Pirate Expert Rates Scenes From Hollywood Movies About Piracy

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Iszi Lawrence, comedian, podcaster and history presenter rates portrayals of pirates in four Hollywood movies. Iszi worked on the Netflix documentary 'The Lost Pirate Kingdom' and is the author of Blackbeard's Treasure, a tale set in the eighteenth century during the golden age of piracy in the Caribbean.
Iszi first reviews scenes from 'Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl' (2003). She thinks Johnny Depp's portrayal of Captain Jack Sparrow as a 'rockstar' is accurate, given contemporary perceptions of pirate captains.
Next, she looks at modern piracy in 'Captain Phillips' (2013), which recreates the true story of the
Maersk Alabama hijacking by Somali pirates.
Scenes from the classic film 'Treasure Island' (1950) are broken down next. Robert Newton's version of Long John Silver, with his distinct West Country accent, has been credited with creating the archetypal pirate for modern film.
Finally, Iszi reviews more humorous depictions of pirates in 'Muppet Treasure Island' (1996), starring Tim Curry as Long John Silver.
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00:00 Introduction
00:36 Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
09:11 Captain Phillips (2013)
15:50 Treasure Island (1950)
22:36 Muppet Treasure Island (1996)

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@HistoryHit
@HistoryHit 10 ай бұрын
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@leoperidot482
@leoperidot482 10 ай бұрын
Heres some other pirate movies that were overlooked. AGAINST ALL FLAGS. THE BLACK SWAN. THE BUCCANEER. CAPTAIN BLOOD. CAPTAIN KIDD. THE CRIMSON PIRATE. CUTTHROAT ISLAND. DAMN THE DEFIANT. THE DEVIL-SHIP PIRATES. HOOK. THE ICE PIRATES. THE ISLAND. PAN. PETER PAN. THE SEA HAWK. SERENITY. THE SPOILERS. SWASHBUCKLER. TREASURE PLANET.
@jansonshrock2859
@jansonshrock2859 10 ай бұрын
the black pearl's cannon deck is below the top which is why it doesn't look that packed on the top deck during the assault on Port Royale
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 10 ай бұрын
I was surprised that the captain's quarters in the 1950s film were depicted as having potted flowers. But I suppose it was right for the character, that he would put aside water for plants that could be given to people.
@alexlong5705
@alexlong5705 10 ай бұрын
I think she took the scene from muppet treasure island too literally. When their saying how they could have been this and that their just lying, trying to convince young jim hawkins that being a pirate is a great life when in reality they’re a bunch of cutthroats and scum bags, and most of them not that bright.
@TheCrayonMaster
@TheCrayonMaster 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear what she has to say about the show Black Sails 😊
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 10 ай бұрын
the reason Michael Caine and Tim Curry are so good in their respective Muppet movies is that Michael Caine treats the Muppets as fellow actors, and Tim Curry treats himself as a fellow Muppet
@andrewvanness2101
@andrewvanness2101 10 ай бұрын
That’s the best thing I’ve ever read on the internet.
@clairethompson5549
@clairethompson5549 10 ай бұрын
This is the most accurate thing I’ve read all day.
@CJ4S147
@CJ4S147 10 ай бұрын
I should know this but what pirate movie was Caine in? I don’t have time to watch the whole video before work and I’m curious.
@CJ4S147
@CJ4S147 10 ай бұрын
I get it now, Caine was also in a muppet movie
@1987MartinT
@1987MartinT 10 ай бұрын
That's part of why those two are such amazing actors.
@CJ4S147
@CJ4S147 10 ай бұрын
I love how this person is so sarcastically serious about judging the accuracy, historical and otherwise of a muppet movie.
@beludrugueri7776
@beludrugueri7776 4 ай бұрын
Love iszi!! And that name! Reminded me of Izzy hands! Gotta love pirates 😍
@s.f.nightingale1735
@s.f.nightingale1735 4 ай бұрын
to be fair the muppet christmas carol has some of the greatest historical costumes of all time.
@Rosedawn321
@Rosedawn321 10 ай бұрын
“A movie without Miss Piggy isn’t a movie!” Love it!
@morrisonscott702
@morrisonscott702 10 ай бұрын
Hello how're you doing?
@CarterElkins
@CarterElkins 10 ай бұрын
I liked this presenter. A lot of expert reactions feel like the expert has a chip on their shoulder, and is just looking to dump on all your favorite things (often for superficial reasons). Iszi had a great balance of praise and critique, mixed with humor and education. Well done!
@53knights
@53knights 10 ай бұрын
I dunno if it was this channel or another one, but one expert judging surviving while stranded at sea, they gave the always Sunny in Philadelphia clip a 10/10
@Wandervenn
@Wandervenn 10 ай бұрын
I suppose if you're an expert on pirates then it pays to have an element of whimsy somewhere.
@NeroIML
@NeroIML 9 ай бұрын
I would like to recommend Matt Easton and his KZfaq channel Scholagladiatora, if you like experts analyzing popular media with a more positive outlook. He's an expert in historical fighting and weapons and has quite a few videos where he analyzes scenes from historical and fantasy films, and he does so with an eye for the cinematic aspects as well as his area of expertise.
@CarterElkins
@CarterElkins 9 ай бұрын
@@NeroIML Thanks for the recommendation! I checked out a few of his things, and I like his style as well.
