FIlmora Buckles Under Public Pressure! (but issues a threat)

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FIlmora Buckles Under Public Pressure (but issues a threat)
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@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

🔴 Real LAWYER Reacts to Filmora Saga ▶ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7yapbCD1K-1oJc.html

@mynameisgladiator1933 Жыл бұрын

Somehow I think that threat of legal action they just made against you, perhaps, and the other major voices is going to end Filmora. They made it right and the took away every last bit of good will those actions engendered. I'm looking for a good cheap video editing solution but am I going to choose Filmora now? The magic 8 ball thinks not. Related to this, I have a lifetime license to my trading software that I've had for about 7 years. I never thought about that until now. I'm going to go out and read the fine print in that agreement and make sure I have a solid situation with my business critical software. Thanks for handling this in such a professional away. I'm not sure I would have been so calm in my comments.

@brutalhonesty07 Жыл бұрын

Just want to say I found your channel due to all this drama. I’m a da Vinci resolve guy. But I look forward to looking at the past to compare contrast why you chose filmora in earlier versions.

@Flofutz Жыл бұрын

I wonder if my lifetime License bought just before they called it filmora now also would apply.... I bought it from them (iSkysoft) in end of 2016 just as a lifetime license. After getting like one or two minor updates their " video editor" chaged it's name in 2017 and they wanted to charge me for an Filmora license...... since then i am a bit unhappy and didn't enter the Filmora bandwagon. So this is just to say they did, or at least tried it a second time.!!!! But this time due to their customer base beeing wider and mainly your efforts they didn't win! Sorry for my english..... *edit* I might got the year mixed... maybe it was 2015-2016

@luckabuse Жыл бұрын

The result - massive PR to Filmora :-) Funny

@Tetsaga Жыл бұрын

Daniel, you are so professional, calm, and collected. I'm going to subscribe just because of your demeanor & how you handled this. Hopefully I can learn some things too!

@phantomsmithy Жыл бұрын

“We are determined to make things right.” - Our legal team smelled a class action lawsuit brewing and advised us we were being stupid.

@phadrus Жыл бұрын

Yep

@GaryBox Жыл бұрын

Yes, damage done though. Many who switched to DaVinci won't move back and lots of others probably won't touch anything from this company again.

@SarcasticPlotRecaps Жыл бұрын

They say that but then threaten us at the end of the same paragraph. So which is it? These people are nuts.

@runed0s86 Жыл бұрын

@@GaryBox I tried DaVinci and Filmora. Why would anyone use Filmora?! DaVinci is sooo much easier to use, and it makes more professional looking videos.

@dand5829 Жыл бұрын

@@SarcasticPlotRecaps they’re not nuts. They just have a different culture. They are doing the same thing they would do in China (Wondershare is Chinese) but it lands differently to a US audience.

@JasonTeale Жыл бұрын

Wow this has been one of the craziest youtube rabbit holes that I have fallen down in a long time. I must thank you Daniel for bringing this to our attention and for championing this issue. Well done!

@earlysda Жыл бұрын

Should stay away from Chinese products as much as possible.

@halko1 Жыл бұрын

Well said. He did awesome job covering this topic. I didn’t know this channel before, but watching just these Filmora licensing issue videos showed me who he is. Straight-backed professional with values. Subbed & going to be watching the future videos too. So glad that I found this channel.

@Yotes_ Жыл бұрын

Lol for real. I just found this channel yesterday....

@kelb2594 Жыл бұрын

Very true, a rabbit hole indeed because I just upgraded and I was wondering why I was paying. And it was funny as soon as I did, Daniel’s video a day or two later comes up. And I’ve been following this rabbit hole ever since👍🏾

@Frzned9x Жыл бұрын

Please check Louis Rossman to know that this is not the first time filmora is scamming people

@Hexagonaldonut Жыл бұрын

The part I find the most hilarious about this entire situation is that Wondershare really thought they could get away with screwing over lifetime license holders without severe consequences, after what happened literally only a few months ago with Clip Studio Paint. It's almost like a lot of people on the internet have seen this song and dance before, have gotten really good at spotting it, and are *extremely sick of it.*

@catalystgreenhorn9184 Жыл бұрын

The reason they felt like they could get away with such a thing is because other companies have got away with something similar. For me personally, it was Z-brush and Clip Studio.

@brianhall4182 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Clip Studio ticked me off doing the same stupid sort of thing. Bought it years ago because it was a one time purchase of a good product with updates that didn't require a monthly subscription like Photoshop. Then they go and change their policy.

@prorace_type_r Жыл бұрын

To be honest this was something that could be seen coming. I would also make a move if my lifetime purchase of a software is suddenly changed in terms. This is incredibly non-clever for a company to do. They have changed their plans, meaning they don't have to deal with more lifetime cases, which understandably are a burden. But it was a burden they knew from the beginning, they used that money from the lifetime licenses to get going and now these lifetime license holders obviously do not contribute (economically, because if someone is making content and talking about Filmora is helping spreading it), but probably they don't make a big bunch of their user base, and they will never grow larger, so come on.

