Dan Harmon on the first two Hobbit movies

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Dan Harmon on the first two Hobbit movies

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moondyne

10 жыл бұрын

from The Indoor Kids with Kumail Nanjiani and Emily V. Gordon (2014)

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@ferreday5749 7 жыл бұрын

There are a few scenes that really stand out to me as appearing to have a lot more love put into them: The feast at Bilbo's Bilbo meeting Gollum Bilbo talking to Smaug.

@bleack8701 7 жыл бұрын

Peter Jackson was forced to take charge at the last second so he had no time to properly write the script, but he knew that there are moments that no matter what you HAVE TO get right and he decided to sacrifice the other scenes in order to make sure to get those right

@mikeisapro 6 жыл бұрын

Books were much better.

@bo64625 5 жыл бұрын

@@bleack8701 no time to write it properly? than why tf add all that extra shit with orcs ? did he not already have enough on his plate that he had to ad a whole bunch of shitty plotlines

@bagrym 5 жыл бұрын

@@bo64625 that was studio decision to make it three movies instead of two, so they had to put stuff into to keep pace and fill voids unfortunately.

@bo64625 5 жыл бұрын

@@bagrym there was already a good amount of content to make three movies in the hobbit. The problem is they didnt do a justice to the actual source material and ended up putting orcs and legolas in it just to make things more "exciting". There was so much cool shit in the book that could have been made into 3 movies, but all peter jackson cares about know is how "grand it all looks with CGI" He doesnt give a shit about writing a good script. It just shows they didnt really care about making a good tribute to the hobbit, they just wanted to make a lot of cash. Also look at peter jacksons new movie Mortal Engines, its obvious hes lost passion for his craft and cant make a decent fucking movie anymore

@jonahdrake5885 7 жыл бұрын

The Hobbit could have been a wonderful little prequel film that served as a wonderful companion piece to The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Nope. Instead we got a trilogy nobody wanted. The Hobbit is such a wonderful children's novel.

@PogieJoe 6 жыл бұрын

Man that would have been great. What an event that could have been to have it be just a once-off return filled with charm and joy.

@no_nameyouknow 6 жыл бұрын

It should have been totally different in tone because the books were totally different in tone. Rather, they tried to make a LotR prequel that was more in line with the LotR movies, via injecting scenes that had no place in the movie among other things.

@ens0246 7 жыл бұрын

I wonder now they've seen the behind the scenes. Where it's like "Del Toro left, Jackson came in, tried to make it work, almost died. It didn't work out". Clearly it wasn't a work of defiant ignorance but of terrible circumstances.

@JRSpecht 8 жыл бұрын

Dan's line at the very end was perfect

@jonathanross149 7 жыл бұрын

I feel thin... stretched. Like butter scraped over too much bread.

@mikeisapro 6 жыл бұрын

What psychoactive, if any (besides Harmon) achieves this? As a psychonaut, your comment makes me wonder.

@NickTBrick 5 жыл бұрын

@@mikeisapro ............a ring ring of power

@Demoulous 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I was thinking after the second movie. :)

@polymphus 7 жыл бұрын

I know a dude who was meant to play a make-up-d orc in the hobbit movies. He schlepped around the set in heavy armour for months, sweating his ass off in the background, then got told later that they were gonna cut him entirely so they could animate the orcs in.

@PeterLambert2211 7 жыл бұрын

That freaking sucks! They could make a great movie about how hard people work and end up getting nothing out of it. A Coen brothers movie. If anyone could pull it off it would be them.

@nastrael 7 жыл бұрын

One of the best parts about the LotR Trilogy was the stunt work. It was so intense, you could be forgiven for thinking that they weren't stunts, because some of the time they weren't. There were a few moments (namely when shooting the fights at Amon Hen and Helm's Deep) where they literally told the stunt guys to go all out, bordering on giving them permission to actually fight and kill each other. What that resulted in was some of the greatest action sequences ever put on film, ever. Guy's broke bones and lost teeth to get those shots, and they're fucking golden. The Hobbit had none of that intensity.

@TheTheode 7 жыл бұрын

+Peter Lambert2211 All of the coen's brothers movies are really small scale personal stories, so I'm not really sure why you'd think that would translate into a fantasy epic. If kubrick was still alive now that's someone who could make an epic movie

@bagrym 5 жыл бұрын

was he the huge guy running around with dwarf beards on his belt? i think i saw behind the scenes material with him and was amazed and positively appaled by the design.

@karlboson4803 4 жыл бұрын

@@bagrym Any photos of him online? Can't find any

@Laizerdisk 7 жыл бұрын

Dan could talk about moldy cheese for 45 minutes it would still be the funniest thing on earth

@robinsarchiz 4 жыл бұрын

Haven't you heard his famous top 5 moldy cheese jokes?