@dacksonflux
@dacksonflux 8 ай бұрын
I don't really agree. Most of them take the commentating with stride. They frequently give higher scores just for how entertaining the movies were. Maybe you're just bummed to hear that your favorite movies aren't exceptionally accurate.
@rjh00
@rjh00 10 ай бұрын
Loved this expert. Not only did she critique the movies from a historical point of view but also from a cinematic point of view when it totally didn't make sense, but at the same time giving the movies enough leeway when it did make sense. She seems like a very fun person to be friends with and would love to hear her tell more stories about pirates.
@darnmarr
@darnmarr 8 ай бұрын
^this^
@Zerradable
@Zerradable 6 ай бұрын
Sure, she looks like the funny people that call you a national socialist for drinking milk :))
@darnmarr
@darnmarr 6 ай бұрын
Intolerance and lactose intolerance are not the same thing. @@Zerradable
@MorriganAtwood
@MorriganAtwood 10 ай бұрын
Elizabeth: [stabs Barbossa] Expert: This is not accurate; if you stabbed a pirate they would probably die. Peak comedy, I do not want to learn history from anyone else.
@Julia-lk8jn
@Julia-lk8jn 7 ай бұрын
I don't know, I feel that Barbossa's reaction might have been accurate enough for a _cursed_ pirate. But I've got to admit, there aren't a lot of historical sources on those.
@BeautifulGazelle06
@BeautifulGazelle06 2 ай бұрын
@@Julia-lk8jnI mean that depends of if you count STDs as “curses”
@thesumofmyfear
@thesumofmyfear 10 ай бұрын
I think they didn't want Elizabeth to drop the medallion because with it being dark they'd have a hard time finding it before the port mounted an organized response. They may have attacked with surprise, but the Fort still had large guns overlooking the harbor. And that's assuming the medallion wasn't lost in the mud or sand. Besides, seeing it after all that time, they really really wanted it as soon as possible.
@kyndramb7050
@kyndramb7050 10 ай бұрын
From what I know from fishing, fish go after shiny things... Could have easily been swallowed by sealife and it's gone forever.
@Julia-lk8jn
@Julia-lk8jn 10 ай бұрын
very good points!
@carly7522
@carly7522 10 ай бұрын
Ive lost jewellry at the beach. 2 seconds in the water or sand and its gonzo mate.
@1412mariLU
@1412mariLU 10 ай бұрын
Yes to all the things above. The only thing that doesn't make sense is the "medallion calls" part. When Elizabeth falls into the water there's this weird shock wave which I always assumed was the reason why Barbossa knew where to look for the medallion and steered the Black Pearl into Port Royal. But if that was the case they could also track it if Elizabeth dropped it.
@williammcginnis7772
@williammcginnis7772 10 ай бұрын
@@1412mariLU I think that is because for as long as Elizabeth had it, it had no contact with water, I don't know if it would be constantly pinging while submerged or not but it does feel like a bit of a bad design.
@alan-dx2zf
@alan-dx2zf 10 ай бұрын
This lady is brilliant. More of her please
@skipenguins
@skipenguins 10 ай бұрын
God no, unless she does some (or any in fact) research in to what she is commenting on before speaking.
@DJRockford83
@DJRockford83 10 ай бұрын
​@@skipenguinsnot just me that noticed that then
@ponchopower
@ponchopower 10 ай бұрын
Lots of talking coming from the wrong end
@tnatstrat7495
@tnatstrat7495 10 ай бұрын
​@@skipenguins What did she get wrong?
@MrWoIf
@MrWoIf 10 ай бұрын
@@skipenguins did you do that before making this comment or are you just daft?
@davidkinsey8657
@davidkinsey8657 10 ай бұрын
More pirate movie commentary please. Black Sails, Captain Blood, Hook, Cutthroat Island, Legend of Blackbeard, The Buccaneer, Pirates of Penzance.
@JenFoxworth
@JenFoxworth 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely Hook!
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 10 ай бұрын
Blackbeard is highly exaggerated, whereas Black Bart Roberts is completely ignored, despite being the most successful Western Pirate.
@ramonribascasasayas7877
@ramonribascasasayas7877 10 ай бұрын
And One Piece! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@darkmagician2521
@darkmagician2521 10 ай бұрын
And the Monkey Island game series.
@SimonAshworthWood
@SimonAshworthWood 10 ай бұрын
And “The Pirate Movie” and Roman Polanski’s “Pirates”.
@Fridao94
@Fridao94 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see her rate scenes from "Black Sails"
@mjinba07
@mjinba07 10 ай бұрын
Best EVER. But she'd have to devote two entire videos to it.
@moriahw3947
@moriahw3947 10 ай бұрын
Maybe there will be a part two! Theyve done that before here.
@HankyPanky44
@HankyPanky44 10 ай бұрын
Came here to write this, thank you
@EliSzydlo
@EliSzydlo 10 ай бұрын
Agreed! I wholly support historical reactions to Black Sails.
@pszczolka80
@pszczolka80 10 ай бұрын
I would also love this.
@Blackchain119
@Blackchain119 10 ай бұрын
I imagine the leg irons on his wrists were because they didn't readily have cuffs nearby. I recall the Commodore saying "Gillette, fetch some irons", so it stands to reason they grabbed just whatever was nearby, and (uncomfortably) at this time of history slave ships were fairly common, so you might find some leg irons near the docks... Also, plot convenience.
