Hard Drive Clicking Beeping Not Detected. Is data recoverable? Clean room inspection.

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@MasterT1031
@MasterT1031 2 жыл бұрын
No need to transfer the platters. No data recovery lab do that except for a motor fail. Only need to swap head assembly with a good and compatible one. And than use the right tools to fix firmware issues if any and image the drive. Good luck.
@grandprime7397
@grandprime7397 2 жыл бұрын
How to get head Is that universal type
@grandprime7397
@grandprime7397 2 жыл бұрын
@@gblargg any other options, can i use same company's different model head. Need Any similarities in size?
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 2 жыл бұрын
@@grandprime7397 the disks should be completely identical for the best possible chances. some models use identical heads, but that's generally harder to find out for sure, so an identical disk is a common option for us mere mortals...
@ucupi
@ucupi 2 жыл бұрын
not that simple still need pc3000...watch erkin hddrecovery
@TheJazzNL
@TheJazzNL 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Swapping the platters in a multi platter drive has the added risk of misalignment.
@giants78
@giants78 2 жыл бұрын
Hi alex. I'm 15 years engineer (unix System) and I started as an electronic technician. I worked a bit on the hard drives and also on the platter changes. It's ... complicated. The screws will be very strong and there is no room for error. I think, as you know, the heads float above the tray but do not touch it. If I may give you some advice, it is to practice beforehand on other hard disks of the same brand, of the same type. I follow your videos from France, you do a remarkable job.
@nicolasmiladinovic2189
@nicolasmiladinovic2189 2 жыл бұрын
I have a damaged msi 3090 suprim x hdmi port, I'm from France in the Var, very difficult to find reliable micro welding repairers
@magnificentreality100
@magnificentreality100 2 жыл бұрын
Random idiot who tried this on his own can confirm, VERY COMPLICATED and super fragile, one mm off and you get nothing
@cafu6313
@cafu6313 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmiladinovic2189 you still have 3xDPs to use
@retroredrum
@retroredrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmiladinovic2189 si je peux aider, ne pas hésiter à me contacter
@felix158
@felix158 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmiladinovic2189 Dans ma boutique on peut te faire ça. Prévoir un Colissimo. La Boite à Outils à Poitiers.
@danielemalagoli2751
@danielemalagoli2751 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to swap platters, actually it would be a very bad idea. The only reason why is needed to swap platters is when the motor is damaged. Very likely issue here is "faulty heads". When heads are bad, swap theme from donor drive. Further knowledge are needed to find proper head stack donor and of course practice.
@KenShipman
@KenShipman 2 жыл бұрын
Drive recovery work is a career all by itself Alex. You would need a vast inventory of mechanisms to truly be able to fix all drives that came your way. I think that type of work is on the decline with the advent of the SSD.
@CosminCrihan
@CosminCrihan 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I would really like to see a complete data recovery process with platter swapping and / or motor or reading heads replacement. Thank you for everything you teach us!
@ErickBuildsStuff
@ErickBuildsStuff 2 жыл бұрын
Watch HDD recovery services KZfaq channel. He teaches just like Alex
@CosminCrihan
@CosminCrihan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I realized I did watch a couple of those already :)
@Druid_Plow
@Druid_Plow 2 жыл бұрын
Gamers Nexus had a video of a data recovery company tour. They showed some really old drives and much newer ones as well. Was pretty cool seeing how they have a supply of 30-40 year old drives in working condition just to be ready in case someone comes in with really really old stff which apparently happens more often than some may think.
@AliMShipleSYR
@AliMShipleSYR 2 жыл бұрын
HDD header got serial number burned into header, Since new pcb header got deffrent serial it will click, you need pc3000 tool to change header serial or patch the firmware.
@stoyantsalev3109
@stoyantsalev3109 2 жыл бұрын
Before attempting any mechanical parts swap I'd take a close look at the board ( chances are you've done this already :) ) - specifically the contact pads for the head actuator (the other set of pads would be the one for the motor). Any sort of liquid/condensation/oxidation damage would show up there. Some steel brush and IPA (plus a IPA swab on the contacts on the mechanical side) would do the job and in my experience this works way more frequently than it really should...
