D-loops& Nocks EXPLAINED- The Pros and the Cons to several configurations

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10 ай бұрын

There’s several options out there for Nock and D-loop configurations. Each of them have reasons why they have been used over time. My experience is that some bows like certain types due to their cam systems but that doesn’t mean it’s the best option. In the video I walk you through the Pros and Cons to each of these set ups.

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@toddlymburner5783 10 ай бұрын

Would love a video on D loops lengths for different releases! I think it’s much needed!

@SouthMainAuto 10 ай бұрын

Great demonstration and love hearing your thoughts on the how's and why's 👍🏼

@josephstanczak4340 10 ай бұрын

perfect timing in releasing this video. Just about to setup a new set of strings. Thanks John!

@wrobo6122 10 ай бұрын

Thank you John for putting out really good informational videos!

@johnnewcomb5162 10 ай бұрын

Great job! John, Love the information, that you are putting out to help others.

@waynestevenson9613 10 ай бұрын

Thanks Dud! Solid information and a true accuracy killer! You da Man!

@thediscipledsportsman3114 10 ай бұрын

You can also tie a top nock-set in the middle of your d-loop top knot. This keeps the top d-loop knot from moving up or down, allows you to space the inside of that knot slight above the nock (slop space), and keeps the nock away from pinching against the harder serving material at full draw. It also allows for a consistent place for the top knot to seat when replacing the loop. It doesn’t address the knock being slightly higher than the middle of the loop though. But really the difference is just splitting hairs at that point.

@rbrink37 10 ай бұрын

I do a 4 knot under and 2 knot on top (nock set) standard D loop. Tried a few others and I like this one best (for me)

@jons7e 10 ай бұрын

One of my local shops always does the first one, only using the one brass nock below, and usually what happens is over time the d loop starts to pinch. Another local shop doesn't even use nock sets and ties d loops in the same spot. I think John's method is the best one, above and below, to ensure your tune is maintained and prevents nock pinch.

@nockonarchery 10 ай бұрын

Great tip!

@40beretta1 10 ай бұрын

I taking my bow in for a complete set of strings....I'll certainly make big inquires on the D loop set up.

@dxt6 10 ай бұрын

Nice, thank you

@tommurph4496 10 ай бұрын

Hi John, can you talk sometime about string stop positions and effects on arrow flight?

@christian_U81 10 ай бұрын

awesome :)

@michaelrebholz9843 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting and of course I did it all wrong... Great help with the learning curve, here. Kudos. Can I ask a stupid question please: how are these brass knocks removed from the string without damaging the serving or string itself? Is there a certain tool for that and or how is it done please? Thank you and waidmannsheil

@robertsophiea05 3 ай бұрын

I like to buy those no torque loops then instead of using as directed I girth hitch one end and then press the bow and run my string through a girth hitch on the other end of the torque loop. It looks like a d loop without any knots. It works out so that the serving on the premade loop interfaces with the release. I am not an expert but I think this might be the best way.

@phantomcruizer 24 күн бұрын

GRIV uses the torque less loop on his bows.

@michaelswenson8399 10 ай бұрын

One of the best things I’ve done is switch from the standard BCY 2mm 24 braided poly loop material to the BCY braided spectra 1.6mm 23 material. It’s way tougher and more pliable (more forgiving to release torque). One loop lasts me an entire season. Only con is it doesn’t melt as nice.

@robertdavis1102 10 ай бұрын

I use the same d-loop material. 23 is tough and doesn't stretch. The best way to melt your ball on the loop is not to fuzz it up. Just heat it up and let it melt then push it with your finger.

@waynestevenson9613 10 ай бұрын

@@robertdavis1102good tip!

@kennethrobie8789 10 ай бұрын

What preference do you recommend for old style single cam configurations?

@Eric-bh7jy 10 ай бұрын

What about one knock point on the bottom like the 1st example, but the top part of the D-loop does not touch the knock ( same amount of space as if you were to tie in another knock point on top like your like it. The archery shop I go to tied mine in that way

@darcywood4637 10 ай бұрын

Same

@joshmilligan9356 10 ай бұрын

My setup is a tied nock top and bottom also

@davefabian2942 10 ай бұрын

What’s your thoughts on rope releases? Saves wear and tear on the bow string

@Luke2002 10 ай бұрын

What’s that

@waynestevenson9613 10 ай бұрын

@@Luke2002a rope release is d-loop material attached directly to the release (uncommon to see on modern releases but still a few are sold) and near the cleat itself and is wrapped around the string (that has tied nocks or brass nocks) and is attached back to the cleat of the release. As you maintain pressure pulling back to full draw it is your d-loop. It was quite prevalent in the archery world of compounds to use this method of a direct attachment of your release to the string. Wrist releases of old were designed with caliper style jaws (hence: caliper release) for this reason and attached directly to the string below a rubber cushion that pushed up against the arrow nock that was being held in position on the string by a tied and/or brass nock. All of this was similar to the no torque or torque less d-loop. Hope that helps.

@aaronroberts2705 10 ай бұрын

Had to do one below on short axel to axel (28in) but not that I moved to 33in I do both so much better

@michaelvstheworld3680 10 ай бұрын

My D-loop weighs 650 grains w/ 19% FOC

@d500mag2 8 ай бұрын

I have to give credit where it is due, Dudley and Nock On are a big reason I started tuning my own bows. On the other hand, a question for Dudley. Does anybody else ever do anything right?

@JamesBond-oc4gm 10 ай бұрын

Showing how to adjust cables and string to get your bow back to spec would be nice. I just put new string and cables on mine, all the measurements are correct, but my poundage is 5lbs low. (Yes i did the twist cables and untwist string)

@nockonarchery 10 ай бұрын

Cool idea

@JamesBond-oc4gm 10 ай бұрын

@@nockonarchery thanks, and any help would be appreciated lol.

@tools4spoons 6 ай бұрын

This is topic I would like to get more info on. I bought a PSE EVO EVL 34, the ATA and brace height are both off. I’ve found very little info on this topic.

@darcywood4637 10 ай бұрын

Remember if you don't shoot a hundred yards this means nothing. I tie the first one and can stack a thre shot group in a pop can at 50

@elcidcampeador9629 10 ай бұрын

This video was 100% driven by the comments on the last nock video lol

@Terpedup925 10 ай бұрын

Dude!! Can you tune my bow for me pretty pretty please ??😂

@user-il9ip8no2o 10 ай бұрын

You don't have my favorite configuration- an empty d loop. I did all sorts of different saddles that shifted to each other, wore out, and caused a lot of problems.Then I gave it up and since then I forgot about all this By the way , a brass pin can fly into the eye one day .