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@nicolascharron11862 жыл бұрын
This game really meet the #1 rule of warhammer : 'have fun' 👍👍
@jonathankelly42222 жыл бұрын
Steve! Loving the look of new loaded die. They look fantastic! So glad to see our membership money going to a good place!
@katchy68812 жыл бұрын
Only 2 minutes in, can't wait to see Steve's dice rolls carry him to victory : ^)
@tyrannosaurus6962 жыл бұрын
Great opponent, had a smile on his face despite things not going his way! Thanks for the upload.
@Tymachos2 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve. The leadership of your chariot was only modified by -1 not by -6. Although you lost that combat by 6 your leadership would have been only modified by the overall combat resolution, which was -1 (Rulebook p. 66 "...no unit on the losing side will suffer a negative modifier greater than the overall loss of their side, even if that unit itself might have a much lower combat resolution score than the units they are in base contact with."). But well, you passed your reroll, so it didn't matter for the game. :)
@bja50062 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me who makes the buildings on Steve's left? The crazy savage camp stuff?
@MinSredMash2 жыл бұрын
Dark elf player threw away all his shooting on a huge tanky unit that never even saw combat. Not shooting the gorgon was suicide!
@Kloerb2 жыл бұрын
Can we get those three into Triumph & Treachery?
@Rhaenday2 жыл бұрын
I second that, the amused-salt would be amazing
@lorenzofiori27102 жыл бұрын
Wow guys, I cannot keep up with all these battle reps! I think WAP fixed the craziness of the Beastmen Ambush rule and made it viable. Knowing this, extra caution is needed when playing against them: Avoid leaving too much space for them to enter behind/between your lines if using a waiting tactic/slow armies; Deploy as forward as possible and march ahead first turn if playing offensive/fast armies. Also, the spell to summon a monster got hugely improved and totally deserves a Destroy Magic Scroll ;) Overall, happy to see Beastmen are usable again (together with Tomb Kings)!
@jonathankelly42222 жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised that deploying models in your opponents back line after the game has started would be strong. Really surprised.
@tomdudley53142 жыл бұрын
Great Br and fantastic looking minis and terrain cant wait for more! For the DE's wondering if it would be better to split your city guard units into 2x 10 xbows and 1x 20 spears? Or maybe 1 unit of city guard with some dark riders/shades. Might give you better board control and allow greater freedom with your spearmen to tackle or hold targets. Just seems 2 units of city guard limit your tactical options.
@Gnalistair2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the return of frog Steve Bring back the Lizard-folk!
@dukearioch84322 жыл бұрын
Very minor thing, in WAP I don't believe you can be deeper than you are wide with your rank and file. It looked like Steve might have had 3 stragglers on his gor block.
@Mahrac1262 жыл бұрын
30 strong, 33 with characters, six wide. So it's five ranks deep with an extra three in the last back.
@bryanquick33492 жыл бұрын
i feel like whoever wrote this rulesset really loved beastmen and made them incredibly strong also, i appreciate how cordial this battle report is, it's so easy in a game of tactical, unit-based combat where the game is slow until one army fails catastrophically and loses all their stuff in a single turn for one player to leave the table in a terrible mood, but this is a great example of two players who are happy to play and don't get upset about the outcome as much.
@CatWithAHat2HD2 жыл бұрын
Idk... Maybe It's just me being too biased against Beastmen, but to me it looked like the major error was to accept the frontal charge with the City Guard instead of using them to screen against the ambushers. The Black Guard got jabaited by the Jaberslythe where it coulda been the job of the cheaper city guard (who also could at least fiered back at the thing while keeping it at bay.) . Afaik that, if the Executionners and Black Guards were deployed front and center, the main engagement coulda gone much better for the elves. Steve would probably have hesitated to charge his big boys in without the support of the Gors, giving the Elves a turn where they would have had the initiative. . Here is how you should deploy that DE army seeing this Beastment list (in my oppinion): Bolt throwers in the middle so they are protected from the overwhelming skirmish advantage of the Beastmen list. Flanked on either side by your elites, who being blenders themselves, are happy enough accepting the charge from the other side's blender units. Further flanked by the City Guard who's job is to pew-pew the enemy skirmishers away, Jabberslyth hunt, and if all goes well, join in the main fight in the end game.
@isakjohansson1122 жыл бұрын
@@CatWithAHat2HD Couldnt agree more! Also I suspect the DE elf list is maybe a touch underwhelming to..? Also, I think one of the reason why the beastmen feel OP is probably because we are used to seing them underperform in 8th.
@CatWithAHat2HD2 жыл бұрын
@@isakjohansson112 The DE list looks like a Dwarf list with no gyrocopter. Is it tournament tier? No. But it has serious punch between those two elite infantry units. The lack of chaff is a sticking point, but I still think the main issue was deployment - it's not like the Beastmen had the tools to punish the "sit back and bait them into charging us" strat the bolt throwers pull you into. It's just that, again, the thing you wanna pull them into isn't the City Gard. . The one big reason not to put the elite front and center is the threat of "free damage" impact hits. But that's aleviated by putting the war machines in the center too. That way they can shoot at the chariots instead of shooting at the largely useless dog darts.
@MrPelopixa Жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Congratulations for the channel. Could you tell me from which Terrain-Producer are the trees you have on you playboard?
@tobiasarvidsson59062 жыл бұрын
I can recomend the 50p medusa for hunting monsters for the dark elves player.