@petercuello1963
@petercuello1963 2 жыл бұрын
You need PC3000. Most of the time clicking even with a swap you need to check firmware and configuration on the hard drive. Expensive venture but it could pay itself off once you gain the experience in using the tool.
@Dingo89
@Dingo89 2 жыл бұрын
Love watching these videos all the way from AUS. Has given me the confidence to attempt a repair on my Creality Melzi motherboard (albeit, without success. Not complete failure, but it still powers on and does the same as before. Looks like I've got some more investigation to do!). Your "No BS, straight to the point" format is excellent and is thoroughly enjoyable. Keep it up!
@therealswarvey
@therealswarvey 2 жыл бұрын
The melzi boards are pretty bad, few design flaws. I repaired mine several times after FETs catching fire, stepper driver failutes, irreversible damage to the temperature circuits and firmware failure. I ended up just building my own board and linking it to an Arduino mega. What problems does yours have? Which firmware were you running? Maybe I can help?
@higike
@higike 2 жыл бұрын
Reading head replacement is a bit more painless, since all plates have to stay in the exactly same position realative to eachother after the transfer, even a small deviation can cause the data to be unreadable. I have the same issue, first I thought it was something on the board that caused the issue, but after testing with a donor board, I get the same results as you do. so I removed the head mechanism. But didn't find any matching one, and I'm not gonna buy a new one for this reason. + you'll need a head comb for the heads not to touch eachother while transferring it to the faulty drive. This is the least painless solution, but you have to cover yourself if you want to do this. Make sure you make the customers know that there's high possibility that the data could be lost even after doing this.
@jasko.n
@jasko.n 2 жыл бұрын
That's true only a 1 foult. The exactly same position is not important with the right tools, you can read the first one and then the second...and .Ake a reconstruction of data with a virtual controller. Like pc3000.
@Zolga00
@Zolga00 2 жыл бұрын
yes very painless
@ezzeldin101
@ezzeldin101 2 жыл бұрын
The really good thing about you Alex is your honesty with people properties. Big love from Egypt
@Ben79k
@Ben79k 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that data recovery shops swap the Head Set, not the platters, due to it being difficult to get them seated with the correct tolerance. they use plastic clips to prevent the heads from being damaged during the swap, which i assume is a specialty part. Good luck with this endeavor.
@ioannisbalouktsis962
@ioannisbalouktsis962 2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome seeing the process of data recovering in detail. Thanks for the knowledge you offer Alex kind regads
@StarlightStream
@StarlightStream 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the diversity of content on this channel
@Norman_Peterson
@Norman_Peterson 2 жыл бұрын
Should call you " the welding surgeon" Another perfect scalpel job, Doc!
@maverickhornet4057
@maverickhornet4057 2 жыл бұрын
If a dropped hard drive is clicking and it isn't working anymore, it is likely that the platters, arm or hard drive head were damaged and misaligned from the impact. ... If the head is trying to locate data on the platters and cannot find it, the arm will move back and forth across the platters several times.
@repeekyraidcero
@repeekyraidcero 2 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps a headcrash. Which is irrecoverable
@jontait1095
@jontait1095 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.5" can click if it's not receiving enough power try a sata cable that has 2 usb ports and the clicking stops and usually works
@21palica
@21palica 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Alex. Diagnosing the faulty part of the drive when these types of issues occur, is not that easy. Sometimes, a simple manual repositioning of the head is needed, as it can move from it's normal position if the hard drive has been hit or dropped. But, changing the platters, as many other people here have said, is a difficult task, as it takes perfect precision in reassembly. I would first try changing the head motor, then every other possible solution, before I'd go venturing into that territory. But, on the other hand, I would very much like to see you fix this hard drive. So, if all else fails, replacing the platters to a donor hard drive could be the only option left. You certainly have the skills and precision in your work to pull it off. And even if you fail, you learn something new...and also make an interesting video. So it might not be a bad idea to post the videos of you practicing the operation, because I'd watch it! :) Keep up the great work!
