Filmora Just CANCELLED our Lifetime Licenses.

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A very sad day for a lot of lifetime Filmora users. Filmora Just CANCELLED our Lifetime Licenses.
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@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

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@jont2576 Жыл бұрын

yes movavi maybe the first sponsor of ur channel and u certainly could make editing videos fun and easy without filmora,but why is it after all these years u are a still updating filmora and holding on to filmora's zork? and u seem pretty upset about a software, which u used to collab with but now ur just somebody that they used to know? now stop talking like some 1990s disgruntled employee movie star, and hit us up so we can start a new partnership-fimora.

@itoibo4208 Жыл бұрын

"we meant the lifetime of your plan. it died." XD

@itoibo4208 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered what made people offer lifetime plans, knowing the cost would overrun the revenue some day. Seems they just never plan to keep their end of the deal.

@mminhaz8089 Жыл бұрын

Thank you daniel batal

@chrisbaughman9860 Жыл бұрын

It's not surprising as lifetime licenses don't make $$$$ they probably thought o great we offer lifetime licenses we don't make $$$$ so let's change the policy without notifying people 1st

@nilanshgaur Жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling them out on this Daniel. Got a rude shock on opening filmora recently for a project. This is bad not only from an ethical point of view but also from a legal point of view. Thank you for being so honest and standing your ground with them on behalf of all of us. Their reply to you is shocking and disappointing to say the least. “The rules of the game cannot be changed once it begins”. Heartbreaking indeed.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Very heartbreaking. I wish they'd rethink their decision but I don't hold out much hope

@nilanshgaur Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal yeah they won’t. On a lighter note though, do not even ask them to reconsider, unless you want more “collaboration” offers 🤣

@Butterfly07949 Жыл бұрын

Yes as a subscriber to Filmora I to was thinking about the legal aspect.

@nilanshgaur Жыл бұрын

@@Butterfly07949 Yeah. From a legal standpoint, this is breach of contract but i guess, as Daniel rightly pointed out that when you “upgraded” not “updated” to Filmora X or 11 you have agreed to the ‘hidden’ change in terms and conditions of the contract and agreed to perpetual license limited to that particular version (X or 11 as the case may be) and thereby agreed to pay for the “update” to a newer version i.e 12 in this case. So they may get away with that. Very unfortunate. Thats why they are referring to Filmora 9 in their mail. Very smart.

@johnfanning4275 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal - Should contact an attorney and see if they would be open to consider a class action lawsuit on behalf of all of the "Lifetime License holders" ( seeing that the attorneys are the only ones that really make any money on these types of cases while the consumers usually just get some sort of refund for the money they spent) and sue for the right to what they paid for. Would think it would be cheaper for the company to just honor their word and let the original purchasers of Lifetime licenses continue to get free updates for life or at least for the newest version and then change the name of the Software and call it a new product going forward so it is no longer Filmora thus not covered under the initial license ( it's not like they would lose a ton of money by doing so since there are probably not that many people who bought those licenses when they were offered that still use the product. )

@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Жыл бұрын

This is _absolutely_ a breach of contract. They don't have the authority to make unilateral changes to your contract with them, unless the contract said so at the time.

@thewhitefalcon8539 Жыл бұрын

Even if the contract said so that clause is probably null and void

@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Жыл бұрын

@@thewhitefalcon8539 Not to mention that some of this would be, at best, ambiguous, and would be construed in favor of the non-drafting party (which would be Daniel).

@JWUnderwood007 Жыл бұрын

Yea well that entails litigation and litigation is expensive and their lawyers know that and bank on customers being too poor to protect their interests....

@pauls5745 Жыл бұрын

yes. their terms were not ambiguous. they clearly stated lifetime free updates. they went back on that and you'd win any claim against them in court. I hope they do the right thing and apply this refund of license credit to future "plans" + incentive

@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Жыл бұрын

@@JWUnderwood007 This could easily be a small claims case (in which attorney representation is not allowed), or a class action with a lawyer who takes the case on contingency. Just need to find an attorney that works in this area.

@Liquid_Mike Жыл бұрын

The money "lost" from grandfathering in lifetime users would've been dramatically less than the money lost from negative publicity due to this greedy move. Genius. Also: your hair is awesome, dude

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Well, how can I argue with that?

@Liquid_Mike Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal it's inarguable

@ObscurousDecorous Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as bad press.

@EmeraldMoonArt Жыл бұрын

@@ObscurousDecorous I’m afraid in this case there is. They could get slapped with a class action lawsuit if enough people hear of this or experience it start to get angry. It was a seriously stupid move on their part. To think I almost bought into a subscription today. And, very thankfully, I saw this. New Sub to this channel as well. Bad publicity in this case has stopped me from giving them my hard earned $$$. Super disappointed and disgusted.

@ayunamatsuda3481 Жыл бұрын

I found out it's China brand

@PinkManGuy Жыл бұрын

This is my very first exposure to Filmora. I had no idea what it was prior to this video, so now this video is my very first impression of them. Well done, Filmora. I hope the couple hundred dollars you made was worth the thousands in lost interest.

@Serin9X Жыл бұрын

Same. I'd never heard of them. Now I have, and probably not in the way they'd want. If I'm looking for video editing software in the future, I absolutely will not consider Filmora. It won't be an option.

@WheatGrinding Жыл бұрын

MBA mindset. They'll make a little more this quarter and less than they could have in future years.

@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 Жыл бұрын

@@WheatGrinding possibly. They may increase revenue longterm. Wouldn't be the first time.

@emperorbutts8937 Жыл бұрын

this

@user-TheTrueGibly Жыл бұрын

I remember filmora I always thought it was a virus like all other wondershare products because when you download one thing theyre like oh you want a video editor take all this crap too its got the wondershare logo on it so you cant deny the installer from downloading it tee hee!

@gozirraizroose Жыл бұрын

I bought Fruity Loops (now FL Studio) back in the mid 1990's on a $99 Lifetime License. To this day I still get free updates / upgrades. There are companies that honor their license agreements with their end users. Filmora obviously isn't one of those anymore. You are completely right around calling them out.

@zapjunkie Жыл бұрын

Same here. Fruity Loops way back in the 90’s and still get free upgrades today. Amazing

@karthikdevanahalli Жыл бұрын

@@zapjunkie Do they still have lifetime license?

@jimmyjohnjuan Жыл бұрын

Cool. They probably don't want to get sued. There's probably a case with filmora. There banking on no one will spend the money to sue them.

@EverGameStudios Жыл бұрын

Wait, Fruity Loops still exist? i also bought their life time, but I stopped using them decades ago, I don't even think there's a chance I would know how to get it back now days lol

@sarowie Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyjohnjuan well, getting sued is one thing, but public image is one thing. Giving long therm costumers the updates for free as promised costs virtually no money. Taking the license away causes media backlash. That washes over. The media backlash creates a wikipedia section in the article about company and software. That will remain. Try to remove it hard enough and you get a fresh media backlash followed by yet an other section. At that point, you might as well rename the company and product and hope that no media outlet writes "they renamed them self because of media backlash due to changes in the license".

@ErikS- Жыл бұрын

It is about time something like this is brought to court. A lifetime license is a contract. And if the main selling point is "lifetime", the contract should not be able to be changed on that point.

@Luggruff Жыл бұрын

Brought to court for what? "Lifetime" in a consumer product legally means the lifetime of the product, not the consumer. Never has, never will. Just learn the language and terminology and you will have less frustrations - and wasting money on a legal battle you will lose since it is already clearly defined what it means.

@FrashGordon Жыл бұрын

@@Luggruff "legally means the lifetime of the product" Yes, and they are still making the product, which means the "lifetime" licensing should still apply.

@JosephDalrymple Жыл бұрын

@@Luggruff You'd be right if that isn't how the licenses have been functioning this whole time... It's the fact that the license for Filmora 6, 7, 8, 9 have functioned the same way this whole time. Now all of a sudden they don't? If Lifetime previously functionally meant "free updates to every subsequent version", you don't get to redefine or modify how the agreement applies between two parties after the fact. It doesn't work like that. That's how you get sued.

@JosephDalrymple Жыл бұрын

@@Luggruff The fact that theres precedence with Filmora's Lifetime License being compatible with every new version means that changing that is a modification of the agreement.

@Almamu Жыл бұрын

@@FrashGordon "Product's lifetime" usually refers to the specific software version. Sadly these words are confusing for most users, and doesn't help that these usually are not made clear, but generally speaking, you should always read the licenses terms when buying to really know what each term means and how it affects your license. I do feel like Filmora is in the wrong here if they weren't explicit about these things in their plans page, even if the license terms stated it, it should be obvious what that "Lifetime" plan covers to the plain eye.

@ZeeZedZee Жыл бұрын

They refuse to directly acknowledge it because they know stealth changing the terminology of the contract after the fact is grounds for a lawsuit and if they say anything directly addressing it, it’s an admission of guilt and puts them at legal liability.

