Supplementary video on how to install an HB Industries handguard on a CZ Scorpion. Please refer to the written instructions included with each handguard for complete details on parts, materials and torque specs.
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@PopcornFr3nzy6 жыл бұрын
I installed mine myself thanks to the help of this video. Because of my lack for attention to detail, I ran into a small problem. After about 30 rounds in, I noticed that the handguard was separating from the upper receiver. It was definately an 'Oh shit...' moment. It moved forward a good half inch leaving a noticeable gap, and thankfully I caught it before continuing to fire. My mistakes: I didn't tighten the block screw enough, so my lazy ass got out the torque wrench. Also, I used 242 threadlocker on the first install. I completely bamboozled that one, but I always learn from my mistakes. This firearm is the first that I've actually worked on, and it got a full HBi makeover thanks to their instructional videos. 1000 rounds later and we're still peachy.
@lexwaldez2 жыл бұрын
it's always nice to publish mistakes so others can learn from them without repeating
@SlangJeezy5 жыл бұрын
For anyone that owns the pistol model with the flash can, I used an allen wrench that snuggly fit inside the two notches and tapped it with a hammer. It released fairly easily. Also, HB industries' carbine barrel nut tool worked AMAZINGLY. Worth every penny.
@alphaoxyclean4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Not much info out there on the pistol model with the flash can. I was wondering if the HB industries carbine barrel nut tool was needed. Definitely going to order that. The stock sling mounts have been digging into my hands when manipulating the charging handle. I need to remove them and this will help.
@John.Angell2 жыл бұрын
I just replaced the trigger spring on my Scorpion as well as the charging handle, trigger, mag release and safety. The spring was a huge pain but your instructions were great. The rest were really easy. This'll be my next modification.
@RealCujo7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. I was a little concerned about how the forend would match up to the body of the firearm. Once again you guys knock it out of the park. Make it simple and quite honestly I think will improve the harmonics of the barrel in May improve accuracy. I'm excited to get the carbine hand guard and can't wait to see what you guys have next!
@dxpvxo7115 жыл бұрын
Im a fan. I love HB products for the scorpion
@doublecheeseburger17127 жыл бұрын
Great looking handgard!!!
@doolay19883 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks guys!
@jrossnjax7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! A+ instructional video👍 you guys are awesome! This was so helpful. Thx
@drobs72792 жыл бұрын
For those like me watching this video trying to figure out what Torx screw size wrench I need to remove my handguard, it's a T25 mentioned at 13:36 / 13:37.
@FandCCD4 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@1911colorado5 жыл бұрын
Is there a video that also deals with changing the pistol barrel to your micro barrel?
@benz61437 жыл бұрын
nice video
@reggie72504 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the side railing to mount on this specific hand guard?
@FPS_Bang3 жыл бұрын
What about that little piece that stick out and hold the muzzle break in place? I didn’t see you say anything about it. Will it be in the way?
@raddad05 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't we just use the charging handle right after removing it from the stock handguard into the new handguard? I saw that you took out and replaced a pin but didn't understand why this was necessary
@kd2213 жыл бұрын
as he mentioned, switching out the load spring inside to make it smoother with the provided spring from HB. If the original load spring is ok for you, you can keep it and don't need to take it out apart.
@DrCap244 жыл бұрын
What vice are you using? Thanks
@Sladeofdark4 жыл бұрын
hah! im the guy that has been emailing you about this for the last few days, and i find this OLD video with my EXACT model Scorpion being serviced. im such an idiot.
@ludovicdesreumaux14453 жыл бұрын
Hello Where can we find your products in Europe ? Still not shipping outside US ?...
@TheCONtwo6 жыл бұрын
Will an osprey 45 fit inside one of those rails? Like if I ran a rifle rail will the osprey fit?
@hb_industries6 жыл бұрын
@TheCONtwo great question, SiCo Osprey 9 and 45 will not fit inside of our handguards, but our 6.84" flat handguard shrouds were designed specifically with the Ospreys and their boosters in mind. With the Osprey installed, there is approx 1/8" gap to the face of the handguard from the back of the Osprey.
@BMWI-gk9wh4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the metal charging handle scraped this customers new metal handguard.
@WolfKingJS543 жыл бұрын
Can you put one for a micro in that size?
@TuffApe2 жыл бұрын
Does the hand guard come in battleship grey?
