Best Value Gaming PC Build March 2024!!!

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How to prioritize the budget for a gaming PC build in March of 2024. Don't waste money on the wrong parts. Here we looks at how to get great bang for the buck without serious quality compromises on the components.
Parts list: (Keep in mind exact prices will vary from when I filmed)
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X: amzn.to/3TBFNmp
(Non-x is good too, but was out of stock when filming)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin amzn.to/4a7o23H
Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2: amzn.to/3wEP5Vo
RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30: amzn.to/49Db2CW
SSD: 2 TB PCIe Gen 4: amzn.to/3PzEPEP
Case (Others are fine): Montech AIR 903 MAX amzn.to/3PdfPCP
PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2: amzn.to/3Ts30Hm
GPU choice should vary by your max budget and will have the largest impact on gaming performance out of any single part:
$1100 Build GPU: RX 6800 amzn.to/49Ig695
$1300 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Super amzn.to/49KIzew
$1300 Build GPU (AMD Option): RX 7900 GRE amzn.to/48F1gio
$1500 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super amzn.to/3IsP8GB
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Greenscreen: Emart Collapsable amzn.to/3AGjQXx
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Chapters:
0:00 I was sent this $1500 build... we can definitely improve it
0:23 I will be explaining the thought process, not just giving a part list
0:55 Check out Jawa: where gamers buy, build, and sell!
2:25 What do I think about this $1500 build from a viewer?
2:51 Don't overspend on the CPU and motherboard for a gaming PC
4:17 Choosing a gaming CPU (thought process)
10:32 Choosing a motherboard
14:21 Choosing a CPU cooler
15:16 Choosing RAM
20:10 Choosing an SSD
25:07 Choosing a case and case fans
28:07 Choosing a power supply
34:17 Where are we at price wise compared to the viewer build if we use the same GPU?
35:23 We have a lot more money to spend now if we stick to original budget. What to spend it on?
37:14 Choosing a GPU for the $1100 budget: Stick with the RX 6800
38:05 Choosing a GPU for a $1300 build budget
39:42 Choosing a GPU for a $1500 build budget
41:30 Thanks!

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@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

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@dlbsyst 3 ай бұрын

Hi Daniel. Jawa is an option, but I have had luck lately selling my upgraded parts on Offer Up.

@jesusskates8 3 ай бұрын

Would love to see a sub $1,000 build with the current market!! Curious what you can pull off!

@NotoriousJnX 3 ай бұрын

I built your November 2023 Best Value Gaming Build last month only exception I went for a 2TB SSD-was able to come in close to the $1K budget and it’s running awesome👍🏼

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Glad it's working well for you!

@louisfriend9323 3 ай бұрын

@@danielowentech so good to do this live i.e. real-time, PC Builder can learn from you! 7900 XT also very good instead of the 4070 Ti Super.

@Ralipsi 3 ай бұрын

That is a very good crash course on gaming PC build!

@dotxyn 3 ай бұрын

Be aware that the HDV/M.2 does not have any RGB headers. When I had mine, I needed to buy an ARGB controller to control the RGB on my fans.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Good point. I was going for a no-RGB build so I didn't mention it, but for anyone using this build as a reference, but adding in RGB this would be very relevant information.

@tonydalimata 3 ай бұрын

Oh ouch , RGB adds 10% fps across the board

@RavnHood 3 ай бұрын

Bahaha 😂

@HardwareAccent 3 ай бұрын

I see it as an advantage of the board. RGB takes away from performance budget and complicates cabling.

@namelessking5181 3 ай бұрын

What argb controller did you buy? I'm planning to buy the same motherboard and i would like to have rgb

@wumbology72 3 ай бұрын

just want to add i bought that exact silicon power ssd like 6 months ago and it is working just fine. i dont get the full speed since i only have a gen 3 motherboard so i cant comment on that, but its not like a scam or anything compared to the samsung. also the 7900xt is currently $700 on amazon which is 3% more raster, 4 more gb of vram and $100 cheaper than a 4070ti super.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Parts list: (Keep in mind exact prices will vary from when I filmed) CPU: Ryzen 5 7600X: amzn.to/3TBFNmp (Non-x is good too, but was out of stock when filming) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin amzn.to/4a7o23H Motherboard: ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2: amzn.to/3wEP5Vo RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30: amzn.to/49Db2CW SSD: 2 TB PCIe Gen 4: amzn.to/3PzEPEP Case (Others are fine): Montech AIR 903 MAX amzn.to/3PdfPCP PSU: Cooler Master MWE Gold 850 V2: amzn.to/3Ts30Hm GPU choice should vary by your max budget and will have the largest impact on gaming performance out of any single part: $1100 Build GPU: RX 6800 amzn.to/49Ig695 $1300 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Super amzn.to/49KIzew $1300 Build GPU (AMD Option): RX 7900 GRE amzn.to/48F1gio $1500 Build GPU: RTX 4070 Ti Super amzn.to/3IsP8GB Disclosure: The links above are affiliate links, so I earn money on qualifying purchases at no additional cost to you.

@amgcedes9463 3 ай бұрын

I wish viewers would include their monitor specs and favorite genre of games, because the optimal build can vary drastically if they play mainly singleplayer 4k, versus 1080p 240hz+ multiplayer. However without this information I still think it’s a good idea to recommend a CPU heavy alternative. Knowing that 1080p/1440p make up the overwhelming majority, and checking online stats we can see games like CS2, Valorant, Fortnite, Apex Legends, R6S, PUBG, Rust, etc are the most popular. In these multiplayer games it’s common to see the 7800x3d being 20-30% faster. I would’ve included a 7800x3d alternative with a somewhat slower GPU (7900gre, 7900xt, 4070S), but still very solid for 1440p on more GPU bound titles.

