How much money should you spend on a gaming PC? March 2024

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3 ай бұрын

How much money should you spend on a gaming PC? Let's find out how performance scales by price if we remain value conscious on our parts list.
Here's a link to the previous video discussing the full thought process behind the $1500 build: • Best Value Gaming PC B...
Here's the parts lists:
The best performance per dollar will be found in the $1100 to $1500 range using a build similar to what is listed below:
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X: amzn.to/3TBFNmp
(Non-x is good too, but was out of stock when filming)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin amzn.to/4a7o23H
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2: amzn.to/3wEP5Vo
RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30: amzn.to/49Db2CW
SSD: 2 TB PCIe Gen 4: amzn.to/3PzEPEP
Case (Others are fine): Montech AIR 903 MAX amzn.to/3PdfPCP
PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2: amzn.to/3Ts30Hm
GPU choice should vary by your max budget and will have the largest impact on gaming performance out of any single part:
$1100 Build GPU: RX 6800 amzn.to/49Ig695
$1300 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Super amzn.to/49KIzew
$1300 Build GPU (AMD Option): RX 7900 GRE amzn.to/48F1gio
$1500 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super amzn.to/3IsP8GB
For $1700, upgrade the CPU to the Ryzen 7800X3D: amzn.to/3TuWf7F
From there upgrade the GPU further:
$2000 RTX 4080 Super: amzn.to/3T2ZEcw
7900 XTX is also an option to save a bit of money: amzn.to/49OPp2O
$2700 RTX 4090: amzn.to/3TcqiQ5
Spending more than this won't meaningfully increase performance, so extra funds can be allocated to making the build look awesome!
If you need to go below $1100 you will need to swap to an older generation CPU/Mobo/RAM
One option would be a Ryzen 5600 based build using these parts:
CPU: Ryzen 5 5600 amzn.to/3Ve3pyE
Mobo: A B550 motherboard at a low price. Something like this: amzn.to/4c5G7Rj
RAM: 2x16GB DDR5 3200 CL 16 amzn.to/3IrQPUR
You could also cut the power supply and SSD a bit if needed.
GPU should scale with budget:
$800 build: RX 6700 XT amzn.to/3Vc4xmd
$860 build: RX 6800 amzn.to/4c38rnD
$960 build: RX 7800 XT amzn.to/4c899zS
$1000 build: RTX 4070 (or stick with 7800 XT if you prefer 16GB vram over better upscaler): amzn.to/3v3pZze
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@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Here's a link to the previous video discussing the full thought process behind the $1500 build: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ep6Yhbx9z9KvqHU.html Here's the parts lists: The best performance per dollar will be found in the $1100 to $1500 range using a build similar to what is listed below: CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X: amzn.to/3TBFNmp (Non-x is good too, but was out of stock when filming) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin amzn.to/4a7o23H Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2: amzn.to/3wEP5Vo RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30: amzn.to/49Db2CW SSD: 2 TB PCIe Gen 4: amzn.to/3PzEPEP Case (Others are fine): Montech AIR 903 MAX amzn.to/3PdfPCP PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2: amzn.to/3Ts30Hm GPU choice should vary by your max budget and will have the largest impact on gaming performance out of any single part: $1100 Build GPU: RX 6800 amzn.to/49Ig695 $1300 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Super amzn.to/49KIzew $1300 Build GPU (AMD Option): RX 7900 GRE amzn.to/48F1gio $1500 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super amzn.to/3IsP8GB For $1700, upgrade the CPU to the Ryzen 7800X3D: amzn.to/3TuWf7F From there upgrade the GPU further: $2000 RTX 4080 Super: amzn.to/3T2ZEcw 7900 XTX is also an option to save a bit of money: amzn.to/49OPp2O $2700 RTX 4090: amzn.to/3TcqiQ5 Spending more than this won't meaningfully increase performance, so extra funds can be allocated to making the build look awesome! If you need to go below $1100 you will need to swap to an older generation CPU/Mobo/RAM One option would be a Ryzen 5600 based build using these parts: CPU: Ryzen 5 5600 amzn.to/3Ve3pyE Mobo: A B550 motherboard at a low price. Something like this: amzn.to/4c5G7Rj RAM: 2x16GB DDR5 3200 CL 16 amzn.to/3IrQPUR You could also cut the power supply and SSD a bit if needed. GPU should scale with budget: $800 build: RX 6700 XT amzn.to/3Vc4xmd $860 build: RX 6800 amzn.to/4c38rnD $960 build: RX 7800 XT amzn.to/4c899zS $1000 build: RTX 4070 (or stick with 7800 XT if you prefer 16GB vram over better upscaler): amzn.to/3v3pZze Going below $800 means you are no longer outperforming a PS5, so consider whether a console would meet your needs. If still going the PC route, I would highly recommend checking the used market for a somewhat recent CPU/Mobo/RAM combo and then fitting in the best GPU you can. I wouldn't go below an RX 6600 for about $190 amzn.to/4a2W8Wr Disclosure: The links above are affiliate links, so I earn money on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you.

@LarsJ1977 3 ай бұрын

Please use a dark reader add-on to eliminate the flash banging.

@j.b.7813 3 ай бұрын

"Black box with no rgb on it" - that is my pc.

@neilstack4194 3 ай бұрын

Me first performance over aesthetics anyday

@blayses3116 3 ай бұрын

Don’t let ZTT hear that

@LprogressivesANDliberals 3 ай бұрын

I was to until I hit 30 and made good money 😂 no more budget balling

@pinakmiku4999 3 ай бұрын

It is not the case for everyone. Many people prefer aesthetics and you can argue with people spending thousands of dollars on interior decor and aesthetics where they don’t contribute anything. Aesthetics is important for many!