@obediahpolkinghorniii564
@obediahpolkinghorniii564 10 ай бұрын
Bloody Gillette! He never gets anything right.
@amandaritzau2602
@amandaritzau2602 10 ай бұрын
I think it shows how stupid the soldiers were in the movie... seriously most of em were not smart
@davesmith3803
@davesmith3803 9 ай бұрын
@@amandaritzau2602 In the day everyone went in for very harsh punishments for vanishingly small offences. The harsher and more unforgiving the leader the stupider the followers get from anxiety and fear.
@PortCharmers
@PortCharmers 8 ай бұрын
I suppose they were leg-irons because otherwise Jack's stunt wouldn't have worked out
@Blackchain119
@Blackchain119 7 ай бұрын
​@@PortCharmersAs I said, plot convenience.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 10 ай бұрын
This was just marvellous. Muppet Treasure Island might just be my favourite childhood movie, and I love how she approached it.
@matthewfullerton1416
@matthewfullerton1416 10 ай бұрын
More pirate content from Iszi please!! Would love yo hear what she thinks of Black Sails. It is also downright criminal that you did not include Suzy Izzards portrayal of Long John Silver as I personally believe it's the best one
@marieroberts5664
@marieroberts5664 10 ай бұрын
Is Suzy Izzards related to Eddie Izzard?
@matthewfullerton1416
@matthewfullerton1416 10 ай бұрын
@@marieroberts5664 Eddie changed name to Suzy
@marieroberts5664
@marieroberts5664 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewfullerton1416 did not know that! Thanks for the info.
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 10 ай бұрын
No. Pride month is over. Go back to your closets.
@zoinomiko
@zoinomiko 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Black Sails!!!
@gorzkawodka
@gorzkawodka 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the corset part. Corsets weren't a torture device, they were comfortable and women enjoyed wearing them, especially women who did manual labor (cleaning, cooking, washing, other house chores) because corset supports your back.
@katherinegilks3880
@katherinegilks3880 10 ай бұрын
They were basically the equivalent of bras. Not necessarily comfortable, especially if not properly fitted, but better than having one's breasts bouncing around or drooping heavily. The "torture device" corsets weren't until the later Victorian era.
@GoddessNeith
@GoddessNeith 10 ай бұрын
@@katherinegilks3880 and only for those who could afford to buy Paris gowns. Victorian corsets are quite comfy as well. unless you're an idiot who tight laces.
@breannadeal8610
@breannadeal8610 9 ай бұрын
I have a nice one I wear when we go to Renaissance fairs and I find it very comfortable! The back support is honestly so amazing. We're walking around and sitting on uncomfortable seats all day and I'd be miserable without the support of the corset.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 8 ай бұрын
There always some one trying the extra tight makes you look thin / fashionable.
@thenablade858
@thenablade858 5 ай бұрын
@@katherinegilks3880Exactly. Empress Elizabeth of Austria (famous for the really sanitized Romy Schneider films) wore ridiculously tight-fitting corsets because she was obsessed with maintaining her weight and beauty.
@8jazz8
@8jazz8 10 ай бұрын
What a great presenter, this might be the best “academic reacts” video I’ve watched. Perfect balance of pointing out what’s wrong (and giving so many interesting facts) vs. Recognising when it’s best to just say “never mind”
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 10 ай бұрын
Long John Silver was the Quartermaster of Captain Flint, so not an officer per say, he looked after the crew, provisions and their pay. It also explains how he had the money for a tavern, and his contacts necessary to form his own crew. It also explains his leadership of the former men of Flint, he was the one who was the intermediary between the leadership and the ordinary sailors, and likely looked after them when needed. This position accorded him respect, but also fear as he could easily denied provisions or pay from those who displeased him, and it is made clear by Billy Bones that Silver was deeply feared by him and many others because of his ability to command the men and have them act on his whims. But he wouldn't have the notoriety to be wanted by the Admiralty for high crimes.
@EmperorSmith
@EmperorSmith 10 ай бұрын
The quartermaster ranked higher than any other officer aboard the ship except the captain himself, and could veto the captain's decisions whenever the ship was not chasing a prize or engaged in battle.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 10 ай бұрын
@@EmperorSmith that might have been the case with a few pirate ships or small trading vessels, but definitely not for the navy of the period nor the large merchant ships. The Quartermaster would be among mid-level NCOs at the time, but still below Master at Arms, the Carpenter, the Rope Maker, Gunner, Surgeon, the Clerk, and Boatswain, and officers like the senior midshipmen, Master, and the lieutenants, and the Master and Commander.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was very disappointing to hear her call Long John Silver a captain. He nearly was, and for a good while practically was, but never quite really.
@Rystefn
@Rystefn 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewgillies7509 But it doesn't matter how the Navy did it. It only matters how Flint's crew did it.
@matthewgillies7509
@matthewgillies7509 10 ай бұрын
@@Rystefn Easy, they did it like every other ship, and the Quartermaster wasn't a high level officer. Sailors at this period were not known to be innovators, and were extremely traditional and superstitious. They would not have imposed a new or unfamiliar system, and would have adopted what was already normal and expected.
@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus
@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus 10 ай бұрын
I like that she accepts certain artistic licence when trying to make a fictional story, and her criticisms are more letting people know it's wrong VS saying the whole movie is crap.
@charlotteslays
@charlotteslays 10 ай бұрын
i want her to review our flag means death - its not trying to be that accurate but id love to know her opinions
@marieroberts5664
@marieroberts5664 10 ай бұрын
Aye aye and hear hear!
