Yzerfan here, but the question is what was he thinking when he signed Petry/Holl.

If you want an unbiased take and critique on Yzerman as a GM you won't find it here.

"only so many defensmen can play in a game" then why the hell sign so many crappy Dmen to bad contracts? "Wallman was a 3rd line defender at best on a team".... using that logic he's at least worth something then, dude played hardest minutes second to only Seider. Even Elliot Friedman said I bet all the other teams in the league were like why werent we in on that deal. If this was a cash dump and with no requisite big move coming after, then thats a BAD piece of business on SY part. For a GM in the start of year 6 of a rebuild its hard not to see how this is poor asset management.

The guy scored 12 goals and we had to give a sweetener? Couldn't Yzerman have just waived him? Couldn't they have kept Andrew Gibson and just waived Walman? If Goodrow got claimed, I have to think Walman would have been.

Yall think Steve just called em up and offered a 2 right away😂 they prolly discussed for awhile and no one was buyers for walman unless it had good compensation. Like u think dude just does things without thinking.

So is Yzerman just piece-mealing this thing? Still a bunch of moves to make if you want Stamkos, Perron, Ghost, Raymond & Seider.

Petry and holl need to go. Let these kids play.

I still feel like walman had value. Your trying to tell me that you couldn’t have gotten something back for walman? If anything I feel that the 2nd should have came back to us

“Nobody wants those guys” that’s what the second round pick is for. Did somebody want Walman? Because we didn’t get anything for him.

I believe that other teams don't want these defense men, but if they are so worthless, why did we sign them in the 1st place? I believe Yzerman is a good GM, but to not admit he has signed some very questionable free agents and extensions is ridiculous.

Future considerations better be something significant

Let’s be realistic OK? We have a lot of young defenseman coming up, and a lot of old bad defenseman worth nothing. Walman was actually worth something, although very little, but his three-point 4 million against the cap was worth more than he was, period

My question is what happened between 2/28/23 and now? A year ago was worth extending.

Common guys Yzerman has always done what is best for his team as a player, you don't think he will be the same way as a GM??? People always have to criticize someone. 😂 Watch he will pick up a really good free agent then he will be a genius for getting rid of Walman. The guy wasn't even in the line up at the end of the season when we were battling for a playoff spot and he is one of our best guys??? Common people 😂

It's like each guy has to hold Yzerman's balls while they talk! It's ok to admit that Yzerman has made some questionable decisions on free agents. Walman has value that you don't pay someone to take! He had the 2nd hardest minutes for a defenseman last year, number one was Seider. He's good in transition and has offensive upside! He scored 10 goals last year.

Im sorry, im trusting the Yzerplan less and less. Whether or not he was in Yzerman's plan or if he was a fan favorite, it was just pure bad asset management. Why do you have to pay to take Walman's contract? Waive him, what was the urgency for the trade unless they r making a move before free agency. Walman was a top 4 d man on this roster for sure, why did this have to be a move to free up a roster spot. Either trade Holl or buyout wouldve been a better option, imo.

Way to not even address the issue...hahaha The reason this is a big deal.. is because SY didn't put him on waviers first Nobody claims him on waivers than nobody cares. But REALITY... someone probably claims him in WAIVERS So WTH just happened?

Dude was a first line defenseman with the proper supporting cast. This was a sweetheart deal we will never be privy too.

For the fans asking about waiving walman .... he would of never got picked up! Yzerman had to send a prospect and a pick to get rid of his contract! You all want kane.. stamkos but are oblivious to salary cap and havin to sign two of biggest players by next july thats going to cost 7 -10 million per plsyer.