@e2k220 3 ай бұрын

YEP

@Haddley333 3 ай бұрын

Performance and noise levels. Most of these budget builds forget to mention that the pc will sound like a vacuum cleaner if you’re not careful

@onthebrink99 3 ай бұрын

I’m on the fence about spending extra to have an aesthetically pleasing build. It’s definitely dumb to spend hundreds on RGB fans and other crap that doesn’t improve performance, but I do also feel like you want your PC to look nice and be something you’re proud of.

@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 3 ай бұрын

RGB clearly adds more performance. Idk what you're talking about.

@OtherwiseUknownMonkey 3 ай бұрын

i think its better to spend that money on a case you like, realistically how often will you look inside your pc case to see how white your gpu and cable ties are

@H4GRlD 3 ай бұрын

💯 Unless you're really on a tight budget it doesn't hurt to build something aesthetically pleasing, since you will probably look at the damn thing for years. Talking about spending maybe an extra 50-100$ to buy a nice case or a cooler solution that you find nicer to look at. Just don't overspend, I personally really regret investing way too much 4 years ago on Corsair's RGB ecosystem. It wasn't just expensive, it adds so many extra wires that I get the feeling I'm constantly fighting with a Kraken inside my case. 😂😂 Not to mention the RGB bloatware you have to install under Windows, potential extra difficulties you'll face with controlling these fans while using a different OS like Linux.

@joeylogan5469 3 ай бұрын

I agree, my rig sits atop my desk, and I want it to look good for me and the grandkids when they come over. I also have my grandson his own rig on a desk in the same room.

@Ralipsi 3 ай бұрын

@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

@rileyparrish184 3 ай бұрын

Best channel on KZfaq and easiest guy to listen to, keep up the great work Daniel!

@gbitencourt 3 ай бұрын

Very sensible approach, specially the aesthetic part. Thank you.

@SlackyMr 13 күн бұрын

You really love the Montech case :P Besides that, love the video !

@thomaslayman9487 3 ай бұрын

personally i think the true bottom end for a gaming pc build is an i3 12100/r5 5500 (both around a 3600 level of performance) paired with an rx 6600. wouldn't go any lower than that, but it does make for a really solid 1080p build for like $550

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

stupid to invest into dead platform

@MrSamadolfo 3 ай бұрын

🙂 i have an intel for just about every generation, all the way back to Core 2 Quad, for video cards a simple $40 750ti 2gb can get u by, u can play the lighter shooter games just fine, and yes those cpus are fine they are in stock all day at Microcenter

@rohansharma5487 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85stupid to invest in upgradability over performance in a tight 550 budget.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@rohansharma5487 stupid to do tight budget builds

@Pamani_ 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85If the choice is between $550 PC or not having a PC, there isn't much room to be picky

@LprogressivesANDliberals 3 ай бұрын

Don’t worry gamers! Be patient! I finally turned 30 and can afford pc gaming 😁 work hard youngins!!! Time is a man’s best friend

@ARealPain 3 ай бұрын

Love the channel name lmao. I’m on the same boat as you out here in Oklahoma.

@xXDaBoyzRulezXx 3 ай бұрын

@@ARealPain what

@ARealPain 3 ай бұрын

@@xXDaBoyzRulezXx click on the original commenter’s channel and read his channel name. It’ll make sense

@voidabstraction 3 ай бұрын

@@ARealPaintime is quite literally the killer of us all. Dogs are best friends 😉

@ARealPain 3 ай бұрын

@@voidabstraction you made absolutely no sense

@TheTallRaver 2 ай бұрын

Excellent video!

@Saki630 3 ай бұрын

Great content boss! I plan on working on my next build because I want to play some new games and my 1080ti is just not cutting it anymore. I also want to have something that can run either a 1440p or 4k OLED panel :)

@cthomas2812 3 ай бұрын

I just finished my PC upgrade this past week. I bought parts through out all of 2023 since I was in no rush. I still spent well over the amount any casual should, but I saved alot of money too by waiting for deals on all the parts I got lol. Going from my old 5800x/3070ti build to my new setup is night and day better! Can actually hit 200+ frames on ultrawide 1440p on almost all my games with all settings maxed out! X670E MSI Carbon Wifi 7800x3d Corsair Dominator 6k/cl30 Strix 4080 OC white (brand new open box) saved majorly on this! Corsair SL1000 Thermalrite AM5 cpu guard Thermal Grizz kryosheet Samsung 990 pro 2tb Samsung 980 pro 2tb NZXT z63 280 Arzopa 14in front panel mod Lian Li o11 mini

@MrAnimescrazy 3 ай бұрын

That is a huge upgrade and a high end build.

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

Very nice

@raptorhacker599 3 ай бұрын

Lol your "old" rig could be my dream PC.

@telefonbarmann4514 3 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with the sentiment of price to performance first. I think alot of people overestimate the impact RGB or color matched components have on their PC-enjoyment. A much bigger impact in my opinion is choosing a case that has a nice finish (paint,buttons, ports, etc.) because these are the things you interact with the most. This should be so much higher on the list compared to color matched internal components or exsessive RGB lighting. I personally like LED lighting alot, but alot of these RGB computer components have unpleasend color rendering. I would recomend buying some nice high CRI LED strips or RGB strips with a diffuser to stick under your desk for example. It has a simmilar effect on your room and can be operated independent of your PC.

@binks_jim 3 ай бұрын

My first pc I built was about a 1000.00, I traded in my 6750xt for a 4070 ti super. Making the final cost of my build around 1500.00.

@Taavett 3 ай бұрын

my build is 1007€ i have a 6800xt and a 3700x, gpu used.

@binks_jim 3 ай бұрын

@taavitar4613 I purchased an rx850x psu about a year ago, and got most of my stuff on sale. I7 12700k for 250 mobo 169 memory was like 150 and case was 89. The 6750xt was 340. Close to a grand, but I traded in my 6750xt for a 4070tiS which pushed it to 1500.00.

