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Primitive worm gear hobbing in a lathe

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Dalibor Farný

Dalibor Farný

12 жыл бұрын

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@audievickers132
@audievickers132 4 жыл бұрын
I've been a machinist for over 40 years and this is the first time I've seen anyone cut a gear with a tap. Well done, sir!
@alsalehahmadcom
@alsalehahmadcom 2 жыл бұрын
This is not a gear It's just a gear shape for fun
@kurosh2817
@kurosh2817 2 жыл бұрын
It has no module . Just a shape
@johnwhitty1236
@johnwhitty1236 2 жыл бұрын
@@alsalehahmadcom it's a worm gear
@christianscustoms6429
@christianscustoms6429 3 жыл бұрын
One of my coworkers explained this technique to me a few months back but this is the first time seeing it done. Really neat stuff, thanks for sharing
@manoelfavafilho9837
@manoelfavafilho9837 2 жыл бұрын
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@sledgenwedge
@sledgenwedge 3 жыл бұрын
Freaking beautiful I can't believe it's been 7 years and I haven't stumbled across this kind of machinist porn
@goldenmath4091
@goldenmath4091 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I love about engineering, your always learning, it puts a smile on your face It helps to start in a toolroom as you get to learn loads more And I can tell you I have met some very smart people over the years, who are greatly underrated Cheers
@andrevalente6794
@andrevalente6794 3 жыл бұрын
H6fff
@stephensmith799
@stephensmith799 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!
@alexray55
@alexray55 3 жыл бұрын
Well I doubt I will ever need a worm gear but you just opened my mind to a whole new area of machining ideas
@general5104
@general5104 5 жыл бұрын
Hidy. I've been doing machinist / tool & die and job-shop work all my life 60 +/- years...! and I've never seen, nor thought of; this concept! Thank you, SO MUCH, for demonstrating this concept! And thanks for making this video! It blew this old man's mind...!
@ajayindia6608
@ajayindia6608 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. ...good video....my name is ajay I am in Indian. ..
@unaffected_covid
@unaffected_covid 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I respect the brush off verses the air nozzle for a more controlled interim clean up job. Good insight.
@emdae921
@emdae921 3 жыл бұрын
I agree a lot with the "Brush off" instead of air, i cant remember why but i was told it can be dangerous too by my tech teacher in high school.
@davidmunro2077
@davidmunro2077 3 жыл бұрын
The risks are air embolism with air lines also chips being blown into eyes or other places where you don't want them to be they can destroy DRO scales
@mitchellboutte1857
@mitchellboutte1857 2 жыл бұрын
Been in machine shops since 16 I'm 53 now and it's the first time I've seen this. Goes without saying you can always learn more. Thanks that was cool 😎
@Luftbubblan
@Luftbubblan Жыл бұрын
Interesting how many professionals have not seen this done. Iv'e never touched a lathe and iv'e now seen it done multiple times. How else would one do this? Or is it just lack of interest of this specific product that makes you guys not see how this is done?
@williamstyers4264
@williamstyers4264 5 жыл бұрын
When working for my uncles in their small shop we used to manufacture small worm gears for a company that used 1/2-13 threaded rod to make their worms. We cut the gears on a Barber-Coleman #3 gear hobbing machine using a 1/2-13 tap. Obviously you need to calculate the proper diameter of the gear blank but using only the downfeed of the machine it produced beautiful throated worm gears by the hundreds. Nice video.
@user-ec3ij6mt3p
@user-ec3ij6mt3p 5 жыл бұрын
how to fix the gear diameters For the screw of pitch?
@williamstyers4264
@williamstyers4264 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-ec3ij6mt3p We converted the 1/2-13 UNC threaded rod to the comparable diametral pitch which is 40.83 DP. Using standard worm gear calculations for the 100 tooth gear (number of teeth/diametral pitch) give a value of 2.449 inches for the pitch diameter. The worm gear in this case was throated so standards call for the throat diameter to be the pitch diameter + (2 X addendum). As this was a non-critical application we chose to treat the addendum as one half of the whole depth of the thread (in this case .0472 inches) and add that to the pitch diameter. The outside diameter of the worm gear is pitch diameter + (3 X addendum) so the finished bronze gear blank ended up being 2.520 inches. OD = PD + (3 X addendum) Hope this was not too confusing.
@stevetaylor7530
@stevetaylor7530 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamstyers4264 o
@GpunktHartman
@GpunktHartman 4 жыл бұрын
A vacuumcleaner will be helpfull ☝️🧐😉
@VinodSharma-dr8pv
@VinodSharma-dr8pv 4 жыл бұрын
std. sizie of 1/2 "bsw thread is 12 thread in a inch.