@tmy8711 Жыл бұрын

This video is classy AF. Presenting facts, recognizing errors, call for correction, presents alternatives. Great vid. I don't even edit videos (yet) but when I start filmora will not be on my list of potential softwares. I won't support companies who aren't customer-centric

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the kind words ❤️

@david203 Жыл бұрын

I've looked into many non-professional video editors, and none are customer-centric, so far as I can tell, regardless of their price.

@johncressmanci Жыл бұрын

Two words: CLASS ACTION. Clobber them in court and report them your state's AG for deceptive advertising and consumer fraud. Go for discovery and subpeona the terms from when you bought it.

@DARANGULAFILM Жыл бұрын

They may just go Chapter 11 to get out from under.

@BatouOfNexus Жыл бұрын

@@DARANGULAFILMI believe bankruptcy does not exclude the debt from legal judgements in the case of fraud at the federal level so it might not help them.

@-Bill. Жыл бұрын

@@DARANGULAFILM they would have to relaunch the product as a different program to get out from under it and they would then lose all their new plan customers and name recognition. It would be much cheaper for them to just give the lifetime holders the software.

@kiramatzu Жыл бұрын

they can go to chapter 11 but that protect you from you supliers but in a discrimination class action , idont thing is valid

@alexandrkornienko8026 Жыл бұрын

if somebody start the court against Filmora - I AM IN- They were nice, but not anymore

@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын

One of the worst things a company can do is destroy its own community. Yet somehow, these companies continue to self-immolate. Thanks for sharing the issue.

@a.mo7a Жыл бұрын

When I was a kid I used to download cracked wondershare products because we didn't have copyright laws in my country... the thing that bothers me the most is that these companies punish their loyal customers to compensate for their so called lost money.

@Meekerextreme Жыл бұрын

@@a.mo7a Yeah but lets be honest would you have bought the product even? Probably NOT, I've had so many cracked versions of things over the years like AutoCAD for example at one point. I had it to play with, let's say I was unable to download it would I have bought it NO so they didn't loose anything from me. It's a made up concept that somehow they lost money because you downloaded it as a hobbyist. Only time I agree 100% is when a company downloads something and is making money from using that product. Then YES there is damages because money is being made by using that copy of the software.

@tteqhu Жыл бұрын

@@Meekerextreme Why is company different than an individual? It's the same thing If you had no alternative software, then you'd save up for paid one, or do something else entirely. It does impact developers.

@Meekerextreme Жыл бұрын

@@tteqhu No I would have never saved up to play with AutoCAD for sh!ts and giggles...LOL Same for movies, I just forgot watching most that I have seen if I had to pay to watch them all...I watch them because I can download them. Sorry I don't feel bad about it nor will I ever.

@tteqhu Жыл бұрын

@@Meekerextreme Yeah I believe you would not pay for anything. But don't justify it, let's just admit that it IS wrong, and just for your benefit. You aren't "testing" and you are taking other's work for free. Use free alternatives>support cracking paid versions

@duncanginsberg Жыл бұрын

Also, I really appreciate a content creator giving a warning on a previous sponsor and being able to talk to their audience about problems regardless of the money involved. It really shows you have a focus on helping other content creators and are not willing to sacrifice your integrity for money.

@bloodyfluffybunny7411 Жыл бұрын

yups 100%

@duncanginsberg Жыл бұрын

Ive been watching videos for a while now and i stan now.

@xybersurfer Жыл бұрын

@@duncanginsberg stan?

@jonmath4182 8 ай бұрын

@@xybersurfer who?

@xybersurfer 8 ай бұрын

@@jonmath4182 i was asking @duncanginsberg what they meant with "stan"

@RHC_NYC Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making it clear that we editors should avoid companies like Filmora. Thanks for the heads up. Word spreads quickly.

@amanda.collaud Жыл бұрын

its free anyways.. cracked versions exist.

@tifeayo Жыл бұрын

@@amanda.collaud Can you send me a link to that?

@david203 Жыл бұрын

@@amanda.collaud Some of us live by a code of ethics.

@mmpetrovich Жыл бұрын

I've had several lifetime subscriptions/licenses on software products over the years. Generally speaking, most companies have been very good about honoring these agreements even decades later. Most of them realize that the damage caused by reneging on loyal users far outweighs any costs associated with keeping their promises.

@dennis2966 Жыл бұрын

I have too. But just like this video, I've also had a number of "lifetime" licenses pulled out from under me. The excuse has always been that the product changed too much to be considered the same product related to my license.

@MitchM240 Жыл бұрын

Example of a company that has been a good actor with a lifetime licenses please.

@MitchM240 Жыл бұрын

Snag It is the worst with this. They release updates for a few months then they release a “new” version so they can say you don’t women it anymore and want you to pay again.

@littlered6340 Жыл бұрын

@@dennis2966 same. Some good, some bad. It's kinda crazy how companies do this, when their early bird supporters, who got them off the ground, are usually a much smaller part of the total userbase. There's not a huge monetary loss in just not being awful to your og supporters. 😩

@seemlesslies Жыл бұрын

A sucker is born every second. Do not buy lifetime licenses on software period at least in the US. Lifetime is when they decide not when you decide. I bought one years ago and when it got to popular and expensive for them to honor the license they stopped.

@TroubleChute Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they didn't include a key for you to use in the email. Not only do they expect you to keep using and talk good about it, but purchase it yourself as well. Completely free for them to do, but they wanted your money too.

@outhouse.wholesaler Жыл бұрын

Presumably the key would've come once they agreed on a deal

@benwhite8157 Жыл бұрын

It's amazing to me how these companies offer lifetime licenses because they're short on cash. Then, as a thank you to the people who gave them this upfront cash, they just cancel the 'lifetime' subscriptions when they decide they aren't getting enough of their improved income. This is one of the ways companies end up showing their true colors.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@TheCrafsMan Жыл бұрын

My man, I'm sorry to hear about this! But bigtime kudos to you for handling it in a calm and professional manner.

@jasonpallotto6841 Жыл бұрын

The sad part is they actually could have avoided all of this by simply renaming the product and stating it was a "new program"

@Va5e1er Жыл бұрын

They wanted it both ways. Product Brand recognition with out the actual obligations accumulated while building that Brand.

@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын

Or by saying sorry, after _ _ _ this program will no longer be supported by the lifetime warranty due to the rising costs, you will have to buy the new Program in a plan but note your old programs will still work for the users of them.

@manp1039 Жыл бұрын

that is probably a good idea. And then maybe just offer 1 or 2 updates for existing filmore license holders. But it does cause to remind me that anytime i see "lifetime" on a product and service.. that is only as good as the company staying in business or the future administrators honoring a "lifetime" deal. And I don't think it is worth making a purchase if the only way it makes sense is if it is good for my lifetime. BTW, the "lifetime" clause brings into question.. that there are some kind of time limitations. Who's lifetime are they referring to?

@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын

@@manp1039 Or lifetime of the buyer of the item like with physical items. As the second owner/person you passed it down to in family should not have the warranty for the item, as they are getting a second hand item from the original person often not paying full price for the item.

@mwcontent442 Жыл бұрын

They wouldn't have avoided any of the outrage, just another scummy business tactic where people don't want to honor "lifetime" licenses.

@azhustlin4294 Жыл бұрын

Sir, Im not a content creator, before today I have never heard of You, your channel, or the software you discuss in your video. But the algorithm suggested i watch, so I watched it. This video showed how much of an honest and straight forward guy you are. You stood up for what was right, called out the wrong, all while remaining professional. Showed true loyalty to your fans, which earned my respect, my sub, and a like.

@nick_doutrnz_entertainment Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@jbuggy21 Жыл бұрын

Me too. Good to know the KZfaq algorithm is sharing this.

@JayRope83 Жыл бұрын

Same, I don't create content and had no clue who Daniel was. But this was a great video.

@tomasmontalvo2857 Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@clonefan9472 Жыл бұрын

HAHA, same here and subbed. It's pretty crazy what we allow software companies to get away with in general. If you look deep into any terms and conditions anymore. They all basically say somewhere, "We can take this away at any time." for some reason or another.

@kuchino Жыл бұрын

Every company that starts needs people like us, then they outgrow us and become the company that thinks we need them...

@mrMotex Жыл бұрын

Never used filmora, but never will. Thanks for standing up as a voice for lifetime license holders. Subbed

@lightishredgummi9654 Жыл бұрын

they literally took the "there is no lifetime license in ba sing se" route, I can't imagine how frustrating it is to actually COMMUNICATE with them right now when they are actively and obviously ignoring half of what people say. I've been a bit bitter towards filmora since I used the free version for a high school project and didn't realize the watermark would block out nearly the ENTIRE exported video (that had to be shown in class, I was a bit embarrassed). but since I had been seeing sponsorship segment over the past couple years, I definitely wasn't expecting something like THIS to happen! I feel bad for the employees who can probably do nothing but relay information and speak as they're told.

@davidcarver9462 Жыл бұрын

Well said, ... their support is the worst

@SchizophrenicGamer Жыл бұрын

Considering this is now one of the biggest viral Filmora videos, their greed definitely hurt them. I stopped using Filmora, and now only use Resolve, because their updates didn't actually improve the software or give us much needed features, they just integrated more in app purchases for us to buy more easily. Filmora used to be one of the best entry level video editing platforms, now it's just buggier, and more expensive. There is absolutely no reason to keep using it.