@americaroleplayer
@americaroleplayer 10 ай бұрын
Ironically enough the homosexuality of the pirates is one of the most accurate things on the show lol
@charlotteslays
@charlotteslays 10 ай бұрын
@@americaroleplayer well obviously; but like the costuming only had a small budget so theyre not super accurate (nor were they trying to be with taika in full leather) or like the language they use etc but its so fun that pirates really were gay
@americaroleplayer
@americaroleplayer 10 ай бұрын
@@charlotteslays Ya, obviously the real Blackbeard wasn't dating Stede, but I am curious if he knew Stede and Calico Jack. Was Fuckery a real thing? Ect.
@sheepinwolfsk1n
@sheepinwolfsk1n 10 ай бұрын
@@americaroleplayer it's very unlikely that Blackbeard ever met Calico Jack, but it is rather well known that Stede (being a less than apt pirate in his own right) gave over his control of his ship to Blackbeard for a period of time sometime during 1717.
@sarahmillard6401
@sarahmillard6401 10 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve become aware of Izsi Lawrence - I’m now off to investigate her podcasts and other output! She’s great! 👏
@hillerymcdonald2303
@hillerymcdonald2303 10 ай бұрын
I LOVE this presenter. She is so funny and so brilliant, I would watch an entire series of her presenting documentaries about piracy!!! Love.
@uchihaitachi181
@uchihaitachi181 10 ай бұрын
I think the plot hole in Pirates about them walking along the bottom of the ocean isn’t really a hole grand scheme. It’s bloody dark underwater and it’s a kinda small thing to go looking for. So it would be a pain in the ass to go to get it
@crimsonknight7011
@crimsonknight7011 10 ай бұрын
You mentioned it was odd they were all wearing the wigs at the beginning. Well to be fair at this precise moment they were going to have a ceremony promoting him to commodore, so many it was part of the ceremony
@nazhopkins5825
@nazhopkins5825 10 ай бұрын
Need more videos on pirates! Especially exploring pirates around the middle East, Africa and India where my pirate ancestors were.
@makeda6530
@makeda6530 10 ай бұрын
She seems like she’d be a fun teacher to learn from, she looks like the cool art teacher stereotype, I love her. I also appreciate the words about Elizabeth’s stays, they always include a scene with corsetry for drama when they weren’t nearly as bad as media makes them out to be.
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
It's an inaccurate & overdone cliche that needs to be dropped off a cliff, imo. They're only uncomfortable if they're 'unseasoned' or too small, as far as I'm aware - I could buy Elizabeth being uncomfortable if her new dress (& new stays), having being made in London, rather than by a local seamstress- were a bit on the small side, but considering they're the foundation garments she would have been used to wearing all her life... it's a bit much to hear her complaining about them *all. the. time* . And stays *aren't* corsets- the terms aren't interchangeable... Stays existed between the mid-15th & early 19th c - yanking on them to lace them up, the way they do in movies & TV shows would wreck them within a wear or two; *_corsets_* were only possible after the 2nd Industrial Revolution allowed the making of the finer steel components - before then, the only part of stays that would be metal, would _occasionally_ be lacing rings, that might have served to reinforce the lacing holes (but not all stays had them, & they are **not** the same as the later metal grommets)...
@HarryFlashmanVC
@HarryFlashmanVC 10 ай бұрын
Tim Curry was brilliant a Silver.. 'when youre a professional pirate, you dont have to wear a suit'
@keithday3658
@keithday3658 10 ай бұрын
The English town of Hartlepool is somewhat famous for hanging a monkey (that was washed up from a french ship) becuase they had never seen one before and thought it was a French spy. There is even a statue in the town of this.
@jessegelhof1756
@jessegelhof1756 10 ай бұрын
I adore how she treats Muppet Treasure Island (one of the greatest films of all time) with the same analytic view as the others-- much like how the person (@tadicuslegion78) below pointed out why Caine and Curry were so good. She didn't laugh it off and give it free passes just because it's a muppet movie, but pointed out actual pros and cons regarding accuracy--giving it equal standing. And just, mad respect to her. She was wicked funny and knows her shit. All the props.
@morrisonscott702
@morrisonscott702 10 ай бұрын
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
@timexgirl
@timexgirl 10 ай бұрын
I love this explaination of pirates. I also love how passionate she is about her knowledge. I would like to see more from her if at all possible. Maybe have her review different depictions of real pirates such as blackbeard.
@aragorn0988
@aragorn0988 10 ай бұрын
For POTC, regarding the necklace, it's not about them not being able to go on the sea bottom, it's about loosing what they came for ib the water currents, which would forfeit their only chance of lifting the curse (unless you count POTC 5, which makes the 10 years of looking for a pendant useless)
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 10 ай бұрын
personally i don't really think that Pirates 5 is really seen as Canon because stranger things while flawed was a great ending to the story of jack sparrow and the pirates franchise.
@Snaggaface
@Snaggaface 10 ай бұрын
The most accurate portrayal I’ve seen was Black Sails. The horror of cannon balls sending shrapnel everywhere, some of the pirates like Ned Low (based on a true pirate) are absolutely terrifying. These shows she has looked at are what I’d call “pirate lite”
@WalesTheTrueBritons
@WalesTheTrueBritons 10 ай бұрын
A show that had every pirate possible except for the best and most successful one.
@Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts
@Annatar_Lord_of_Gifts 10 ай бұрын
One of my favorite shows of all time, a true classic
@HankyPanky44
@HankyPanky44 10 ай бұрын
@@WalesTheTrueBritons Being who?
@SimonAshworthWood
@SimonAshworthWood 10 ай бұрын
@@HankyPanky44Captain Hook, of course! 😄
@WlatPziupp
@WlatPziupp 8 ай бұрын
It's the best blend of history and myth
@noemiecansier8466
@noemiecansier8466 10 ай бұрын
Love the way she explains the economic and social background to piracy in a relatable nuanced way.
@1304arman
@1304arman 10 ай бұрын
This is one of the cutest and most charming people I saw for a long time. The speech, the voice, the style, the knowledge... respect!
@looneyflight
@looneyflight 10 ай бұрын
I missed everything she said during the professional Pirate song because I was too busy singing along. Love that movie.
@thehonoredone2361
@thehonoredone2361 10 ай бұрын
That's good, people who don't sing along should walk the plank.
@essess733
@essess733 10 ай бұрын
I like this historian, like the points she picked up on, especially how she mentioned the Somali pirates done this out of necessity, we don't realize how lucky we are not having to put our lives on the line doing criminal acts just to make a living.
@lyooyiylklykyokyklky
@lyooyiylklykyokyklky 10 ай бұрын
"why isn't everything taut?" me to myself in the mirror, every day since turning ~35
@catherinebrady4924
@catherinebrady4924 10 ай бұрын
The point about pirate captains being recognisable is very interesting. In the book at least Long John was Captain Flint's quartermaster and not a Captain at all until he declares himself Captain of the Hispaniola.
@vcg73
@vcg73 10 ай бұрын
That's hilarious. I've seen POTC: Curse of the Black Pearl a dozen times over the years and it never once occurred to me that the undead pirates could have simply taken a dip and retrieved the medallion if Elizabeth had dropped it overboard. Especially since we see that the coins call out to them like homing beacons, so they wouldn't have had to search the whole ocean floor to find it. :)
@michaelkean5969
@michaelkean5969 10 ай бұрын
but it may have just been the case of just the simple idea of loosing something they had been searching for and the simple fear of losing it again that made them jump. the stream could carry it and they could never find it.
@spaceshiplewis
@spaceshiplewis 10 ай бұрын
ocean current is a bitch, even for gold.
@Mare_Man
@Mare_Man 10 ай бұрын
​@@spaceshiplewisNot to mention mud and the possibility of the coin getting swallowed by a fish
@Liialy
@Liialy 10 ай бұрын
My take on 'we really don't want her to drop the necklace even though we can totally go get it' is 1) movie, keeping surprises for the audience 2) FINDING the bloody thing would be a pain in the ass and require keeping the ship in that one spot for a long time. The coin is small, they don't exactly have flashlights so its going to be dark down there, and the coin isn't going to go straight down so the search area is bigger than preferred (and that's assuming they don't accidentally bury the thing with disturbed substrate during the search). Also, aren't they in the open ocean at this point? If you don't have a line that reaches the bottom getting the corpse that finally finds the necklace back out could be a problem. In short, gasp because its right the fuck there and the alternative is a pain in the ass
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 8 ай бұрын
Just imagine if the pirates did it differently: Ragetti: Let it drop! We can just go in and find it! (Elizabeth drops it in) *8 hours later* Pintel: Where in blazes is the bloody thing?! Ragetti: I guess the current moves pretty swift down here. Bosun: Navy ships approaching. We have to move. Barbossa: (internally making a note to strap a cannon to Ragetti's bootstraps...)
@pmc8451
@pmc8451 5 ай бұрын
but the medallions act like beacons to the pirates, calling out to them. So it wouldn’t be that hard for them to find
@jollypatt
@jollypatt 10 ай бұрын
Such a fun and informative analysis of these films. Would love to see her review Our Flag Means Death!
@misolgit69
@misolgit69 10 ай бұрын
Robert Newton who played Long John Silver in the 1st Treasure Island movie was a classically trained actor and practically invented the ARR Jim Lad pirate character was damn near copied by a whole slew of other actors and in fact spent most of his subsequent career trying to live it down
@karlkarlos3545
@karlkarlos3545 10 ай бұрын
He also was known for having more booze than blood in his body.
@alan-dx2zf
@alan-dx2zf 10 ай бұрын
Aww I was going to say That!
@TheMadPoetHimself
@TheMadPoetHimself 10 ай бұрын
Ikr! I was waiting for her to talk about his invention of pirate talk, but it didn't really come up. That's the only thing I dislike about these bite-size analyses... she probably was aware of that fact (and others) but didn't get space to talk about everything.
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMadPoetHimself He didn't invent it, so much as observe the history of where he grew up (a seafaring community) & make use of it...
@TheMadPoetHimself
@TheMadPoetHimself 10 ай бұрын
@@OcarinaSapphr- True, but he invented the concept of it being an accent specifically used by pirates. (Although he wasn't far wrong, given that a lot of pirates were from west England. It's just that a lot of other people talked like that too).