@SpaceChicken 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video, Daniel. Excellent information and very measured, logical takes. Can tell you're a teacher.

@eisamahmood5608 3 ай бұрын

Just built my first gaming pc 3 days ago and so happy that my own research matches most of Daniel's! Bought a 7800xt and in the UK totalled around £1250 on hardware :D

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

❤❤❤ Well done 👏

@wayneosman8971 3 ай бұрын

Thank You for making video. Everything you presented, in real time and so descriptive to detail. I believe you never lost a single viewer watching this one! WOW, you really hit the nail on the head! At the very beginning mentioning, it's been a long time since you made a build guide video. You almost left me speechless. Still I have to say, Please make more

@thedarkmask4155 3 ай бұрын

Exactly the kind of build i was pondering about for weeks and weeks, finally i can see it in an actual simulation build. Would love to see benchmarks on this thing if possible. Great video. ❤

@angrypickle6346 3 ай бұрын

Everyone that wants to build a pc should watch this. I will save this link in my notes and send it to people asking questions about building. Good job.

@garytrawinski1843 3 ай бұрын

Great Video Daniel!

@lukasdu69 3 ай бұрын

It's a nice guide ! I know they are not available to everyone (depending on location), but I think the MicroCenter CPU bundles are insane value for builds like this !

@davidtsw 3 ай бұрын

I can confirm the PA120 is a great cooler. Got it for my 5700x3d that I got for MSFS. Works like like a charm, quiet and cool

@cebuanostud 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for making this video, Daniel. 😆

@dylanjastle 3 ай бұрын

Great bedtime vid

@procrastinates 3 ай бұрын

I actually have a 1TB Teamgroup MP33 in my rig. For under $60, it's a solid 1TB M.2 for storing my Steam Library.

@jamesbp 3 ай бұрын

I think for new comers this is a absolute gem of a video good job my friend. I can vouch for jawa I've bought so many parts from them crazy good deals! Got a 4080 for $870 and 13600k for $200.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

bad choices

@jamesbp 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85They're not in the same rig good sir. With that said I disagree... They're great choices as the 13600k is paired with a 3080 and the 4080 is paired with a 14700k.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@jamesbp doesnt matter. They shouldnt be in any rig

@jamesbp 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 Rather than debate, I'm interested in what parts you would have chosen then?

@singwolf. 3 ай бұрын

Just got 7600x & 7900 GRE, a gaming beast

@zerorequiem42 3 ай бұрын

I have a 7600x, but still looking for a gpu. What kind of performance are you seeing with the 7900 GRE in the games you play?

@amz212 3 ай бұрын

@@zerorequiem42 basically a lil faster than the 4070 super in raster. ray tracing slightly behind 4070

@singwolf. 3 ай бұрын

@@zerorequiem42 I'm playing bg3 now, I'll grind Elden Ring dlc soon, and sometimes fps. (4K 60Hz)

@JBrinx18 3 ай бұрын

Have you tried OCing it? I hear it really bumps up with an OC, like how GPUs used to be

@ZackSNetwork 3 ай бұрын

@@singwolf.The 7900 GRE is not a 4K GPU at all. Its memory bandwidth and slower memory will hold it behind also.

@TigonIII 3 ай бұрын

I like how it was a white small build and you just threw all of that to the side. Although I will say that you should expect to set aside a couple of hundred dollars of your budget, if you want a specific look and color and of course rgb. And also if you just want those specific name brands, like the Samsung NVMe, Teamgroup RAM and SeaSonic power.

@jaquestraw1 3 ай бұрын

Excellent build advice. Wouldn't change a thing

@lyserberg 3 ай бұрын

Dan is so fucking goated man

@BowIcut 3 ай бұрын

would you put a micro ATX motherboard into a mid tower too?

@jeremyg2236 3 ай бұрын

@@BowIcut there are no reason not to. ATX motherboard just adds a bit of size to it. Besides your motherboard will be stuffed with various parts, cooler, gpu, ram, etc. Idk why the idea of mATX motherboard inside ATX case is overlooked by most people, just because of the "looks".

@BowIcut 3 ай бұрын

@@jeremyg2236 do the actual holes for screws on motherboard and case align? do the rear ports align?

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

stupid to invest into dead platform

@Buzzsaw72 3 ай бұрын

This was a great video going through the process and thinking involved in selecting parts. the one problem with is was I noticed the build was all white components. That added at least $150 to the motherboard on the AM5 platform...ouch! It also impacted the GPU options/prices a little too.

@fryomg6657 3 ай бұрын

14:45 Bro, id-cooling 214 its a banger in east EU market already a bout 4 years. Its a solid cooler for this money for cpus up to 150 watts. I know that assassin its a banger too in US market.

@ajuzumaki73 3 ай бұрын

Although the possibility of 5 generational CPU upgrade over the same AM5 socket sounds compelling, but we need to consider that the newly generational motherboard might need further additional upgrades such as GDDR7 PCIe lane for the upcoming RTX 5000 Series.

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

Built my setup with the 7600x and the 4070 super like a week ago. Fantastic. The other parts are a bit different though cause of personal preferences, use case and brand images.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

12gb gpu is waste of money in 2020s

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 u do u, i do me

@genericyoutubeaccount579 3 ай бұрын

I would be interested in your opinion on a $1100 budget micro center build for gaming/CAD workload.

@o0Silverwolf0o 3 ай бұрын

I went with the 2tb samsung 990pro not because of name brand but the 7450/6900 speeds for $165. Chose more budget conscious options for the remaining 8tb accross 3 additional m.2 nvme drives.