@Althea-M Жыл бұрын

Exactly sometimes the updates caused more harm than it did good for me

@HasufelyArod Жыл бұрын

I'll always listen to the recommendations on the comments

@illsneakyou Жыл бұрын

Are these softwares better than iMovie?

@ReiBMK Жыл бұрын

JEWBAGEL!!! AAAAAAAA

@HasufelyArod Жыл бұрын

Is Resolve good?

@michaelcasado Жыл бұрын

Not a Filmora user, but I feel the energy over this. I and many others who use Filmic Pro to shoot with are now in this exact situation.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I have a FilmicPro lifetime license too... or had.

@Paladinleeds Жыл бұрын

Yep. I got smacked by this, too. Any alternatives you can think of that can send clean HDMI out from the phone camera (and it has to be directly clean HDMI out).

@GrowingSucculentswithLizK Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, Daniel. I too was a "Lifetime User" of Filmora 9. I do very basic video editing and have no need for the fancy features. I was happy to just keep using Filmora 9 and have no need for the UPDATE or the UPGRADE. After I updated today, the prompt to pay showed up and have now un-installed Filmora after watching your video. I'm now checking out other "GREAT" video editing software.😉 Thank you once again and wishing you all the very best. New subscriber.🥰

@Daniel_Batal 11 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@klaqua Жыл бұрын

Europe has very stringent and clear protection for purchases of products and licenses. I think this might cost Filmora a lot of money that they are not aware of or think they can ignore!

@turtlemama888 Жыл бұрын

We can hope Filmora gets a clue and hacks off, but if nit there are federal agencies that can be alerted to this. If anyone is motivated a consult with an intellectual property attorney might be worth your time.

@EverythingBattletech Жыл бұрын

Imagine thinking a Chinese company cares what Europe thinks

@korinogaro Жыл бұрын

@@EverythingBattletech Imagine that they have money and assets all over the world in banks all over the world and EU the same as US can demand banks to freeze their assets in banks... They can be also banned from VISA/Master system and PayPal.

@ruialexandre6197 Жыл бұрын

Was going to say this. Consumers in Europe have laws to protect them against this type of behaviour.

@womble321 Жыл бұрын

@@EverythingBattletech they can be banned from the European market all items sold in EU states must comply with EU regulations.

@Stanimus Жыл бұрын

I don't even use Filmora but I watched this video to the end because of just how well made it is. And that ending statement! 🔥🔥🔥

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

@emiliabunko4518 Жыл бұрын

same here

@MichaelMondragon Жыл бұрын

100% agreed. This was flawless execution of a public breakup. It's everything I've feared about paying for an up-front "lifetime" subscription. Thank you for the information.

@marcusvaldes Жыл бұрын

Haha me too! And subscribed!

@brainites Жыл бұрын

Paused at 2:40, made a comment before continuing to watch to the end. Really well made else I would have moved on after commenting.

@allen5138 Жыл бұрын

Daniel, I'm a first -time view of your channel, but this was powerful. Thanks for the effort you put into this clean and logical viewpoint. I have a lifetime license as well, and I guess I just learned it's lifetime ended. Moving on.

@andrewculley8524 Күн бұрын

Thanks for the info. They have just lost a sale as I found this video looking for Filmora reviews.

@LethalOldFart Жыл бұрын

So glad I found this. You saved me from investing money into software and a company that obviously doesn’t fulfill their promises, nor values their long term member base. That’s quite the business model at Filmora.

@OneZeeYT Жыл бұрын

Filmora support be like : I'm sorry to hear that you have had a negative experience with Filmora. It's important to thoroughly research a company and their products before making any investments. It's also a good idea to read reviews and ask for recommendations from trusted sources before making a purchase. If you have any further concerns about Filmora or their products, you may want to consider reaching out to their customer support team for assistance.

@Pterodactyl-kn3ve Жыл бұрын

I haven’t used the app much, so I went ahead and deleted it.

@17ScionFlames Жыл бұрын

This is why ppl pirate software

@iilwy Жыл бұрын

This is all I wanted to hear. I've been getting extremely frustrated with Wondershare and felt like nobody else cared. I'm happy to see everyone here shares my feelings.

@OneZeeYT Жыл бұрын

Filmora support be like XD I understand how frustrating it can be to feel like you are not being heard or that your concerns are not being taken seriously. It's important to have your voices and concerns heard, and to have a positive and satisfactory experience with a company and their products. If you have any further concerns about Wondershare or Filmora, you may want to consider reaching out to their customer support team for assistance. It's also a good idea to read reviews and ask for recommendations from trusted sources before making a purchase, to ensure that you are making an informed decision.

@k9luv3 3 ай бұрын

Wow... so glad I came across this. I almost purchased the software this morning. I will now look for other offers. Thanks!

@davideyres955 Жыл бұрын

I had the same issue on a electric monitoring hardware. It had no subscription charges, but later on they changed it to say it was free updates for 2 years and now I have to pay for it. The problem is that you need to log in to be able to see the unit and to change the battery. So they cancelled my ability to login and therefore bricked my hardware. I did capture the original T&C and there was no mention of subscription. In the end I didn’t pay them and I lost access to the hardware that I purchased. I’ve left bad reviews for this product and made people aware. Oh and also any software company is required to fix bugs by law in the uk.

@bluegizmo1983 Жыл бұрын

Good on you for calling them out!! They CANNOT just pretend all the previous Lifetime License holders are somehow the same as the Perpetual Plan holders! There is DEFINITELY a class action lawsuit here.

@ChillaxeMake Жыл бұрын

You agreed to their rules, and to be under their influence, so you agreed to this. This isn't grounds for legal action.

@pork43 Жыл бұрын

@@ChillaxeMake you can't just say "this isn't grounds for legal action" without confirmation from someone who studied law unless you are one of them

@bluegizmo1983 Жыл бұрын

@@ChillaxeMake Wrong. The issue here is the Terms of Service and the legal contract between Filmora and it's Lifetime Membership users changed after most of those users had already purchased the Lifetime Membership and agree to the TOS in place back then. In a 2007 decision, Douglas v. Talk America. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held that a business must notify users about proposed changes to the TOS and obtain their consent. That consent must be explicit, meaning that if the user simply keeps using the software after the TOS change, that is NOT good enough for consent of the new TOS changes. Since no notification was ever sent to users explaining or even mentioning the TOS changes, laws were broken.

@leonardbakers Жыл бұрын

@@ChillaxeMake "It's a private company, they can do anything they want." I bet you're behind the Twitter censorship, too.🤣

@XMysticHerox Жыл бұрын

@@ChillaxeMake Nonsense. Terms of service don't mean *anything* in regards to legality. Changing the wording from update to upgrade also does not mean anything. This is an easy class action and will bite them in the ass I guarantee you. And you certainly can't just change your contract with someone whenever you want. Private person or large corporation. Only difference is the latter often gets away with it because people don't know better.

@snap-in-placemarketingsyst6105 Жыл бұрын

In short, Wondershare deceived its early adopters to gain momentum, and now that it no longer needs them, it discards them like trash. Now we know why it is a company that shall fail. It has no ethics. We've been Filmora users since 2019. But now we're checking out Da Vinci ReSolve instantly. Thanks! And we'll be sticking to your channel to learn about all other Filmora competitors that we can gladly give our money to thanks to your continued guidance, Daniel. Because you've been honest with us all along and, unlike Filmora, we can trust YOU. You've proven your honesty. Keep it up!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Yup.

@NETWizzJbirk Жыл бұрын

If you want a great recommendation for a class-action Attourney let me know.

@ripleyk6505 Жыл бұрын

This has always been the selling point of FL Studio for me for music production. I don't do video editing, but if this happened in my field, I'd feel the same way. I expect a case out of this

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Image Line Software, the parent company which develops FL Studio, says right in its own EULA: “Image Line may immediately terminate this EULA without prior notice….” They always seem to include an escape clause nowadays which gives them wriggle room to suddenly change their policies.

@jewels3846 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal wouldn't prior website statements count as false/misleading advertising?

@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal clauses that allow companies to escape liability should all be illegal by default

@2namesmusic Жыл бұрын

@@escapetherace1943 Clauses are often put in even if they aren't enforceable. Put any clause you want & then put a "severability clause." I wouldn't want to rely on their weak contract in court. Now, we're all aware of how poor their customer service is too. This is such a bad look for them on so many levels.

@escapetherace1943 Жыл бұрын

@@2namesmusic even worse they hit his early video they sponsored him to do with a false DMCA copyright strike. Rather than honoring the license and growing new customers they've basically decided to burn it all down now. I'd never give them a cent after hearing this and I'm glad I did, because I heard someone recommend Filmora just a week ago.

@petermorgan4720 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for confirming. I wondered why I got an email asking to confirm card details after having paid for the lifetime licence. Absolutely awful.