@BB-mt5sb Жыл бұрын

Topaz got away with it.

@vwestlife Жыл бұрын

*Be careful:* I opened an old trial copy of Filmora 10 today and to my surprise it offered me a "FREE UPGRADE" to Filmora 12. But once it downloaded and installed the upgrade, it wouldn't let me export anything unless I paid for a license! Older versions would at least let you export a video with a watermark on it so you could evaluate it. Now in Filmora 12 you can't export anything without a license.

@everythingpony Жыл бұрын

I can?

@doctor_uno Жыл бұрын

Keep a good video quality and record your screen when you're done editing. You can make the video screen bigger.

@w0udo6yv4o4 Жыл бұрын

@@doctor_uno Or move to another software that doesn't suck

@doctor_uno Жыл бұрын

@@w0udo6yv4o4 yep. Capcut for example?

@toxic_gunz5037 Жыл бұрын

I never updated to version 12 😂 a few times a day it does pop up and I can't close it unless I close the program than it doesn't pop up anymore.

@deriuscampbell5368 Жыл бұрын

Guys, let's not forget Daniel. He placed a target on his back to fight for us, and we rallied behind him and won. Now, it's our time to fight for him. They want to make him an example to other influencers of what happens when you fight back. If Filmora gets their way, this will set the tone for other companies who wish to "trick" their customers and other influencers will look at this case and decide not to use their platform to fight back. Continue to apply pressure and see this through so that all is right for everyone, not just ourselves.

@phealingood Жыл бұрын

He also mentioned the value of free speech. So he just unlocked 2 achievements. “Steel, pure steel”

@Fire-Manz Жыл бұрын

I don't think any reasonable court would allow this as it will set a example on what companies can do. Even then, that would be a reputation suicide because everyone will be talking about it and think "Oh, this company sues people when get called out on something scummy they did." Unlike adobe, they don't have that strong robust software to cover them ... I never heard of them before till recently.

@57thorns Жыл бұрын

At least I now know a company I would not purchase anything from. The problem is to remember this if I ever is looking for a software like this.

@deriuscampbell5368 Жыл бұрын

@57thorns I bought the entire Wondershare eDraw suite last year with their Lifetime license. I forgot to check on those

@Zeromaus Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that he demanded his license carry over to a product he didn't pay for lol

@cellphone7223 Жыл бұрын

Not only LTT but Louis Rossman from Rossman's Repair Group, spoke out about Filomora. Louis is a huge right to repair advocate and has been battling for the right to repair for awhile now.

@MasicoreLord Жыл бұрын

Even worse, it's not about Filmora, it's about Wondershare as a whole, and he used that so called repair tool as an example, and others in the comments pointed out bs about their other products and how they game common search terms. Wondershare essentially operates like a scam.

@magnumjovem Жыл бұрын

Can you share the link?

@Lucrativecris Жыл бұрын

@@MasicoreLord dr fone doesn’t even work useless app wondershare should be ashamed to release an app that doesn’t do its job

@marvinwhisman3333 Жыл бұрын

I am not a Filmora user, but I appreciate your approach to this problem. Hoping you the best in your efforts to make things right.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@JandyElijahYT Жыл бұрын

Me not anymore just capcut pc user

@pnwprospecting Жыл бұрын

I am a lifetime license owner I would personally like to thank you for what you have done for the community! I did not know about your channel until this happened, but you gained a new subscriber!

@MostlyDrones 11 ай бұрын

How has your updates worked?

@Datchristianwoman 2 ай бұрын

I had lifetime licenced since filmora 9 but was askedbto upgrade today 12 or 13 i think. I went ahead to edit my video after ugrade, time to export i see watermark and I'm being asked to purchase again. I'm so sad.

@newpianotutorials Жыл бұрын

I find it really inspiring how you stood up for what you believed in and stuck to your principles - incredible how they tried to intimidate you throughout the whole sorry story. It must have been difficult to make a video critical of a company that you worked so closely with in the past. Amazing.

@soflomojo Жыл бұрын

…and handled it with such class and positivity despite being bullied. Seems like this is the kind of person you would want making videos about your company…

@animejanai4657 Жыл бұрын

This tale shows how important censorship can be. If the story was blocked everywhere along with warnings issued to each story uploader, then publicity may have been small.

@Pterodactyl-kn3ve Жыл бұрын

Too bad Filmic Pro can’t figure it out.

@ricardoniebla Жыл бұрын

So do I.

@MGTV1 Жыл бұрын

@@animejanai4657 they still would have lost 90% of their business. most of us were done with filmora once they pulled that.