@inqizzo 3 ай бұрын

You should have picked the arctic freezer 36 insted, its an insane deal right now, and at higher rpm its better fans show in the pitch

@Lucromis 3 ай бұрын

I’d buy a 7600x cpu today for anything midrange. Amazing performance, and on a platform to upgrade later by a lot.

@onehandedbandit5957 3 ай бұрын

I will say that most gamers now run discord and usually audio and screen cap software via Icue or nvida and with all of that running it is definitely can eat up that performance on lower core count cpu's. I upgraded to the 1300k i7 and when im streaming and watching my friends stream it is definetely a solid cpu that my previous i5 couldnt as a 6 core.

@benjamind547 3 ай бұрын

I watched a video by Tech Deals not too long ago, and he said that if you're wanting to use a multi-screen setup (such as dual-screen) + multitask whilst gaming, the extra cores will come in handy over a 7600X. What do you think about that?

@rzkrdn8650 3 ай бұрын

Pretty surprised my newly built pc is the same with this video for the large part. 7500F + used rx6800 (used, $257 !). This bang for the buck $1000 build is cannot be beaten at 1440p

@keevacarroll5768 3 ай бұрын

This is pretty much the build im planning lol. Aesthetics be damned 😅

@Ay-xq7mj 3 ай бұрын

I run a 7800x3d with 3070ti because i play mostly mid gpu requirements games, do some video editing a lot of emulation. Also RTS/sim type games usually cpu is more important.

@ssjbargainsale 3 ай бұрын

How does it do with PS3 emulation? Any issues?

@Ay-xq7mj 3 ай бұрын

@@ssjbargainsale TLDR Basically hit and miss some might be broken, some cant reach 60 fps some struggle for 45 fps. Depends on game. I use 'questionably obtained' ps3 games however games struggle functioning even ignoring cpu speed issues or broken game dump issues. Like motorstorm has a bug where vehicle randomly explodes/crashes. (very common) Ratchet ps2 ports work well (outside the port original bugs with helmets and 4:3 cutscenes in 16:9 rendering things not intended) Ratchet ps3 native games have issues with crashing. I havent tested performance with very many games. I think Ratchet games ps2 and ps3 should be fine. Infamous 1/2 is going too far a bit you can run them barely its like 30-45 fps sometimes 60 fps. Probably higher than on ps3 or close to same. Using AMD's upscale in RPCS3 improves visuals with Infamous 2. Infamous 2 also only runs correctly in 720p certain things like Coles face dont render over 720p. On Jak ps3 ports none should be played they can control bugs opengoal ports or PCSX2 is superior. Also Ratchet Deadlocked on ps3 i heard is badly ported so there PCSX2 is also better. Also any bug i mention are real RPCS3 bugs and not related to ARRRR game copies or CPU speed issues.

@ZackSNetwork 3 ай бұрын

@@ssjbargainsaleAMD is not the best with emulation unfortunately.

@ssjbargainsale 3 ай бұрын

@@ZackSNetwork thats sad to hear. Probably gonna go with a 7700x since its cheaper. Thanks for the reply

@jeremyg2236 3 ай бұрын

@@ZackSNetwork source?

@benzost920 3 ай бұрын

As of prices today, I think buying an 8-core Ryzen 7700 is for $272 is smart because it comes with a perfectly adequate Wraith Prism cooler.

@dungeondeezdragons4242 3 ай бұрын

Montech 903 is a great case

@malvinchau2056 3 ай бұрын

PA120 does have an argb variant if you really want rgb

@katonryuka 2 ай бұрын

Hey i would like advice, im slowly upgrading my pc, first i decided i was good with 1440p so i got a good deal on a 7800xt (had an 1160ti of 6GB), i still have my b450 motherboard with a ryzen 2600x, i am still unsure if its worth it to get a ryzen 5700x or take the big leap onto a new board with a 7600x , i am struggling cus i can only afford one part per month or two

@JamesRussoMillas 3 ай бұрын

I would go 7700 and 7900xt on this and call it a day.

@MistySkiess 3 ай бұрын

Damn it's like I read your mind I just bought a Ryzen 5 7600 (£189) and RX 7900 GRE (£529.99) yesterday lol.

@michahojwa8132 3 ай бұрын

Daniel, I've heard Moores law is dead has asked you for interview. Fabio and Vex were already on the show. Please agree for interview. Me, and I think Tom too, like different way you benchmark the games. I'm watching you from nearly the begining. I Think it would be cool conversation.

@TheDarksideFNothing 3 ай бұрын

Point if note too, put the 7600x in eco mode and it loses negligible performance and dramatically reduces wattage and makes it a lot easier to cool. Basically makes it a 7600 non-x

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

If I'm not completely wrong, in ur usual workload the 7600x does not use its max wattage if u look for some reviews, but is working pretty similar to the 7600. So I didn't cut the power myself, but didn't compare the power usage over time either. Compared to any Intel CPU it's super efficient either way.

@TheDarksideFNothing 3 ай бұрын

@@paulusapfel I'm not 100% sure, I'm just recalling the 7600 reviews where the big takeaway was significantly reduced power usage and temps with a pretty negligible reduction in performance. And IIRC, eco mode on 7600x pretty closely mirrored it. I could see where if you're running GPU limited it might avoid that turboing behavior that pushes the wattage up, but I have no direct info for that. Either way, I recall feeling like eco mode or 7600 non-x being a very worthwhile trade-off.