@DallinCooper Жыл бұрын

As someone who literally uses Filmora to edit videos about ethics, this hit home so hard. I've started dabbling in Resolve and will probably do some more videos in Filmora 11, but will start transitioning away. At this point it isn't about the cost of "upgrading", it's about the principle, and I don't want to reward predatory behavior.

@BrianBoniMakes Жыл бұрын

Videos about ethics! I'm going to have a look, we need more ethics.

@giusepperana6354 Жыл бұрын

Be careful with Resolve. They catch you with being free but then they force you to buy expensive hardware to do basic things that other software can do by default. For example, from what I've heard from a friend, you have to buy a PCIe card with a dedicated HDMI output to be able to preview video on a monitor. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't use Resolve myself.

@deuswulf6193 Жыл бұрын

@@giusepperana6354 I sincerely hope you are joking, and all that was an attempt at humor.

@MarkSze Жыл бұрын

@@giusepperana6354, happy to correct you there - you don't need to purchase special hardware to use Davinci Resolve...

@n_3719 Жыл бұрын

@@giusepperana6354 1: if you have the studio version, you can use any monitor attached to your computer to output preview video. go to workspace > video clean feed and select your monitor 2: the decklink cards also does sdi/hdmi capture and not just output. also, the decklink cards are literally some of the cheapest capture & output cards you can buy. for example, the decklink sdi 4k is 295usd while the aja kona 1 which only supports 3g-sdi and only supports 2048x1080 max, costs 749usd it is also worth mentioning that up to this point, the resolve studio licenses are lifetime and can be installed on two computers

@Toastybees Жыл бұрын

That email was so completely craven. They have no legal leg to stand and are expecting people to be bound by terms and conditions they never agreed to. This is a slam dunk in court.

@sarowie Жыл бұрын

is it worth the trouble?

@Toastybees Жыл бұрын

@@sarowie This is easy class action territory, the individual claimants would do no work it would be all up to the lawyers.

@chickenandpizza2483 Жыл бұрын

@@sarowie Yeah all the original users effected will have to do is provide proof they bought a lifetime membership and usually if its a money settlement its split up between all who file and get an approved claim. I've been a user from the Equifax class action lawsuit and got $45 and the GTX 970 3.5GB and .5GB vram lawsuit I forgot the amount for that one and a few others and it usually takes years though for payout and they have deadlines to file a claim but it one gets started I would file a claim and it takes like 15 minutes. The end users essentially just file a quick claim then if they win which it seems like a slam dunk sadly its usually just a cash win I think but maybe it can force them to change it back I'm not sure. A team of attorneys and legal people will do the long stuff. I've done about 5 class actions that directly involved me from products I bought or things that effected me but its usually 1-2 years after the deadline to file if one gets started but if you ever have the time and it effects you its quick and I'd do it. Better than nothing.

@lorekeeper685 Жыл бұрын

@@sarowie suing a scummy company probably is.

@VooDooTube... 5 ай бұрын

I left Filmora today because of this. I thought I had a lifetime subscription and only had to pay once, I find out today they took money out of my bank and it is annual subscription. Im gone. I have subbed to your channel and look forward to more of your content thank you.

@milesanderson677 Жыл бұрын

Shocking, and quite rightly goodbye Filmora. I learnt so much from you on Filmora and you certainly helped me develop my videos to use on my other YT channel, thank you. Looking forward to seeing which video editor you'll use next. I may follow suit.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I’ve been using DaVinci ReSolve

@hughesy606 Жыл бұрын

I love the fact that they credit your progression and success to their product. You were the effective Kickstarter for the company. It’s like saying to an original shareholder that their shares are now worthless as the company has grown! Wondershare will live to regret getting in the world of internet scams

@MatheusPratta Жыл бұрын

I never put much trust on Wondershare before because their products and marketing always felt very sketchy to me, specially when it came to creating "articles" in their website teaching how to do something very specific (like converting something from A to B) and "conveniently" their product was "the best option" for that. I know, many other brands also do this kind of stuff, but I just don't trust it. Not honoring something they sold as "lifetime" for a large sum of money in the past is yet another reason I want to be as far as possible from that scam company!

@JohnDlugosz Жыл бұрын

@@MatheusPratta AhHa! That might be why the Algorithm showed me this video. But it's also disturbing... I saw one of those articles, as I wanted to quickly convert a bunch of FLAC files to mp3 for Christmas dinner at a relative's place. And FFmpeg doesn't have LAME built in, and I want to convert several directories. I downloaded the "recommended" software only to get pop-up ads as part of the install, and the browser open to more stuff. And I find out it costs to use -- AFTER I had installed it. So, I may have picked up browser cookies for Wondershare, including trackers that cut across websites and basically know your history (when there are ads served, and for sites that advertise). So, Google knows I bumped into them. And shortly after, the Algorithm decides this would be interesting to me.

@grizcuz Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDlugosz For future reference, if you're trying to convert audio files from one format to another, like FLAC to MP3 or any other audio format. You can use Foobar 2000 (plus the free encoder pack) all for free with no fees, watermarks or any other restrictions, ever.

@hughesy606 Жыл бұрын

@@grizcuz almost for a lifetime! 😉

@snikrdoodls14 Жыл бұрын

The fact that they had the audacity to ask for another collaboration for your silence is down right hilarious! The idea that they think they can get away with this when it is legally dubious, is either fuelled by a massive ego, or stupidity. Even the average guy can tell this is something that is legally dubious.

@acmenipponair Жыл бұрын

It's typical greediness by some people in suits. They don't care. If Wondershare goes under the bus they take their money and go to the next company to destroy.

@WaterZer0 Жыл бұрын

Sadly laws don't apply to shareholders.

@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073 Жыл бұрын

Right there in the beginning he said that he doesn't talk bad about the sponsors, so basically means he doesn't tell all the truth about them. It's all about $ for both of them. They worth each other.

@max_aucube Жыл бұрын

@@rightsdontcomewithpermits7073 he is actually destroying Filmora lmao

@sysbofh Жыл бұрын

Even if it's legal, it's at the very least immoral.

@bze06fishinbwai63 4 ай бұрын

I was one of those that got filmora because of you! I've followed you for many yrs now and learned enough from your videos. I can't believe its been a yr you posted this video and I missed it! But I made the same choice not to pay for something I had and was taken away!!! Please keep doing greats video, and I know you will do Great with any video editing software you get your hands on! Thanks for everything!

@Daniel_Batal 4 ай бұрын

Hey thanks! I appreciate that. I've been really happy using DaVinci Resolve and teaching other people how to do the same.

@ester_b 10 ай бұрын

Hey daniel!! First, I would like to thank you very much for the video!! Do you have any type of" ranking / tier list of best video editors" ? If that's not the case, i think it would be a great video!! Sorry for my broken English, im Brazilian

@Daniel_Batal 10 ай бұрын

I actually don't only because I think the best editor is the one that feels right for you. That's one of those things that only the individual can determine. I just try to show people how the ones I use work and let them decide for themselves.

@TheFlyingChungus Жыл бұрын

I was one of the lifetime license purchasers during Filmora 9 and kept using the software and getting free updates up till Filmora 11. Was surprised and bamboozled when I booted up Filmora 11 last week and a pop-up saying that I need to pay to upgrade to Filmora 12. Your video here kept my sanity as it shows that I am not the only one who felt tricked by this predatory marketing tactic. Thanks Daniel, I've watched your tutorial videos back in the day when I just bought Filmora 9. Glad you're standing up to them now.

@superslash7254 Жыл бұрын

it's not predatory, it's criminal.

@DocIlpalazzo Жыл бұрын

Read the fine print I.e the ToS. Stop complaining.

@superslash7254 Жыл бұрын

@@DocIlpalazzo Stop breaking the law and thinking a shrinkwrap TOS with no meeting of the minds and no consideration is in any way legally binding.

@Tortilla.Reform Жыл бұрын

@@superslash7254 It’s both, not mutually exclusive. Predatory *and* criminal

@Tortilla.Reform Жыл бұрын

@@DocIlpalazzo Why are you blindly defending a corporation that takes advantage of its customers?

@thejoejacksoninterviews4207 Жыл бұрын

I was going to buy Filmora, but this reality check made me decide not to. Good man. I praise your honesty and anger

@billyholic Жыл бұрын

Its good easy software in general its a good company but this lifetime cancel was uncalled for

@DexMediaja Жыл бұрын

If I buy it now I would have to pay for it very month ??

@FRAMEDSKATEKREW69 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of getting back into video editing for life moments I record for my family. I wanted to try Final cut pro x, but that is expensive. Glad I ran into your channel! I can watch some of your videos and make a better decision on what software would be best for me.

@walkaboutwisdom Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I am in the process of creating a KZfaq Channel to take people on rides with me around the beautiful Australian countryside, and am in need of a video editing software program. I was about to purchase Filmora 12 when I saw this video and you opened my eyes. That's a really shitty thing to do and I don't care whether they want to use the word update or upgrade! It's a shame that 'lifetime' doesn't last even 5 years, and now that you've bought to my attention, I would love to hear more about what other programs you think are great! Cheers, mate.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I’m currently using DaVinci Resolve

@kateallen7675 Жыл бұрын

I can relate, I bought "AnyDVD" burning DVD's with a "lifetime update" they claim they were sued out of business, but "sold" their product to "some one else" that were not bound to the lifetime contract.