@livingwaters7841
@livingwaters7841 7 ай бұрын
Good advice, did not think they could take the platters from one drive and relocate to a good drive
@JLCPCB
@JLCPCB 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for everything you teach us! 😁
@geraldgomes
@geraldgomes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I've seen this problem before. Good to know why it's happening.
@xmarxthebox2133
@xmarxthebox2133 2 жыл бұрын
Do it! Love the mini clean room. Didn't want to devote a entire room at the shop so good alt.
@kintag4459
@kintag4459 2 жыл бұрын
جزاكم الله خير وجعلها الله في ميزان حسناتك
@DJChol
@DJChol 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that you have a large pile of graphics cards and other devices to be fixed, shoulnd't you leave hard drive recovery to someone else? If you additionally offer HDD repair, this leads to another queue of devices...
@JesusChrist-sx1lf
@JesusChrist-sx1lf 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought, the moment the problem wasn't related to a electrical failure/motherboard it should be deemed a no fix. This is a common problem among hard drives and it comes with age, it's called the click of death. The only option is to replace the platter or the reading heads, which is why people specialize in this field cause it's a hassle. Not worth the time for Alex, also considering the stack of items he already has.
@rgodhnia
@rgodhnia 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sharing the information its, I had the same issues. I kept the platter change the partial mechanical assembly and it worked and still working
@sharkskinboy
@sharkskinboy 2 жыл бұрын
Great attitude, don't let a problem beat you, turn it into an opportunity!
@claudiotonelli7709
@claudiotonelli7709 4 ай бұрын
A great thing about you is the honesty... a very rare thing...
@stefanlechner
@stefanlechner 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that could be interesting yes. I would love to see how you get this harddrive fixed. That would be awesome. And yes your need the right tools for that. Thank you for the video. Greets
@codatekalbatek
@codatekalbatek 2 жыл бұрын
The laboratory has a special machine (it is like a CD lector) for reading the plates, it is time for the customer calling one of these laboratory… hello from Italy!
@syedusama1546
@syedusama1546 2 жыл бұрын
Alex it help you and us to learn new things and usage of new tools.
@Dave-ss5pk
@Dave-ss5pk 2 жыл бұрын
When transferring platters you need to keep them perfectly aligned by sticking some tape around the edges of both platters for perfect alignment otherwise it will nott read. Do not move any of the platters out of alignment from the other
@Jason-zh7wo
@Jason-zh7wo 2 жыл бұрын
Practice first, would be great to see you continue the data recovery on this 👍😀
@M0UAW_IO83
@M0UAW_IO83 2 жыл бұрын
It's easier to swap the head stack than the platters, you *really* don't want to remove the platters unless you have some very special equipment or have the sort of luck that wins the lottery twice, especially if there's more than one platter. Click of death usually means the drive can't read either the embedded servo data or the firmware which is written to the platters. Back in the days of MFM/RLL drives it was so much simpler but the flash chip you swapped has more capacity than many of those drives.
@nbrettoner
@nbrettoner 7 ай бұрын
Yes practice away. We like seeing you demonstrate perfection. 😇🥰🤠
@kyalanis
@kyalanis 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.... I always got the clicking broken had, will be interesting to find how to fix it... If I were you I shall practice on the broken had first... Recovery lab trade secrets... Perhaps this is the most valuable video of you successfully showing how it is done... Good luck Alex. Watching your videos from Malaysia
@Equilibrier
@Equilibrier Жыл бұрын
I think you should learn this, and include it in your business; you already do so much stuff and with this also you will round up your data-recovery services very well. And we would also be glad since you may then teach us too in your videos ;).
@calvinmientke3539
@calvinmientke3539 2 жыл бұрын
For the education, I tear everything apart. Yes, try to fix a drive or two With the amount of repairs you have, getting into drive repair would require a proper work ROOM and a dedicated tech. Find a good shop for referral.