@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis 3 ай бұрын

M.2 really went up in price Remember when they were 70$+ for 2 tbs Glad i bought 5 4tb m.2 gen 4 for 150$ each befor they went up

@dvxAznxvb 3 ай бұрын

GPU is 50% of the budget of the whole build of the tower (either figure out what GPU you like then try to fit a CPU and Mobo around that same price or plan a PC then look at the pricing before adding the GPU and that price would be the aspect of how much you should plan to pay) target resolution is important to see what vram to proritze CPU barely has influence on gaming and cache is king over cores and ghz All the other accessories and components are to be built around keeping CPU and GPU stable by cooling and quality of products (VRM, power delivery, etc)

@SledheadGaming 3 ай бұрын

Gigabyte b650m aurous elite ax or 650 has been my favorite motherboard to use for buildint this go around

@TexasJoe1985 3 ай бұрын

If you're going for max gaming performance, then you should keep the 7600 and go with a 4070 Ti Super.

@elitepauper7400 3 ай бұрын

youd save a few bucks going 7900XT and get more vram+ better raster performance

@EjayT06 3 ай бұрын

@@elitepauper7400 you would save money for sure. But 4070ti super is actually an alright deal (compared to other current cards). 16 vs 20GB VRAM isn’t going to make much of a difference, raster performance is only slightly worse and you get DLSS and better ray tracing. But I think you can go either way, just nice to be able to turn on all features and not worry about it with the 4070ti super. At around 500-600, though, I would definitely go for the 7800 XT over the 4070 Super.

@mathewhex7045 3 ай бұрын

A xx600 sku be it amd or intel is plenty. Tbh i would go am4 and buy used across the board save my ssd(s) if i was building today

@seanoconnor8843 3 ай бұрын

I'm enjoying a Chinese mb with a 12500H soldered on. 32GB 3200Hz and 1TB m.2. Threw in a battered old second hand 2080Ti. £500 for everything

@slasherrrr316 3 ай бұрын

I'm definitely saving this video for when I build my pc in a month or two. The CPUs and GPUs are exactly what I've been looking at. Thank-you I was looking at the Ryzen 7900x3d (seen it 50% off on Amazon in the UK). Would that be overkill for a rx7900 gre?

@wow_horac4663 3 ай бұрын

You can also check the PCBuilder youtube channel. They do build guides and monthly updates on hardware prices as well as a boost my build series that's like what this video did but for 3 or 4 different submitted builds.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

For gaming, a Ryzen 7800X3D would probably be a slightly better choice than the 7900X3D since it has a full 8 cores with v-cache rather than 6 with and 6 without. Because then you don't have to worry about whether the game is properly scheduled to the v-cache cores. If you need lots of cores for productivity, it could perhaps make sense.

@ZackSNetwork 3 ай бұрын

The 7900x3d is a garbage over priced CPU. It’s a 6 core 12 thread processor for v cache use.

@tanthokg 3 ай бұрын

I'd rather take a 7900X or a 7800X3D

@Ladioz 3 ай бұрын

I have a gen 4 m.2 nvme for my windows. my secondary slot only accepts gen 3. I went for the Samsung 980 1TB (gen 3) to store games

@dungeondeezdragons4242 3 ай бұрын

Montech titan gold is so good price/quality

@Username4453 3 ай бұрын

CPU depends on what resolution you plan on using, at 1080p competitive settings it matters, in 1440p high detail a little less, and 4k very little.

@evacody1249 3 ай бұрын

Uh? GPU is needed for that.

@Username4453 3 ай бұрын

@@evacody1249 For certain games sure. Take Spiderman Remastered for example, at 1080p the difference between a 4090 and the 4070 Super is 12 fps. When your playing games at 1080p and you don't mind lowering the graphics settings you can get away with a less expensive GPU.

@dylanj950 3 ай бұрын

This is perfect, I've been considering building a $1500-1800 PC soon, with either an RTX 4070S or RX 7900GRE at the core of it. Still don't know whether I'd want a six or eight core CPU, but since I'm only gonna be gaming and maybe streaming (to discord/my friends) and highly likely not Twitch I might just do six core

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

Go for 8 cores

@dylanj950 3 ай бұрын

@@stevieC11HanworthWhy?

@jrminate 3 ай бұрын

Go with the ryzen 7 7700 and you won't have to worry about upgrading for a long time. I would recommend the 2 extra cores any day, especially if you throw streaming into the mix.

@stevieC11Hanworth 3 ай бұрын

@@dylanj950 reasons xD.

@dylanj950 3 ай бұрын

@@jrminate I don't like incrementally upgrading my PC, my current one has been the same for 5 years aside from the addition of an M.2 recently. I would rather build a whole new PC every 5 years than upgrade like 2 components every new release

@fearch 3 ай бұрын

Looking for the most optimal build for 7800X3D and 4070 Ti Super combo

@ItalionStallion1x 3 ай бұрын

CL30 6000MHz vs CL34 7200MHz whats best for gaming competitive like cod? Thanks in advance, keep up the great work I love your videos! :)

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

well not many cpus support 7200mhz

@nossy232323 3 ай бұрын

When using an AMD CPU CL30 6000MHz is the better choice.

@ItalionStallion1x 3 ай бұрын

@@nossy232323Thank you so much for your reply!

@lautaroyaurreche 3 ай бұрын

Hey Daniel, yesterday I built my first PC and you've helped me a lot during the process. However, I'm still missing the GPU, which a friend of mine is getting for me once he gets to the US in a couple of days. I was leaning towards 7900 GRE, specifically Nitro+, since it seems to the best performing model and the best looking one by far, but it costs $600, $50 more than MSRP. Which other model do you recommend? Gigabyte version is sitting at $550 and looks good too. Hellhound seems good at $580 too, although I don't like it that much. I'd like to know your opinion. I also wanted to know if Newegg is trustworthy. Most 7900 GREs are only on Newegg and I won't be able to return the card since I don't live in the US. Should I stick to Amazon?