@kiman02 Жыл бұрын
Does the barrel nut need to be installed to cover the threads in the back?
@jdirt19827 жыл бұрын
What brand are those soft jaws ???
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
Bessey BV-NVJ Multi-Purpose Vise Jaws; believe that they are neoprene and fit vises up to 6" wide
@Throndl7 жыл бұрын
Any chance HB will offer these in FDE?
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
Yes, we are actually working on offering some of each style/configuration/length in FDE here in the next few months :-)
@ChinoEEE2 жыл бұрын
If I was to get this hand guard and install a micro barrel can I fit an omega9k suppressor in it ??
@hb_industries2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Omega9k tucks inside nicely. Omega 9k is approx 1.48" OD, our handguards are approx 1.57" ID.
@JabariHunt7 жыл бұрын
FDE version?
@DakotaDickerson5 жыл бұрын
Flat Dark Earth, it’s the color of the gun
@roguewear217 жыл бұрын
umm... :-) Nice Video!
@dwells35362 жыл бұрын
Man sucks that it’s not recommend to use the after market charging handle… I’m not sure where my stock charging handle is haha. Do you guys make a polymer after market charging handle? As always, great video! I did my very first aftermarket trigger swap/reduced weight spring on my scorpion following your guy’s video. 😄
@hb_industries2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! We do make an extended polymer charging handle, here is a link: hbindustries.net/store/shop/cz-scorpion-prostock-charging-handle/
@dwells35362 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries Awesome! Thanks! Happy holidays!
@dwells35362 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries quick question, I ordered the handguard and I am putting it on right now. Im at the end at the charging handle part and I’m not seeing the reduced weight wire spring/roll pin for the charging handle. I did order your after market polymer charging handle with the handguard, does your charging handle already come with the reduced weight spring? Another awesome video by the way! 👏 super easy to follow. Thanks for everything you guys do.
@hb_industries2 жыл бұрын
@@dwells3536 Short answer: you can use either the factory charging handle or any of ours, no reduced weight spring is needed. Long answer: We made this video in 2016 and since then have been able to update our handguard(s) to work with all known changing handle springs on the market. And we need to re-make this install video :-)
@dwells35362 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries Gotcha! Thanks for the quick reply. Loving the feel of this handguard so far.
@johnoravec1359 Жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you put the barrel nut back on?
@runlevelone7 жыл бұрын
You guys plan on having anything in stock soon? Tried to buy some stuff for my Scorpion and everything is out of stock. Had to go to a competitor.
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
@runlevelone - these handguards took us much longer to machine than anticipated, we are running around the clock right now trying to rebuild inventory and catch back up. Very sorry for the delay and hope that we will have the opportunity to earn your business again in the future :-)
@GunInsights7 жыл бұрын
Two questions: 1) Why does it say cut the barrel down to ~5" with the micro-handguard? Would a longer barrel affect functioning or is it just aesthetic? Are there any pics of the micro handguard with the OEM barrel? 2) Why not take the top of the rail out further (instead of copying the angle of the OEM)--since that would increase sight radius?
@captsam54 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old, but I just acquired a Scorpion S1 evo and will be doing this with one of your FDE handguards.. I already ordered a bunch of parts and am looking for the FDE Brace.. Cannot find one anywhere.. (01/01/2023) Question, Can you still use the under mount hand stop on the new handguard ? thx
@darrell252michelle Жыл бұрын
You get your gun on clearance from palmettostate?
@captsam54 Жыл бұрын
@@darrell252michelle No, looked up Gun deals and elsewhere, found it on Locked and Loaded for (removed) best price and the last day of the rebate w/ backpack and 2 mag promo from CZ... So I went for it.. especially in FDE...Now I warn you I already have almost 4 (hundred) extra HB parts ordered... Hopefully I can say that..
@darrell252michelle Жыл бұрын
Yes. I ordered mine when it was on clearance and the only color available was OD green. Next day the other colors went on clearance and was like fuck. So I got a brace and a timney trigger ordered. Awaiting everything to ship.
@hb_industries Жыл бұрын
The factory handstop is 1913/picatinny mount, our handgaurd is machined for MLOK. So, you will need to get a different handstop. But there are plenty of MLOK handstop options out there, and we like to recommend magpul # MAG608 as probably the most effective low cost handstop kit. For about $20 you get two different handstop pieces, and they fit such a wide range of handguards (ours and others). Its a nice little kit to keep around.