@binks_jim 3 ай бұрын

@taavitar4613 used is excellent way to mitigate Inflation.

@bjvink0130 3 ай бұрын

my original build was 600 with 1060 gb and r5 2600x

@Taavett 3 ай бұрын

my previous pc was a overheating laptop with a i5-4300U and a hd 4400.@@bjvink0130

@christophermullins7163 3 ай бұрын

I spent $420 on a new 6950 xt l, $300 on 5600x motherboard ram and power supply and used my existing case. Thats half the price as that build with much more performance lol dont be that guy. Make your money work for you because you worked for your money.

@smrack 3 ай бұрын

When I build a PC, an upgradeability path is paramount for me. Daniel talked about certain upgrades you can get for when you scale your budget up. Personally, I have been swapping components in a single PC since 2009. The only original component today is the blu-ray drive. I woke up this morning and decided it was time to upgrade the mobo/cpu/ram, and clicked on this video for inspiration. I was immediately a little disappointed because the Mobo was a B650M. I will now be looking instead for a mobo review video, because I am not confident this is the mobo that will last for me.

@nifftwatkins3135 3 ай бұрын

Big, dark, quiet, cool box!

@SirSomnolent 3 ай бұрын

If wanting a nice mesh matx case, Im pretty fond atm of SAMA IM01 Pro though the viewers original ap 201 isnt bad -just has some comprises. Plenty of room for however large a gpu and small enough that they include a little tote bag ;) Im over big black box cases

@strangerdanger1012 3 ай бұрын

I've seen so many builds where someone spent $500+ on just fans, RGB, cables, and then some people even complain that the performance isn't what they thought it was going to be.... Like you, I've always gone non-rgb flashy builds. All black, clean and majority of $ going in to performance components not into flashiness. But some one wants that in their budget, they just need to accept what they are sacrificing in their budget.

@richardsracingmad 3 ай бұрын

I had special needs, an ITX build as I have a very small living/ sleeping area, price £1200 all in with quality PSU and 1440 gaming

@Audiosan79 3 ай бұрын

My latest pc ended up with a pricetag of about 4000€ (EU incl 25% tax). There is a bit of money in estetics and in storage. In 2023 i spent a total of 10.000€ on my gaming setup (2 pc's in that setup).

@unitybeing777 3 ай бұрын

Well done.

@SubzeroBlack68 3 ай бұрын

I don't even consider any Aesthetics unless I have money leftover AFTER purchasing flagship or close to it hardware like a 7950X3D and an RTX4080 Super. Or I make a quick build in the shopping cart and then exchange parts for different aesthetic designs of the same parts. Like when I got an rtx 3090 I just looked at other 3090's at the same pricepoint or lower that were more pleasing aesthetically.

@jamesgodfrey1322 3 ай бұрын

price to performance you want as much performance as get for money (l always done this my PC well l got a nice simple case a black box that air cooled not RGB ) Now aesthetically pleasing builds cost money and add nothing to performance Yes you can polish you build l start with nice case that includes fans and l stay away from the white parts as they cost far to much extra money

@NoOneYouWouldKnowOf 3 ай бұрын

Just finished an almost all white 4070 super build for just under 1400 bucks. Black motherboard, because I wanted a bit of future proofing (DDR5, PCIe 5) and every white board had a $100-200 premium attached to it lol. Everything else is white, case, fans, GPU, RAM, cooler etc and they had no premium pricing attached, most of them I was able to find sale prices on

@dragonman910 3 ай бұрын

I spent 2k 3 years ago. For 1440p, I have no intention of upgrading. If I want to do 4k gaming, I'll be looking to upgrade.

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

4k lol my 1440p PCs are 7k and 2k don't fall into the 4k scam it's not worth the reduction in performance

@ziggyvertang3257 3 ай бұрын

I'm still rocking a 2070s and 2700x 32GB ram. Still solid performance at 1440p. Only think now there are a few games that genuinely push it to the point where it's making me wonder if I should think about upgrading, Dragons dogma 2 might be the first game I decided to not play until I upgraded.

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

@@ziggyvertang3257 do it.

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

@@ziggyvertang3257 yes you should but it's really down to you

@Saki630 3 ай бұрын

back to bed grandpa as we all know your 3 year old PC can always run 1440p 100fps+ maxed out even in 2024 and beyond....

@mursumarsu1791 3 ай бұрын

If not enogh money for 7600x just crab 7500f dont please go older gen always can updarge

@zdenek75a 3 ай бұрын

❗NICE! Thanks Daniel. May I kindly ask you to create video about builds around resolution? For example, people mostly use 120-144Hz Monitors, so no need for any faster computer. It would be soooo nice to see video with two starting builds, one for 1080p and other for 1440p, without RT. You will become YT hero with such approach 😃 ❣

@nerdedkyle3515 3 ай бұрын

I have a 5600x and I just got a 3080 used and I'm not seeing any issues with bottle necking would it run better with a faster CPU yes obviously but u can definitely pair them I upgraded from a RTX 2060 and gain a lot of frames

@nonamenameless5495 3 ай бұрын

Tbh, I strongly doubt that extra money spent on a cpu would end up being worth it... the 5800x3d is the only real upgrade for you in terms of gaming and honestly, the improvements you ll perceive will either be minimal or not existant...assuming that anything past 100 fps won t really matter in your perception when gaming. I had pretty much all the cpus of the AMD line up, paired with lots of graphics cards up to the 6800XT tier and I ended up buying a 5600 for my leisure build and in the other, more workstation style build, I simply kept the 3900XT. Edit: Let s not forget that in about 2-3 years, lots will have the itch to change platforms and upgrade, there ll be a fairly buyer friendly used market for the 5800x3d or 59xx cpus.