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

nitro was performing very badly in HUB review

@meltinsr 3 ай бұрын

take nitro+ coz is beautiful or xfx oc or if u find cheaper power color , asrock that are not reference models,they are very good brand for amd , they will make some update for 7900 gre coz is vram speed lock and u need a good cooler for oc

@notmatt5864 3 ай бұрын

I have used some non qvl ram on a ddr4 build and it was a nightmare....kept getting a blue screen toll I swapped kits.

@DisgruntledRTFan 3 ай бұрын

People building LGA1700 Intel setups and not taking advantage of the relatively cheap Z690 motherboards in the US, why? AsRock's Z690 Extreme at 130 USD and Velocita at 150 USD render any B660 and B760 moot for DDR4 and DDR5, respectively.

@TigonIII 3 ай бұрын

Only "small" problem would be having to do the bios update, so depending on the board and if the end user believes they can do it (maybe not something first time builders wants to jump into just yet), then definitely look at that.

@DisgruntledRTFan 3 ай бұрын

@@TigonIII Both motherboard manuals have pretty decent instructions on how to do Asrock's Instant Flash (i.e. CPU-less BIOS update) as well as the clearly marked USB port for this. But yes this can be daunting for a new builder. Still, there's not that huge of an upgrade going from a 12600k to a 13600k/14600k, at least not one that I think is worth the extra ~100 USD cost.

@TigonIII 3 ай бұрын

@@DisgruntledRTFan That's why I said "depending on the board", because of course it would be easier with a board that has bios-usb and that, but if you end up getting a board that doesn't then, especially as a first time builder, you might be turned off it. And yeah, I totally agree with the cpus, as we are only talking a few percentage between them.

@NulJern 3 ай бұрын

Radeon 6800 is goated imo

@Rebe-Caufman 3 ай бұрын

trash

@NulJern 3 ай бұрын

@@Rebe-Caufman not trash if you compare what you would get from nvidia for the same money 😂

@nipa5961 3 ай бұрын

The RX6800 is fantastic. Basically a modern classic.

@kotztotz3530 3 ай бұрын

For real. Best efficiency for the RX6000 series, about 5% better performance and double the VRAM of the 3070 Ti. Amazing 1440P card for years to come.

@skyltdockan 3 ай бұрын

Can you make a review video on the Geforce Now service? As HW keeps getting more and more expensive its value seems to increase. Since all the "work" is done somewhere else I can also have a very quiet and cool gaming session.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Reviewing cloud streaming can be difficult because it can be very dependent on your physical location relative to the servers, as well as your home Internet setup.

@skyltdockan 3 ай бұрын

@@danielowentech true, then again the lowest tier is free so no cost to test latency/lag. Also most people live in or near big cities with decent pipes.

@samr5125 3 ай бұрын

I think the builder want a white case and smaller form factor of it. Maybe he don't have enough space for the bigger case.

@TigonIII 3 ай бұрын

Also noticed that, and he even chose white components and white rgb fans, so it would look like he at least was going for a specific style and color.

@TheMakk3 3 ай бұрын

Really wouldn't skimp out on wattage on the power supply regardless how much power your build is going to draw. More than often the more headroom your power supply has compared to total system usage, the better the efficiency and the PSU ends up being more quiet, you are not drawing any more power from the wall than what your components use anyway. 850W-1000W+ from a reputable brand to any build is what i would recommend as a starting point.

@schmuckballs 3 ай бұрын

Is that why the Corsair sfx750 runs a 4090? Hmm maybe you don’t know what you’re talking about

@TheMakk3 3 ай бұрын

@@schmuckballs If you have a 750W PSU for a 4090, you're just stupid. End of story.

@risqlemousseux3195 3 ай бұрын

@@schmuckballs Look up PSU efficiency curves. Efficiency peaks at around 40-50% of the maximal load. This means that you will be drawing more power from the wall with your SFX750 than a 1000W PSU, while doing the same thing on your computer. More power drawn = more heat. This can be a good consideration when picking a PSU if you intend to use your computer a lot, that extra power does add up over the years on top of better comfort.

@TheMakk3 3 ай бұрын

@@risqlemousseux3195 And, when you budget a higher wattage PSU into your build, you have the headroom for future hardware upgrades without having to worry about wattage. Better efficiency also helps with PSU longevity. This is exactly why 850W minimum is what i would consider, but a 1000W+ one would be very much recommended as long as you can factor it into your budget.

@Hahahanoyes 3 ай бұрын

I just would hate to spend $1200-1400 and not be able to play new games with features like ray tracing. 4070 super is the way to go. Anything needing 16gb of vram, the gre wont be able to play it at 1440p high settings anyway and all new games that are taxing on gpu will have dlss which will lower vram usage

@jamesgodfrey1322 3 ай бұрын

I would support this suggestion using an AMD CPU. This is due to this fact, AMD socket motherboards have multiple generations of CPU that use socket easy to upgrade. PSU if you are thinking of upgrading make sure you PSU has the power to handle your future upgrades.

@tomasbern7716 3 ай бұрын

Some games are cpu intensive, why not 7800x3d + 7800xt?

@gameison4813 3 ай бұрын

gpu should be at least 2x price of cpu, and can be more, 3x and more is reasonable. 200$ cpu +600$ gpu is good combo. Maybe don't buy 800-1000$ gpu without 7800x3d. It all depends on games and resolution

@HarshSingh-sn5il 3 ай бұрын

Ryzen 5 7600 (as it is only 65w and less heat compared to 7600x) and 7900GRE

@DemonDog17 3 ай бұрын

same combo but 7700 off aliexpress for £180

@amz212 3 ай бұрын

7600x was on sale for a big discount

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

7700

@DemonDog17 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 I got my 7700 for £180

@HarshSingh-sn5il 3 ай бұрын

@@amz212 Bro my friend bought 7600x and the temp reaches 90s...you have to buy a high effiency AIO...which cost much..to counterpart the temperature.

