’t have the latest electronics and radar and that’s why they can’t fight with the Russian fighters. They simply are outranged in radar and missiles.

Russians can and do machine their own parts.

@@Rob-vv5yn Not many planes over Ukraine. They are getting shot down

@@GOD719 yip both sides don’t fly over Ukraine !!, it’s still air denial zone with sniping over the borders but the Russians can get closer

No they arent, Russians conduct 200 sorties a day. Get a clue ​@@GOD719

That, in a nutshell, PERFECTLY characterizes aviation.

There used to be an "Edge of space" thing in Russia where you could pay sit in the 2nd seat of a Mig 29 2 seat trainer as it flew to 20KM in altitude. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hqt4a8x9z9LTlIE.htmlsi=xW24W2HD6l4zFQce

Clint Eastwood got the last one.

The Firefoxes are hangered with the MiG-28s.

@@Rob_F8FMig 47 buddy! 😊

Only Opera GX and EExplorer

They would’ve gotten more on eBay. But maybe this was a Groupon…

This entire 'story' was debunked over a week ago. The aircraft have to be scrapped in place. They're not going anywhere. The price reflects the scrap value of the aircraft only. The story came out of a Ukrainian newspaper that didn't bother to check the details..

they sold them as scrap.

@@dogsnads5634 straight up, ukrainian news is dog water when it comes to getting actual info, so dont bother. I mean news in general nowadays is dogshit but ukraine is the worst culprit

Sadly probably not. The cost of maintaining the -31’s would be astronomical, easily worth a couple squadrons of F35 funding. Maybe they’re for study, I’ve not heard of the Air Force getting g a hold of Mig 31’s before.

@@drewski5730 they got a mig25 many years ago a 31 one is an upgraded version, it’s not like you can dog fight in a 31 it’s a stand off platform really.

@@Rob-vv5ynstill be useful to take a look at it even if it’s an older model especially if they haven’t had the chance to look at one yet.

@@HankyInTheTanky sure I agree

Fake story. The Kazakhs released a statement saying, "The information disseminated on the internet [about the fighters] is not true... "

@@shenmisheshou7002after a phone call from the Russian ambassador?

​@@artnull13More like after a call from the CIA acquisition officer.

U ok there, buddy?

Yes and most continue to provide support for the missions you mentioned. Draken and Atac are flying missions almost everyday. Last May Draken was supporting 4th Wing F-15Es while Top Aces supported a multinational Operation at Langley. ADS B will show the various East Coast Ops much of the time. Draken is also active in the UK.

OSI

Mooch says it all the time. BUT....... Area 52? Now that's when you need some extra care.

Because they do not have doughnut ? 😂

Not worth the risk of a phone call to nag them about it.

I got a $30 garden gnome that can do the same!

…and they have been !

You must eject from the backseat of someone else's jet or it doesn't count

Well, that seller country was the Soviet Union that's now defunct. And don't forget all the now independent republics like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Poland, the Baltics, Czech Rep etc all contributed to the fiscuss and ingenuity of everything that came out of the Soviet Union. So Russia cannot solely claim the rights to anything Soviet since it was a collective efforts from all the now sovereign States.

@@tboydot1 That's a valid point though it's a wide variety of machinery and maybe that is not relevant in all cases, I couldn't tell. But I've heard no reaction from the Russian side to this so perhaps you are right. They certainly didn't take very kindly to Greece handing over their S-300s to Ukraine even though Greece is trying to do it coverttly and pretend they haven't.

Pretty cute to think paper rules will stop a transfer. Hahahahaha…

I don't think it is, soviet union collapsed in 91, I think the 31m was after that

@@k.h.1587 In that case it's big radar is probably better at giving you cancer than drtecting anything.

Neither Czechoslovakia nor Yugoslavia existed by 1992. You're confusing them with ex-soviet republics which did such things with their air forces. Matter of fact, ex-Yu countries were buying those aircraft from ex-Soviets, not selling them in the middle of bloody wars. Most notably Croatia, who got around 40 of those MiG-21s.

@@doimus Sorry but you could not be more wrong! Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were not part of the USSR or ex-soviet republics but independant (communist/socialist pre 1989-90) countries. They were part of the warsaw pact however. Every ex-communist euro country post 1990 was like a giant military surplus store. Short of ships, everything was for sale. Even in thrift markets in the middle of Moscow you could find what you wanted! Getting it passed airport security and customs was an other story!

@@fredericlepeltier3435 You've misinterpreted my comment, I've never mentioned them being Soviet republics. Also, Yugoslavia was never a member of Warsaw pact. But Yu itself dissolved in a series of rather messy wars in the 90s and now independent states were in fact *buying* weapons, not selling. Croatia bought most of its 40+ MiG21s from ex-Soviet republics. It also bought most of its transport and attack helicopters from Russia, through Ukraine, Mi-8s brand new in 1993 (and "returned" back to Ukraine just a few months ago). Never sold anything of that. Serbia even less. Macedonia also bought quite a few Mi24s and Su25s from Ukraine. Point is: nobody ex-yu sold anything to anyone in that period. Croatian Migs were cannibalized for thirty years, winding down to only 8 in flying condition, down from more than 40, and are finally being replaced by Rafale as we speak.

MiG21s are still in use in India and Pakistan, having shot down F16s. They are much faster than F35s.

​@@user-nu7kk4uw6k The lesson since Vietnam is that fighters almost never fly much faster than mach 1 for any length of time in combat. For one thing, while a Mig-21s top speed exceeds that of an F-35, the (short-legged) Mig-21 could only maintain that speed for a minute or two (literally) before running low on fuel. That is why post Gen4 fighters don't emphasize top speed and don't make the sacrifices necessary to get a high top speed. It just isn't useful. As far as Mig-21s shooting down F-16s, I am not familiar with the conflict but could imagine that happening. Of course, a well flown F-16 would consistently eat up a Mig-21 in a "fair fight" but there are lots of "unfair fights" in the air and otherwise.

It has gotten so ridiculous that one might be forgiven if he believes China, Russia and the islamists have already found a way to control the comment section of videos. 😩

A Nobel awaits whoever first unravels the logic of their deletions.

@@rainieresguerra6519 Close. Try Israel.

I remember when u could curse and say what u wanted its youtube. Then society got involved and these puritanical ideals

There is a company called the IRA (not the Irish one) in St Petersburg. The Kremlin gets the 100+ workers to create propaganda and misinformation online. It isn't hard to delete reply comments by clicking the 3 dots and choose misinformation or hate speech etc...

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$20k was actually the price for the Discovery Flight.

It's a plane, not a car

These are super old, their airframes are probably not even airworthy anymore.

Like putting lipstick on a pig. Its still a pig.

@@Laerei strip it down to the airframe -> fix airframe -> replace everything russian with US parts -> reinstall all the panels -> test it