@hedgehog_pet
@hedgehog_pet 3 жыл бұрын
Спасибо Ютуб что не даёшь скучать ночью! 🤣🤣 Это самое необходимое видео восмилетней давности. 🤣
@oleksandrkarpenko3884
@oleksandrkarpenko3884 3 жыл бұрын
))))
@garri2002
@garri2002 3 жыл бұрын
Ага,и мне в рекомендациях попал😁
@user-eh7cb3qi2y
@user-eh7cb3qi2y 3 жыл бұрын
@@garri2002 и мне😁
@glynluff2595
@glynluff2595 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! It is also interesting to note the 50 cycle strobe from presumably fluorescent lighting which is why tungsten machine lighting is favoured. Excellent ingenuity!
@sanyaelektrik3497
@sanyaelektrik3497 3 жыл бұрын
Надо было уточнить еще, что диаметр заготовки должен четко подходить под шаг резьбы, иначе на 2 круге новая резьба испортит старую
@fffffoxik
@fffffoxik 3 жыл бұрын
Дак резьбы на внутреннем диаметре и нет , её съело.
@user-ow6eu1dj1v
@user-ow6eu1dj1v 3 жыл бұрын
@@fffffoxik да ты не понял.
@ilsur16
@ilsur16 3 жыл бұрын
Скорее не диаметр, а длина окружности была кратна шагу резьбы.
@user-ii1qo1qb4n
@user-ii1qo1qb4n 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilsur16 вот вот
@user-yw1mu2qu2l
@user-yw1mu2qu2l 3 жыл бұрын
Зависит углубление
@yee11111
@yee11111 10 жыл бұрын
Primitive??? I've been a machinist for 20 years and have never seen such madness. Nor would I have ever thought of it. I'm gonna have to try it myself in the near future. Thanks for posting.
@grimpo3310
@grimpo3310 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Did you (or somebody) tried the same with trapezoid tap? When I found this video, I realized this could be the way to make my own thread chasing dial gear.
@attilacsizmadia9419
@attilacsizmadia9419 3 жыл бұрын
Hogy jön ki az osztás milyen kerületen jönnek ki a fogak?
@derangedspyder
@derangedspyder 3 жыл бұрын
@Ol' Camo Somemthing that I have figured out over the yers is that there are many different kinds of machinist. You have folks that make one off parts, they tend to have tight tolerances and can take more time to achieve prefection and people that are what I call production machinists who focus more on speed and just stay between the linse as perfection only adds cost. I find that someting these two groups but heads a bit. There is also a line between manual and CNC machinists or even mill and lathe machinists, they to can be a bit tribal. Point is that if your making parts for a living your a machinist hell you could only use a file to make em and still call yourself a machinist the only real question is are you a good one and even that could be subjective.
@crazyfingers_kc
@crazyfingers_kc 3 жыл бұрын
@@derangedspyder I'm a "one off, tight tolerance, CNC Lathe machinist". We tend to get along with everyone, lol
@Gabor927
@Gabor927 2 жыл бұрын
@@attilacsizmadia9419 Menetemelkedés + kör kerület
@sebastiannielsen
@sebastiannielsen 3 жыл бұрын
An important thing is that this requires the circumference of the gear to be evenly divisible with the thread spacing on the tap - else you get overlapping threads in the gear.
@sy-xv7xs
@sy-xv7xs Жыл бұрын
That's what I was going to ask. If its a 1mm pitch tap the circumference of disc should not be decimal point. Should this be at the start of machining or what?
@RemyMartinVSOP
@RemyMartinVSOP 4 жыл бұрын
As a full time Machinist I love watching these videos I never tire of engineering always fascinated and by what you can learn too. Thank you
@kerrywallace2236
@kerrywallace2236 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I have done stuff on lathes that would baffle most machinists, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen done on a lathe! Great job!
@LookingGlass69
@LookingGlass69 2 жыл бұрын
Such as?
@whistle3man
@whistle3man 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. I have been in the machining trade for well on 35 years and this is the first time I have seen this. Great job. I'll be trying this one myself.
@antoniocolmenarezcolmenare9462
@antoniocolmenarezcolmenare9462 2 жыл бұрын
Buenos en 43 años que llevo veo esto muy bien pero seria para el puro bronce porque dañar esa macho como llamamos aqui en venezuela en hierro no vale la pena pero me gusto la demostracion muy buena se haria en bronce y en aluminio jajajajaja
@VijayC59
@VijayC59 4 жыл бұрын
The gear pitch and circumference ratio should match, or else the meeting point at the end of first round will not match...