@molochi 3 ай бұрын

About $1000. A new HP mATX tower (i5/12GB ram/1TB ssd) for Work/School is gonna run about 600. A new PS5 is 450. So any "gaming" PC is gonna be competing at that combined price point. Ofc this assumes you would consider using a PS5 instead of a gaming computer. JMO

@ThisGuyDrives 3 ай бұрын

My last PC build was in Jan of 2020. Was bout $1,500. New PC build was $4,400. I got the best of the best because I have no kids and I make good money. I also won't have to upgrade for several years to come. When I do upgrade, it'll be the 7950X3D CPU, because that's the only thing holding back the 4090.

@user-xm1tk6gw8m 3 ай бұрын

i have a question around 12 min If you wanted to keep the price at 1500 would be better to have the ryzen 7 7800x3d and get a rtx 4070 super or how it was with rtx 4070 ti super and worse cpu both of those builds have same price but what is better

@pablosanmartinvarela1773 3 ай бұрын

Perhaps the cheapest possible build that's worth it: 7500f + used 6700xt

@phu755 3 ай бұрын

I know it's not much but you can lower cpu from 7600x to 7600. It comes with stock cooler..

@PhillKaggitz 3 ай бұрын

People that rather have an inferior, more expensive all white PC are the reason Alienware exists.

@biomagic8959 3 ай бұрын

buying 4090 when 5090 is prolly 9 months away feels very bad!

@yellowflash511 3 ай бұрын

Still running my 5800x3d + 6700xt build, very happy with it. I splurged on a 4090 system over a year ago when I got my first big job but wasn't satisfied with it as I'm not into playing tech demos. Sold the 4090 system to a friend of mine at a discount a couple months later and kept my 6700xt build for myself. Also sold him my 4k monitor and got a 1080p 240hz OLED which is much more useful for both my esports sessions (Dota2) and games like Elden Ring, Metro Exodus, etc. Don't think I will upgrade till the next RX8000 drops as 6700xt still plays games very well at 1080p even with some RT, especially if the RT in the game is optimized like in Metro.

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

1080p oled seems kinda weird ngl

@chrismejia2836 3 ай бұрын

I'm interested in OLED monitors as I have a tablet that also uses an OLED display. (Can't stand washed out blacks on LCD displays) Though from my research current OLEDS are 4k / 1440p res. Mind telling what the name of your monitor is? I've never heard of a 1080p OLED display

@shoobadoo123 3 ай бұрын

You should filter by nvme instead of ssd so all those sata drives don't show up

@H786... 2 ай бұрын

can you make a video on when it was the best time to build a pc for the past 5 years? and then predict when it will be the best time?

@1979Weasel 3 ай бұрын

Also, if you are into 4k gaming with low fps (50-60 fps), the CPU matters even less.

@FilthEffect 3 ай бұрын

Depends on the game. My 9400 could not handle Sons of the forest at 4k. As soon as I upgraded my mobo and bought a 12700k, my fps more than doubled.... (gpu at the time was a 3070ti)

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

@FilthEffect that's a very edge case, ofc a super imbalance will bottleneck, but at 4k I'm sure 7800x3d vs 7700x isn't THAT impactful as thr cpu just has to keep up with the poor GPU at higher resolutions.

@kiwivda 3 ай бұрын

The amount you can afford to reach a level that can please you.

@thedarkmask4155 3 ай бұрын

So intriguing I had just planned out on the 7600x And i just went to check gaming performance difference of 7600x and 7800x3d At 1080p there is a huge difference. But at 1440p, on avg there is just 10 fps difference. This is usually the case for graphically demanding games, and 7600x easily give more than 240hz monitor’s 240 fps On competitive games. But then all the reviewers said 7800x3d is generational and it is so much better than anything. And i see this video rn. Idk what to do.

@KcKeegan 3 ай бұрын

Boils down to what you play. If you play Lost Ark the x3d would make sense. What gpu are you doing to get etc etc. long story short, you can't go wrong with x3d if you can afford it. It'll be more than enough for the next generation of gpu's as well

@VeritronX 3 ай бұрын

I have an R5 7600 and 7900XTX at 1440p.. it's rarely cpu limited and when it is it's not by much and scene dependant most of the time.

@thedarkmask4155 3 ай бұрын

@@VeritronX yeah, at 1440p and 4k, games are gpu bound. i don't see much benefit in 7800x3d at the extra overall cost with better MB. from a gaming and fps per dollar pov 7600 is the winner imo. i truly wanna know what other benfit is there for a gamer from 7800x3d on 1440p?

@thedarkmask4155 3 ай бұрын

@@VeritronX since you have 7900xtx, can you tell me if you would rather have that or 4080 super? i feel the small things nvidia offers, and slightly better than amd, do tend to lean me towards that especially at that price point where vram is not really a factor and raw performance is similar. i'm leaning towards 4070 ti super over 7900xt as my budget is in that range.

@VeritronX 3 ай бұрын

@@thedarkmask4155 for me the 4080 / 4080 super wasn't an option, the xtx was competing with the 4070ti on price here when I bought it in june last year. If they were anywhere close in price I might have gone for one, but the gap was about as much as my ram and mobo combined and the xtx was already a stretch.

@Henlak- 2 ай бұрын

Out of curiosity what Motherboard would you reccomend for a 4090 build? I'm going for a 4090 gigabyte OC with a 7800x3d Cpu and I'm not sure what motherboard would compliment them best

@kytrexreal 3 ай бұрын

My RTX3090 FE died recently, what graphics card should I get to pair with my 13900k?

@minhphamngoc8675 3 ай бұрын

4090

@MrAnimescrazy 3 ай бұрын

I went with aesthetics and power. My build cost atotal of 3,250 with tax and shipping. I bought my parts mid last year and I went with my first all white high end build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the white phanteks nv7 case. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month. I play on my lg c1 oled 4k 65 inch tv and I am limited to 120 fps but that is good enough for me but I can get many more frames especially if I use dlss 3 and frame gen but I dont use them at all. I play at native 2k or native 4k high settings with or without ray tracing depending on the game.