@mattwrightauthor
@mattwrightauthor 10 ай бұрын
"If you can't fit Miss Piggy into a movie, is it a movie?" I submit to you -- No. No it isn't. 😂
@SimonAshworthWood
@SimonAshworthWood 10 ай бұрын
If only Black Sails included Miss Piggy! It would then have been a movie. 😉
@cleverusername9369
@cleverusername9369 10 ай бұрын
This awesome lady has big Lindybeige energy: consummate expert, silly sense of humor, and lots of comments like "that's weird and wrong but never mind" I adore her
@PobortzaPl
@PobortzaPl 10 ай бұрын
Let's be honest - she has way better hair than him.
@jackwish420
@jackwish420 10 ай бұрын
​@@PobortzaPlI will not stand for this Lindybeige slander😢
@PobortzaPl
@PobortzaPl 10 ай бұрын
@@jackwish420 I was speaking about the colour.
@cleverusername9369
@cleverusername9369 9 ай бұрын
Hair aside, she has a very wonderfully extremely dry sense of humour, coupled with a wealth of knowledge and a fun delivery. Shades of beige notwithstanding
@PobortzaPl
@PobortzaPl 9 ай бұрын
@@cleverusername9369 Yup, that's true.
@Airtayjay
@Airtayjay 10 ай бұрын
Do my eyes deceive me or is Muppet Treasure Island getting some recognition?! It's legit my favorite Muppets movie, SO good!
@TheMadPoetHimself
@TheMadPoetHimself 10 ай бұрын
Interestingly there actually is an instance of a pirate who was a prize fighter when on land - when he was hanged in Nassau in 1718, he wore ribbons on his hat, sleeves and trousers to the execution to show off, as apparently this was a prize fighter custom when going into the ring. Source: the voices in my head (but also probably the General History of the Pyrates, idk).
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 10 ай бұрын
1:00 I always figured that since earlier in the movie, we see her father presenting her with "the latest fashion from London", there could be 2 things at play: one is that the corset and dress, came from London and the measurements are off (and no fitting took place after it was presented); and also perhaps the maids who put her in it don't like her that much, which is why it's over tightened.
@asradtke07
@asradtke07 10 ай бұрын
Or they weren't familiar with that garment and didn't know how to tighten it properly without inadvertently tight lacing it. I think whale bone was popular at the time and rather bendy.
@JaneXemylixa
@JaneXemylixa 10 ай бұрын
It probably took several months for the order to arrive to London and another to ship it back, plus the making. Chances are she'd grown out of it xD (or didn't grow into it they way they expected. how common was that, can anyone tell?)
@sophiejones3554
@sophiejones3554 10 ай бұрын
It's also new. Natural materials take time to expand, and corsets are specifically designed to not do that. Them tearing it off like that though, is not accurate: but the fundamental issue is that the corset design is not period accurate. We earlier see Elizabeth holding on to her bedpost while a maid laces her up: but back lacing corsets wouldn't be in fashion for another century. Corsets at this time were always front lacing. They also had a rigid piece called a busk that you inserted in the front under the lacing. This is the part that a rescuer would remove to make it easier for Elizabeth to breathe deeply. Removing her entire corset like that would be grounds for Elizabeth to sue Norrington, in the real 18th Century. Being exposed in public like that would do considerable damage to her marriage prospects.
@OcarinaSapphr-
@OcarinaSapphr- 10 ай бұрын
@@sophiejones3554 Agree 💯%! Also- they would be *_stays_* at this time, *not* a corset- so they'd be even _more_ comfortable (at least as comfortable as a new dress made of- I want to say- a lined & painted silk would be- I find it hard to believe the *_Governor_* would buy his daughter a _print_ dress) - & a new & slightly too small bodice would be uncomfortable, no matter what the age of the setting. Stays & corsets are **not** interchangeable, no matter what media has to say on it. Stays date from the mid-late 15th century, to the early-mid 19th - corsets date from the mid-19th century, when the later period of the Industrial Revolution made production of the fine steel components possible; before that point, the only metal components of a pair of stays _might_ have been metal lacing rings, that would have been stitched over & served to reinforce the lacing holes (but they weren't ubiquitous- most people just relied on the strength of their stitching... & people _not_ being absolute wallies & yanking on something they had no need to: why do people act like tight-lacing was not only occurring earlier than it did, historically- but that pretty much *everyone* from pre-teens to near-grandmas were getting in on it?? It was a limited fad for a handful of people; actresses, models, fashionistas, & socialites- & even then, not _all_ of them) BTW- *love* the real legal aspect you added at the end!
@pmc8451
@pmc8451 5 ай бұрын
Are you seriously suggesting that a Pirates of the Caribbean movie is employing several layers of subtext in regards to historical fashion rather than simply relying on lazy misconceptions and stereotypes?
@kampinak
@kampinak 10 ай бұрын
Im actually glad she pointed out the fact that in the first Pirates movie when Elizabeth is threatening that she will drop the gold it makes no sense for the pirates to be worried about it since they can just go and grab it xD
@timbacon7349
@timbacon7349 10 ай бұрын
They should have her do more of these too. I’d like to see what she’d think of ‘Black Sails’. Probably my favorite show of all time.
@roguetaco5487
@roguetaco5487 10 ай бұрын
OMG thank you for the comment about the corsets! As a fan of historical costumes and follower of that world on YT, I appreciate the comment.
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747
@parkerbrown-nesbit1747 10 ай бұрын
As a wearer of stays (the proper 18th Century term), so did I.