@jameyiscool8040 Жыл бұрын

As someone who has never heard of Daniel before of this series of events or associated with filmora in any way, where I found the first part in my recommend, I must say a few off the top things 1. Throughout this whole situation Daniel seemed to show the most respect for filmora and anyone involved which we need more people like that in the world 2. He addressed the issue in full in a calm and respectful way not pointing fingers, not lashing out of filmora etc 3. Filmora seems like they in the situation were trying to play with the wording of stuff to cut lifetime licenses out of the equation to make more money which isn't the worst business if you don't care about the communities trust and respect which clearly they do In the end everyone played their hand while filmora were trying to justify using a second deck of cards to cheat with and eventually gave in

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I am a huge fan of tempered, thoughtful and respectful discourse. It can move mountains.

@NeverTakeNoShortcuts Жыл бұрын

What a dumb company Filmora is. How ham handed a response to a something so easily avoided.

@user-xo9um6ri5y Жыл бұрын

Video-editing Tom Araya shares these positive traits with the actual Tom Araya.

@kencramer1697 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal I think we have found a new core subject to be taught at school. Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, History and (Tempered, thoughtful and respectful discourse) . I think the country, if not the world would be a better place if we all learned the skills to hold and defend our positions. Lay out reasonable and rational reasons for those positions and be able to listen, analyze and understand someone else's position. And finally be able to walk away from the conversation at the end even if agreement has not been reached without resorting to childish and emotional attacks against the parties we disagree with.

@michaeldraper9804 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal I applaud you sir, knowing you were in the right the whole time can be frustrating to say the least . You didn't take the bribes and accepted the pot shots in stride, you are a man of character and my hero this year thank you

@JonDenver Жыл бұрын

Personally, after watching all that went down, I can say I will NEVER consider using a company that operates this way. You , Daniel have handled this with the utmost respect and professionalism. I am extremely impressed! You could have gone scorched Earth, but chose the high road. A great example man! I wish I could use DaVinci, but computer will not handle it, won't even open. I currently use VSDC pro version. They have a great channel with tutorials and a fairly easy learning curve. Starting up my 2 new channels this year. I look forward to all you fantastic upcoming videos. Happy New Year to you and Meghan!

@EllenAuckland Жыл бұрын

Prior to today I’d never heard of your channel or of Filmora. I’ve just sat and watched all of these videos and have now subscribed to your channel. I have a lot of respect for you and how you have handled this situation. More companies need to be held accountable and I’m glad people with a voice like yourself are holding these companies to account. You’ve gained yourself a new fan 🎉

@90ravg 11 ай бұрын

Same here! Although I have to say: I’m thinking of a more global concept here > should customers need to go through so much time/effort, accumulated voices, painful processes, investigation, and everything that was needed in this case in order for a big company to react ethically? Its sad that’s our world; the people with the most money in the planet, changing their old contract’s wording behind scenes, lying, to get EVEN MORE money > because we have to think now, how many companies get away with this? those that did not were as “unlucky” (99% or more, of the unethical ones) as Wondershare > would love the global law to evolve into something that removes this “noise need” from customers backs / responsibility and places the burden of being simply HUMAN (ethic) on the big companies. (2) Daniel even says (im paraphrasing) “thanks for giving what customers were asking for” .. NO, it was not an ask, that’s were these big companies conceptually win or softens the blow, and derail, cause they think “ok client, you are asking for something, you need me, here you go” NO. First of all, why thank someone for something I should already have and you technically already gave to me? 2nd add on top how you’ve treated me during the way to finally have you giving me what I DESERVE, not asked, DESERVE. Wow, mega topic, global / many companies potential impact, even at capitalism grand topic scale.

@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын

As a filmora annual license holder, I am probably going to Divinci at the end of my current license. Thank you so much for everything you have done to shed light on this issue.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Now you have options. That’s all anyone wanted to begin with.

@CGPT76 Жыл бұрын

Yep, me too! I have six months to learn Davinci, already downloaded and exporting my first video as I write this!

@grantsutton8727 Жыл бұрын

Davinci Resolve is awesome

@IaconDawnshire Жыл бұрын

I've never heard of Fillmora but since the recent events I have no desire of using their software

@epmcgee Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal but Wondershare's products will never be one of them. Their corrupt practices go farther, as well. They have a data recovery tool that they advertise as being able to recover data off of a liquid damaged phone. It's $100, and to use it you must connect the liquid damaged device to your PC via cable. That same action starts to corrode any internals in contact with the the liquid, causing damage and potentially make it harder or impossible to recover the data. It's a game of pay $100 and see if you can't fry your phone.

@boccatxrx5023 Жыл бұрын

This has been a window into the inner workings of Filmora and the way they feel about their customers. They can backpedal all they like but now, after looking through that window and witnessing their attitude i can say without hesitation that they have absolutely no chance of getting a cent from me.

@Pub2k4 Жыл бұрын

I agree. The mask is off

@Axodus Жыл бұрын

there's no appreciation to be had from me as well, this is something they should've done from the start, and they only did it in the end because of the legal battles that would've occurred and subsequent bad rep.