@HankGlamorous2 жыл бұрын
this is the best fantasy channel!
@VaneHartless4732 жыл бұрын
All it took to make ambushers good is a rerolling 2+ and you get to choose the table edge. Oh and you don't have to bring doubles except for core.
@Jimbo8182 жыл бұрын
City guard were from 5th edition not 6th right?
@duncanrskinner2 жыл бұрын
Obstacles are unit strength zero for LOS, but if a unit is in base contact, they get the cover for it. So the bolt thrower shot at about 10 minutes in would have hit. (page 120 of the rulebook, under "obstacles as cover")
@konstantineKein2 жыл бұрын
YEs ! Thank you for the great battle !
@charlesvancouver16052 жыл бұрын
Yes! Loving the WAP content! ❤️
@kiwiroguenz2 жыл бұрын
For an army to play, make a great list, play Cullen (sp?) and swap armies. see if you miscast and misfire with his Skaven
@breezabreeze59432 жыл бұрын
So many vids I can’t keep up! Seriously good!!
@orkusdorkusmaximus2 жыл бұрын
It's great to watch Steve make up rules as the game goes on.
@Watcher-in-the-Dark2 жыл бұрын
Like what rules?
@orkusdorkusmaximus2 жыл бұрын
@@Watcher-in-the-Dark it was teasing's Steve
@daddypudding90742 жыл бұрын
It's my baby goat bois! My first ever proper fantasy army!
@thewhisperheads2343 Жыл бұрын
Great looking game! Anyone know where that game mat is from? Cheers!
@MinSredMash2 жыл бұрын
Too many videos! I can't keep up! Good problem to have!
@6St6Jimmy62 жыл бұрын
32:50 Chariot lost the combat only by 1. If the 6 would be lower, you would use that instead, but 6 isn't lower than 1.
@mrgabest2 жыл бұрын
The DE list isn't great, but he was forced to deploy with no flanks to speak of. Didn't really have a chance.
@pauljohnson83022 жыл бұрын
Yep, a nice guy but uninspiring list ... just sitting there & relying on unit abilities, with no real movement of interest.
@oukt2372 жыл бұрын
Thanks:) Very cool army choices!
@smokytopboomboom2 жыл бұрын
That s project did the impossible. Made Beastmen good
@ManoosTheDuelist2 жыл бұрын
They made pretty all the armies competitive. WAP it's all about balance and fun!
@dylanfitzpatrick94232 жыл бұрын
doombolt is 2d6 strength 5 hits on a 12+ not 1d6?
@albertotalassano55402 жыл бұрын
well done guys, Is it 9 th edition ? please don't stop to play
@stethespaniard22 жыл бұрын
Change the rules for beasts without handlers. Why are warhounds in neat ranks and do complicated manoeuvres? They should just compulsory move toward the closest enemy. Only undead dire wolves should be controllable as they’re dead and controlled by the general
@stethespaniard22 жыл бұрын
Why do you count saved wounds in combat res? That’s like counting food you didn’t eat in a calorie count
@nicolascharron11862 жыл бұрын
It's the rule for regen. You can have a ward save and a regen but regen still count in the resolution
@stethespaniard22 жыл бұрын
@@nicolascharron1186 it doesn’t really make sense
@reecemccullough4829 Жыл бұрын
Thx
@sinner14342 жыл бұрын
Is this the same Dark Elf list as last time?
@FootofPork2 жыл бұрын
For the algorithm
@hellentomazin6488 Жыл бұрын
How many points is this?
@joseluki2 жыл бұрын
Worst army vs best army, bet who wins
@konstantineKein2 жыл бұрын
Guys Is that8.5 edition?
@ManoosTheDuelist2 жыл бұрын
Warhammer Armies Project
@ManoosTheDuelist2 жыл бұрын
I have to be honest guys, the deployment phase is too important, deploying like that is already a defeat. Not to mention that poor DE list 😭 (Obviously the Druchii player is forgiven because it's one of his first WAP games)
@charlesvancouver16052 жыл бұрын
This DE list is definitely too slow, fast cav is essential in WAP and it is impossible to leave the Warlocks out of a competitive list
@ManoosTheDuelist2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesvancouver1605 Yes indeed. I also have to give credit to Steve because, in my opinion, this is the best way to play Beastmen in WAP. Strong and complicated list to deal with. (I also think that multi small units of Darkshards and Dark Riders are the best core choices for a competitive DE list)
@bryanquick33492 жыл бұрын
i always hated the whf scenarios that had random deployment, losing in the deployment phase because of dice rolls always felt garbage. honestly don't understand why those kinds of rules would be preserved in a re-written rules set.
@toddantoine80852 жыл бұрын
I was able to learn ALOT from those 2 games that day. What I had done, was think that the units from 8e WHFB were still just as strong, but I learned from these games that the way to play the DE really is to use speed. I have another list that I have been working on for my next visit to Mountain Miniatures that will look drastically different. I had a great time, but importantly I learned a lot of valuable information going into future games.
@YohanPlaine2 жыл бұрын
❤Warhammer Fantasy Battles❤
@seanreilly87172 жыл бұрын
Wap wap wap
@logflogger2 жыл бұрын
So Beastmen went from trash in 8th to op in WAP?
@ManoosTheDuelist2 жыл бұрын
No
@ImeLevitating2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm
@Vaeggen2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make fantasy again or are you only doing fan fiction?