@coppertop8797 3 ай бұрын

I have a ryzen 5 3600 what would be the best/cost effective upgrade on a am4 board. Also AIO?

@mr.guillotine3766 3 ай бұрын

5700x3D if you want to save about $50 compared to the 5800x3D...the performance is often very close, so that $50 can go to your AIO...Look for an Arctic Liquid Freezer. One of the best AIO's and not even that expensive. They just released a version 3 recently.

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Ryzen 5 5600 is only $128 right now and would be a noticeable upgrade: amzn.to/3TsoK4X But the Ryzen 5700X3D for $247 gets you almost the fastest performance your motherboard will support: amzn.to/3v1tGFz I don't think AIO coolers are good value. I'd just get Thermalright Peerless Assassin amzn.to/4a7o23H

@Nareimooncatt 3 ай бұрын

Another category where CPU matters a ton is Microsoft Flight Sim. It's a niche game similar to e-sports, but it'll eat CPU's for lunch. Any build with that game in mind should go with either a 5800x3d or 7800x3d.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

nobody builds system just for 1 game

@Nareimooncatt 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 plenty of simmers would disagree with you. Either way, you'd ideally want to build one to handle the most demanding game you play, regardless of how many that is. That way you can ensure a pleasurable experience in all cases.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@Nareimooncatt exceptions doesnt make the rule

@Nareimooncatt 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 I'm well aware of that, but that doesn't come in to play. I was addressing the point he made about needing a powerful CPU in e-sports, pointing out another category where it matters (and probably matters more). I never said every gaming pc needed a top end processor.

@RiixuHG 3 ай бұрын

Only critique is the SSD portion - rest of it is a great vid. SSD caching as well as cache size are definitely important - spend the extra $30 on a faster SSD/one that has a good cache, definitely not worth the savings from my experience.

@benedictbadminton4993 3 ай бұрын

idk why not just get a 1TB first then slot in a 2Tb for games a month or two after. makes a lot more sense. and yea go for a better one i agree

@Alexia.K 3 ай бұрын

YES. DRAM-less drives are a pain in the arse.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

stupid to invest into dead platform

@shoobadoo123 3 ай бұрын

It doesn't really matter for a gaming pc

@Gamer-vs3xl 3 ай бұрын

@@shoobadoo123games load quicker with a faster ssd

@13bmitchell 3 ай бұрын

Glad there are sponsors, but if you sell everything you have laying around, you have nothing left for testing or when something fails........

@cfif_asd 3 ай бұрын

спасибо, купил 7800xt

@ZombieJig 3 ай бұрын

does SSD cache not matter?

@wow_horac4663 3 ай бұрын

Everything I've seen has indicated that for gaming there's no difference. For working with files (photo editing, video editing, sound editing) it improves the performance when writing large files to the drive. Advice I've seen has been "if you can get it for the same or a couple dollars more go for it but if not you can skip it" for gaming focused builds.

@jaderey467 3 ай бұрын

My goodness. Only 800 dollars for 16 gigs. I want to go back to my planet.

@Ay-xq7mj 3 ай бұрын

If in US go to microcenter if one is in your range. (if cpu/mobo combo/prices are better).

@Posh_Quack 3 ай бұрын

Got one very nearby

@2Aftw 3 ай бұрын

It's hard to beat their combo deals. $470 right now for the ryzen 7 7800x3d, Gigabyte b650 Gaming X board, and 32GB gskill DDR5-6000.

@Ay-xq7mj 3 ай бұрын

@@2Aftw Its worth noting combo deals arent always enough a improvement to justify. I was going to get one but got different parts instead because I dont like Gigabyte or ASUS. I do think microcenter in general tends lower though so worth it if not crazy far. Mine is like 20-30min.

@jovanbalandzic 3 ай бұрын

Is this good build for 1200€ and 1440p: Cpu:ryzen 5 7600x Gpu:rx 6700 xt Mobo:msi b650 tomahawk Psu:rm750e Case:td500 mesh v2 Ssd:P5 plus 1tb Ram:32gb 6000mhz (cl30-cl36) Cooler: ag620

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

6800 minimum

@Booth73 3 ай бұрын

Speaking of the esrly access videos. Is there a reason those videos caant be a background type video where i just listen to it. Every time i close it out the video just stops and i have to leaave the video up to listen to it

@Booth73 3 ай бұрын

Sorry had a splotch of water on my phone so was messing with my typing

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

I'm unaware of any settings I can control for whether the video can be played in the background by viewers.

@TomRocket-zo3hf 3 ай бұрын

danielle.

@Azhureus 3 ай бұрын

Some parts, as said in a video, are way too expensive. People usually spend extra money for non performance boost at all. Cheaper sometimes means better in building PCs.

@bryan_350_5 3 ай бұрын

the 980 Pro is not necessary tbh. A WD or Kingston SSD is cheaper and just as good

@DarkTyrantTenebria 3 ай бұрын

lookup on acer predator gm7000 2tb for 125$ edit: also Aorus Gen4 7300 for 129.99$ is also very good

@hdz77 3 ай бұрын

The Crucial T500 is also cheaper and way faster at gaming.

@DarkTyrantTenebria 3 ай бұрын

@@hdz77 I look up the specs! wow its really a great nvme ssd gen 4 for the price

@DarkTyrantTenebria 3 ай бұрын

HP FX900 Pro 2 TB much cheaper and good specs for 105$ or 4tb for 210$

@bryan_350_5 3 ай бұрын

@@DarkTyrantTenebria i assume pcie 3.0 and no dram ?