@chronicbrightside8757 Ай бұрын

I wish this podcast was still around... So good

@DINGOlord 6 жыл бұрын

This is particularly funny now because Kumail & Emily might legitimately win the Oscar for best original screenplay this year

@MrKhaosKid 7 жыл бұрын

this is a great perspective. If We saw everything from Bilbo's perspective, it would have been really great. I know they weren't meant to make the hobbit the way they did, but Bilbo's point of view may have worked a bit better.

@madrid_seu 4 жыл бұрын

"you can't just make 1 book into 3 movies" definitely applicable here, but should be more nuanced. war and peace was made into 4 movies by bondarchuck and it was necesary

@broodypie2216 4 жыл бұрын

I like to think of the hobbit movies as Bilbos imagination running away, even the hazy cg appears like a dream state

@broodypie2216 4 жыл бұрын

Having said that, still not so great.

@no_nameyouknow 6 жыл бұрын

Time was there was going to be two movies made by Del Torro.

@edroseptic9442 2 жыл бұрын

This podcast has been dumped down the memory hole. Can’t find the old episodes anymore

@Serprizebuttsecks 6 жыл бұрын

Burried in the hobbit trilogy is a fantastic hobbit movie... we just need someone to cut the 9-10 hours down to what it should be 2-3!

@JXEditor 4 жыл бұрын

Serprizebuttsecks It’s been done a few times.

@onaughto 6 жыл бұрын

This was great. Harmon should make a fantasy movie... I'd go see that.

@bw6155 4 жыл бұрын

The Hobbit movies kick ass

@tk5800thesecond 2 жыл бұрын

cant beleive they got prismo onto the podcast

@neb3195 5 жыл бұрын

Legolas while never explicitly mentioned would have been at the elven King's feast in murkwood. Whether or not that means he should have such a large role in the film eeehhhhhh probably not.

@alchouinard6090 4 жыл бұрын

Man I miss The indoor Kids. I wish Kumail didn't get super famous haha

@flynnswagmire4303 5 жыл бұрын

That last minute and a half made me fully reevaluate my taste in movies...

@mandalorian_guy 6 жыл бұрын

Having already heard his How Did This Get Made episode, I know where he got that quote from.

@Redem10 4 жыл бұрын

For a bit I was "Wait isn't there two hobbit movie" then I remembered they were 3

@nmarrs8539 4 жыл бұрын

Someone should take all three of the Hobbit movies and edit them down to one movie.

@Smoof29 5 жыл бұрын

Ohhh that's the Jared Leto dwarf ahahahaha

@skoonimadooner464 4 жыл бұрын

they're right about the hobbit movies, dark knight rises, and of course man of steel

@MarioRossiAncora 4 жыл бұрын

How is Harmon always able to cut through the bullshit? When I give my (informed) opinion on the technical aspects of media I'm always very cautious and I come off as if I have less to say than I have. By doing that I'm doing a disservice to writing, which I love, to accomodate people feeling cozy, which I'm wary of.

@CheefChaos 4 жыл бұрын

So the Tolkien Family/estate didn't make alot of money off the LOTR trilogy, Tolkien basically gave away the rights laughing saying it'll never be made into a live action film.

@vivanesca 6 жыл бұрын

Kumail and Emily should write a Silmarillion movie

@Gfunkmeister 6 жыл бұрын

I miss the indoor kids S-s-s-so much :(

@tazmon122 6 жыл бұрын

i feel so bad for Peter Jackson cuz Dan makes pretty much everyone's argument of why those films suck, and they never think of what the poor dude went through. exactly the same with Green Hornet. the script and the editing and everything exchanged hands so many times that anything final is just a mess and by the time anyone who gives a shit about the quality comes in, there is no time to fix it cuz production needs to start. the dude had a mental breakdown and halted production for 2 weeks on the second movie cuz he had to direct 2 units AND do script re-writes. it woulda been so much different if they could've.

@bagrym 5 жыл бұрын

yeah man. i was so angry after seeing the movies. and then seeing the behind the scenes material and hear about the hits against his health he took to get this mess out at all. broke my heart

@BrandonB... 6 жыл бұрын

Dan Harmon is a fucking genius.

@crumbb_m 8 жыл бұрын

I don't care about Hobbits but I can't pass up a good bashing

@thalesguidote3728 6 жыл бұрын

Crumb Bum Nice profile picture.

@beautiplady8712 7 жыл бұрын

PRISMO!

@njabulomoratioa3252 6 жыл бұрын

Beau Tiplady yes it's prismo the dreamer

@jorgepeterbarton 5 жыл бұрын

and lumpy space harmon

@billybeans2253 4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Harmonica

@davidkglevi 5 жыл бұрын

The habit movies?

@rhubarb_runner 4 жыл бұрын

The Hobbit movie: 1/3 The Hobbit, 2/3 Keystone Cops

@ih8myfriends 5 жыл бұрын

dan said no dwarves die. feely andkeely die dont they?

@grimsnark4849 7 жыл бұрын

More like "Legol-ass"!