@captsam54 Жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries Thanks.. I did end up getting that particular handstop.
@StarPrism-bm3us Жыл бұрын
The instructions you supply with this hand guard it says to tighten the long screw to “80 in*lbs”. I assumed this wasn’t right the first time I tried but still followed those instructions and broke the screw. So I hope you guys see this and fix that on your later shipments to people.
@RTurbo915 ай бұрын
I was looking for this answer.. i tightened to 32in.lbs
@TemplarIRL4 жыл бұрын
Need to tack weld a socket to the end of that "tool" for the barrel nut... 0.0
@jaybird69092 жыл бұрын
So after heat gun and the tool. Nothing. Can’t get barrel nut off. Absolutely ridiculous smh. Anyone got any tips or tricks?
@johnbury36517 ай бұрын
Where did you get the roll pin that is installed after installing the charging handle? Was this removed when breaking down the original handgaurd or did you get this from somewhere else? Minute 24:33 in the video
@nihil912 жыл бұрын
Does this handguard fit on the airsoft scorpion evo replica?
@hb_industries2 жыл бұрын
We have heard that our handguards DO fit the ASG licensed replica
@nihil912 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries Thank you 😍
@hba81034 жыл бұрын
So from the factory.....the barrel isn't free floated?
@hb_industries4 жыл бұрын
From the factory, the polymer handguard is held in compression between the upper receiver and barrel nut near the muzzle. It does not "free float" the barrel.
@jair21892 жыл бұрын
On the website is has 2 options complete kit or shroud only but doesn't state the difference any help on that
@hb_industries2 жыл бұрын
"Complete Kit" is everything needed to install the handguard (incl. trunnion/mounting block and all hardware). "Shroud Only" is literally just the handguard shroud; this is useful when a customer would like to buy multiple length/size handguards for one Evo, normally to accommodate various muzzle devices or to shroud suppressors. So the "Shroud Only" option can help certain customers save a little coin, but it can also be confusing, and it is worth asking about. Great question.
@jair21892 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries thanks
@MultiShaun19897 жыл бұрын
can this be done to the airsoft version of the scorpion?
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
@MultiShaun1989 - No, unfortunately our handguards do not fit the current ASG airsoft Scorpion
@MultiShaun19897 жыл бұрын
HB Industries are there plans to make them? I'd absolutely love the carbine handguard.
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
Currently... no plans to make them. But we have customers with the ASG scorpions; and I just ordered a couple for the shop because they look like a ton of fun! We will look at what it would take to retrofit our handguards (and other parts) to the ASG chassis :-)
@MultiShaun19897 жыл бұрын
HB Industries sweet, keep us posted as I'd love to have one. you guys still make the handguard that has the recession for the hand grip? so not the uniform parallel one.
@SlangJeezy5 жыл бұрын
For anyone that owns the pistol model with the flash can, I used an Allen wrenches that snuggly fit inside the two notches and tapped it with a hammer. It released fairly easily. Also, HB industries' carbine barrel nut too worked AMAZINGLY. Worth every penny.
@homerhead23 жыл бұрын
Please make some more flat 6in FDE aluminum hand guards!
@hb_industries3 жыл бұрын
You got it! We are machining more right now, give us 2-3 weeks to finish them up :-)
@homerhead23 жыл бұрын
@@hb_industries got a notification that some where in stock yesterday. Placed an order instantly. Can’t wait to get it and instal it.
@joshuaamado5593 жыл бұрын
Flat diarrhea earth is the worst color for a weapon
@lexwaldez2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaamado559 You'd prefer pepto bismol pink?
@dwells35362 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaamado559 opinions are like assholes, every ones got one!
@akbuilder76267 жыл бұрын
I would weld that tool to a socket.
@stevenweede71844 жыл бұрын
Why not just use a socket? I get why the wrench might damage the finish. But, what knuckle dragging oaf can’t manage to remove a nut with a ratchet without damage??
@maoleivac4 жыл бұрын
que video eterno para quitar y poner 6 tornillos
@saltykrug4 жыл бұрын
Sexy grip. I'm awaiting a SB Tactical Side Folding Brace atm. May go with one of these later but really need a brace or stock first. Just wish I could put a buffer tube and regular stock on it without paying 200 bucks. I feel like my 2nd Amendment right is being infringed.