@claytonchristophersen1633
@claytonchristophersen1633 3 жыл бұрын
@@sinisterhipp0 I came looking for the answer here to so the round has to be the correct size , or you will have to watch until the threads come together .
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 3 жыл бұрын
This is what's great about this channel... you never know what you're going to get.... sometimes electronics.... sometimes chemistry... today some lathe work.... :)
@jamessimpson5296
@jamessimpson5296 5 жыл бұрын
WHERE there is a need-----THANKYOU. I repair antique and classic auto parts for a living. Worm gears are used on window regulators and windshield wiper motors. THIS is a fantastic technique that puts repairs back into my hands. Thankyou, Jim Simpson ODD Parts Fabrication.
@WojciechP915
@WojciechP915 11 жыл бұрын
Why did I never think of this? This is brilliant. I'm off to buy some standard acme taps now.
@NoStressVanLife
@NoStressVanLife 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what you just made, or why I watched a 9 min video on it, but holy crap well done. That's damn clever. New use for taps.
@ApolloVR6
@ApolloVR6 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. And you can use a bolt with a matching thread pitch as the tap for your worm gear. Which im sure you know. Very nice
@fionbarraomuiri1458
@fionbarraomuiri1458 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it the lathe is still running nonstop for 7 years .
@astaschak
@astaschak 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's nifty. The engineers are always asking us to do nutty things with little to no proper tooling. Always good to learn something new. This is going to be categorized under what I call "old guy tricks" I've learned many many things like this from guys close to retirement many who I have since replaced at various jobs over the years. Also handy if I ever need a small worm gear made at home with my little hobby lathe. I'm sure I could figure it out.
@williammielenz3752
@williammielenz3752 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Reminds me of the time I cut a 90 tooth gear with a 24 fixed position indexing head.
@sirnikkel6746
@sirnikkel6746 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody: KZfaq: *Ah, yes, perfect time to recommend to everyone a 2012 video about gearmaking.*
@jozefnovak7750
@jozefnovak7750 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastické niečo! Ste skutočný majster svojho remesla! Ďakujem!
@DanielSmith-sk9ot
@DanielSmith-sk9ot 5 жыл бұрын
This is soooo cool. This is the first time I've seen this done like this. I want to buy lathe so bad
@bennyedmondson1307
@bennyedmondson1307 4 жыл бұрын
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@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 4 жыл бұрын
Yep ditto that, add me to that list.
@dwightcheck
@dwightcheck 8 жыл бұрын
great job man! thanks for not droning on like those that like to hear themselves talk.
@lordphullautosear
@lordphullautosear 3 жыл бұрын
Out-f**kin-standing!! I would have never thought of using that setup to cut a gear...and yet, with the center keeping the tap from deflecting, it makes perfect sense. I'm amazed by your machining cleverness.👍👍👍
@lu3fy
@lu3fy 7 жыл бұрын
I made a 350 teeth alu worm wheel for astro use some years back.I paid great attention to perpendicularity and to keep vibrations under control.I used a ball bearing cell which the toothwheel rotated on, i fed aprox. 1/3 of the diameter of the actual taper(cutter) and technical alcohol as lubricant.No oil when working with alu!
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 5 жыл бұрын
Should be using paraffin or similar when cutting aluminium. WD40 works pretty well.
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 7 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how we make the filament feed roller in home made 3D printers.
@TheWreckingYard
@TheWreckingYard 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting technique, I've been wanting to try exactly that myself, nice to see it successfully done. Congratulations!
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer Жыл бұрын
Don't knock the method if you haven't tried it, because it works very well. For a more robust gear, use an ACME thread tap! Or even better, make a properly proportioned involute (straight-sided teeth!) hob. Relief is only required on the tooth OD. The concern with this method is getting the right number of teeth, as the number can vary by +/- one tooth. To make an accurate worm gear with the required tooth count, such as I made for an indexing head, gashing of the teeth will be required with very accurate spacing and depth of the individual gashes. This would be followed by the Free Hobbing process, where the gear blank turns freely, driven by the hob itself. Worked out very well for me.
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 9 жыл бұрын
i saw this video years ago and thought it was very cool. then needed to make a worm gear and couldn't find the video to set up my lathe. it's getting down loaded this time. thanks for sharing.