@elitepauper7400 3 ай бұрын

All ur recent comments on this channel have been you talking about ur overpriced build lol😂😂 dude im glad you managed to scrape money to buy a system but goddamn. You have to be below the age of 16

@MrAnimescrazy 3 ай бұрын

@elitepauper7400 the build is not overpriced if you couldn't afford it last year or this year then that is on you if you want a build like mine. I am paying monthly on the build so it is easy to afford and it is almost paid off less than 1 year. You have to be a child but you can keep hating.

@Pamani_ 3 ай бұрын

You prefer using 1440p output to a 4K display instead of using quality upscaling ?

@MrAnimescrazy 3 ай бұрын

@Pamani_ I play at native 2k or native 4k high settings. I don't use upscalers when I play my games. I only use upscalers when I want to see how many frames I can get at 1080p or 1440p or 4k at high or ultra settings then I turn it off.

@fivemethoxy 3 ай бұрын

The word you're looking for is aesthetic Daniel

@B_rett_B 3 ай бұрын

I remember amd announcing they had some kind of technology that would boost performance if you use both amd gpu and cpu. is that something I should be aiming for at all? does it give any real noticeable boost in performance? or is it negligible enough where I should just go with a Nvidia gpu? I'm currently building 4k gaming rigs for both my wife and I.

@Lackesis 3 ай бұрын

A lot, 4090+7800x3D+4K 240hz OLED monitor.

@timmyjohns222 3 ай бұрын

I say it depends on how long will you use it for, current market is like $400-500 a year so you'd keep using a $1500 -1600 pc for 3/4 years or more.

@MrSamadolfo 3 ай бұрын

🙂 once u get usta building i'm always upgrading something every year, it never stops

@ceezymuccheez 3 ай бұрын

I just spent 150 on a 1080 palit super jetstream for my 600 doller build. i would love to get peoples thoughts on that :)

@VashTheStampede766 3 ай бұрын

I’m working with a buddy that has a $3-6k build and I just want a “do it right now and upgrade GPU later” PC (he’s got a 2060 super sitting around and I just need to make the choice on just spend about $600 for a solid 1080p/light 1440p build or spend more with a newer GPU for up to $1k)

@DenverStarkey 3 ай бұрын

i want either or .. i want either a black box , or something that is gaudy as hell with it's apperance. either way it's eye catching to some one that walks in. the black box catches the eye because so few computers are just a black box these days. adn tehg audy oen of coruse catches eyes.

@mursumarsu1791 3 ай бұрын

I think its worth to buy nice case if you are using it for like 7years+ and updarging pc

@jesusfreakster101 3 ай бұрын

I’m 2,800 in with 7900xtx holding spot and need for 4K monitor… it got out of hand with Y70, Lian Li LED fans and Galahad 2 … but I’ve a gaggle full of grandchildren so that’s my excuse. As an aside will 4080 super go the route of 4090 and remain overpriced???

@jonevansauthor 3 ай бұрын

£0 - you should always wait until next year, when the new thing is out and everything is cheaper for price/performance! You can do that every year! :D

@jonevansauthor 3 ай бұрын

Seriously though, stop with this visual nonsense folks, it's so childish.

@gerardt9650 3 ай бұрын

I have 4TB and I still feel like it's not enough

@rzkrdn8650 3 ай бұрын

Would love to have the $1500 build as you made. if only it's not being translated to $2100 over here 🙃 (taxes i guess)

@Ladioz 3 ай бұрын

$1400 gets you the perfect computer

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

My case was 500 dollars...perfect and cost effective are different budgets

@Rebe-Caufman 3 ай бұрын

loosers

@angrypickle6346 3 ай бұрын

@@stevieC11Hanworth lmao nobody cares you got scammed anyways

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

@@angrypickle6346 I built it myself you're clueless

@FilthEffect 3 ай бұрын

Lets see it@@stevieC11Hanworth

@AlucardNoir 3 ай бұрын

My 2 cents is that if all you do is office stuff and browsing you could do on a chromebook and gaming you shouldn't spend more than the amount of money you'll spend on games over the amount of time you intend to keep that particular gaming computer. If you do more with the horsepower a dedicated gpu can offer then things change, but if all you do is gaming you should spend roughly as much as you do on games over the years you intend to keep the machine. You upgrade every generation? spend as much as your games would cost you over two years. Every other generation? the equivalent of your game budget over 4 years. Every three generation? as much as you intend to spend on games over 6 years. The longer you intend to keep the machine the more powerful your components need to be. But spending more on a gaming PC than you do on games themselves seems daft to me. Spending $3000 USD on a gaming PC only to spend all your time in Stardew Valley seems like a massive waste of money - again, to me. (that or hyperinflation) But spending $800 USD on a gaming computer only to spend $2000 on games - especially if you're not actually going to play most of the games you buy - seems equally wasteful. But again, this is just my 2 cents.

@nikhilabi2230 3 ай бұрын

You should add monitor cost into the PC build

@cloudwalker9572 3 ай бұрын

You can always plug a tv as last resort for a pc. Pc config are always the tower alone.

@FullAfterburner 3 ай бұрын

I got an ASUS TUF RTX 4070 Ti Super.

@karenkamoske9035 3 ай бұрын

upgrade advice plz. 1440p on Samsung Galaxy G-7 240hz. i5-13600k, 3070ti on Gigabyte Z90 AORUS Elite atx DDR5 32GB . 62 y/o Grandma playing AAA titles looking to better my pc. TY

@MrAnimescrazy 3 ай бұрын

What is your budget? Is your pc all black or all white or a mix of both?

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Just upgrade the GPU. Everything else is fine. But probably need to go up to at least a 4070 ti Super or 7900xt for it to be a meaningful upgrade (at least 50% performance uplift).

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

You go grandma!