@makeda6530
@makeda6530 10 ай бұрын
I was giddy to when she said that. Found my people~ 😌
@Delaney-and-the-Starlight
@Delaney-and-the-Starlight 10 ай бұрын
I don’t know how you said “obviously pigs aren’t native to the Caribbean…” with a straight face while staring down a muppet 🤣
@kristinvandermeer3025
@kristinvandermeer3025 10 ай бұрын
I loved pirate stories as a kid. Real or fantasy! I was obsessed with Pirates of the Caribbean at about age 8.
@KittTheHistorian
@KittTheHistorian 10 ай бұрын
Shame you didn't pick the 1934 Treasure Island version - the fighting from Captain Smollett is LEGENDARY! The actor who portrayed him was a WWI vet, who went on to train recruits in combat, and you can really tell from the few swordfighting scenes he has that he knows what he's doing.
@EmmaEquinox
@EmmaEquinox 10 ай бұрын
I really want a part two with this person, and I wanna know their thoughts on Our Flag Means Death
@widgren87
@widgren87 10 ай бұрын
If they ever do a second Pirate episode I hope they cover the 1990 version of Treasure Island starring Charlton Heston and Christian Bale.
@crazyredwood1488
@crazyredwood1488 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely fascinating. I always learn something from these videos, and I feel like I learned a lot more than I bargained for from Iszi Lawrence. Would love to see them review more pirate films and shows!
@juliadandy6019
@juliadandy6019 10 ай бұрын
What a delight of a video! It is so great to see passionate people talk about what they know and like!
@danielallen3454
@danielallen3454 10 ай бұрын
One of the reasons why they might've built the stockade on Treasure Island where they did, is because there's a good supply of clean water in that area. There's a small pool of it fed by a spring. So, they may have built it there for that reason alone.
@UsagiOhkami
@UsagiOhkami 10 ай бұрын
I want Iszi Lawrence's take on Izzy Hands and all the other gents from Our Flag Means Death. They already mentioned the real life Stede Bonnet. More, please.
@beludrugueri7776
@beludrugueri7776 4 ай бұрын
YES PLEASEEE!!!
@EyeKahnography
@EyeKahnography 10 ай бұрын
It's a joy to watch someone like Iszi love what they do and get excited about the details that are right but have fun with the wones that are inaccurate. That was a delightful damn half hour. Thank you ^_^
@fuselpeter5393
@fuselpeter5393 7 ай бұрын
19:40 "They did like to kill whoever they liked to." - Iszi smiles full of joy. xD
@MKei-nr5tl
@MKei-nr5tl 10 ай бұрын
No, the Black Pearl depicted here is not equivalent to a British warship. It's equivalent to a Dutch pinnace (not to be confused with a small English pinnace). Having crewed aboard a Dutch pinnace, I have marched around a capstan, but we raised our anchors with the windlass, not the capstan. Took 8-12 men to raise, not 300. The anchor for a ship the size of the Black Pearl is only 900 pounds. It's breaking it loose that's difficult.
@SimonAshworthWood
@SimonAshworthWood 10 ай бұрын
If it takes 8-12 men to raise your pinnace, then you’re not very gay. 🤡 If it takes 300 men? Not gay at all, I guess.
@sarahr8311
@sarahr8311 10 ай бұрын
6:10 I appreciate that they felt the need to point out that undead pirates aren't accurate😂
@ATVOffroadFurry
@ATVOffroadFurry 10 ай бұрын
that was awesome! PLEASE Do more with Izzy!
@TLB7476
@TLB7476 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see this done with shows like Black Sails, where they had more time to tell in depth stories about the day to day life... Or Peter Pan and Hook!
@susanboon4605
@susanboon4605 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely delightful, but also quite informative. I will look for other things featuring Iszi Lawrence!
@paramitch
@paramitch 10 ай бұрын
I love everything about this. Iszi is so knowledgeable, and is also incredibly witty, entertaining, and enthusiastic. And that reaction to the entrance of Miss Piggy was just the icing on the cake. I will now go watch everything Iszi has ever commented on! Arrrghghg! (Also, I so wish she could have taken a gander at "Our Flag Means Death," especially as she mentions Stede by name!)
@marie_h1104
@marie_h1104 8 ай бұрын
She is clearly enjoying critiquing the movies, pointing out the accuracies/inaccuracies, and insisting that Miss Piggy is the key to making a movie. Well done!
@MajCyric
@MajCyric 10 ай бұрын
@17:35 That's the bill (rostrum) of a Sawfish.. They mainly skim the bottom of the ocean eating crustaceans on the ocean floor or hiding in the sand (they use that "saw" to dig in the sand).. They will also swim higher up to eat fish (which use their "saw" as a weapon to kill/maim fish with)..
@nevernudemolerat4537
@nevernudemolerat4537 10 ай бұрын
Do Black Sails and Our Flag Means Death next!
@christophwolf663
@christophwolf663 10 ай бұрын
I loved this but I think it’s missing quite a few of the classics, especially Captain Blood, of course. The Sea Hawk could have been fun, Against all Flags. In short: Bring her back for part 2!
@SimonAshworthWood
@SimonAshworthWood 10 ай бұрын
“Bring Her Back For part 2” is my favourite film. Who says sequels are never better than the original movie?
@greeneyedxvampiress
@greeneyedxvampiress 6 ай бұрын
This was so fun to watch! I learned so much, and Iszi made it so interesting!