@Mx.Canada Жыл бұрын

I had no clue this was happening, I only recently reopened Filmora and saw that ad prompting me to update, then had your previous video talking about this recommended to me. Thank you for talking about it and bringing it to attention. You are a wonderful creator, please continue making content as you're one of the best creators that I've been introduced to!

@KiteAndKeyProductions Жыл бұрын

I had never heard of your channel or Filmora until this chain of events. But I appreciate your efforts and sticking up for yourself and the little guys. The world needs more people like you.

@YouMeandSicily Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@aznfoo69 Жыл бұрын

Same here, love that everyone came together to fight the good fight. Hope we all come together to fight our global problems one day, God bless.

@upscale9109 Жыл бұрын

Same except ive heard of filmora because of sponsors

@onewithzen Жыл бұрын

YOU DID IT! You stirred the pot, rallied the troops, and took on Goliath! It couldnt have happened without you! I'm not a content creator or a video editor; just a video watcher who came across your first video about this situation days ago and i was stirred by the situation, your demeanor, and your attitude! Im awed by what you accomplished. You just gained another subscriber!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

@SourceAwareness Жыл бұрын

*"We are determined to continually pretend that we care about you. We only care about money, power, and influence, however much of it we can get! And we will continually try to find ways to scam users in the future."*

@Daniel15au Жыл бұрын

Same with me - these videos randomly appeared in my suggested videos on KZfaq. The KZfaq algorithm has brought us all together. Pretty interesting.

@Nitrometutorials Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for staying so calm and polite throughout this entire situation, Daniel. You are truly a model for all of us, this is an awesome resolution to the saga.

@jirkalange3289 Жыл бұрын

THANKS DANIEL FROM GERMANY FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND MOVING ON TO HAPPENING THIS!!!👍🏻🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@houmanp Жыл бұрын

Dear Daniel, I am one of those lifetime license holders of Filmora (since v8). Before discovering your channel, my use of Filmora was limited to animating our family photos. With your help, I took this totally private hobby to the next level. Thank you for standing by what's right and thank you for your commitment to your viwers and to the community. Respect!

@SourceAwareness Жыл бұрын

Their "fair play" is ONLY a corporate move to prevent them from losing millions of dollars and supporters. Let us not be so naive. They mostly care only about money, power and influence, rather than advancing human creativity and innovation. Time for people to get more fired up and stop being so worshipful of corrupt corporations (such as KZfaq and the U.S. Govt.).

@_garebear Жыл бұрын

I like how you approached the topic concisely without a slanted commentary. Hard to do when you're pissed off.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I try my best to stay objective

@roar666 Жыл бұрын

A LOT more objective than I was in my responses to their "we are sorry you are confused" emails 🤣

@fastfaps Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal respect

@halko1 Жыл бұрын

I got a bit mad about how Filmora treated their customers first. And I’m not even a license holder. 😂

@Truthseekershow Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal Its also scammy to let someone purchase 11 on November 30th then demand extra money to upgrade to 12 which was released just a few weeks later. I regret my purchase. The public perception is lifetime updates and upgrades. Every filmora user I talked to told me you get free updates and upgrades for life. I didn't read the fine print so I got screwed. I regret my purchase and I'm looking into other options now. Thank you for doing the right thing and not selling out for a new sponsorship to keep your mouth shut. Just found your channel recently, love it. Thanks for all your excellent advice too on growing your youtube channel!

@Jezroth Жыл бұрын

I just stumbled upon this whole story and after watching some 4 or 5 videos that you've released on it, I offer you nothing but praise for your stand and hope that things end well for you as well

@rano12321 Жыл бұрын

Aside from Filmora. Gotta give props to you for the most clearest and cleanest most high res video I've seen on YT. Now we gotta see some resolve content from you.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@halko1 Жыл бұрын

This is awesome! I congratulate Filmora for taking the right action. HOWEVER they really should’ve stopped when they were ahead.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I’m glad they came around

@halko1 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal Definitely! And it’s also the best business decision because not respecting the promises they would lose a lot more future business. Of course they shouldn’t have gone this route in the first place, but we all make stupid mistakes. It’s the way you handle the situation after being pointed out that shows who you truly are. And in that regard Filmora made the right decision. Must applaud for that.

@earlysda Жыл бұрын

Why "stop" when your company is based in China?

@Calisota Жыл бұрын

@@earlysda Because China is not everyone and not a perfect market. There is a reason so many Chinese Publishers buy into western Gamestudios and Companys. If the Chinese Market was stable and peofitable enough they wouldnt need it, however, China is NOT rich and the users are more likely to take pirate turns.

@gstreetgames2530 Жыл бұрын

@@earlysda Taiwan or bust!

@danielwoodbridge7244 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Daniel for making these videos. I was not familiar with your channel but this saga really caught my attention. It was great you had such a leverage of your channel to see this through. I hope any future attempt similar to that of Filmora will fail and breaking licenses on companies's sides will not became a norm.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@RoberttheotherWeasley Жыл бұрын

Never used Filmora but have been following your coverage of this situation and wanted to say hands down that you are probably the main reason this change is being put into effect, good job man!!! Glad users will get what they deserve!!!