You’re not really going to get an unbiased take from these two. I’m not upset at trading Jake Walman. I’m upset at the poor asset management by yzerman. Why did we not try and put him on waivers? Does this panic trade take place to clear cap if you don’t sign Holl and copp and trade for Petry? I’m not saying to destroy yzerman, but he’s certainly open for criticism. With our current knowledge there is no logical reason to have to give up a second to dump an average player with a perfectly reasonable cap hit

We all love Yzerman, I need to see the deal that comes after this. But why not put Walman on waivers, I highly doubt that they need the cap space so soon for another deal. I think fans are pleading for Yzerman to stop signing players to long term deals who u guys are saying “nobody wants”, because it results in losses like Walman. We gotta criticize Yzerman a little bit about bad deals

Horrible asset management. If you're gonna attach picks, it better be to get rid of holl/petry. This makes zero sense.

There was something more to the Walman trade than Yzerman cooking up a plan or cap dumping. Yzerman signed the man to a good 3 year deal. They liked his play and considered him a good fit. Then something happened. The one thing we all know happened is the 'Griddy' celly. Yzerman probably hates that. There are also other things we do not know about. It could be fighting with the coach. It could be fighting with teammates. It could be fighting with Yzerman himself. Yzerman's move is reminiscent of Russia. 'If you do me wrong or treat me wrong I will send you to Siberia'. Well, Jake Walman just got sent to Siberia. We will never know the true reason he fell out of favor so bad with this team / Yzerman. It is what it is now. But Steve Yzerman did just send a message to everyone else on that team. If you cross him or the team, to Siberia you will go.

Kane Stamkos DeBrincat 2nd line 🤯

So how long do we give him? We are right about 5 years with only minor improvements. Just bad enough.

Just dum. Will McCarty EVER question Yzerman or is just THAT happy for the rings?

"we dont want them" then why did we get them???

Holy shit these guys are embarsssing lmao green shirt guy names a player we don’t even have (Donaldson) ...another says wallinder is ready and a blue shirt ham thinks he’s right about anything he says cause he raises his voice like a fool😂

Edvinsson and Johansson at a minimum HAVE to be on the Wings next year. Johansson isn’t waiver eligible anymore. Neil and D-Mac are right…you need to clear space. I would bet a Holl buyout is coming as well. Petry only has a year left, it’s not worth dumping him, and Chairot is at least serviceable if you deploy him correctly. There could be a bigger move coming, but I’d bet more on the rumored Gibson / Zegras trade than on Leon or Marner. Still…I wouldn’t rule out Leon or Marner. They only have a year left on their contracts, so…Edmonton/Toronto wouldn’t get full trade value without an extension in place.

Trading Walman could be multi-purpose. Dumping salary, secret “future considerations,” and sending a message to young players on this team (no fking playing video games in season anymore).

Nobody wants the players Stevie gave too much cap and term to isn’t the flex y’all think it is. Yzerman isn’t doing so great with Stamkos and Hedman as his starting blocks.

This is all sound and fury but it isn't a very good take on the situation. The issue isn't that woman was traded. It's hard to see where he had an open spot to play this season so it makes sense to have him traded. What does it make sense is giving them a second round pick?. You don't give assets in addition to a legit NHL defenseman on a good contract. So in isolation this was not a good move. However, I am of the opinion that Stevie is not done dealing with San Jose and this" future considerations" might turn into something big. That's the only way the second round pick makes sense. Anyways, how did this host and DMACC cropping on fans for having very legitimate concerns about a trade is pretty dumb. Either way the next week will be interesting.

Dmac mustve been high in this video

Yzerman has poor assets management. Trading a young D-man for an unknown forward and a 2nd round pick then flipping the 2nd and Walman for nothing is head scratching.

So you need to trade Walman to free up a roster spot but you also have Chiarot, Holl, Maatta and Petry

You guys are naive. People are just disappointed that it wasn't them, knowing full well that no one wants them. However Yzerman is foolish for trade due to other teams saying they would've given us a pick/something. It doesn't matter what Yzermans next move is, he didn't capitalize on this trade and should be questioned about it. Quit being homers

McCarty will never disagree with anything stevie does

The problem with the Red wings D currently is that there are too many 3rd pair D.