@sparklingion 3 ай бұрын

Don't get the MWE bronze or gold, too many issues from hearing my friend's in repairshops deal with them and seeing them be sold broken online a lot. Plus having custom IC's with little to no datasheets also sucks.... The pure power 12 m from be quiet is a good alternative that is usually priced similarly and a pretty good overall unit with 10 year warranty. As well if people care to learn a bit about memory tuning to save some money get the t group 5600cl46 kit, always is hynix A die IC's and will always get 6000cl30 with 36-36-30 (tRCD, tRP, tRAS) on am5 at 1.35v VDD with 1.15-1.2v SOC and 1.2-1.25v VDDIO + VDDQ At least, in my experiences (voltages can probably go lower, I have personally tested lower and seen lower but those are safe and basically guaranteed to work. You can also just copy for the most part the timings from the "Easy hynix timings for ryzen 7000" video from actually hardcore overclocking, good enough video to just copy from if you don't want to do too much manually tuning and want to just copy paste.

@martinell7672 3 ай бұрын

I got the MWE 850 Gold V2, and it's been rock solid. That said, it's more than I need, so it never has to stretch.

@DELTA9XTC 3 ай бұрын

i currently have a very old pc. i7 3770 and a gtx 1070. my plan is to buy a new case, 7800x3d with a B660 mobo and use my gtx 1070 with it for a few months until i can buy a 4080S for example. the other way around makes no sense bc the i7 3770 is already bottlenecking my 1070 massively in most games.

@DELTA9XTC 3 ай бұрын

obv B650 mobo for AM5, not B660

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

And buy the 4080, not the super version. It's just a waste of money for sometimes 0 performance increase and in some cases even a performance loss.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@paulusapfel wrong. 7900GRE do not support overprices.

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 Comparing the 4080 and the 4080 super, nothing more nothing less. And 994€ for the 4080 vs 1150€ for the 4080 super is the better deal considering they have the exact same performance. So I don't care bout any Radeon graphics card.

@ytn0mn3b 3 ай бұрын

12600 still seeming like a great deal. 88% of performance for 13700 for more than HALF the price.

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

still dead platform

@mekanikal2094 2 ай бұрын

tell me this is your first build without telling me this is your first build

@thisisashan 3 ай бұрын

IMO if you aren't building a rig for specifically what you are doing with it, you are wasting your time and resources. I tend to actually purchase much more cores than I should for gaming. But I also program, 3d model, and do massive multitasking so I have to have that 'workstation' esque perf. So for general life comfort, I don't just go with 'current gamer CPU'. Which is right now the 7800 x3d imo.

@jokingtiger 3 ай бұрын

I find it odd that you totally ignored the white aesthetic they were going for.

@rem_0 3 ай бұрын

So true, i hoped he would notice but i guess everything he was seeing is bang for the buck deals and nothing else 😂

@DELTA9XTC 3 ай бұрын

if youd rather have a 1500$ pc with a 6800 than a 1500$ pc with a 4070ti super for GAMING (otherwise the 13700k could make sense, even tho the non upgradable intel cpus arent good value at this point bc you cant upgrade without a completely new mobo) just to have a white pc, then you do you but its def not smart

@DELTA9XTC 3 ай бұрын

*i dont consider 14th gen intel an upgrade

@jokingtiger 3 ай бұрын

@@DELTA9XTC You do realize that there is white 4070ti super plus there are white variations on the other parts. Or is that too complicated for you to understand? Also, this was someone asking if his parts list for the PC he wants to build is OK. So, aesthetics do matter.

@DELTA9XTC 3 ай бұрын

@@jokingtigeryes white parts usually cost more than the black ones. often quite a bit more actually. and if there are white parts of everything anyways, it doesnt matter if Daniel shows black parts bc the ppl who want it in white, just put the white variants into the basket. the problem could be that you have to literally buy worse parts to stay within the same budget but have everything white, thats incredibly stupid to me.

@denvernaicker8250 3 ай бұрын

asrock motherboard bios versions are problematic because the newer cpus arent registered until you update the bios version, which requires an older cpu to get into the bios, i have had this issue with asrock z790 taichi and intel 14700kf cpu, and have noted on reddit that for b650 asrock it has happened to another user as well

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

stupid to invest into dead platform

@denvernaicker8250 3 ай бұрын

@lifemocker85 it isn't dead yet and no future benchmarks released of new platform

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@denvernaicker8250 next gen being another socket means its dead

@jurgengalke8127 3 ай бұрын

AM5 motherboards all have bios flashback so a cpu isnt required to flash the bios

@denvernaicker8250 3 ай бұрын

@@jurgengalke8127 asrock b550m pro4 motherboard says otherwise

@theoutsider0724 3 ай бұрын

Would you recommend the 7800xt right now?

@danielowentech 3 ай бұрын

Yes, I think the 7800XT, 7900 GRE, and 4070 Super all make sense at the $500, $550, and $590 price points respectively. Some people will be more drawn to AMD vs Nvidia in this price range. Mostly comes down to personal preference of DLSS and energy efficiency vs more VRAM.

@tomgreene5388 3 ай бұрын

i would recommend a 6950xt over the 7800xt if you can find one. or spend just a little more and go for 4070 super maybe. depends on the games you play. but the 6950xt is similar price for like 10 to 15 percent more performance.

@ZackSNetwork 3 ай бұрын

@@tomgreene5388No way the 6950xt pulls significantly more power and doesn’t have AV1.