@georgepack6052 4 жыл бұрын

First comment since coronavirus here!

@simetry6477 7 жыл бұрын

Well the vagueness about the lore , gandalf, etc was why these movies took 50 years to make.

@ChickSage 4 жыл бұрын

I bet you could make three movies out of Dune.

@brettomomyces 4 жыл бұрын

or two like Villanueve is doing...

@deathhzrd 4 жыл бұрын

Chick Sage if not more

@jorgepeterbarton 5 жыл бұрын

those were goblins not orcs or uruk hai i guess why they look different. but making a movie from 100 page book to be as epic as a movie from a 1100 page book yeh it doesn't work as much as LOTR should have been about 10 films. Should have invented a Silmarillion script and made ONE hobbit movie Hobbit was the childrens story prototype before TOlkein worked out how to do it better TBF.

@SkullDixon 4 жыл бұрын

Ya, he was really lazy when it came time to make the hobbit for some reason. The Video game chase scene killed me. Completely pulled me out of the film.

@FindTheFun 6 жыл бұрын

You won't go to hell for saying the Hobbit movies suck, you'll go to hell for thinking they're good.

@Inertia888 6 жыл бұрын

I thought they did a great job of keeping it very close to the book. Of course my imagination is always better, but man they did a great job of getting those pages on screen.

@magneto44 6 жыл бұрын

I hope you are being sarcastic? the Hobbit movies were basically glorified fan fiction compared to the book

@Inertia888 6 жыл бұрын

Magneto rex, Im sorry, I meant the trilogy.

@ianh1504 7 жыл бұрын

The barrel scene pissed me off, dwarves are half the size of a human but weigh like 1.5x, do they would sink like rocks.

@milesgodman3116 6 жыл бұрын

Happens in the book as well soooooooooo

@ianh1504 6 жыл бұрын

Miles Godman so if its in a book thats ok for it to be a lie

@AshArAis 6 жыл бұрын

In the book the barrels are fastened shut, so they are buoyant because they are airtight and bobbing. Nobody knows they escaped down the river, it's not an action sequence at all If the barrels are open, they would sink. Bilbo pushes all the closed barrels into the river and then clings to one as he can't shut himself into one, so he ends up catching a cold and resenting leaving without his handkerchief, which he kicks himself for at the start of the book.

@ianh1504 6 жыл бұрын

Ashley Feawen sure, but physics still exist in middle earth www.wired.com/2013/12/should-dwarves-stand-up-in-floating-barrels/ The guy writing the article screws up considerably when he quotes the Thorin's weight as 55kg though.

@johnpliskin8759 4 жыл бұрын

lol buncha whiny bitches in this comment section

@Dizz2K7 4 жыл бұрын

So... Having read the source material ruins the movie... Whodathunkit

@maegnificant 7 жыл бұрын

i hate the hobbit movies so much.

@latexmonkeys 4 жыл бұрын

The films were so tedious, I just wanted to leave the theater. None of the charm of the book.

@ick13 7 жыл бұрын

I actually really liked the first Hobbit movie, which was surprising because I did not like any of the Lord of the Rings films. Bilbo is such a great character, and the sequels should have continued focusing on him. Or, you know, not be made because this whole story could have fit into one freaking movie.

@alejoparedes2388 4 жыл бұрын

Anyone wondering why those movies sucked, watch Lindsay Ellis' videos on the subject. It's even worse than you think.

@KurticeYZreacts 7 жыл бұрын

man i didnt watch hobbit in theature or read the book but i thought it was great. maybe thats why and im prob the propper viewers for the movie cuz i hav no intrest in the series in general. i like lord rings 1 and that waa it i gav hobbit a chance and thought it was waaay better

@countchocula2169 7 жыл бұрын

Kurtice YZ Makes sense. the proper audience is people who can't spell

@lewisdimmick3933 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe they'll redact them if you keep crying you "Can't make 1 book into 3 movies" over and over.

@Fantallana 4 жыл бұрын

The second hobbit film is good. The others... meh

@dikkersjrad 7 жыл бұрын

Hobbit 1 A- Hobbit 2 D+ Hobbit 3 F

@johnpliskin8759 4 жыл бұрын

buncha whiners here, the hobbit movies were good

@camronchlarson3767 5 жыл бұрын

Hobbit sucked

@Full0metal0custard 6 жыл бұрын

Why is there a woman who keeps loudly adding nothing to the conversation?

@vicsyy332 6 жыл бұрын

She has to be in agreement which makes her opinions invalid. I swear she liked the hobbit before everyone else hated it.

@petersenior5432 6 жыл бұрын

She probably autistically loves the hobbit and can't handle hearing people shit on it so hard and constantly agrees with the obvious parts of the series that are shitty to try and change the subject, but Dan and Kumail can't STOP finding parts of it that are shitty

@Dinckelburg 4 жыл бұрын

That's Emily Gordon, Kumails wife and she's the reason Dan Harmon ever began Harmontown.