@schonkat1982 Жыл бұрын
Your right is being infringed? A bit of a snowflake, aren't ya?
@oncrx7 жыл бұрын
man, the charging handle must require the smallest ever roll pin punch. u guys should privide this punch!!
@hb_industries7 жыл бұрын
It is a very small punch, 1/16" or 1.5mm :-)
@Piklikr9 ай бұрын
I literally bent the tool trying to get this barrel off
@Deadmatt777 Жыл бұрын
What’s the point of switching to this
@natem18612 жыл бұрын
Good video, but play it at 1.25x speed.
@IntoleranceRecords3 жыл бұрын
*installation
@Yasmuraz4 жыл бұрын
This muzzle device can go straight to hell
@alexanderprom5093 жыл бұрын
Save yourself the time and get a Midwest industry socket and impact driver.
@meanman699211 ай бұрын
Pfft, loctite. Rocksett that crap! (Only if you never plan to remove)
@randomappalachian46354 жыл бұрын
Sponsored by Irwin. Making vices that appear on videos.
@ExecutiveGuardian2 жыл бұрын
Mine was put on by god himself cause nothing is working
@58spitfirerocker3 жыл бұрын
Just a warning to new owners, the handgaurd tool is made from soft steel. Making it easy to round the barrel nut. The tool fails and the flats mushroom under the load needed to break the loctite. HBI has some quality stuff but the tool is not an advisable purchase.
@hb_industries3 жыл бұрын
It sounds like your tool may have been heat treated incorrectly? We would be more than happy to replace it for you if needed? Please just call or email us and we will take care of you. Side note, it is important that the tool be completely engaged with the barrel nut when torque is applied. The two flats on the barrel nut are very easy to slip off when rotating and that can cause damage to both the tool and the nut.
@jdirt19827 жыл бұрын
I think today I'm just going to watch gun videos and of courses democrats crying over the election videos. They both bring me great joy and happiness.
@leecro837 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Joe! You and me alike. Crazy good times.
@JohnnyJTav3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something Broke @ ... 5:09
@mr.boshark83303 жыл бұрын
Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um.
@cottleful4 жыл бұрын
Let's make an attachment that turns a ratchet into a wrench......what the fuck lol?
@giantpune3 жыл бұрын
I take it you've never heard of crow's feet? Thats exactly what they are - wrench heads with a square hole in them so you can put them on a ratchet. They work places where a 6 or 12 point socket won't. They make them to use an existing ratchet handle so they can be smaller, use less material, and be cheaper. They are flexible because you can use a longer or shorter ratchet depending on how much room you have and how much leverage you need. I have several full sets of crows feet in my toolbox. And because they use my existing ratchet, I didn't end up buying 40 extra handles. On this scorpion, the barrel nut only has 2 flats. Its not a hex, so you can't use a socket on your ratchet to remove it. Instead, you use a crows foot or this tool.
@italianrelic3 жыл бұрын
To much work
@zacharycarter93413 жыл бұрын
Lmfao... I mean the dude overly explained the process but you've gotta be pretty dang lazy to say this is too much work..
@gerit10005 жыл бұрын
Um...um..um...um...um...um...
@jstriker6235 жыл бұрын
Um, ah, um?
@marcuschauvin70395 жыл бұрын
I dislike the handguard. The factory one is quite nice already.
@mari.be.867 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but this new part is absolutely wrong. 1) You replaced polymer for metal part? It's heavier and has poor thermal properties, metal accumulates heat. 2) You do not have the same color? It looks horrible :/ 3) Mounting a large metal block inside? Another additional weight and yet it will serve as a heat conductor. I would recommend rather agree with CZ to license and produce a modified front part of the same polymer and the same technology as CZ I am surprised that you were allowed to sell. I apologize for criticism, but the whole new front part seems to me unbalanced.
@apb28876 жыл бұрын
Mari B. 99.9% of the people that own a Scorpion will not be shooting full auto so the heat is pretty much a non issue, hundreds of guns have metal handguards. And as for the weight you are talking about a few measly ounces of difference. And as for you calling it "ugly", they make these handguards in black and FDE for those if us with flat dark earth Scorpions. Now the pros to this handguard, no more cheese grater, it's more rugged than the oem polymer, and it looks badass!
@DKsupreme694206 жыл бұрын
The block would actually work as a heat sink absorbing heat away from the hanguard