Pens fan here. I love Crosby, and I don't think our teams gonna have much sudden success. He can absolutely go somewhere else and no one here would burn a jersey or anything. He is a champion of this city and can do no wrong.

I always thought Quick would be a King for life, but then he was traded. Same with Stamkos and the Lightning. So, I can't honestly say any particular player will stay with their team for their entire careers anymore.

Crosby isn't a veteran looking for his first championship. He's literally done it all when it comes to hockey. He's got a house in Pittsburgh, friends, family. He's built a life in Pitt and I think it just comes down to him wanting to stay there. Also, Chris Kunitz had 4 Stanley Cups in the salary cap era. Which is one more than 3.

"Kyle Dubas doesn't have a plan." Call me shocked.

I love Toronto logic. In spite of acknowledging that the Pens have a large fanbase and a five championships in the last 30 years, players should not want to play there. Yet Toronto fans will also tell you that players should naturally want to come to the Leafs, in spite of it being a notorious pressure cooker and no championships in the last 50 years.

"Kyle doesnt do anything bold"... Erik Karlsson. Just one of many things wrong with this clip.

I never thought Patrick Kane would play anywhere but Chicago and now he's with Detroit and as a Wings fan I'm happy as hell he's on the team but it still feels weird seeing him in the Winged Wheel instead of in Hawks gear.

Crosby is a Canadian from Nova Scotia - he was born never to complain.

Penguins fan here: Would it surprise us if Crosby goes elsewhere at the end? No. But it would hurt like hell

I love people keep thinking they're done. There's absolutely still a chance for this group. Sid's staying and he still has a chance at 4.

He's got a choice - he can finish his career there and help out some of the kids, or he can go for another Stanley Cup. In my view, if he really wants to help the Penguins organization, he'd ask for a trade to a contender so that he can get a shot at a final Cup AND Pittsburgh can get some assets for him to help with the rebuild. Sure, it's cute when a player wants to play their entire career in one place, but when they'd be really helping their franchise (and I'm not a penguins fan) if they let themselves be traded to another team, obviously to a team that has a chance to win. That way everyone's happy. Martin St. Louis was trade to the Rangers, but while he never won a Cup there, the Bolts got a 1st, a 2nd and their future captain Ryan Callahan. As a fan of the Canucks, I would have liked to have seen the Sedins move on to a contender and won a Cup elsewhere while we got a few draft picks in return. The Sedins deserved a Cup ring, and it would have been nice to get more assets. I still hope for the best for Bo Horvat. At this point, everyone is leaving the team that drafted them for more money, so I don't hold grudges anymore. If I did that, I'd have to stop watching hockey altogether.

As a Washington Capitals fan, he had better finish it in Pitt. We need to see this story arc through. If he ever gets traded or signed by someone else, I will personally see to it that that organization burns.

I’m a long long time penguin fan since about 1970. Been very fortunate to see five Stanley Cups in my lifetime. The current rendition of the Penguins with or without Crosby isn’t very good. While I would love to see him stay here his entire career I think that it would be best for the team and for Sid to move on.

0:17 To be fair to Dubas he traded a third for Reilly smith and then after Smith sucked and his value plummeted, he retained 1.25 in a trade that got back a second and conditional fifth when they had plenty of cap space to work with. That’s an okay acquisition followed by a better exit trade

I think him staying with the Penguins is what matters the most to him, if I had to guess.

Payton manning walked away from the field with a trophy in hand, and there's a non-zero chance landeskog is about to do the same

Ovechkin and his 13 year, $124 million deal

Sid will never be seen in an NHL jersey other than a Penguins jersey. Ever.

Zetterberg LTIRetired Datsyuk retired early and his rights were traded to AZ where he never played.

To be fair, Dubas is in a tough spot. They dhould be rebuilding but he cant do that with Malkin and Crosby still in the mix.They are in no man's land. Not bad enough to draft high and not good enough to make the playoffs. All thhe years of trading picks to make cup runs has left the cupboards bare.

Does anyone know, when the Amazon Prime NHL, like NFL Hard Knocks is airing? Or know the name of the show, so I can Google it.

As a Penguins fan going to games starting in 1967 I hope Sid retires a Penguin. If Canada can get a goalie, he is sure to win two more World championships regardless of his NHL team. Should he decide he wants to leave Pittsburgh to chase more SC's, I will be disappointed, but not hate on that so long as he gets traded vice just walking away next year for nothing. If he chooses to leave Pens it seems out of character IMO for him though as he would be abandoning Geno and Letang who he lobbied behind the scenes for Pens to retain. Most notably Malkin over Vince Trocheck who is a yinzer, younger and cheaper and better at this stage and wanted to sign with Pens at the time.

Yinz fundamentally misunderstand Pittsburghers if you think we don’t value *our guys* retiring as *our guys* above their winning elsewhere… Sid’s one of us. He stays with us.

Caps fan here. What if…Crosby to the Caps?

Toronto has been in the 2nd round once since 2003. I think Matthews should sign with another team.