@hazomahazem9624
@hazomahazem9624 2 жыл бұрын
Good work my friend
@handyguy4814
@handyguy4814 2 жыл бұрын
its pretty doable, what you need is already in your shop, torx screwdriver, cleanroom, glove, mask, and thats it. the only things that make it hard, you need to be careful not to touch the platter face, if scratched could end up with bad sector/corrupted data/lost some data. With your skill im pretty confidence it could be done. keep up the good work
@harfoushelectronics2690
@harfoushelectronics2690 2 жыл бұрын
Offcourse u should start experiencing that im from lebanon thank u for all videos
@raiderman28
@raiderman28 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@XiJinPingChinaWale1
@XiJinPingChinaWale1 2 жыл бұрын
Sir you are a master i watch every video laptop hdd related video
@Uneke
@Uneke 2 жыл бұрын
Transferring platters, you need to keep the readers separate, or you’ll bend them trying to separate them (magnets), then line the platters up exactly (down to the mm). I usually use tape on the edges to line up the platter to the next platter, makes it easier for dual platter hdds. Other than those two things, it’s really really easy.
@TheThore
@TheThore 2 жыл бұрын
This "feature" is called "click of death". In many cases you cannot restore the data then. If the plates get shifted, you might also lose data. You might try to swap the reading head instead of the plates. So no shame if you blow it, it is indeed a difficult job which is not always working.
@mehdi7136
@mehdi7136 2 жыл бұрын
thanx for great videos
@avilashroy4336
@avilashroy4336 2 жыл бұрын
i want to see the complete Data recovery process, go for it and Best of luck
@chotuusian4127
@chotuusian4127 2 жыл бұрын
Good work
@rfr653
@rfr653 2 жыл бұрын
good job mate.
@chandramohannandanpawar2617
@chandramohannandanpawar2617 2 жыл бұрын
Looks very tidious work. But do try. See if head assembly is replaceable. I used to do it for blur ray machines.
@bussssta7592
@bussssta7592 Жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU, MY INSPIRATION IS SO HIGH RIGHT NOW, I AM ABOUT TO SEND YOU MINE WITH A DUPLICATE SO WE CAN GET MY FILES BACK
@ShaifulSykes
@ShaifulSykes 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck !
@daljitsingh2143
@daljitsingh2143 Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, this is complex business. I believe you can do it. But remember that you are dealing with microns. If the harddrive has been dropped the stylus arm will have been distorted. They probably use laser alignment at western digital or Seagate. I'm trying to fix a Panasonic video recorder that is studio grade and I can no longer get the heads. I'm going to use a digital caliper tool and record the measurements before taking it apart. It's precision work. So good luck...
@Spencer1609751
@Spencer1609751 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah I want to see More!
@toyamaylo9494
@toyamaylo9494 2 жыл бұрын
i was watching other video of you when this one notif 😊
@jassen22
@jassen22 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice tool 😳💖
@cjcxyzgamer9474
@cjcxyzgamer9474 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see one. How it's done and if it's practical.
@KarhamPaints
@KarhamPaints 2 жыл бұрын
Practice! it would be awesome too see it applied
@hameh_chiz_az_hameh_jah5728
@hameh_chiz_az_hameh_jah5728 2 жыл бұрын
plz plz plz make more videos about this subject 🌹
@Eduardoraraujo
@Eduardoraraujo Жыл бұрын
in addition to changing the platters, in some cases you must also change the BIOS chip from the main HD to the donor HD.
@MasterMobileKotri
@MasterMobileKotri 2 жыл бұрын
good job alex
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is a dead head pre amp (the chip on the flat flex attached to the heads) so you could swap out the bad assembly and try again as a dead pre amp will result in the drive controller not having signal from the heads.
@realtv7316
@realtv7316 2 жыл бұрын
good job.boss
@dekaker9933
@dekaker9933 2 жыл бұрын
I recently got curious and opened up an hdd lol! So in this case did you charge the customer to look at it? Seems like a lot of work for a no fix/charge
@swoopulater
@swoopulater Жыл бұрын
i've been down this road before tried it once precision is the key, all it takes is for the head on the arm to touch the platter and it's 'game over'. The heads are very sensitive and have to be spaced perfectly. the reason the arm keeps jogging back and forth is it is trying to park itself but is not reading correctly so it keeps resetting, most likely because the head on the arm is likely damaged OR the sensor on the arm position is damaged and cannot detect the position so it keeps searching back and forth for the home position. At least this is my guess....
