Thanks. Would love to know how that Radial unit works. It wasn't an option when we made this video.

​@@SeanPierceJohnson ​ I am picking it up tomorrow if I get lucky with the shipping. I have had good experiences with the Radial products (DI boxes) so.... my expectations are that it will be good. In a nutshell, it is a mic pre with bass and treble, and an fx loop that accepts guitar pedal level signals. In and out levels for the loop and a blend knob for the loop/dry. And it's $100 less then the Eventide Mixing Link, a similar product. What I liked about your demo is that it was not a bunch of stupid effects that can never be useful unless you are doing some freak out jam song and want to pretend you are Radiohead. Most often, we use compression, megaphone/distortion and delays (slapback and vocal throw effects). Getting delay to oscillate is fun, for the first 3 times you experience it, after that... meh.

Thanks. Yeah in the band I'm the one using the denser, more extreme effects. But when it comes to the vocals we want to keep it VERY specific and not get in the way of the vocal. Once the vocal gets lost, it's all over.

they are a lot of fun! what's on your board?

@@SeanPierceJohnson Sorry just read this: Mooer brown 3 micro preamp pedal SoulFood Blues Klon Overdrive copy Holy Grail Neo - Reverb Swollen pickle - Fuzz effects ARIA Analog overdrive And I just ordered Walrus reverb Hi fidelity I should arrive in February can’t wait

@@The_Penny_Seventeens awesome! I did demo the new Walrus verb. Don’t know if you checked that out yet but would love if you did. Cheers

I've seen them used on a keyboard as well, and bass effects on guitar and vice versa (Geezer Butler with his wah intro much?).

+RJW14 Phaser is running into Delay. Though our bassist modded the Small Stone to boost the output volume.

Cool :) I have it the other way around, so that each repeat gets a different part of the sweep. I run that with the small stone dialed in about a third of the way on the undeep setting.

the preamp outputs at Line Level which doesn't work optimally with the pedals, which are Instrument Level. The Keymaster handles impedance matching for proper leveling of the signal so you don't encounter signal-to-noise issues.

Well you'd have to convert line level to instrument level. There are newer, smaller convertor boxes out there.

@@SeanPierceJohnson Thank you...

Hey man, Sean here. That's a long way to go for what you want and still won't really do what you want. There are other options out there these days for getting mic level into guitar pedals. A guitar boost pedal still isn't going to give you the kind of signal you need to adequately amplify the mic for live use. You need the mic pre at least. But the thing is you need to convert the impedance of a balanced signal to an unbalanced signal. Everything on this board is meant to lower the signal-to-noise ratio as much as possible. A little hum on guitar is okay, but not on the human voice.

@@SeanPierceJohnson thanks that makes sense...so I tryd using my boss delay for practice/ rehearsal one day and that's when I found out that the singal gos weak ..so I started looking into it..what's the cheapest way to go at it if I may ask...my budget is about 180$ ... its just for practice/jamming purpose so I dont see my self getting a vocal pedal or keymaster of some sort...could I just use a simple preamp pedal ( if there is one) to do the trick..what do you recommend.. .thank you

+TheJadedTraveler Did you ever get an answer? I think the Preamp might be overkill, as the Pigtronix has INPUT and OUTPUT gain?

+TheJadedTraveler A mics output is still not hot enough to drive the effects unfortunately. We originally did not have the preamp and just used the Keymaster's Input and Output gain. It created too much unnecessary noise and didn't drive the effects in a pleasant manner. The preamp upped the signal enough to interact well with the guitar effects. The unit does impedance matching, but it still doesn't make up for gain staging.

+SeanPierceJohnson GREAT!! That is what I needed to know. Thank you Sean! :)

Wonder if you could use a reamping box to stay on the guitar side of gear

@@roman2374 yes, i think you could and should. Mic will go to reamp box, and then pedals and then di box.

still looking for a good one

@@SeanPierceJohnson I'm on my way to try a Voicetone T1

of course not. wired microphone would work in the exact same way

still haven't found the right vocal distortion

@@user-kj4nz5nx8x yeah, but most all pedals are sensitive to input level.