@runed0s86 Жыл бұрын

Never use paid software when free alternatives (often built into the operating system already) Imgburn has been around back since at least XP. Dvdstyler lets you make professional video DVDs, and even has that GNU license! GNU stuff is always better than paid products, because anyone can make improvements or forks. Filmora is not a GNU company.

@hautehussey Жыл бұрын

A company that buys them should be required to honor the original license terms. Unfortunately it’s just not ever going to be worth taking them to court over it.

@acmenipponair Жыл бұрын

@@hautehussey A company that buys another company IS required to honor the original terms. If they want users to change contract, they a. would have to offer them a new deal b. give them compensation when they don't close the deal. because when you buy a company, you buy it with all it's legal obligations. Imagine buying a company and then telling the IRS: "I don't have to pay the tax debt that company had with you, I'm a new owner". You know what the IRS will say? "Well, yes, you are the new owner - of the debt too."

@BuffdaddyJamal Жыл бұрын

Just pirate everything. That's the solution. The only one that works.

@threemar3 Жыл бұрын

Why would you ever spend money on something that is free?

@skillaxxx Жыл бұрын

At 07:40 when Wondershare was first mentioned, it all started making sense. And if the eula conditions mentioned were introduced *after* the purchase, that wont hold up in a court, opening the door for a class-action lawsuit ...

@dirtdobbervideo3909 Жыл бұрын

That is exactly what happened. They moved the goalposts after the game had started.

@hellterminator Жыл бұрын

Most EULAs have a clause saying they can update the EULA however they like and give you contract termination as your only recourse if you don't agree with the changes. They almost certainly had this, too, and sent out an email or had the users agree to the change as part of the update to version 9 or something.

@353Tensa353 Жыл бұрын

@@hellterminator however there is also the "reasonable interpretation" that any judge would slap them with as a lifetime license is reasonably interpreted as forever, and most terms of service contracts that hide clauses like that deep in them have been thrown out as a reasonable person isnt gona read through a 2000 page contract and understand in totality it all

@skillaxxx Жыл бұрын

@@hellterminator Yes, but - at least in Europe - that doesn't hold in court, as consumer protection laws protect against this. If terms change for the worse, the customer will have to get compensated for it. And they also have the right to terminate any contract without penalties instantly if they'd like. And even in the US 'lifetime' vs '2 years' (iirc) is probably deemed unreasonable, no matter the EULA.

@macq1 Жыл бұрын

This is an unfortunate but common trend. It is happening in all software not just editing, it includes productivity, gaming, engineering, etc. Software developers have realized that people expect them to update (upgrade) forever. While this is great for the consumer, the company has no new revenue to continue to pay the staff for ongoing dev work to maintain existing platforms AND make new more cutting edge products. If a company wants to offer lifetime software, they should charge a shocking amount of money so it's either cost prohibitive or enough to make it worth future development.

@joman66 Жыл бұрын

It's always the small print in the EULA's (End User Lisense Agreements) where big companies flex their power with things like this. Crazy!

@TotalRookie_LV Жыл бұрын

Yeap, likely there was something about "agreeing to future licence changes" or, if it wasn't, they "solved" it by changing wording form "updates" to "upgrades".

@johncaccioppo1142 Жыл бұрын

I have never seen you or your channel or watched any videos on video editing software that I can remember, but I got recommended this and watched it and I'm glad I did. I was frankly stunned at your professionalism, there were so many times you could have been nasty in describing this situation, yet you kept your cool and was generously polite to people who basically misrepresented themselves and ripped you and your viewers off. All I can say is, buddy, you are sincerely a class act.

@Mrs.T.Rusch25 Жыл бұрын

It caught my eye because I downloaded the free version just yesterday! After watching this I immediately uninstalled.

@MtgCoach Жыл бұрын

Me too, thanks

@IrisBread Жыл бұрын

@@Mrs.T.Rusch25 the free version sucks alooot specially because of watermark,get da vinci resolve

@vampy5071 Жыл бұрын

@@IrisBread I use shotcut

@ronaldulysseswizards1161 Жыл бұрын

I watched under the same conditions. I appreciate your comment and recognition. Good on you, man.

@geraldwoodall72 Жыл бұрын

This is for me, first hearing of Filmora - and you. It never, unfortunately, surprises me when companies believe they can buy silence. It is a pleasant surprise when they fail. The best thing Filmora could have done was to contact all Lifetime license holders months ago to let them know of their change in scheme - and make an offer to convert the license at a high discount. That would have defused this whole mess before it blew up in their face. Imagine nearly every creator recommending any other Software package to their viewers and subscribers. Filmora -- you reading this? - Craftsman isn't credited when folks use Craftsman tools to make a masterpiece - its the skill of the artist, not always the quality of the tool that makes the difference.

@nate750 Жыл бұрын

I was considering this just today. Thank you for uploading this. I will not be purchasing. Knowing they are out to “trick” the user. The ones who keep them in business. The stubbornness is shown to clearly in the 2 emails. If they will do this to one of their ambassadors, what will they do to a “regular user? Wow.

@BaldiSeedCompletionist Жыл бұрын

I also bought a lifetime license recently, I assumed everything would be included. For some reason it kept charging me so I cancelled any subscription I may have accidentally signed up for. Eventually I realized I lost access to paid effects, I didn't expect that.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they’ve put some of the effects behind another paywall which they kind of sneak in while signing up. I don’t like the sales tactics at all

@BaldiSeedCompletionist Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal Same here. I commend you for spreading awareness, it seems like our best shot for now.

@gregcurtis3441 Жыл бұрын

Same EXACT thing happened to us Pro Tools users, when Avid changed over from licenses to ‘plans’. Now I’m paying $90 a month per license to use PT, when I’d bought many lifetime licenses back in 2010 for my commercial recording studio. They slipped in changes to the TOS during the many updates over the years and cherry picked the language that suited them best moving forward. Completely throwing their long time professional users under the bus.

@chauvinemmons Жыл бұрын

I sincerely Wonder if their attorney provided this script for filmora based on their retainer or if they had to pay an extra litigation prevention fee on top of the standard retainer agreed on when they signed up with that attorney.

@ryo-kai8587 Жыл бұрын

*@Greg Curtis* This just reminds me of why I'm grateful to have REAPER. That kind of behavior is just so despicable; the more loyal a customer has been, the worse it feels.

@giddycadet Жыл бұрын

@@ryo-kai8587 I was just thinking how i would have absolutely no idea what i'd do if Reaper went subscription-only. It's one of the last bastions of perpetual-license pro software. I will have to pay for an upgrade starting with version 8 but that's not going to be for a fat while and they disclosed it beforehand, so I'm very happy.

@WiggyWamWam Жыл бұрын

Avid is a terrible company across the board

@caseysmith544 Жыл бұрын

Do they even have other options? I mean the same thing happened to Adobe 7--9 years go where people stopped using the product becuse the company Adobe would literally bork the program if you did not pay for every little update to the program and no there were no longer people buying year subscriptions or basic. Now Adobe is having some issues financially as nobody other then massive business buying the cooperate for more then 50 or 90 people are buying the subscriptions becuse the deal for big business is the issue, they even track so these companies have to be no more then 1 mile away from the main server the company is using. This means lots of people are not using Adobe or they got these odd versions of Adobe alike programs that are older on CD style but made modern for Windows__ that are floating around if you know where to look on the web where programmers cloned old XP CD versions of Adobie and updated them to work better under an odd name.

@billearle1 Жыл бұрын

Salute to you Daniel. I am also a "lifetime" owner and I had the same experience. When I called Wondershare support, I was advised that they would give me a "free" upgrade to Filmora 12. I explained that I had purchased a lifetime license that included free updates and upgrades going forward. That cemented me as a customer. To throw all of their lifetime customers under the bus was and is a REALLY poor business plan, as the original purchasers helped build their business and now are sticking it to those original customers. Throwing their original customers who helped the build the brand is the quickest and dumbest way to tick them off and badmouth them to any future customers as a warning as to how to expect to be treated going forward. I certainly feel as you do and wish perhaps a lawyer among us would make Wondershare aware of their responsibilities, as well to the threat of disloyalty of purchasing other products from them if they abandon their legal responsibilities.

@aaron___6014 Жыл бұрын

I'm sure it was all in their agreement nobody read.

@mjt1517 Жыл бұрын

@@aaron___6014 lifetime updates means lifetime updates.

@jasonb4370 Жыл бұрын

@@aaron___6014 it's not

@VanGoWanderlust Жыл бұрын

Even if it was clear, they made a mistake. A huge loyal customer base that doesn’t pay for anything going forward is useless. Eventually they would be relying on a small user base to fund development for the rest of you. They should have been smart and ended Filmora and called version 12 something different, like Filmora Pro, that would have been a smarter move from a customer relations perspective.