@Fallingfast09
@Fallingfast09 2 ай бұрын
Her breakdown is so fascinating. I could watch videos like this for days. Just feature her on a monthly basis to talk about pirates!
@pszczolka80
@pszczolka80 10 ай бұрын
Love pirate history, it's so interesting. Would love to see a video on something like the myths and reality of pirates.
@jackson857
@jackson857 10 ай бұрын
1:24 I think all the other guys are wearing the wigs because they've just come from a formal event. The event being Norrington's promotion to Commodore.
@icooper124
@icooper124 8 ай бұрын
“..when he’s an old man and his leg still hasn’t grown back…” Brilliant line. 21:33
@TheBlueberryymuffin
@TheBlueberryymuffin 2 ай бұрын
When she said that I legit forgot humans don’t grow back limbs lol
@constantinvasiliev2065
@constantinvasiliev2065 8 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to listen to a genuine expert fond of their area of expertise
@elimcfly350
@elimcfly350 10 ай бұрын
I've always been a sucker for pirate stuff. This was funny and informative!
@mickisievers6974
@mickisievers6974 10 ай бұрын
Bring her back! Loved every moment!
@MrLilhauughh
@MrLilhauughh 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely LOVE Iszis passion when doing these reviews.
@Pippi-Longstocking
@Pippi-Longstocking 10 ай бұрын
This expert is a delight!!
@tomvandongen8075
@tomvandongen8075 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't expecting to see Iszi on history hit but I'm here for it!
@newlexican
@newlexican 10 ай бұрын
If only everyone could have the passion for their work that Iszi has...
@Sheckla41
@Sheckla41 3 ай бұрын
I could listen to Iszi talk literally forever
@shabbyshanks
@shabbyshanks 10 ай бұрын
It was definitely fun to watch and I enjoyed her funny commentary a lot but I gotta question her knowledge of ships after saying that the HMS Victory was a similar sized ship compared to the Black Pearl :D
@jordanm563
@jordanm563 9 ай бұрын
Bingo. I overall really enjoyed her commentary but saying the Black Pearl is similar in size to the HMS Victory is like saying Venus is roughly the same size as Jupiter. They're not even remotely in the same class or scale.
@johnslaughter5475
@johnslaughter5475 10 ай бұрын
Not bad, but she missed one huge inaccuracy in Treasure Island. This took place long before the invention of smokeless gunpowder. That cabin would have been full of smoke and visibility would have been near zero.
@polaris30000
@polaris30000 8 ай бұрын
We need so many more videos with Iszi. She knows her stuff and is so delectably sassy!
@Pippis78
@Pippis78 10 ай бұрын
A very enjoyable watch and an entertaining and fun expert!
@FruityGroovy
@FruityGroovy 10 ай бұрын
I mean, there is a reason to be concerned about Elizabeth dropping the medallion into the ocean despite the pirates being able to survive the depths of the ocean. There's many factors, such as ocean current, how far the medallion actually travels away from the ship, how deep the ocean at that point is, how will the pirates get back up to the ship, how far from land would they be. It would essentially require a bunch of men to search miles of ocean floor to find one medallion, figuring out the logistics of getting it back to the rest of the crew, and it would basically be a huge hassle. It's much simpler to keep it on the boat rather than in the ocean.
@madestmadhatter
@madestmadhatter 10 ай бұрын
I've dropped things in the shallows before, not even knee deep, it is surprisingly difficult to find things in the ocean. Long Jhon wasn't a captain, he was high ranking, but it seemed like he kept himself unknown, even amongst the crew, until the captain died, and he tried to take control. At which point he did not start sailing as a pirate but began hunting for the map to Treasure Island.
@kate2create738
@kate2create738 10 ай бұрын
Certainly enjoyed Iszi’s take on these films, she was great informing the little details that most people miss yet gracefully give pointers of times she thought certain details could have been improved. She understands these films are mainly got entertainment while sharing her passion of the piracy era. I’m now jealous that is her field of expertise, what a fun and interesting period and culture to study.
@michaelrussell2891
@michaelrussell2891 10 ай бұрын
could not have picked a better presenter amazing
@Giondi
@Giondi 10 ай бұрын
Barbosa and his crew didn't hurt Elizabeth because they needed her (or thought they did at that point in the movie), her threat to drop the medallion had nothing to do with it. She "negotiated" with them to get them to do exactly what they were already planning to do. They let her think she won to make the voyage easier on themselves.
@elsbet1656
@elsbet1656 10 ай бұрын
"Because everybody forgets they have a gun" 🤣💀
@grumpyparrotphotography
@grumpyparrotphotography 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you for this. 😊
@maraferaventi2984
@maraferaventi2984 10 ай бұрын
wow, really fun video! I would love to see Iszis' reaction to Black Sails!
@breezus3928
@breezus3928 10 ай бұрын
Iszi is hilarious and I learned a lot! Adding to the cries to have her back to review Black Sails.
@newgabe09
@newgabe09 10 ай бұрын
Thisis terrific! Love this woman and her respect for muppets :)
@hijklmnop42
@hijklmnop42 7 ай бұрын
The final 4 minutes of this video are such a good primer on why people became pirates!
@erikaduplessis5149
@erikaduplessis5149 9 ай бұрын
Love her energy and descriptions!
@rosemartasgaminghoard
@rosemartasgaminghoard 10 ай бұрын
Long John Silver wasn't Captain. He was Captain Flints Boson, his right hand man and quarter master.
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