@billybowbob2071
@billybowbob2071 3 жыл бұрын
How would you ensure that the point where the threads meet on the new piece are equal to the rest of the threads? It seems as you cut deeper into the material, the point where the threads are cut at the deepest point may not be equal given the circumference. In essence, the point where the new teeth begin to be cut off by the tap
@MrJackandEmily
@MrJackandEmily 6 жыл бұрын
What the?! I wouldnt thought of that in a million years.. Brilliant.
@haroldbullock505
@haroldbullock505 2 жыл бұрын
I expect to see more views excellerating . Truly this is absolute madness sir !
@paulmoffat9306
@paulmoffat9306 6 жыл бұрын
I used the same method to make 12" worm gears for my telescope, using 1/4" 6061-T6 Alm plate on a 6" lathe. The key, is to have the center bore first, the hob the teeth. As I was not after a specific number of teeth, I just hobbed until full depth was reached, and no partial teeth remain.
@yves2348
@yves2348 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of the same problem, that solves it, thanks !
@grecco_buckliano
@grecco_buckliano 5 жыл бұрын
A nice volume knob for the old hi-fi.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know about primitive. That's pretty good.
@marksmopar609
@marksmopar609 3 жыл бұрын
I like these machinists videos because there's no politics involved and I'm actually learning some tricks.
@tobiasgertz7800
@tobiasgertz7800 3 жыл бұрын
Primitive? No. Perhaps novel. It's the same thing all Craftsmen of any trade have ever done. Force a rigidly held form tool into a ridgedly held workpiece. We machinist just like to spin things to get more complex functions. This was a beautiful video. Thank you!
@ahmedeljirari7772
@ahmedeljirari7772 3 жыл бұрын
4:16 The sound became like the sound of a car engine 😂. The important thing is a good job, my brother. Keep with you your brother Ahmed from Morocco 👍
@kobiroar4221
@kobiroar4221 7 жыл бұрын
Love the work you do on the lathe m8, old school yes but you know what your doing. Keep the vids coming
@paolocasagrande6461
@paolocasagrande6461 5 жыл бұрын
kobiroar
@DanielAguilar-ws2qd
@DanielAguilar-ws2qd 5 жыл бұрын
Que es, para que sirve lo qie hizo,alguien sabe.
@inventor1978
@inventor1978 2 жыл бұрын
I know you through a friend who is a member of mine, thank you for Sharing these great videos
@rameshtripathy5978
@rameshtripathy5978 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea for meeting the requirement of small gear pensions & This is very much helpful to manufacturers without having a expensive gear cutting machine !
@christophershane1771
@christophershane1771 3 жыл бұрын
The accuracy of this has got to be dead on for those threads to match the OD , like knurling . Very neat 👌🏻😬
@poopcow32
@poopcow32 3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking the od and the pitch just would have to be divisible into a whole number
@burkhardkurfiss3015
@burkhardkurfiss3015 3 жыл бұрын
I’d probably end up with 63-1/2 teeth🤣
@groofromtheup5719
@groofromtheup5719 3 жыл бұрын
@@poopcow32 I'd think circumference at worm center divided by screw pitch would need to be a whole number.
@trentonjennings9105
@trentonjennings9105 3 жыл бұрын
I assume calculations are needed to ensure you cut a whole number of grooves on each rotation given the radius, thread pitch, etc.
@rayrudolph6382
@rayrudolph6382 3 жыл бұрын
Very simple calculation based on OD, number of teeth and pitch of the teeth/thread. ODxDP-2=Z or PD+2 Addendum.
@soklot
@soklot 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayrudolph6382 what
@reyspec
@reyspec 3 жыл бұрын
@@soklot MHB my friend... MHB...
@user-yp2sc1vx8t
@user-yp2sc1vx8t 5 жыл бұрын
Производительность зашкаливает. Колесо из бронзы за 8 минут это да. С наступающим днем машиностроения всех!!!
@GraemeSPa
@GraemeSPa 3 жыл бұрын
I started my apprenticeship in 1969 , got into the advanced machine shop 1974 and was shown this technique then. Old Hat - long before CAD and CNC.
@453421abcdefg12345
@453421abcdefg12345 9 жыл бұрын
This is a very good way of making a Worm & Gear, the really neat thing is it always seems to sort itself out as regards pitch, or at least it always has for me, I have used this method on a wide variety of sizes, always works.
@humbertoortegasalas1548
@humbertoortegasalas1548 5 жыл бұрын
Sanación por imanes
@Slowtopcat
@Slowtopcat 5 жыл бұрын
Were you making a new worm + wheel system or doing a repair for a current system ? And can you always use a tap or do they make specialist cutting tools for this ?