@stokerstchannel4828 Жыл бұрын

It’s been many years ago but I read an article on Eula people receive in a year. The article worked out to read and comprehend all the EULAs you receive in that year would take nearly a year and a half to read if you had a law education that reduced the time by already knowing some basics of the verbiage and related law. It predicted with the then new advent of mobile store fronts such as Apple App Store and android google play that the number could and very well would reach over two years time to read and digest in the 2020’s. Wish I could remember where I read that article it was some where in the neighborhood of 08 and I believe I remember reading it when trying to decide to leave black berry for iOS back then. I don’t know what the answer to the madness that is the current situation of lengthy terms of service/ EULAs is a litigious nightmare. Someone way smarter than I am will and must figure out a universal Eula/tos or legal system that grants certain rights to consumers that can not be usurped by intelligent law students.

@ygrittesnow1701 8 ай бұрын

I have Wondershare's Uniconverter. I bought the perpetual license for the version I have. They during the guise of an update disabled the functionality of the version I have to force me to upgrade and pay for that version. I called them on this and they gave me a link to a download and was told to reinstall the older version. This restored full functionality.

@Snowymae Жыл бұрын

I always understand companies changing their pricing structures but it infuriates me when companies do things like this. Unfortunately this sort of thing has become standard practice, I feel bad for all the lifetime license holders who have no choice but to either pay or find new software

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

The saga continues…

@jimreineri6166 Жыл бұрын

Clearly, this is a breach of their original terms. They are counting on the little guys not fighting back. They have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted. I applaud your stand. Sadly, integrity is in short supply in the world today, we should demand from the people with which we do business.

@TisHotMessHistory Жыл бұрын

Thank you for handling this with integrity, Daniel. I purchased a lifetime license and I haven't updated or upgraded. But I have a problem with a company making moves like this. It's nice to know that you can't be bought.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

All I've got is my word and the people who share in these conversations with me. That means more to me than money.

@CNSMITH_AUTHORIZED Жыл бұрын

I saw a message pop up for me saying if you upgrade to version 12, you may lose your lifetime license, so I haven't upgraded my software. I purchased Filmora because of Daniel's tutorials also. I'm so glad he's calling this out and chiming in about this! I'm totally disgusted with what filmora is doing. Why not charge FUTURE customers a monthly fee and STOP offering lifetime licenses? Why do this to the loyal customers that purchased this product? This is HORRIBLE customer service and business practices! I'm going to look into Davinci Resolve. Thanks for the tip Daniel!

@drunktrump5209 Жыл бұрын

" It's nice to know that you can't be bought." or maybe Wondershare didn't offer enough $$$$...

@Skyphic Жыл бұрын

@@drunktrump5209 Very cynical and sad outlook on life my friend. The richest man in the world has nothing without integrity.

@Onemanstrash1 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal a mans word is quite literally the only thing that can not be taken or stolen.

@GlamorousHabits Жыл бұрын

Wow! As a new creator, I was looking into Filmora for my editing needs. Thank you for this valuable info.

@songstoriesrewind 11 ай бұрын

thanks for the info. i was interested in getting the software but now I have some concerns.

@baddog668 Жыл бұрын

This sucks, there must have been a better way for them to back out of the lifetime membership. Gaslighting and ghosting users never ends up well. Thanks you pointing all this out.

@AD-hq2uz Жыл бұрын

Yes one of the other commenters said it. They needed to stop filmora and start new software line.

@allyperfectcosima5472 Жыл бұрын

Time for a class action lawsuit! My parents have a lifetime subscription to SiriusXM and it was wild when the company tried to renege on it and got absolutely rekt by a class action forcing them to honor it Edit: If filmora doesn't change their tune with the public shaming I would recommend you genuinely contact a lawyer. This sounds VERY similar to the XM case and they were legally forced to honor their lifetime subscriptions despite nitpicky terms and conditions due to the false advertising that had their customers reasonably assume they'd have access in perpetuity. So it's worth a shot. It would also probably work well to have you as a contact point due to you having an audience that includes many license holders Edit 2: jk lol, just noticed the update video, glad they caved to public pressure

@bl8388 Жыл бұрын

Sad thing is, I've seen this happen so many times I see a "lifetime," anything and I think, "maybe it is, and maybe they'll just disavow it."

@spinx2273 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the sentiment, but class action is nearly pointless. Multiple individuals coming against them with lawyers individually - or with a non-class action coalition - is probably a better tactic - one that will force them to pay out to the individuals they defrauded at equal to or above the amount they were defrauded of, rather than the silly gesture of $10.00 per individual that usually results from class action.

@MyWeedgrower Жыл бұрын

@@spinx2273 right make them pay per case. i don't care if they caved to public pressure they already broke their agreement. doesn't mean they'll not do it again in 3 or 4 yrs or watch these users usage and slowly cut them off one by one and just keep bigger voices like youtubers honored

@Hotecce1 Жыл бұрын

To be honest, those that purchased a lifetime licence got it for nearly peanuts. especially if you have been using it for years prior. So it would be a complete waste of your time and money with a lawsuit. Let nature take its course. In that process, Filmora will sooner or later lose all of its users, and possibly even its own software, or they will go back to honouring the lifetime licences. If it was me, i would just delete Filmora from my PC and find better software.

@pmally2006 Жыл бұрын

Software development is expensive 🤷‍♂️

@FunDadAdventures 11 ай бұрын

Well done bro. I’m glad you made this video. Thank you for standing for what’s right and informing your base

@Daniel_Batal 11 ай бұрын

Any time

@karolcpm- 10 ай бұрын

Been a user since Filmora Version 8 nearly five years ago and I have had mixed experiences with the program's reliability to sum it all up, and I'm learning why. It was shocking when Filmora required us lifetime users to pay to upgrade to Version 12! Thank you so much Daniel (and everyone else) for pushing for our rightful purchases and for pointing out their quiet changes with terms. Personally though, I'm done with Filmora and have been considering PowerDirector. I have had a much better experience with that program and other Cyberlink related products. I may not video edit often but when I do, it is critical for the software to be reliable, especially if I paid for it.

@altrogeruvah Жыл бұрын

Bitwig pulled the same stunt a few months ago. The community blew up upon realizing the breach of EULA and Bitwig ended up reversing their controversial decision. It's always good for you and everyone to talk about these things openly as we're steadily moving towards a dystopian SaaS world.

@travisminneapolis Жыл бұрын

Any big company will reverse its actions if enough of its consumers start clapping back

@AdamElteto Жыл бұрын

Yup, SaaS is essentially theft, shakedown and extortion. "Perpetual plan" is the same as NOT a lifetime license, haha!

@ajalbetjr Жыл бұрын

Most professional 'slap' at a company that sneakily changed the rules in the background that I have ever seen; you've also just saved people new to video editing/editing software options a lot of potential future headaches! Thanks and keep updating us on this story!

@marcus268 Жыл бұрын

Paypal changed its Eula, they can charge you 2500€ when you post some hate crime online. They are now the one stop online power.

@djjeckel65 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I am always looking for help and advice to grow my channel. I still have a lot to learn and I just found your channel so Thank you for speaking your mind.

@goldwingmoments 6 ай бұрын

My current Filmore subscription runs out in 4 days. I do not have the lifetime plan but watched your video for information before I renew. Guess it will be another video editing program for me. Thanks for posting.

@GOODLIFENOW Жыл бұрын

Been a Davinci Resolve user for 2 years now and still going strong, This video is amazing and very touching. Daniel Rejecting money and standing up for what is right is very inspiring and motivating me to do the same. Thank you for shining the light

@manmadeaids Жыл бұрын

I’m in my second year as Resolve user. It’s main selling point to me was it’s color grading software and the fact it was not a subscription service. I feel like I’ve gotten every penny out of what I’ve paid for in resolve and I’ve not even utilized it to it’s full potential.

@thecrowningentertainment2421 Жыл бұрын

Second year user of Davinci as well, but also used Filmora at my office job. I always hated using Filmora because I knew that while it was more beginner friendly, it was vastly inferior. My office job has lifetime subs to it as well. I always suggested to the higher ups that we switch to resolve and every video tech be trained on Davinci. No one listened to me. Now I’m getting the last laugh. I’m still trucking along with my solo projects, getting regular updates and it’s all free. I did end up buying a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema and it came with a free lifetime license to Davinci Studio, so I am now using the paid version. But I didn’t really pay for it directly. Great software, high learning curve, but every video compositing feature known to man available in this one software. I would suggest using the Casey Farris tutorials here on KZfaq if you’re new and trying to cut your teeth on video compositing with Resolve.

@pierrebondoerffer9468 Жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel, this really reminds me of the whole debacle Linus from LinusTechTips was facing with TeamViewer, where he had purchased a lifetime license and TeamViewer would try to "force his hand" to upgrade to a subscription.