@rgstroud 3 ай бұрын

Fastest PC with fastest cheapest gaming is using a 7950X3D CPU so your system is $3000 or is $2600 if you managed to get your 4090 at the $1600 like I did back in February a year ago.

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

Actually, I think the way the 7950x3d is constructed makes it about the same or maybe even worse than the 7800x3d for gaming. 7950x3d smokes it for workload tasks though. Technically, I think the 14900ks is the most powerful gaming cpu...if you're willing to go for insane power draw and cooling. Ultimately, go 7800x3d.

@rgstroud 3 ай бұрын

@@joshholmes1372 I disagree. You can turn off one CCD for gaming and get the same performance as the 7800X3D for gaming and use all in blender with PBO2 OC and smoke the 14900K

@durbeeno 3 ай бұрын

Scored a 3090 FE for 620$ USD and a 7700x, B650P Pro Wifi, 32gb gskill flare x5 6000mhz ddr5, 850w maingear ignition psu, arctic 420mm aio, thermalright am5 frame, 1tb 980 pro, lancool 3 case for 600$ so all in about 1200$ on a rig and im crushing 4k, Super happy with it. My cousin owns a pawn shop and someone traded the tower in minus a gpu and he cut me a killer deal on it for 400$. All used but whatever, Runs like a champ!

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

Using tiktok shop or some shit lol? 600 for all that seems crazy. 420 aio in particular seems kinda wild for a 7700x

@durbeeno 3 ай бұрын

@@joshholmes1372 no, no, no, no, 620 for the 3090 alone from one person, the rig no gpu for 400$ from a cousin who own a pawn shop, the 420mm aio and thermalright frame, some arctic fans I did myself in case I wanted to go to a 7950x or something in the future. Spent around 200 on that stuff, So all in all, 1200ish on the build. Hope that clarifies.

@retrosean199 3 ай бұрын

I would suggest that you upgrade a motherboard above the "cheapest as possible" tier before updating the GPU 😆

@thegnomegang6825 3 ай бұрын

I got a professional built 3080 , 5600x desktop for 1k and im very satisfied for 1440p gaming im at 100+ fps ❤

@nice_bnuuy 3 ай бұрын

$1500 is the most I am willing to spend on a gaming PC and any game that doesn't run well for that much money is likely the game's fault.

@tittydaredevil 3 ай бұрын

Depends on how you are spending that $1500. You can blow through it easily without putting any decent hardware in it.

@hellprince1 3 ай бұрын

Hey Owen, when you were scaling down instead of going for the 5th gen I'd actually think you could've gone with the 7600 and remove the extra CPU cooler and you'd go below the 1k mark :)

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

7600 costs more than the 7600x right now or else I would have.

@hellprince1 3 ай бұрын

@@danielowentech right, I forgot the US market is a tad different then what ours over here in Europe is. I should've gone back on the video and seen that it's at a higher price. Thank you very much for your videos though, you really helped me out to make the choices for my new build. Got the 7600x and the 7800XT the day the Supers were announced and everything is crushing! ;)

@WhozZzWho 3 ай бұрын

That thumbnail is the price stack for 5000 series.

@ljiljan222 2 ай бұрын

can you make a build, stock trading oriented

@julienmarschall7518 3 ай бұрын

My pc costs new 1500€ i have 70-120 fps in 1440p depending on the game and if i tune settings i could get the magic 60+ in 4k in almost every game i think. I dont think you should pay above that tbh

@BasedVidya 3 ай бұрын

5600x 6800xt gang. Very happy with my computer but I'm always on the hunt for deals. If I can buy and sell my mobo combo to upgrade to a 7000 series cpu for $100, I'll do it

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

not big enough upgrade over 5600x

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

7700x bundles can be had for 350-400. Not sure how much you can get for a used 5600x am4 bundle though. If you could get $200 for that and snag the 7700x bundle on sale for 350 somehow, it'd be a pretty big upgrade for $150. Good luck lol!

@Kadeda 3 ай бұрын

I think you underestimate the 6600. It can play pretty much any game not named starfield at 1080p and with fsr... can play even starfield.

@PhillKaggitz 3 ай бұрын

Was able to score a 4080 super for 830 in Best Buy a couple of weeks ago.

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

Open box?

@PhillKaggitz 3 ай бұрын

@@joshholmes1372 Yep, got a buddy that works at Best Buy. Texted me that some guy returned a rtx4080 Super because he got a 4090 instead. The box was opened, but the card was never installed.

@Techmister538 3 ай бұрын

Spend what ya like but don’t expect to be playing any decent games for a year or so as there is nothing much on the horizon that warrants any spend😢😮and that surely is the point!

@CarnivoryHODL 3 ай бұрын

1st build was ~$2500. 4090 w/ 7800x3d. No frills.

@ckling217 3 ай бұрын

We're you able to get an RTX 4090 at MSRP? Because, if not, the 4090 and 7800x3d alone cost about $2400.

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

Yeah 4090 for 1600 + 7800x3d bundle, mobo + ddr5 ram bundle for 450 and you're at 2050 before tax, leaving case, PSU, cpu cooler, additional case fans and storage. I'd rock something like montech air 903 max as it comes with 4 fans and a fan hub and add a few more exhaust fans on top. Then a 1000w gold psu B or higher on the tier list. Storage has gone up a ton, but you can snag 2tb gen 4 nvme for 100-120 sometimes. Tight fit, but you can pull off 4090/78000x3d at $2500. Assuming yiu get 4090 at msrp and 7800x3d bundle

@CarnivoryHODL 3 ай бұрын

@@ckling217 Yeah, MSRP minus 10% Best Buy credit card offer. Got lucky.

@CarnivoryHODL 3 ай бұрын

@@joshholmes1372 I actually overpaid for multiple components & still made it work. Got 4090 for $1440 using Best Buy credit card 10% promo, got lucky.