@stefannita3439 3 ай бұрын

I would also consider a used 6800 XT

@DwaynedaGamer 3 ай бұрын

@@tomgreene5388 it makes zero sense to go for a last gen AMD card over a new gen at similar price point. You have to take into account the new features that will be exclusive to this gen and next gen. People have been crying out for a new AMD upscaling feature, so imagine choosing a last gen GPU and not being able to experience it, and other new features. A manual oc will make the 10-15% performance gap irrelevant, and I believe it would still draw less power. Also, regarding the 4070 super, there are too many things eating away at vram nowadays, especially with the frame generation being more widely accepted. 12gb 192 bus width GPU should not be on anyone's GPU shopping list. I guarantee you the majority of 4070 super owners will be looking to replace their GPUs next gen. Personally, at present if I didn't have my 7800xt I would have probably spent a little extra and got the 16gb 4070ti Super, 7900xt under $700 or wait until next gen, which isnt that far off.

@xXJogratXx 3 ай бұрын

Does that price, 1500 USD, already include taxes? I'm not from US so I don't know.

@gardianos 3 ай бұрын

definitely not. If you are from EU it's ~1800€ (+- 50)

@faerianacrafts 3 ай бұрын

Why 4070 Ti Super over 7900XT?

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

wrong choice

@faerianacrafts 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 7900XT much better

@LucituZ0815 3 ай бұрын

how is wanting to have high fps in competetive games a niche when games like warzone, apex,cs2,valorant etc are the most played games ? these games are way more played then graphic intensive single player games.

@techsamurai11 3 ай бұрын

If only building your PC wasn't such a bummer 😂 Why can't Sony or Microsoft make a PS5 Pro2 or Series X2 with a 7600x and 7900XT for $1,000?

@techsamurai11 3 ай бұрын

I forgot - super amazing video and really amazing tips and information... Of course, I'd go snowblind or fractal white north on the case. The case is everything when it comes to a PC especially in the living room next to a TV😂

@alexisjavier84 3 ай бұрын

Definitely a beast for the Budget if you wanna sacrifice Aesthetics, seems like the build he email you was all white, so he was Definitely overpaying for the look haha.

@Profetorum 3 ай бұрын

Daniel i know you make vids for a big audience, so i completely understand the goal here. Just one thing: if the user sending you this build wants to oc and is capable of doing so, the 6800 is an absolute beast in that regard. RDNA2 cards have access to morepowertools for a lot of tweaking, you can even raise the fclk to match the -XT variant and so on :) A thing i noticed with the build though is the B760M mb, paired with a 13700k... it's kind of weird and partially denies my whole point of overclocking. I do think the most efficient way for them would be to get an AMD cpu (x3d chips) , go cheap with the motherboard (the x3d chips don't pull much current anyway so vrm power delivery isn't an issue + memory oc isn't really a thing for high speeds on AM5) and run an easy 2x16 6000 MT/s setup or even ddr4 if on am4. Atleast that's what i would do

@Miataa 3 ай бұрын

have you ever considered the 7500f? they're much cheaper and only like 5% slower. you do lose the igpu tho, but i dont think you'll need it much if you just want to game since you'll invest most of your budget into the gpu anyways.

@JackJohnson-br4qr 3 ай бұрын

First) You can't buy it in the US or Europe. Only available on Aliexpress. Which means a month delivery time and potential problems with warranty and customer service. Second) It's not that cheap. It costs at least $180 without a cooler. The 7600 was $200 (with a cooler) for months. I don't know why the prices have been going up lately. But I expect them to go down again soon.

@Miataa 3 ай бұрын

@@JackJohnson-br4qr that's unfortunate. i live in asia so local online shops offer them cheap with warranties. and the 7600 is a tad bit more expensive at 215 over here, also i dont think most people would want the stock cooler(*most*). and with the amount of money saved with the 7500f (plus a few more bucks) you could buy a pretty solid air cooler like the phantom spirit/peerless assassin.

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

@@Miataa'd never buy a CPU without a igpu. Having a problem with the drivers or the graphics card or whatever and u can't get into the bios. I myself 'd have been screwed last week during building my PC due to some specific problems.

@Miataa 3 ай бұрын

@@paulusapfel doesn't hurt to keep a few discrete gpus around. but if you dont have one, the cost of buying a cheap secondhand gpu would be more expensive than simply getting the 7600/x. at that point its better to get the igpu version

@paulusapfel 3 ай бұрын

@@Miataa yeah, i just had laptops before and using their gpu is kinda difficult :D

@gwizdolby 3 ай бұрын

I don't want to poop on Your advertiser but there is something to be said for keeping your 2070 super while your 4070ti super is in new and unproven. I love a good back up plan If you have to RMA for what ever reason.

@CaptainScorpio24 3 ай бұрын

i hv kept my 3070 FE as a collector and backup gpu whike upgrading to rtx 4070 ti super gigabyte eagle oc laat month

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

stupid to get under 16gb gpu in 2020s

@CaptainScorpio24 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 we didn't hd any 16gb gpu in Nvidia lineup. it was only 3090 wd 24gb

@lifemocker85 3 ай бұрын

@@CaptainScorpio24 thats why its stupid to get their gimped & overpriced gpus

@CaptainScorpio24 3 ай бұрын

@@lifemocker85 i bought the 8gb 3070 Founders edition in jan 2021. and now upgraded to 16gb 4070 ti super eagle oc last month :)

@Lukas-lp2fz 3 ай бұрын

always choose a fractal design meshify C

@kausikkrishna8784 3 ай бұрын

Bro atx motherboard but mini atx motherboard

@zaraizara2794 3 ай бұрын

I advise against purchasing a motherboard with built-in WiFi due to its higher cost. Instead, consider opting for a more affordable motherboard and separately acquiring a WiFi dongle, which typically costs around $5.