@any1alive Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly, nonono 'filmora 12' is diferant, you bought a lifetime product of 'filmora',,,, totally 2 different things, give us money, even tho you bought flifetime of filmora 6, you gotta obide by filmora 8 terms, which you didnt aggree too but we choose that the licence means this now

@blueberry1c2 Жыл бұрын

It never resorted to the software totally blocking access to itself. It would be a very different situation if he just got spam calls from wondershare

@mrfrenzy. Жыл бұрын

It will soon be impossible to use older teamviewer licenses as they make them incompatible with Windows 11. Eventually they will block old licensed versions from the server.

@ixgames7956 Жыл бұрын

I haven't done much video editing in recent years (is one of my favourite hobbies and I'm eager to get back into it once I have the room for a proper setup) that being said it I was confused that I was recommended one of your videos as someone who hasn't watched them before. Very professional video I'd like to say, covered the situation fairly, accurately and I was captivated to tell you the truth. Awful situation to put it plainly, seems they've decided they want to fill their pockets and threw original customers and fans under the bus. I hope they make things right but sadly I doubt they will. I hope other software companies treat you, your community and the wider audience better than Filmora currently is.

@per-olamjomark7452 Жыл бұрын

I work with PR and know very well that just one PR mistake can seriously damage a company’s reputation. Even the most successful world brands can screw up so badly that their PR case will leave them with millions of dollars in damage. It goes without saying that bad PR is essentially doing the exact opposite of what PR is meant to be. This is an example I most likely will use in my line of profession, showcasing how to not act as a brand.

@rhianharvey1783 Жыл бұрын

A message to those at Filmora it is a despicable act to dupe your loyal customers in such a dishonourable way. Picking the pockets of those that helped your company grow and develop is not business but commercial suicide Daniel, I couldn’t have put it better on all levels thanks for sharing that info and continue the fabulous work 👍 Wondershare sold us a Lifetime LIE not License. I certainly don’t trust in the brand now. I think there is definitely a line of litigation for us all to consider here.

@robmcd Жыл бұрын

I’d call them “early investors” with seed capital. Filmora wouldn’t exist without these early adopters.

@fabienherry6690 Жыл бұрын

It's crazy because the number of people that bought life time licence shouldn't be that many and worst people that bought the life time plan and then would gladly pay more for version shouldn't be high and WORST still people that bought life time and now are discouraging people to interact with the software. Really feel slimy move to count on people laziness to get a few more buck

@senacht Жыл бұрын

A good attorney could hang them out to dry in court for the bait and switch they’re attempting to pull. However, Filmora will most likely end up doing what other companies who have decided to get out from under lifetime licenses have done. Which is to “discontinue” their product and then turn around and rebrand it under a different name and claim it’s an entirely different product. In some cases they might even decide to shut down the original corporation to avoid future litigation and reincorporate under a new name. All perfectly legal. Many software companies have done the same in the past.

@dathyr1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this information and video. I am a recent Filmora user and did the 39 dollar plan which I just do just basic video editing. Whether I stay with Filmora in the future is unknown at this time. But it is sad what they have done to their dedicated customers on Lifetime licenses. I will keep following your channel and see what video editing software you use and like. Thank you and take care.

@mg2959 10 ай бұрын

Lifetime License holder here since 2019. I have just purchased a new computer and that made me download the latest software - Filmora 12. I previously didnt upgrade/update, so hadnt come across this issue before. This has made me so angry!! There is no way I am starting to pay this company a monthly subscription, having forked out £60.00 back in the day for a 'LIFETIME LICENSE' I will look at DaVinci or even pay for Vegas Pro. Well done Wondershare, youve just done what we would call a 'Bud Light'

@Daniel_Batal 10 ай бұрын

You might want to watch through this series to the conclusion for full information

@karolcpm- 10 ай бұрын

Same here, except that Filmora gave me so many issues until I upgraded (not updated) to another computer. A recent update (not upgrade) has now made the whole program unusable on this new device!

@mg2959 10 ай бұрын

@karolcpm- Hold on . . . . Install Filmora 12, re start your computer, open the software, and then log in . . . . Give it a while (not sure how long, but mine took 24 hrs) and it will recognise you have a lifetime licence, as long as you purchased Filmora 8 or 9. They changed their mind and honoured the lifetime licences. See one of this guys later videos from about 4/5 months ago 👍

@AndeLyons Жыл бұрын

I saw this message pop up yesterday when I hopped on Filmora... and wondered how it was going to affect the Lifetime offer. As a 4x Founder I have a deep appreciation for a company staying focused on growing and being profitable and sustainable. However, it's important a company stays in integrity with its users and provide advanced warning and several communications before making a change to terms and conditions. Thank you for being in integrity and sharing this info in this valuable video.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry that I'm the one who has to share this message. I'm hoping that Filmora has a change of heart about its lifetime license holders.

@nerdjournal Жыл бұрын

@Karl with a K It depends on semantics and interpretation of words plays into contract law. If they are going to distinguish between update and upgrade they are going to have to walk a razor-thin line. The courts would have to decide if this is a violation. However, on my wondershare filmora homepage, the ad says update which I thought they said we were covered in. Regardless it's spineless and I'd be willing to join in a class-action lawsuit if needed. I don't use filmora often, but this is about the principle.

@dasignlady Жыл бұрын

@@nerdjournal totally agree. It's about principle. Something rapidly disappearing today.

@melvinstevens2518 Жыл бұрын

@Karl with a K Exactly. And all necessary evidence is there. Again with Daniel being a PAID ambassador for Wondershare/Filmora, his videos clearly spoke to Wondershare's intention of the lifetime licenses! @Daniel Batal, I am not saying you did anything wrong, but, and I am not lawyer, ...in the eyes of the law, you were clearly representing the company and their product. Further, it can be argued that the company was well aware of your comments on the lifetime licenses and they, in no way at the time contradicted your statement(s) so it was clearly their posistion.

@buyaolian666 Жыл бұрын

It s about time to take some legal actions ! Give them some headaches."Lifetime licenses covers until the service exist".There is a clear deceit on their part. Good luck on Filmora Legal team.!!!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there are a lot of dissatisfied customers right now.

@matthewporter1107 Жыл бұрын

That would be great if they were not based out of China.

@HikingMyFeelings Жыл бұрын

They have an office in British Columbia. I filed a complaint with the Canadian equivalent of the BBB.

@mohitfotography6093 Жыл бұрын

it's looking like backstab for loyal user

@MissyMiniac Жыл бұрын

@@matthewporter1107 I thought it was Singapore?

@thedude7319 Жыл бұрын

Within 10 yrs there will be a lot of companies go down because although sub-model brings in a lot of cash the drawback is the laziness and the laisez-faire attitude towards customers will haunt them. I am curious if there will will a cyclicol industry where every 30 years we will switch from sub to paid model

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I think it will always come down to value, service and transparency. But hats what I honestly believe customers care most about

@juanloboeditor Жыл бұрын

Amazing video, incredible person, and an incredible teacher. I started in the world of video editing towards the end of last year. I bought the latest iPhone to create my own videos, and I am absolutely loving Davinci Resolve Studio, which I paid for a lifetime license. I have faith that they are not of bad faith like Filmora has been. I would be very disappointed if I were in your place. I am grateful for all your videos and how they have been helping me in this new journey I've embarked on. Previously, I was a police officer here in Brazil, but I abandoned that career for the passion of video creation. Thank you again!

@MangoMotors Жыл бұрын

This has been something many companies have been pulling, revoking their lifetime licenses. It's a shame that them breaking their promises is going to inevitably lead to a lawsuit or law change and make almost no companies every sell lifetime licenses anymore.

@jsmilz86 Жыл бұрын

Didn't Adobe do the same thing

@Tijuanabill Жыл бұрын

In many cases, the alternative to breaking their word is to go out of business.

@wanderinwolf3804 Жыл бұрын

@@Tijuanabill well if they can't keep their word, maybe they shouldn't be in business to begin with?

@Tijuanabill Жыл бұрын

@@wanderinwolf3804 Is keeping their word more important than staying in business? Do their employees agree with you? It sounds me like they screwed up and offered something that wasn't sustainable. Would the OP be happier, if they just went under? I suspect he would not.

@wanderinwolf3804 Жыл бұрын

@@Tijuanabill in this instance, yes. They deserve to go under. Yes it sucks for their employees, life sucks, get over it. But this company deserves to go out of business at this rate. So to answer your question, is a business keeping it's word more important than it staying in business? Yes, 1000x yes. And the answer will always be yes. If the answer is ever no, then you are giving the companies way too much power to basically do whatever/whenever they want.

@goldstraw360 Жыл бұрын

I'm a long time DaVinci user, so not affected by this issue personally. However, I'd like to applaud your unwaveringly honest, moral AND respectful approach to this company's decisions. It would have been so easy to just post a baleful rant, given the move they pulled, but you kept it classy. Full marks, and you have a new subscriber.

@goldstraw360 Жыл бұрын

@@thawne7993 Yes, though I’m not sure about the relevance of the question?

@BarefootVlogger Жыл бұрын

Old school guy here who got used to Filmora because of it's ease of use. Would love to use Davinci but it looks way too complicated in comparison. Wonder if I can figure it out.