@Matt8643 Жыл бұрын

Love the update! I just cancelled my Filmora Filmstock subscription and I let them know that I didn't care for how they treated their loyal customers with the licensing terms changing. I'm glad they are trying to reach out to the community to make it right but it's too little for me. I'll be switching to different editing software.

@radioactivelight Жыл бұрын

I’ve used Adobe Premiere for over 15 years to produce a long running nationally broadcast television show, Adobe is the best.

@DKayVideos Жыл бұрын

We stand by you @Daniel Batal. You represented our voice to Wondershare. We won't let anyone implicate you for bringing justice to so many Filmora Subscribers.

@AyaxRo Жыл бұрын

Congrats on not backing down. Im only here because your first video on this went viral. I'm only slightly interested in video editing but I still subbed and will be looking forward to your content.

@TheShadowPhoenix Жыл бұрын

It seems like you are being incredibly patient and professional in handling this situation and in informing us on the happenings as well. Subbed 👍

@rei6249 Жыл бұрын

as a lifetime license holder I've been following this series of yours since the first video and it's been an crazy journey down this rabbit hole! Thank you for raising your voice and helping in rallying the troops Daniel!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Thanks to everyone! ❤️

@seeanthonyn Жыл бұрын

Im not even a video editor nor have I used any of these software but I enjoyed this series of videos very much and the unfolding of events. Im glad that everything was RESOLVEd to your liking. Love the ending by the way!

@ClayWheeler Жыл бұрын

lol RESOLVE. The free version of DaVinci Resolve is richer than Filmora 12 months subscription

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

😜

@joshallen128 Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal did you pay for a lifetime license to dr

@xxvohmxx Жыл бұрын

Tysm for keeping me informed on this situation!!!

@KiwiExpressCream Жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel, I have no idea why KZfaq recommended this (and your previous video) - I'd never even heard of Filmora, but you seem like a great guy, decent, honest and solid. I really dislike big companies crapping on the little guy and I admire the stand you have taken. You just stick to the facts, you're respectful and you give credit where credit's due, both to your followers and to Filmora with their compensation. Good luck with your copyright claim and keep fighting the good fight ✊

@dantheman2907 Жыл бұрын

A couple of days ago I had no idea who you were and I don't even use Filmora, but I'm so glad to hear it's all worked out in the customers' favor. I hope the DMCA and any threats of litigation end just as positively as the rest of the saga.

@alexthai4957 Жыл бұрын

You sir, are a rock star in every sense of the word. Your integrity, commitment, and contribution to the community is exemplary. Thanks for all you do!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the kind words ❤️

@aStranger_ Жыл бұрын

Even looks like Claudios Sanchez's long lost brother haha

@joshf8790 Жыл бұрын

Just watched this whole saga.. looking forward to aby further updates.. you have my respect man.

@realharnold Жыл бұрын

I've never even used Filmora, but stumbled across this video somehow. Crazy story with a hopefully good resolution as long as they drop the legal threat nonsense and let the copyright claim die... I dig your style. You've got a new sub!

@RaspberryMeatsicle Жыл бұрын

Not a Filmora user but as a musician I have a bunch of lifetime licenses, some of which are for software I don't even really use lately so I've been following this saga intently. Glad the community stepped up, it would have set a bad precedent to pull the rug on lifetime licenses. The canary in the coal mine etc, this is about more than just Filmora. Thanks for calling them out and being civil and cool headed about it all. Chalk this up as a W (with an asterisk heh)

@wizdude Жыл бұрын

I’m not a filmora user but this whole series of videos came to me and I have been watching them with great interest. A big shout out to everyone for banding together and also for LTT for joining in as well. I hope everything between Wondershare and Daniel is RESOLVEd cleanly 😊

@bacarrihall2892 Жыл бұрын

A major thanks to you Daniel! I know you were not the only voice but definitely the voice the got their attention. Because of you I now have my lifetime license with Filmora 12!

@funny_looking Жыл бұрын

I used your videos to learn how to use Filmora and edit my stuff. You got straight to the point and made things so much easier. I can't believe they're coming at you like this. I hope everything gets resolved for you!

@MohammadUmairAnsari Жыл бұрын

In the sea of fakes, you are authentic and genuinely worthy of being called an Influencer. You stood up for what was right and didn't give in to the traps of the company & made them correct their conduct. The rollercoaster ride of the last three videos (which happen to be my first three videos I watched of yours) will stay long in my memory. From now on this will be my go to case study for online PR & brand reputation. Bravo

@charliekelly3173 Жыл бұрын

Influence comes in good and bad forms. Even though, yes Daniel is one of the good ones, there are all kinds out there and they are all legitimate influencers. A bad influence is still an influence sadly.