It was Sid who flew to Florida to convince Malkin to resign the night before free agency. It was Sid who talked with letang. Does anyone really think he would do that and then leave?

Alex devlecchio detroit 24 years he stayed on the team

sign contracts as percentage of salary cap? as cap goes up, salary goes up to the same percentage of cap?

They probably don't know it but they were quoting TS Eliot and his poem 'The Hollow Men.'

For all the folks all in on let's get the rebuid started ASAP, how is that working out for Maple Leaf's after their SC win in 1967? Back then there were only 12 teams. Sabres and Canucks joined the league in 1970. Like Leaf's no cups between them since 1967. NOT bashing on those teams. Just pointing out that that there are no guarantees with a quick build or rebuild. Especially now in a 32 team league that may expand.

They need to do one of these about Ovechkin and the Caps. The record is great and all, but it’s hurting the team imo.

>Mentions Kobe Bryant >"Slow burn out LOL

Crosby in a Habs jersey would be a beautiful thing. And Steve please let Adam and Jesse get a full sentence out before trying to interrupt

Why on earth would Letang and Malkin have to leave to retain Crosby? Theyre both locked in at 6.1M aav How the hell do you guys know so little about non leaf related hockey but somehow have a hockey show?

dubas has got a plan actually it just requires some patience, relax, stop crying because he left the maple syrups lol

Habs will signed Sydney Crosby next summer 3 years and will play with a lot of young talent and will bring a cup to Canada

Zetterberg never went to Arizona. In any form.

I think Shane Doan stayed with his team the whole time. Doan never left his team. YES, he went from Winnipeg to Arizona, but that wasn't the same thing. The whole team was moved so Shane Doan stayed with his team his whole career. So, I'm gonna throw Doan out there on that list, no?

The best thing Pittsburgh can do is sell Malkin and Crosby while they still have value for draft picks. And give them a last run elsewhere

Sydney do the same thing than tavares he go play for is kid dream team Montréal Canadien

I would have no issue if Sid went to the Avs or Montreal. But there are some jerseys I never want him to wear. That being said, he loved Steve Y and lived with Mario. Sid will be resigning with the pens.

Flyers sign him one year 14 million with a new must-trade clause and the team trading for him activates a three-year 8,7 million contract

As a pens fan, the expectation for Crosby and the penguins is playoffs. If they don’t at least get to that bar this year, I expect him to be gone. Dubas needs to make another splash trade this year, Karlsson was great but he doesn’t fit the system, he needs to get a guy that fits the system

I hope he finishes his career with the penguins. When his contract is up I'm sure dubas will give him 11 000 000 a year

I heard Sid’s leaving the NHL completely to play in the 3-on3 MLH. People are saying. Hearing rumblings.

Crosby maybe call Ovechkin about playing with Washington?

They need to trade Malkin, Letang, and Crosby. They probably all have NTCs, but they actually still have value. In a few years they'll all be worthless, and the Pens won't have another cup. All good though if that's what they prefer. They've all had success and are HOFers, so nothing left to prove. They can go out on their own terms and I respect whatever decision each of them comes to. Cheers

it was Datsyuk who had his rights traded to Arizona not Zetterberg. Probably need to research this kind of thing before you do the show.

what did he do before the "golden goal" absolutely nothing! stop putting him on this pedestal that he won us the gold medal!

realistically if we do end up trading crosby, what would his return be? hes still a top 5 player in the league, and no way does dubas let him go for nothing

Rangers sign him please

There are certainly players that went to play elsewhere and had it tarnish their reputation. Gerry Cheevers comes to mind as a big one. A lot of Bruins fans blame him going to the WHA and breaking up the Bruins core as a big part of why they only won 2 cups during the Orr era. Now Boston is weird and doesn't have any goalie numbers retired despite having had some of the best goalies ever. So him not having his number retired isn't a direct display of that. But all of the other meaningful guys from that era have retired numbers. He's a glaring exception and him playing somewhere else is a big part of it.

Pens fans want what is best for our stars. It hurt a bit when Jake left, but we were happy for him. I think many of us are fine with Sid going to CO.

PAT MAROON 3 Time Stanley Cup champ... put some respect on that name

Would love to see him and nate play but the avs can't afford him

Pitt would rebuild much faster with the assets from a Crosby trade

Fascinating topics that were brought up, really. The discussion around a player's "legacy" when it comes to being one of the greats and staying with one team vs leaving is definitely a head-scratcher, because it DOES come up all the time, in every major sport, and I don't know why because essentially ZERO all-time greats in any major sport have ever had a legacy that is talked about as lessened because of leaving their original team, with MAYBE one exception, and that's Lebron James (and even Lebron, the most unfairly hated/criticized athlete in the history of the world, doesn't really get that kind of debate anymore, at least not much or not seriously anymore). So, why do people STILL bring this up all the time, inevitably? It's bizarre.

What money does Colorado have to spend on Crosby? I feel people just picked them for literally no reason.