This is the fanbase that questioned Verlander.....Stafford......Bunch of sideline punks.

I don’t feel there takes are biased. They speak the truth no one wants any of these D men you’re bringing up. Yzerman said he signed hall then petry became available hence hall was signed and petry became available and he signed him he’s a upgrade if you can call it that from hall they all are unwanted players by other teams. I enjoyed walman I wish him luck in San Jose. It freed up cap which we needed but what was touched on at the end was kinda obvious to me is that edvisson played himself past walman on the depth chart and is most likely on the 2nd pair next yr to start at least. Cap space and spot where they feel edvisson earned. What wings do here on out who knows it’s not like we are a sure bet to even make playoffs next season. If Kane goes well that’s how the hockey world works if they bring in someone to replace him hard to say who or if. I’m still on the level that this is still a fringe wildcard team for next season. They are not to the next level. They will be once the kids mature and grow but you have to have spots for them on the team to take that next step. We all loved walman charismatic personality but edvisson outplayed him and earned his spot no matter what or who yzerman brings in or doesn’t. Free agent is most likely only way they bring anyone new in they don’t have players they would trade that other teams want. D mac it’s 4:20 my man enjoy

They are acting like Walman was trash. He was our top D-man. Wasn’t just the gritty. How many shots did this guy block? Did everybody forget that? He was playing almost 20 minutes a night against the opposing teams. Top forwards. San Jose states he’s their best defenseman now. I love Stevie, but this was a bad trade. Sorry, unless there’s some thing behind-the-scenes, we don’t know, this is a definite L.

Walmart was a pretty sound 2 way defender that we could've gotten picks for. This was a mismanagement of assets. Yes I agree with moving him, but to have to attach a pick to a guy that could've gotten picks is absurd. A holl buyout would've been better

Holl and Chiarot 2 more years and Mattaa and Petry 1 more year, we don't have a D on the books for over 2 years, there all gone soon

I love when darren gets pissed and goes off as the videos go off 😂😂 “fuckin idiot…” 😂

All the doomsday casuals in here make me laugh. Sure, the Holl signing wasnt great, but okay that was a depth signing mistake. This trade is incomplete and is yet to be finalized. Its alarming how many people cant pick up on that. Draft day trades are set up in advance by good GMs. Cant wait for everyone to change their tune once we're perennial cup contenders. Steady improvement year to year under Yzerman and people still want to only focus on the few mistakes he's made. Thank god these casuals arent in charge, we'd be in serious trouble.

The future considerations are coming at the Draft. The Sharks have pick #14.

I told Jake not to do that stupid dance

Wish this came out yesterday...would of saved me from listening to all the other wing podcast GM a team, with the word vacuum be used a billion times. Keep up the good work. #19/19

I love all the armchair commenters who think they have any clue whats going on. Stevie has been in this league since '83 and knows EVERYONE and EVERYTHING about it. Either you trust the Yzerplan, or you don't. l'm amazed at the gall of people who know diddly squat about anything. Hahahaha

Lol obviously anyone would trade asp for leon come on i love asp but yes id trade him for leon in a heartbeat

The Yzerplan is a joke. Best 24 signing: Someone who was here last year. Wait... paid to lose Walman. Best upgrade Trouba? We suck again!!!!

this is about giving up on Gibson too soon after big year and promotion? How good of a prospect is the 18 year old? what are the future considerations?. walman was just ok imo. are draft depth is on the defense side and some are ready this season. keep moving the vets out Stevie and try and get the #1 centerman we need to compliment Larkin.

But yeah obviously we arent getting leon ppl come on

Walkman stunk in the second half of the season. He was not that great as many of you are making him out to be. He coughed the puck up often and got beat often.