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 5 жыл бұрын
@Dustin Eward Knurling seems to be really hard on bits. But yeah, somehow it magically sorts itself out and looks good even after bad math, lol.
@tomlook3080
@tomlook3080 7 жыл бұрын
using this method you are machining the gear with varying pitch diameter because you are using the cross feed. What I did was to machine the od of the blank with a groove matching the id of the tap and a circumference which is a multiple of the pitch of the tap, Then bring it in with cross feed onto the end of the taper of the tap. Then use the saddle to feed the gear onto the tap. The cut is done always at the same diameter on the wheel.
@rominhawk3949
@rominhawk3949 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please suggest a video of this method? Thanks.
@jforrestal365
@jforrestal365 4 жыл бұрын
This is the better way to do it and more akin to how commercial gears are made
@paulk3573
@paulk3573 Жыл бұрын
@@rominhawk3949 Hello sir, I read your comment with interest. I am passionate about this subject, so have you managed to get more information or have you done some trials leading to success. For my part, I am looking for the method allowing to obtain a precise number of teeth on the crown, for example: 40dts and not 41 or 43 dts. In addition, not understanding English, I do not master his method. Could you answer me please. P.K.
@paulk3573
@paulk3573 Жыл бұрын
@@jforrestal365 Hello sir, I read your comment with interest. I am passionate about this subject, so have you managed to get more information or have you done some trials leading to success. For my part, I am looking for the method allowing to obtain a precise number of teeth on the crown, for example: 40dts and not 41 or 43 dts. In addition, not understanding English, I do not master his method. Could you answer me please. P.K.
@pedrotondamartinez9671
@pedrotondamartinez9671 6 жыл бұрын
Completamente de acuerdo, el bronce en sus distintos porcentajes de aleación permite ser mecanizado sin añadir lubricante debido a la estructura que forman, los metales y los no metales, permitiendo que el arranque de viruta requiera poco esfuerzo por parte de la herramienta . Por otro lado la fundición, posee intersticiones de grafito, que es un lubricante natural
@donepearce
@donepearce 2 жыл бұрын
Takes me right back to the sound of steam trains when I was a lad.
@HanstheTraffer
@HanstheTraffer 5 жыл бұрын
Now I will never buy a gear motor again. Just make my own reduction gears! THANK YOU!
@barryporteous4904
@barryporteous4904 5 жыл бұрын
In use a spiral tap because it keeps constant contact during the start phase. Good video thanks for posting.
@BasementEngineer
@BasementEngineer 2 жыл бұрын
The gear hobbing set-up described herein is neither new nor primitive. In fact it is described in the bible of milling machines, published by the Cincinati Milling Machine Company in the middle of the last century. The basic set-up is named free-hobbing, and is useful only for worm gears. When cutting small gears by this method, it is best to make 3 or 4 gear blanks because the number of teeth produced may vary by +/- 1 tooth! This may be ok for some purposes, but if an accurate gear with a certain number of teeth is required, the process needs a little refinement. I've used this refined method to hob a worm gear for a small indexing head, which turned out very well indeed.
@EdgarFriendly17
@EdgarFriendly17 4 жыл бұрын
Tak tohle je hodně cool. Pěkná práce! Skvělý návod pro domácí hobby práce na soustruhu!
@daliborfarny
@daliborfarny 11 жыл бұрын
Hello! I think other taps with thread and pitches could be used, the smaller pitch the easier work.. I needed as big pitch as possible for that gear, so I use M12.. The only trouble is to count diameter of the gear accurately to have the teeth evenly placed, without a gap..
@idriskeskin1305
@idriskeskin1305 4 жыл бұрын
Teşekur ler çok iyi geldı
@Mspindare
@Mspindare 4 жыл бұрын
You lost me the second I saw the IKEA crescent wrench. :40
@arturodiaz5007
@arturodiaz5007 4 жыл бұрын
Saber
@benniethejew
@benniethejew 4 жыл бұрын
I assume that he must have had to assemble it.
@Andy-Against-The-World
@Andy-Against-The-World 4 жыл бұрын
We all have tools we bought on impulse or it was the only place open when you really really needed a tool
@timjohnson1199
@timjohnson1199 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I saw that and I thought I must have been mistaken.
@Very__Bad__Girl
@Very__Bad__Girl 3 жыл бұрын
So?!! It's a tool that gets the job done. That's all that matters.
@simonklaus7777
@simonklaus7777 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I've seen many craftsmen but most of them are like limited robots I'm glad to see such success!