@punjabweatherupdates Жыл бұрын

@@charliekelly3173 and all others here, I am new to video editing and thinking to buy Filmora. I know that that music files on Filmora has copyrights. Would it be okay to use their stickers (KZfaq subscription) and other templates are copy right free ?

@mrbungledisco Жыл бұрын

They knew they messed up, and were hoping that everyone would just go along with it. Thanks for following through with all of this

@geraldmartin7417 Жыл бұрын

Brother, I don't do anything related to video or editing but I love watching your videos. I somehow stumbled upon your Filmora drama and I can't wait to see what happens next. Keep fighting the good fight.

@dahness564 Жыл бұрын

Omg Daniel i remember watching you when you had like a few thousand subs, i think after this whole crazy ride with filmora i will start watching again. The thing that has not changed is that you still got that rock dad vibe, gotta love it

@rayray2glocks Жыл бұрын

Wow! Didn't even know about you, your channel or filmora and these videos give me hope!! You stood up for what was right and stared ruin in the face for your troubles. A really inspiring tale to be sure.

@PsRohrbaugh Жыл бұрын

You are a rare person - fair but firm. You have handled this saga masterfully, and it's been great to see. Thank you for standing up for what is right.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so much for the superthanks! I really appreciate that 💓

@hancin993 Жыл бұрын

I don't use Filmora, but I'm glad the algorithm decided to give you a boost so we can be aware of what's going on. You've done a great job describing the situation in a way that people can understand. While I don't really do video editing, I usually am the place for suggestions in my friend circle and will take this info into account if people are getting into editing. Cheers.

@cvvision Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Daniel, keep up good work

@valueforvalue76 Жыл бұрын

Loved the Resolve at the end! Best part of the video.

@lisha013 Жыл бұрын

I don't edit videos or have any interest in learning how to, but I subscribed to your channel because of the way you have handled this situation. You have been calm and kind through this whole thing. We need more people like you in this world and on this platform.

@TLW9 Жыл бұрын

Oh.. Yea me too,

@BAJuggalo Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@uli2258 Жыл бұрын

Same here

@trentmacintosh Жыл бұрын

Wow...while surfing KZfaq I came across your first video explaining the start of this entire saga and remained on the edge of my seat until eventually coming to this post. Congratulations on remaining steadfast to the principle of truth and transparency regarding how companies conduct themselves with customers! Even through the potential naysayers, you continued to hold the company accountable and let your voice be heard in every way possible. Kudos to your tenacity! I am not in the business of editing videos, but I am subscribing to your channel just on the strength of your actions through this entire matter! Keep up the awesome work, Daniel, and I wish you all the best in 2023 and beyond!

@LTV746 Жыл бұрын

You absolute legend. It’s because of you people had a platform to bounce off. Instant sub and thank you for resolving the situation. Need more people like you

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

It was everyone who joined in but thank you for the kind words ❤️

@MonterCH 9 ай бұрын

all support for you Daniel I really loved this video final speech and outro

@Daniel_Batal 9 ай бұрын

❤️☮️

@GraemeCampbellMusic Жыл бұрын

I’m not a Filmora user but always found your videos really helpful with video stuff. One of the things you have demonstrated so brilliantly in these recent videos is conflict management and how to act with integrity in a dispute. I’ve learned a lot. The way you’ve conducted yourself is so good to see.

@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын

Well done! This is a massive win. You sponsored filmora at the start, grew their presence through your videos and indeed a license for life did really mean for life. Fair play for them doing that, and a great win you

@alvintan3516 Жыл бұрын

I like how you end it brother, it made me laugh. Thank you for being our voice in our LIFETIME subscription with Filmora.

@jimkropf5530 Жыл бұрын

Daniel, I am absolutely ecstatic over the recent developments. I am emotionally, (not physically, I'm old), jumping up and down. The power of the "little guy" when we come together en mass is truly a wonderful sight to behold. If more people realized just how much power they wield when we come together I think major corporations would get away with a lot less Chicanery. Thank you for your initial video that started it all. Thank you for not taking the bribe Wondershare offered you to return to being a paid endorsee of the product. Thank you for this video and thank you for your hundreds, if not thousands of fantastic video tutorials. I used to be a batalion member but the recent economy forced me to cut back a bit. So forgive me for that. I am still an avid watcher and promoter (to my editing friends) of your channel. I am going to include a one-time "thanks" donation because no one deserves it more than you, Thank you so much for all you do. I hope I get to meet you in person someday. P.S. The new version 12 does look pretty cool because they finally included something I've been asking for since version 8. Custom, editable mask points. Can't wait to try it.

@Nutrafin-3D Жыл бұрын

Easily the most professional addressing of a silly situation I've ever seen. Congrats on helping your community

@WORTHITORNOT Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling they will “initiate “ legal action via a response from their attorney, but if that happens, start a crowdfunding legal campaign to fight back as I’m sure a lot of people would be willing to pitch in, me included

@RuizFrances Жыл бұрын

He should also countersue and he would definitely win because the company's behavior is clearly harassing and illegal.