@ckling217 3 ай бұрын

@joshholmes1372 Lowest I could find a 4090 at in the last few months was $1800 and I bought a 7800x3d on sale for $360, which totals $2160 alone. I don't see a 7800x3d cpu, mobo and 32GB DDR5 ram bundle out there at the price you are suggesting. I guess with less expensive RAM, mobo, PSU, cpu cooler, SSD and case fans you could build something for $2600-2700 today. Which isn't far off.

@CrashBashL 3 ай бұрын

What's the best CHEAP GPU, today, for 4K gaming at stable 30 FPS ?! Locked 30 FPS. I got an Ryzen 1600 and a GTX 1070 but got a new 4K LG C3 and I just want a GPU to couple with that Ryzen 1600 for 4K gaming till I eventually build a new gaming system. A GPU with 16Gb Vram cause I don't think that 12Gb will suffice.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

your cpu cannot handle new gpus

@CrashBashL 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 Sure it does. I'm looking right now at a test. Ryzen 1600 vs Ryzen 5 7600 in 4K gaming. RTX 4090, and the best current hardware in the market to eliminate any kind of GPU bottleneck, Cyberpunk 4K everything on max with maxed RT and the system got 32FPS on the Ryzen 5 7600 and 26FPS on the 1600, 1% low. Sure, I could get a Ryzen 5600 but like I said, I am looking for the best cheap GPU 16Gb to couple with that Ryzen 1600 for 30FPS till I'll eventually build a new gaming system. I don't intend to play my games on ultra settings, but just to keep a stable, locked 30FPS.

@JackJohnson-br4qr 3 ай бұрын

I have an LG C1 and I play only new single player AAA games like Alan Wake 2, The Last of Us Part 1 or Ratchet & Clank and I'm using an RX 6800 XT at 4K high/medium settings with FSR quality and I'm getting (at least) 60 FPS every time. For 30 FPS 4K native you would be ok with the 7600 XT. Sometimes with a little help from FSR. The problem is there are not many cheap 16GB cards. Only the 7600 XT from $325 or 4060 Ti from $385 if you "need" Nvidia. Or the 6800 from $380 - the best price/performance choice of all.

@CrashBashL 3 ай бұрын

@@JackJohnson-br4qr Thx for the reply. And what's your CPU?

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@CrashBashL used 68xt/6900

@purgedome2386 3 ай бұрын

Hehe.. no fan of RGB.. think it attracts spiders/bugs to my case ;p I use an app to disable the RGB of my G.Skill memory sticks.. had to dissect my TM joystick just to disable the light which turns on on movement and d/l reddragon mouse just to disable the mouse lighting.(edit: my corsair keyboard didn't need software to disable the RGB) All that energy saving.. I'm sure I am able to save for a 5090.. hopefully with no RGB or I couldn't afford it then.

@moichamoy2274 3 ай бұрын

Performance and quality should go hand in hand since not all motherboards have good quality. The same goes with every part of a PC especially on power supply don't cheap out on parts either

@Saki630 3 ай бұрын

You want performance and quality to go up and price to go down? He spends this video and the last giving valuable information where he shares that the PSU choice is not the best, how to check online for more insight on this very important component, and even says here he would change it out for the 4080/4090. You think your 2 sentences are enough for people to believe that this guy is lying and trying to get you to make bad decisions?

@moichamoy2274 3 ай бұрын

@@Saki630I'm assuming you didn't understand what I meant by performance and quality should go hand in hand. Just cause a product is more expensive doesn't mean it's good quality and just cause a product is cheaper doesn't mean it's bad quality. It applies to just about any product never said Daniel is giving bad advice just stated quality should be a factor as well when building a PC.

@donjuan2001 3 ай бұрын

Enough to be disappointed in your lack of restraint

@Nekololizu 3 ай бұрын

What about just getting a modern apu and skipping out on gpu if on a budget / getting a used gpu later on etc ? would push the price down quite a bit and probly play any games around 1080p just fine~ while still keeping upgrade paths open with the mobo, gpu prices have been really stupid for a couple of years now and ofc it depends on if you play really graphically demanding or esport/cpu bottleneck ish games, Just feels a bit weird that you ignored the apu option all together especially when all the cheaper/lower gpu options are not really worth it value/performance wise.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Rx 6600 is $189 and crushes any APU, so I'd recommend spending less on the CPU, or even going with a used CPU/mobo combo to fit in an rx6600. APUs make sense in handhelds, laptops, and extremely tiny builds.

@Nekololizu 3 ай бұрын

@@danielowentechFair enough ^^

@zdenek75a 3 ай бұрын

For example, 6700XT mentioned in video has 150FPS in 1080p and 114FPS in 1440p based on 14 games average (Hardware unboxed 6700xt review).. So maybe overkill for 1080p, 120Hz FHD monitor. Point is, whether it is not better get 600$ build and every 2years just upgrade GPU or CPU afterwards. Definitely better to upgrade (reselling used parts CPU/GPU) every 2years than stick to 2700$ build for 8 years, am I wrong?

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

youre wrong

@zdenek75a 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 Be more specific please. My point is, that if you buy 2700$ top build now and I will have a build for 600$ with possibility to upgrade every two years, I am allowed to upgrade 4x (after 2,4,6 and 8 years). 2700-600=1900 1900/4=475 So I can spend every 2years 475+200=675$ on upgrade (lets say you sell old GPU for 200$). What will looks like my rig after 8 years compared to that toptop at the end? That 2700$ build will nearly 0 value and on the other hand, that upgrade by time computer will still be on middle to high. And all that because at the start you will say 1080p at 120Hz is my goal for first step (and not 4K). Good to say, that at the beginning you will have to invest more into 1440p 244Hz or 4K monitor just to USE all that 4090 sheer power. More to it, your power consumption, based on EU avg price of 0.3EUR/kWh and lets say 2.5 hours of gaming, you will pay per year 50 USD more, so you can use in fact you can spend every 2 years 675+100 -> 775$ for decent upgrade. Sounds good to me to stay on track. Possible with decent power supply at the start and long-life platform (like AMD)

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@zdenek75a always better to keep your hardware as long as possible to get everything out of it so skip 1-2 gens. You dont notice much of a gains just in one gen and youre just wasting your money.