@JosephLorentzen
@JosephLorentzen 7 жыл бұрын
in 50 years around machines this is only the third time I have seen this method. thanks
@darrenwright1040
@darrenwright1040 9 жыл бұрын
Cool way of doing it and you only need a bolt for a worm.
@groofromtheup5719
@groofromtheup5719 3 жыл бұрын
A bolt for a worm means much more side thrust on the worm.
@user-kd9yh8zl8w
@user-kd9yh8zl8w 5 жыл бұрын
этод метод был описан в 1977 году вжурнале Радио я сам тогда же им пользовался !
@romanzavodin6461
@romanzavodin6461 5 жыл бұрын
Константин, раньше. Я такой способ видел в какой-то технической книге 70-72 года выпуска. Там же и приводились формулы для расчета наружного диаметра нарезаемой втулки в зависимости от шага резьбы. Они несложные и понятные. К сожалению это некая эрзац червячная передача. Подобие.)))) Для несильно нагруженых механизмом пойдет.
@user-yz1fu9hw4l
@user-yz1fu9hw4l 5 жыл бұрын
НОРМАЛЬНО ПОЛУЧИЛОСЬ?
@Mahout_81
@Mahout_81 5 жыл бұрын
Да , когда то в СССР были инженеры.
@zmeecrabevich8778
@zmeecrabevich8778 5 жыл бұрын
Зачем это нужно?
@dimalobanov9285
@dimalobanov9285 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mahout_81 Ну да. А теперь только нытики и диванные эксперты в интернете
@gonzo5912
@gonzo5912 3 жыл бұрын
I used to do this decades ago, as a Machinist I have done many jobs and a few times i made my own pillow blocks for inline portable boring in the field for heavy equipment repair. I made these big and small for perfect machine radius`s, I made fixtures to hold high speed or insert tooling.
@forrestgumpv9049
@forrestgumpv9049 2 жыл бұрын
There are machinists and then there are another breed of Machinists who always think outside the box on Everything. 😁
@isakblnk6793
@isakblnk6793 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea. Thank you for posting the video. I learned something new today.
@sorstudios
@sorstudios 11 жыл бұрын
There's NOWAY someone disliked this video. HE DID IT! AWESOME thanks for sharing.
@justtim7334
@justtim7334 6 жыл бұрын
pos
@jon_byler
@jon_byler 4 жыл бұрын
3000 idiots out there.
@antoniolorentejuberias2581
@antoniolorentejuberias2581 7 жыл бұрын
el broce y fundicion gris y materiales anti desgaste no se lubrifican al cortarlos se trabajan en seco y se cortan mejor
@tedhajduk3745
@tedhajduk3745 6 жыл бұрын
antonio lorente juberias i
@adrianocazzola9314
@adrianocazzola9314 5 жыл бұрын
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@user-rj2tt5gm2m
@user-rj2tt5gm2m 5 жыл бұрын
@@adrianocazzola9314 、
@joaquimoliveira1577
@joaquimoliveira1577 5 жыл бұрын
Mk ok l
@feruztoshev2054
@feruztoshev2054 5 жыл бұрын
antonio lor ente juberias
@energyenergy2199
@energyenergy2199 4 жыл бұрын
That's fantastic job
@erhardpostinger1326
@erhardpostinger1326 5 жыл бұрын
Ich habe schon mehrere Videos zu diesem Thema gesehen, aber dieses ist ein Augen- und Ohrenschmaus: wunderschön anzusehen und die reinen Werkgeräusche erfreuen mich ganz besonders, weil sie nicht durch irgendeine Hintergrund-"Musik" verdorben wurden.
@adibasmara
@adibasmara 6 жыл бұрын
using a screw tap, never thought about it before
@sushilkumar7813
@sushilkumar7813 6 жыл бұрын
Adib Asmara ytfvvhsn
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 8 жыл бұрын
Nice! Terrifically easy to do. I'd put a mark on the blank to guide me when to do the next in-feed. Other than that, this is a total win.
@index7787
@index7787 6 жыл бұрын
ExtantFrodo2 there was a mark ^_^
@kfossa344
@kfossa344 5 жыл бұрын
“Great job! I would have done this because I’m perfect. However, you’re not. Nice effort!
@johnwhitty1236
@johnwhitty1236 2 жыл бұрын
It's doesn't work ;like that
@timhofstetter5654
@timhofstetter5654 3 жыл бұрын
Five minutes in you realize that your worm is left-handed. 8)
@theupscriber65
@theupscriber65 3 жыл бұрын
Wow wow wow! Former tool maker/machinist and steel machining engineer here. I can die now, happy that I've now seen it all!