Lets be real people, the hope is they'll take Copp. Even if we retain some of Copps contract, he's not even an NHL caliber player at this point in his career. It was obvious just before the trade deadline that the Copp being on our team would cost us the playoffs. If you payed attention Yzerman started getting ready for this move right then and there when he gave San Jose Kostin. Thats what reading the locker room the speech was about. Hes moving on from the University of Michigan theme he tried to build an identity around. Missing on the Kasper pick is definitely forcing his hand into tighter cap issues. He needs to sign a real Center to pair with Larkin. The problem has never been the Defense or goalies. Its Copp's play in all 3 zones. Giving up Walman makes sense if you're trying to keep Berrgren.

Petry, Copp or Holl should have been traded. Once again Yzerman should not be allowed to handle free agency.

Did no one watch the Final? All Leon and Connor for that matter are, are one-dimensional players. They are nothing special at all. We need two-way players who will pound you to the ice and back-check like crazy. Defense wins championships. Florida proved that. We have enough skill/talent and don't need more players like them. Would I have traded numbers 8, 3 or 46? Sure. But I understand why not.

Hey guys

We...the redwings...are one of the easiest teams to play against. Our def. has been soft. It takes a period of time to change...to grab a Tanev or Hanifan

This is easily the most reasonable response to this trade.

Honestly, y’all are like watching the View!

Again.. Talk about something good and not obvious

What are we doing? Yzerman seat just got hotter

This whole show is hilarious. "It's for a spot!!, he was a 3rd pair dman!!" In reaction Gms literally said they'd have done it without the sweetner but didn't get a call. Also spot for who? Maatta was easily movable in the last year of his deal and cost way less than a 2nd. Want to rid the team of the cap and spot, waive him instead of giving up an asset. Unless there is something bigger, it's a shit move. Also the wings will have Mo, Chiarot, edvinsson, Johansson, and Hollif he isn't bought out under contract next year so again... spots for who? Kids that aren't ready? Mkay. Edmonton also isn't losing Draisaitl for free at the end of the year, he's getting moved. Not here though because why would he? I love Yzerman but unless there is something bigger that actually improves the team, beyond poor asset management.

IF NO ONE WANTS THE CASTOFFS THEN BUY THEM OUT OR RETAIN

This past year has made me disappointed with Detroit sports fans.. We are novice fans at best in all 4 sports.

What a crappy segment! NOBODY is talking about the ridiculousness of GIVING Walman and a 2nd round pick for NOTHING (future considerations). Why didn’t they just put him on waivers? They’re dancing around the obvious and talking about Draisital. NONE of them will question Yzerman and his idiotic moves. What a weak sports town we have.

Wallman has value that's why he was traded, making line up room for our prospects coming up, plus cap space for the future. You cant trade something nobody wants

That's rich coming from Darren talking about grade school, when the guy clearly didn't graduate from grade school 😂😅. How in the hell can people watch this on yt or listen on the radio, when they make fun of ppl, and especially Darren (the mutant) making jokes about how dumb you are every time a fan answers there question off the yt feed..

I wish he was on our third pair for a cheaper deal. But oh well maybe Stevie is cooking a big Leon trade or Roy

Nobody is upset it’s Walkman we’re upset we GAVE him away for free people he had 11 goals learn asset management cause this was trash

Good riddance, Have fun playing Fortnite in Cali. He can become a KZfaqr/influencer now

Raymond, Edvinsson, Kasper, and multiple 1st round picks to get Draisatle. It's insanity.

Glad Walman is gone. He is a 3rd line defenseman on a good team. He is also very injury prone and we can't deal with that. Especially since we don't have any good defense men besides Seider and Edvinsson. Gibson will most likely be a second line defense men in the future but we have a lot of D prospects that are closer than him so losing him doesn't hurt.

Here comes McCartys incoherent ramblings about Yzerman genius.

hasnt made room for shit.

WHO THE FUCK IS DONALDSSON?

And and 2 yrs too late

draisaitl is not as good as everyone thinks, not saying he is shit but watch what he does without mcdavid. he didnt score the last what 8 games