@HaddaClu Жыл бұрын

Definitely smells like a threat of a defamation suit

@RandallHammer Жыл бұрын

This video thread was so good and informative. Thank you so much for your content. Now, off to the verdict on the next video, haha! Cheers!

@FollowMe88 Жыл бұрын

Amazing work Daniel!

@ianvanwyk3707 Жыл бұрын

I'm not even involved in the video editing space and stumbled across this video (and the preceding one where you raised the issue) by chance. Your guts for tackling the issue head on is inspiring and proof that we as consumers can get corpos to listen if we make our voices heard.

@yavko Жыл бұрын

This is why I only use open source software, I don't need to deal with these kinds of issues with open source software.

@pachecodosunosiete Жыл бұрын

I came here because of the gossip and drama, but now I'm staying because this dude is so professional, humble, intelligent, and a person that seems to build trust in his community in order to form better and more professional creators. This guy rocks.

@CanitoCoolPR Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your stand up on the problem. You are the best!

@nomeproductionsLLC Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for what you did to bring this to our attention & following through till the end. So many people out there would have caved when things got sticky. If you need any help in your journey with Filmora's legal Issues, your community is behind you. Stay strong.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks! I appreciate that

@Gitum Жыл бұрын

You've done great work for the users of Filmora! As long as it won't hurt you in any legal capacity, please keep us posted with regards to the copyright strike removal :)

@Mogzrl Жыл бұрын

wow what a massive win. Congrats!

@PotatoMagnet Жыл бұрын

Man, I don't know who you are, what you do but KZfaq recommendations of your original licence issue video brought me to your channel and I'm glad I stayed throughout to hear the outcome. I like the calm and composed way that you speak and present your videos. Cheers!

@TheArtsyPineapple Жыл бұрын

Love the not-so-sneaky resolve plug at the end 🤣 I hope you get everything worked out with that strike, and THANK YOU for standing up for us! 🥰

@Endiiii Жыл бұрын

You were the literal reason i got Filmora. And the reason i learned so much about editing, thank you for doing so much dude, it's always appreciated my dude! By everyone!

@EliteMediaDM Жыл бұрын

Same here!

@SensationallySilky Жыл бұрын

I know absolutely NOTHING about editing video. But somehow your vids got recommended and I watched a bunch of them late last week. Seeing this today gave me a smile. Excellent job, sir. You really handled the whole thing with class.

@garrieirons Жыл бұрын

Great outcome. Well done for remaining extremely level in all your content regarding this issue.

@Aaron-xr7oc Жыл бұрын

Woah what is the coincidence how the algorithm recommends me you, and after watching the previous Filmora videos, you just post a new video! Nice.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Thank you. KZfaq!

@RehanAliMusic Жыл бұрын

Now keep in mind filmore only did this cuz of the voice people raised and the public pressure. So filmora is not like some nice company. Filmora users should not forget how they tried to screw filmora users. Anyway thank you Daniel I'm not a filmora user but I'm happy that you put them in their place.

@phadrus Жыл бұрын

Right!!

@comsfitness Жыл бұрын

Appreciate your work bro. From the tutorials to standing up for us in this messed up situation. Seriously, wtf Filmora?!

@jimdeery2709 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your hard work on this issue.

@Dmitriy.0 Жыл бұрын

As a Lifetime Fillmora license holder I must thank you Daniel, as well as thousands of other voices all over KZfaq that raised hell over this. As a hobbyist video editor, I switched to DaVinci Resolve years ago, and even forgot that I had a Fillmora Lifetime license until I logged back into their website. I recommend that everyone who still edits on Fillmora at the very least give Resolve a try.

@itweeb4765 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for recommending alternatives.

@Kevinrichardsonministries Жыл бұрын

Darkness hates light... and thus... it scatters. Thanks for going to bat for us all Daniel. Thumbs Up Bro... you da man...

@proto57 Жыл бұрын

Wow... Congratulations! This really bothered me when I came across it, even though I am not a Filmora user! But similar things have happened to me in the past, and I've heard of other cases for various products of all types. Your pushing this issue to eventual and justified conclusion was really gratifying. And I think that your successful cause here will be referenced in other and future cases, and also be a warning to companies to not try to pull crap like this in the future. Really, very well done!

@dvaoa2910 Жыл бұрын

Daniel - well done. Nice, persistent work.

@technologyjunkie01 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Daniel for keeping us fully informed. It seems as though the threats and bullying continue. The attitude on FIlmora's behalf on this situation, that by the way they created, has broken my trust in them completely. They just don't know when to stop and admit they made a mistake, but continue to threaten users. We ARE Wondershare's existence. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Making the move to other pastures.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Let’s hope everything resolves itself peacefully

@LucienSabre Жыл бұрын

Same here. I had the Filmora trial saved on my laptop (together with a few other video-editing programs I’ve had on my dedicated list)….and was actually planning to install it soon, but after hearing about this sh*t they tried to pull I deleted the program installer and took the software off the list entirely - I’m not paying any company who uses this shady money-grabbing tactics.