@FuXOuT
@FuXOuT 5 жыл бұрын
At 4:04 i imagined somebody playing thunderstruck, but it didn'happen :( Very nice anyway! :D
@user-hy7tb5xs3o
@user-hy7tb5xs3o 6 жыл бұрын
Интересно. Но как же совпадение зубъев. На разных диаметрах при обработке разное количество зубъев. Нужно ли подсчитывать деаметр заготовки шестерни ?
@LOMAN008
@LOMAN008 6 жыл бұрын
расчет как для обычной прямозубой шестерни, проще выражать через шаг
@user-qx9uv7rn3l
@user-qx9uv7rn3l 5 жыл бұрын
Не подсчитывать, а рассчитывать. Конечно же нужно. Есть специальные формулы. Токаря это знают.
@user-hy7tb5xs3o
@user-hy7tb5xs3o 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-qx9uv7rn3l я тонкостей фрезерного дела не знаю-подсчитывать или рассчитывать, а предполагаю что нужно рассчитывать.
@LOMAN008
@LOMAN008 5 жыл бұрын
Только не токаря, а фрезеровщики. Работа для зубофрезерного станка, просто в данном случае в качестве фрезы - метчик, а фрезеровка выполняется на токарном станке
@Bogdanbagdan
@Bogdanbagdan 5 жыл бұрын
2πR/ на шаг резьбы метчика
@jameslee4946
@jameslee4946 4 жыл бұрын
You did a good job, the lathe is mother of all machine, I was a master machinist in Boeing co.
@bobordewald1367
@bobordewald1367 5 жыл бұрын
cool idea, not fancy but it will make cool toys for the grandkids!
@pignatari48
@pignatari48 10 жыл бұрын
Clever use of a screw tap. I myself have 35 years of mechanics and never had seen this trick. But you had to calculate the primitive diameter of the blank, to get it right. Maybe using a tap with spiral grooves the cut is smoother?
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 10 жыл бұрын
Any diameter will be fine as you will just grind it until everything fits, if you chose wrong diameter you will just need more time. also he is not moving everything up down so he got worm gear.
@9sec93lx
@9sec93lx 10 жыл бұрын
Blank diameter is figured as follows: (thread pitch) x teeth number desired divided by Pi (3.1416). Example if you used a 1/2 x 13 tap and wanted a 72 tooth gear. Ex: .0769" Thread Pitch x 72 teeth = 5.5368 divided by Pi = 1.762"
@pignatari48
@pignatari48 10 жыл бұрын
Best Racing Tips Win At The Dragstrip Now we have blank diameter rightly calculated. Thanks.
@pignatari48
@pignatari48 10 жыл бұрын
registered. thanks.
@jaxxbrat2634
@jaxxbrat2634 7 жыл бұрын
mauritor mayb not so critical as the cut deepens..
@gordonburns6721
@gordonburns6721 8 жыл бұрын
Good job, but now you need a spindle to the same pitch... OK, I get it... a screwed shaft to the same pitch as the tap! Not perfect but near enough for light work! Brilliant!
@BoldUniverse
@BoldUniverse 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, although brass needs no lubricant and using such can, and did, cause the chips to stick to both the tap and the work piece causing issues. I saw you were using a brush to deal with the chips sticking to the brass gear; that's not necessary if you don't use lubricant. Also the tap, as with any tools used on brass, needs to be brand new and sharp, i.e. never used on steel. This advice comes from a Trade Qualified Fitter and Turner (Mechanical Engineer). Great job, great vid :).
@jamesbaumann1180
@jamesbaumann1180 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Have not seen that done before.
@Igotknobblies
@Igotknobblies 6 жыл бұрын
Pure luck if after 1 rev, the teeth marks matched up. You could end up with half teeth and machine everything off. Good idea but for accurate work ie meshing gears, the work piece has to be driven in synch with the cutter.
@webtoedman
@webtoedman 6 жыл бұрын
Igotknobblies The method demonstrated is called free bobbing. The workpiece is forced to rotate by the helix angle on the flank of the cutter. Works fine for light power transmission, probably not consistent enough for accurate positioning.
@Igotknobblies
@Igotknobblies 6 жыл бұрын
webtoedman yes, I quite understand the theory behind free hobbing, like I said, it's pure luck if the first and last tooth of the revolution of the workpiece are a perfect tooth distance apart, and like I said, if they're out by 50%, you could end up chopping all the teeth off.
@PaintHerWhite
@PaintHerWhite 6 жыл бұрын
Igotknobblies Unless he calculated the diameter exactly.