Oh bull crap, the suggestion Sidney is gonna leave and everybody’s like “think of the Pittsburgh fans” but Stamkos actually leaves Tampa and nobody says anything about the fans for the Lightning.

If he leaves Pittsburgh it’ll be like when Lebron left the Cavs

Absolutely not. He isn’t leaving, and no penguins fan would want him to leave???

What about Daniel and henrik sedin?

Gonna say this first, it'll never happen ever. Wouldn't it be wild to see sid and ovi on the same team for one last run? Even if they dont win the cup, would it have any negative on their career in any way? Im gonna say no, they are generational talents

I would love crosby in denver, but we just signed 3 centers.... so someone has to play wing here

few superstars stay whole career with same team?

lol wishful thinking I’m hearing plus no cap space unless we give them a roster player,prospects maybe a pick/picks ,if it does it would have me gasping….like the time my heart grew 😂🤣

Crosby would look good in Victory Green. Bring him to Dallas

As a Pens fan I was more confused by this show than anything. Like, were rational people even upset by that show? IF Sid wants to leave, great. He's done everything we've ever asked of him and so much more. If Sid wants to stay and keep trying, great. Not gonna hurt my feelings to see him keep giving it his best shot. The correct answer is whatever Sid wants, Sid should get. Without question. My problem is that people seem to be pinning this on Dubas for some reason, like, do you think for a moment that the Penguins organization gives a rats ass about what Dubas thinks if it's at all in conflict with what Sid wants? His lack of a plan may just be because the situation is simply unfixable and a trade is just not possible at this time for whatever reason, and that reason could just be because Sid doesn't want to, or the teams Sid wants to go to can't accommodate and we're just stuck. It's the internet, everyone on here is nuts. But as long as the core is here, the team is going to try to win, even if that is completely unreasonable because the resources simply won't allow it to be the case. As Pens fans, we gotta accept that and just enjoy the sun set. You can get mad at a sun set, but it's happening whether you like it or not. But the tl;dr is, whatever Sid wants, Sid should get. No questions. No arguments. Just do it, and I think pretty much every Pens fan is actually on board with that regardless of what randos on the internet say.

Please play for a team in Canada

Ovechkin's another player to play out a ridiculously long contract

Chris Kunitz has the most cups in the cap era with 4

Marner for Crosby

Did for Mitchy.

And fuckings Ovechkin

Crosby is also SUPER superstitious the 8.7 is for a reason

Retirement

Kyles plan = 🤔 Run it back

Bro 18 minutes talking about a topic that should’ve taken 30 seconds. Y’all need help

Penguin fans SHOULD want him traded, to get the max return & help reshape the Pens for years to come. But being a fan doesn’t work that way. No way any real Penguins fan wants him traded. They rather just ride out the mediocrity, & I don’t think anything is wrong with that.

Crosby is a winner, penguins need to trade him for assets. Win win and he can do one day contract deal to retire a penguin.

Stamkos has one.

Yes, i kinda hope he stays a penguin, just for the feels. Unfortunately, he should go. Let Pittsburgh deal ya and push them into a big headstart to a rebuild. Its the lesser of two evils

I'd love to see a Marner trade for Crosby (50% salary retained by PIT), Roy, and a top 3 round draft pick. Then... sign McDavid in 2025. Then you've got McDavid, Matthews, Crosby, Nylander, and Tavares all on the same team... plus an amazing d-core.

Crosby got only 3 good season left and after he gonna retire

Yes, Sid the Kid should come to TO and try to win a cup... It would be the crown jewel of all his accomplisments... It's bigger then just winning the cup... The players involved with winning the next cup in TO will be immortalized!! LOL

I was happy for Bourque, and I'd be happy for Crosby. These past two decades as a Pens fan have been more than I could have ever hoped for. We did the Kessel Run twice in only 24 parsecs. I think Penguins fans are a lot more supportive of moving him than you think.

The answer to how long will sidney crosby be in a pittsburgh penguins jersey will soon be official.. Till he retires..... Just like he and the pittsburgh organization have said all along end of news.......

You guys are lucky dubas left. That dude freakin blows. He is the definition of failing upwards (Bruins fan)

Red wings fan here. Crosby needs to be traded for the good of the franchise as well as the player. I watched the red wings hold on to mediocrity way past their due. Had holland blown it up in 2012 they would be contenders now. But maybe not drafting is tough. Rebuilding on the fly doesn’t work.

Sid coming to Colorado to play with MacKinnon and Drouin is all but wrapped. Book it.

Drake suck soooooo badddd 😅

Datsuk and zetter stayed In Detroit their entire careers, do not slander these legends. Not so respectfully- red wings fan.

If I was a Pens fan I'd want him traded. He'll never have a chance to win again if he stays and he'll delay their rebuild until he retires

Crosby at 37 is not worth 6+ million

As a pens fan, the expectation for Crosby and the penguins is playoffs. If they don’t at least get to that bar this year, I expect him to be gone. Dubas needs to make another splash trade this year, Karlsson was great but he doesn’t fit the system, he needs to get a guy that fits the system