@rbae Жыл бұрын

Another piece of good news is that the greater KZfaq community was able to find your amazing channel through this onslaught of controversy :) glad I found your content and I'm sure others are too

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Agreed! I am thankful for how kind everyone has been to me personally while telling this story ❤️

@ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras Жыл бұрын

Oh man, the ending of this video was AWESOME and CLASSIC. Well played Daniel!!

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

I couldn't resist.

@ChrisMitchells_FlyingCameras Жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Batal you nailed it!

@jonathanthedeceptikon Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for posting this video. I had a lifetime license and just got things straightened out for v12. Appreciate all you do!

@dannydavis6659 Жыл бұрын

Thankyou Daniel for your part in all this, your voice was the loudest of them all, and being a former ambassador it probably stung the most as well, hence their online and legal attention. Just know you have our gratitude .

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

❤

@ImSEOKing Жыл бұрын

Yea... Daniel Batal is my fav KZfaqr 4 sure

@kwsx11 Жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear about the positive outcome, but it's bittersweet given the thinly-veiled threat you (and potentially other members of the community) received. Thank you again for your integrity as a creator. I am confident that your appeal will be successful, and I hope that Filmora doesn't jeopardize the positive elements of their response by continuing to pursue this fruitless action.

@ForeverSongMinistries Жыл бұрын

Very thin!!!

@SourceAwareness Жыл бұрын

@kwsx11, NOTHING was "thinly veiled" about their pathetic threat to Daniel. They are PHONY, only doing this because they would no doubt lose millions of dollars and supporters if they didn't. Corporate KZfaq is no different, and only lightened up on their bogus "medical misinformation" policy when the TRUTH about you-know-what began coming out more and more.

@SourceAwareness Жыл бұрын

@@ForeverSongMinistries Nope, there is nothing "thin" about any threat. They were targeting Daniel and anyone like him who exposes their lies and deceptions. They are a dark and deceptive company, same as corporate KZfaq, that resorts to bullying and lies and censorship, same as KZfaq. *_Time for people to wake up._*

@superslash7254 Жыл бұрын

An appeal isn't enough. False DMCA claims are perjury, which is a felony. This needs to be pursued.

@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын

The company tried to gaslight its customers. It wanted to change the terms of contracts with these customers unilaterally, and it tried to force this on customers by using misleading language that didn’t appear in the original agreement. The only thing that forced Filmora to honor its agreements and keep its promises was the social backlash which could have affected sales. It’s not doing anyone any favors. It’s doing what it required to do and that it unethically tried to avoid doing. That the company included the threat indicates that the company is still run by highly unethical people.

@skyluna Жыл бұрын

Thank you Daniel for talking about this in public. I'm a lifetime holder and I didn't know until today! 😮 I downloaded 12 and installed it with no problem. Thank you!!!😁

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

Fantastic!

@5e60 Жыл бұрын

Your first video about this topic was recommended to me, and as a lifetime license owner of Filmora, I was curious about it. I'm very glad that you took the initiative to expose their wrong ways. Thanks for creating the awareness for the issue and fighting for what's right.

@flogowizda3649 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for standing up and giving justice to all Filmora lifetime licensed users Daniel! Happy new year! Take care!

@schoolruler2 Жыл бұрын

I have a Filmora lifetime license. I have made less than 10 videos, but expect it to be there when I want to make one.

@pnwnvtz3715 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Daniel Batal for speaking out and helping correct a serious problem for those who do not have a large voice. You were, and still are, a great instructor for all things Filmora.

@strikethroughstudio Жыл бұрын

Such a good news!!! I love you for this update!!! 💗💗💗💗💗

@CanteLizzie Жыл бұрын

I knew of filmora but was not a user. Like many people I was pulled in on the first video about filmora. I'm tired of companies going back on their word for profit. I wish you lots of luck, Daniel. Thanks for having so much integrity and standing up for the regular people

@SasteyVloggers Жыл бұрын

I don’t know how I should thank you Daniel. It is you the only person to raise up first after filmora lifetime licence controversy. Biggest thanks to you ♥️. I think it wasn’t possible enough if you weren’t there to to have a conversation about their stupid misconception.

@Daniel_Batal Жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. I thank everyone involved including Filmora

@SasteyVloggers Жыл бұрын

Hey one more thing I wanna ask that will filmora be offering the lifetime license purchase for the users who want to buy a lifetime license or not ..?

@briannajazmin7144 Жыл бұрын

I have no idea how I ended up on video editing youtube but love that you stuck to your guns & were so transparent with your audience! This was a wild ride & I'm binging the videos so Im glad it seems like it's going to work out for those who were grandfathered into the LIFETIME plan!