@EJaunez
@EJaunez 6 жыл бұрын
PaintHerWhite but wich diameter the initial or the final? I think he calculated the initial, because the center of the gear seems a little flat than the borders.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 5 жыл бұрын
Igotknobblies Except it’s a well known and understood process. You are the one without a clue here.
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 5 жыл бұрын
Well, you lost all respect with the IKEA wrench but then you gained it all back and more by teaching this old machinist a new trick. Well done.
@daliborfarny
@daliborfarny 5 жыл бұрын
JACOB HARMON its not about tools..
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 5 жыл бұрын
Generally I would agree, but I can't/won't pass up the chance to rib a fellow machinist for using his wife's adjustable wrench on a KZfaq video. Name on the tool doesn't matter if it does what you need. Maybe the good natured joke got lost in translation....
@lordchickenhawk
@lordchickenhawk 11 жыл бұрын
I love it.... been a fitter and turner for years and STILL never thought of doing this.... I'm subbing
@NoferTrunions
@NoferTrunions 5 жыл бұрын
Now I know why there is a center on the end of taps!
@daliborfarny
@daliborfarny 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Jamie, I didnt change the tap, it is in original condition as You can buy it in store..
@SergeyKostenko88
@SergeyKostenko88 3 жыл бұрын
Очень хорошая работа. Буду знать. Токарил 9 лет как любитель. Спасибо, давай еще!!
@sergvasilievich8786
@sergvasilievich8786 6 ай бұрын
D=P/sin(3.14/z) Это формула для определения наружного диаметра для этой шестерни. D - диаметр в миллиметрах P - шаг в миллиметрах Z - число зубьев
@robbyberry8911
@robbyberry8911 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education that's a pretty sweet trick ....
@manolarecchi1988
@manolarecchi1988 5 жыл бұрын
Robby Berry kk
@daliborfarny
@daliborfarny 11 жыл бұрын
You can use a threaded rod, type as the tap.. If You used M10 tap, use a M10 threaded rod..
@Homemadelathemachine
@Homemadelathemachine 6 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@ahmedmughal3929
@ahmedmughal3929 6 жыл бұрын
Dalibor Farný what is this ? This not narling trick
@SarwanKumar-tf2gn
@SarwanKumar-tf2gn 6 жыл бұрын
Mara Mamady i
@sashtrousyaone1584
@sashtrousyaone1584 6 жыл бұрын
Dalibor Farný Is this a spure gear
@Carlos007007ful
@Carlos007007ful 6 жыл бұрын
Dalibor Farný Parabéns Muito bom seu trabalho
@alexfaveluke3867
@alexfaveluke3867 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for posting this. I've got to put some axial ridges in a plastic wheel, this will be great to try for that!
@KULITEKNIK001
@KULITEKNIK001 2 жыл бұрын
cool thread gear making trick, I never thought of it, good job sir
@gettingpast4391
@gettingpast4391 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! That is a great idea
@atvheads
@atvheads 10 жыл бұрын
Haha! An Ikea Wrench. You are very clever by the way. :)
@santiagoarrieta1992
@santiagoarrieta1992 5 жыл бұрын
Ñ
@giacomoromanazzi2245
@giacomoromanazzi2245 5 жыл бұрын
Giacomo Giac
@Mr6606j
@Mr6606j 4 жыл бұрын
I used to grind gears at caterpillar, and on a larger scale, its hobbing, just on a much smaller scale. If you were to start at the leading edge of the work piece, and run all the way down to the bottom edge, it would actually be a decent hobby grade straight cut gear, run multiples at different diameters and you could, theoretically, build an entire gearbox.
@whyohwhy357
@whyohwhy357 2 жыл бұрын
I was a Cat tech for 30 years. We have probably touched some of the same gears. The various machining techniques Cat used always intrigued me.
@bradvanbibber5883
@bradvanbibber5883 4 жыл бұрын
I think a standard bolt used to drive this gear would strip the gear quickly if subjected to any amout of torque. Most bolts onlt have 60% thread engagement. If you threaded a rod of the correct diameter you could get the thread contact percentage up quite a bit and have more consistent threads that wouldn't chew up the gear as quickly.
@bertzog6869
@bertzog6869 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this video appeared just at the right time for me. A simple jig for my mini mil or mini lathe and I should be able to cut a large worm gear. Thanks again. Now then, I wonder if a matching die could cut the matching worm?
@johnwhitty1236
@johnwhitty1236 2 жыл бұрын
A bolt of same thread
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