@Darkswordz 3 ай бұрын

I think $1,000.00 USD is the best starting point for building a brand new gaming PC in 2024. You can still play all modern games, and have upgradability.

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

Definitely if you go AM5 and get a good bundle. Although I'd argue pushing to 1200 to get a gpu that will last longer. Just depends on current budget and how soon you plan/want to upgrade

@H786... 2 ай бұрын

i think ali express changes the game. 250 bucks is a no brainer for a 7800x3d

@nttinvis 3 ай бұрын

I got a 4070 super and 5600g definitely cpu bottleneck at 1440p im thinking 7800x3d?

@Lkss99 3 ай бұрын

Just get a 5800x3d

@nttinvis 3 ай бұрын

@Lkss99 dead platform and its like $320 vs $360 for 7800

@JackJohnson-br4qr 3 ай бұрын

@@Lkss99 Nonsense. Buy a 5700X3D and you would get roughly the 7600 performance. The 5800X3D is only 5% stronger but costs at least $50 more. Look at the Hardware Unboxed review. The 7800X3D is the strongest gaming CPU on the market and people pair it with a 4090. The 5700X3D is 50% stronger than the 5600G. It's all you need for the 4070 Super. And if not, you are doing something wrong.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

12gb gpu is gonna age like milk

@nttinvis 3 ай бұрын

@lifemocker85 depends on the game i plan on getting 5090 (if i have enough by then) 4090 isn't good enough for the price and 12 is fine for most games only new titles at max graphics but even then the card would probably be a 1080p card anyway to get playable framerates

@0x8badbeef 3 ай бұрын

I balance my fans to minimize noise. My rig runs hotter than it should.

@ParacelsusCaspari 3 ай бұрын

my first build from jan 2023 was ~$2500, 4070 ti + 7700x. since then i’ve added a ton more m.2 storage to it and got gifted a 4080 as a free upgrade.

@Destro_TJ 3 ай бұрын

I think AMD CPU 7800x3d is way to go

@SWOgottaGO 3 ай бұрын

Let's go

@metalface_villain 3 ай бұрын

oh no, the pc isn't white with disco lights, what are we gonna do now? 😂🤣

@mattstansbeary3068 3 ай бұрын

Go all black & Disco lights. But yes the Disco lights are Extra and really up to the Person to go with or without.

@dekaeypatrick4553 3 ай бұрын

Mister patoto Boulder omg

@vinihs2 3 ай бұрын

Ive bought a ryzen 5600 and 4070ti super 32gb ram what do you say?

@JackJohnson-br4qr 3 ай бұрын

It depends on the resolution and games you play. The number of frames is the most influencing factor for CPU load. If you play around 60 FPS with higher settings and resolutions the 5600 is mostly OK. But if you want to play at 1080p Medium, the 4070 Ti Super is powerful enough to jump performance over 150 FPS even in very graphically demanding AAA games. Then the 5600 isn't enough.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

4070ti super is badly overpriced

@joshholmes1372 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85everything is tbh. Outside of 6800

@amirafshar2580 3 ай бұрын

Your CPU is not good you can't upgrade if I were in your shoes I would buy rtx4070super but instead buy a better CPU like 7600x or non x

@vinihs2 3 ай бұрын

I felll it struggle on games that require cpu like cyberpunk sometimes the gpu is only on 80% of use and de cpu 78% but I still get 100+ fps with FG on but I dont play competitive games and the high demand games will play around 80+ fps on ultra but yeah the cpu can’t push the card sometimes

@delboy6384 3 ай бұрын

You should wait 12 months

@westlane0926 3 ай бұрын

you could say this every single time. in 12 months more performance for less than today. never build a pc bros just wait

@delboy6384 3 ай бұрын

The new cycle is due in 2025, the next cycle after that won't be in 2026..........

@drblitz3092 3 ай бұрын

@@westlane0926 the 5090 is gonna be something else. 4090 touched the surface. i skipped the 4090. im not skipping the 5090

@binks_jim 3 ай бұрын

I'm waiting for 8070 ti with absurd ram and performance. In 10 years, when it's on sale, lol.

@theanimerapper6351 3 ай бұрын

@@delboy6384 This is the exact reason I'm waiting. If you didn't buy the rx7000/rtx4000 already then you might as well live with your current computer and keep on saving

@sethdou10 3 ай бұрын

5600 + 4070 super is best choice for most gamers.

@drblitz3092 3 ай бұрын

$5k 4090/14900 custom loop or nothing

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

5k isn't enough for a dream pc

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

4090 and 14900 is already 3.5k 😂 that's 1.5k for a z790 64gb of ddr5 4tb m2ssd etc no chance. My case is 500 dollars 😂

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

no value there

@bossman7278 3 ай бұрын

all that's great but just how much should you spend on a gaming pc.???? prebuilt 😎👍

@jonathansaindon788 3 ай бұрын

Anyone playing on PC at 60 fps should have bought a console.

@patrickjames3321 3 ай бұрын

None, wait for next gen unless you find a steal used.

@lltheFacell 3 ай бұрын

White is dumb and trendy. For ascetics, I only spent an extra 100 or so for the fractal design north case and couldn’t be happier.

@MrSamadolfo 3 ай бұрын

🙂 i think u should look at the lenovo prebuilt on microcenter and newegg, 700 and 650, u get ryzen 5 or 7 and a 3060 card, use that as a metric for price and specs, then look at all the other prebuilts, then see if u can beat it using parts and build it urself. Dont spend too much unecesarily if ur just going to play a couple very light free to play games.