@dddaaa6965 Жыл бұрын

@@goldstraw360 i don’t have a job and I use resolve

@thinkingnawanrinchen 9 ай бұрын

Yeah ! I Thought I will get updates when I bought the filmora license. But turns out it's not available, for the least they could do was give us water mark free export of files. It was a really frustrating experience for real. Thank You for sharing your video I thought I was the only one facing such an issue.

@roar666 Жыл бұрын

Got it in one Daniel. In Australia, it's called misleading and deceptive conduct. On top of that, their response to my query (at least) is patronising: "We're sorry you misunderstood the terms when you signed up for your perpetual/lifetime licence". What they SHOULD do is honour the lifetime licence for people who bought it under that agreement, and perpetual for anyone who signed up from Filmora X. That said, they upgraded my 10 to 11 for free, and from 9 to 10 for free.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@roar666 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal LOL, it's clear what they are trying to do. Wondershare just tried to bribe me again, and simply used the same cut and paste reply as the previous one.

@robmcd Жыл бұрын

@@roar666 I usually tell scummy companies like this that you’ll be taking the matter to NCAT or VCAT, QCAT etc and ask them who their onshore representative will be to serve documents to. They’ll need to refund your initial purchase price.

@pereklund7112 Жыл бұрын

As newbie I was looking at getting Filmora but with this code of conduct by the Filmora team towards their users this is absolutely not an option anymore. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

@PinkManGuy Жыл бұрын

Use resolve for free/donations and spend the extra money on something nice. You deserve it. Stay safe out there my friend.

@vojtablbosti747 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I just found the software and wanted to buy it. I wouldn't even mind if I could buy a licence for the current version that I could keep for several years. 60usd yearly is just too much to pay if i use it only occasionally.

@dmccaffe Жыл бұрын

Ditto!

@XXCaptainXFalconXX Жыл бұрын

Shotcut is open source and free

@techdiyer5290 Жыл бұрын

@@vojtablbosti747Please, don't use Filmora. Use something else. They brought this upon themselves.

@merc8822 6 ай бұрын

I was almost ready to buy Filmora, but thank you for alerting me to their unscrupulous business tactics in time to save me from this purchase!

@Locutius11 Жыл бұрын

Right on man. New subscriber. Never used video editing software and may never do. However the professional, entertaining and quality of your message delivery impressed me immensely. I feel that if I venture into this technology I have a goto place to learn what I honestly need to know. Will be checking out more of your videos. Sometimes KZfaq algorithms have a bloody good suggestion.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

@YourDriver Жыл бұрын

I am also a lifetime license holder and I'm glad you made this video. It basically says everything that I wanted to say. I paid for the new upgrade but honestly every update just gets worse and is full of bugs. I'll be switching to something else because I cannot support a shady company like Wondershare.

@themosh54 Жыл бұрын

Give Camtasia a look

@gillesmatheronpro Жыл бұрын

So many bugs, it feels like I'm standing in a cornfield ! About a month ago, I deceided to give a try at DaVinci Resolve, even though I knew about it being a "gas factory" for such beginners as I am in editing. Well... things are going slowly, but they go their way and I'm feeling better and better when using it for my montages. The great thing is the level of precision they managed to achieve in every tool offered, and the (almost endless) possibily to go deep into adjustements. This software is pure madness for anyone who's obsessed with quality... a little dangerous too, for you may find yourself chasing perfection. The free version allows for HD only exported videos, but their quality is sooooo sharp they easily keep up with Filmora UHD exports. What is amazing : when F. got my computer to clog, lag, shut down (you name it, I had it all !)... DaVinci lets my machine work in a flow without any trouble. In a whole month, I only had one software crash when trying to otherwise playback UHD videos while it was creating proxys... I easily can forgive that, for it can be blamed on me for asking a bit too much to the processors. My mind is set : F. no more !

@YourDriver Жыл бұрын

@@gillesmatheronpro heading over to DaVinci

@NelsonStJames Жыл бұрын

This was the exact reason I stopped dealing with Adobe who used to be one of the leading software developers that was pro independent creator in the early days. They weren’t as dastardly as filmora, but the subscription model is not beneficial to indies who aren’t yet making a living from their work, nor the hobbyist. Some people simply want to own their tools outright and then not have to worry about choosing between work and the light bill down the road should things get tight.

@2ndgenentertainment Жыл бұрын

That part brother. That’s why I’m glad my tuition paid for the adobe suite. But I’m making the switch to Davinci.

@gobblegobble831 Жыл бұрын

@Tetrazole if it's such a negligible amount of money why don't you Venmo op 10 bucks right now? Surely somebody as financially stable as yourself could afford it

@EpicureMammon Жыл бұрын

I "had" to upgrade from CS5 to CS6 to get a version of photoshop that would work with the raw files from my D750. I'm glad that I did and that I tracked down Lightroom CS6. I sometimes make money from shooting, but mostly do it for the fun of it, and I'm definitely not going to pay for a subscription to software. Fortunately, Lightroom can convert my D850's NEF files to DNGs that I can then open in Photoshop, but it's kind of convoluted. I'm just going ride out CS6 until it hits a point of uselessness with whatever camera I get next, then no more Adobe products for me.

@jadedandbitter Жыл бұрын

@@EpicureMammon I still use CS6, on a purchased key that probably wasn't legit, but oh well. Will never upgrade until this PC dies and then? Affinity Photo.

@scintillam_dei Жыл бұрын

FIlmora? More like FILMWHORA! 'Cause for money they sold their souls.

@blackflagnation Жыл бұрын

This kind of bs has been going on for years. It should be illegal for companies to change the terms of service that breach agreements made with customers.. A contract is a contract. We as users are held accountable to abide by the rules we signed our names to - companies should be as well. There needs to be penalties against companies that breach contracts with customers.

@shinnii3073 Жыл бұрын

The same thing happened tome. I bought the license Years ago. (about 5-6years ago) and when I wanted to use a new versioh I couldnt use it anymore. It really sucks.

@desaberry3472 Жыл бұрын

I heard somewhere 80% of a business income comes from repeat customers. That is not a way to keep long time users happy. Thank you for doing the right thing and telling us about it. You have shown great integrity and you seem like an awesome dude. Keep up the good work.

@y0u1 Жыл бұрын

except that those life time purchasers do not contribute anything after the first purchase.

@SuperNuclearUnicorn Жыл бұрын

@@y0u1 you can't ignore the power of word of mouth though. Through positive word of mouth Filmora got a bunch of business from this channel, now through negative word of mouth I imagine they'll lose potential customers

@bleepbloopblahp Жыл бұрын

@@y0u1 They do though. Just having a large user base is a great selling point for software. Many people feel comfortable using what everyone else is. Happy users talk and make videos that promote the software to new buyers. Conversely they don't take much away. Maybe some support hours but as a software user base grows users often help each other more than getting support from the company behind the software. Plus as they stopped the lifetime licensing a few versions ago there is a limited number of those licenses in use that will only ever drop in number. I think they really should just continue to give the software out to those that paid for lifetime licenses. It's not going to ruin them to give out digital products they have an endless supply of to a small portion of the people that want them and had already paid for them. These lifetime license users are the ones that paid the big bucks at a time the company used the money to grow into what it is today. Filmora depended on them and has now abandoned them. If they don't like it they can just rebrand and not have an issue. They want the brand that these users paid to make bigger though.

@qwertykeyboard5901 Жыл бұрын

I mean, those usb to sata/ide converters on wish i'll probably buy more.

@DsgSleazy Жыл бұрын

@@bleepbloopblahp Fax, when I go on Amazon for stuff the first thing I'm looking for is the product with thousands of positive reviews.

@WRXJIM Жыл бұрын

I love that the algorithm put this in my feed. These guys are dirty... they know it too. I never wish for someone and their business to not succeed when they have a good product, but when their business "practices" go bad, they no longer deserve the business or the success. Kudos Daniel for letting us all know who to avoid. A+++ on your professional delivery of this message too.

@demonpride1975 Жыл бұрын

i agree with you 100%, my brother and i went through a similar issue quite a few years back, it wasn't with a video editing software. but with a video game assistant called zygor, they made a program that helped consolidate a lot of information in world of warcraft. my brother and i both paid for the lifetime files. well low and behold they changed versions, and stated they would no longer be doing a life time license, and that anyone who had bought one, had to switch over to a subscription, well the sub was only 10 dollars a month, but there was push back like a whole lot, because people were stating the game was already 15 dollars a month to pay, and they wanted 10 dollars a month for a service. eventually they had to cave. but my brother and i, we just stopped with the game told told the company that was not going to happen, and we told all our friends.

@LukeIoveless 5 ай бұрын

Hey, I know this was a year ago but I bought the lifetime license about two years ago when it was still available. It has only now tried to get me to pay 30 or so dollars to even use the software without a watermark and to use effects. We've spent well over a hundred dollars on filmora and wondering if you know anything we can do to either use filmora or get our money back.

@Daniel_Batal 5 ай бұрын

They decided to honor lifetime licenses issued before the release of FilmoraX.

@LukeIoveless 5 ай бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal Thanks!