@AhmedHasan-li1mi
@AhmedHasan-li1mi Жыл бұрын
Good 👍
@uzairakram6074
@uzairakram6074 2 жыл бұрын
I have become half a professtional electronic repair person just by watching your videos
@ltan888
@ltan888 2 жыл бұрын
It'll be a very delicate process to replace the head or the platters. You'll need a head comb to replace the head and dedicated jigs to replace the platters. Without these, the failure rate is almost confirmed.
@Mr.Nabil.Belhaj
@Mr.Nabil.Belhaj 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably a reading head failure, transferring disk platters is a tricky job you need to keep them perfectly aligned as they were on the donner drive and it's a 50/50 chance it would work.
@furhad
@furhad 2 жыл бұрын
some of these external hard drives have a little screw that you need to untighten a little bit, maybe this one have the same thing?
@itzcaseykc
@itzcaseykc Жыл бұрын
Why not replace the read/write head/arm assembly from donor/sacrifice drive to intended drive? That seems to be easier to do than replace the platters from intended drive to the donor/sacrificial one.
@alialshams1043
@alialshams1043 2 жыл бұрын
nice Vedio ☮️👍
@RafalScrapper
@RafalScrapper 2 жыл бұрын
cool hdd plater replacement could be fun i guess tough some specialised tools need to be involved 👍
@Rodox2k10
@Rodox2k10 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yea go for it. One more skill to learn means one more job type to cover. I'd love to see you practicing and videoing the process through and through but I do understand that'd be way too much to fit in your very busy schedule. Keep up the great work.
@peterdavid9636
@peterdavid9636 Жыл бұрын
This happens to me customers asking me for the old broken parts to give them back what crazy customers.
@mobgripchamanrogue
@mobgripchamanrogue 2 жыл бұрын
I love your stuffs
@jdmgtfour
@jdmgtfour 2 жыл бұрын
How would you go about repairing and then re-feeling a helium drive?
@sergendrix
@sergendrix 4 ай бұрын
i have similar propblem with an hard drive and i suppose to swap plates, have you done it? and was it successfull?
@rango9763
@rango9763 2 жыл бұрын
What model of microscope do you use? Thank you
@tvuser1
@tvuser1 2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome
@kulibo1
@kulibo1 4 ай бұрын
Oooh, when you swap the boards, the clicking stopped. I thought you will say that it is something wrong with the firmware. Cause if it was something wrong with the reading heads, shouldn't it still click with the new board ?
@carloscollomps1552
@carloscollomps1552 2 жыл бұрын
Once i had to transfer the platter from a damaged HDD to another to transfer data, while still keeping the "donor" HDD intact and in working order after the procedure. I did it in my car repair shop with some basic safety precautions.
@pcmobitab
@pcmobitab 5 ай бұрын
If the pcb is fine and only the issue is with the head, can we simply replace the head without transferring the bios? 2nd point: if we have to use the donor pcb then can we flash the bios using ch341a programmer and flash it with the old bios's data? Instead of soldering ans desoldering the pbysical bios chips and swapping
@atesin_dj
@atesin_dj 2 жыл бұрын
in 3:54 ... i can see a tiny solder ball in destination L350 component, below the "0", not present in the source board i am not experienced in soldering, i just have an acute vision, am a little obsessive and got luck
@janpedersen9120
@janpedersen9120 2 жыл бұрын
would be some nice thing to learn, and show.. im interested :D
@loadedfry2.089
@loadedfry2.089 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it Alex
@davidbasara6162
@davidbasara6162 2 ай бұрын
I have a Seagate 2.5 inch 3 platter 1,000GB (not to be confused with 1TB) drive I'm working on and I've honestly replaced EVERYTHING physically. I've delicately placed the platters into a new drive shell to utilize a new motor, swapped the reading head, swapped the lower and upper magnets, swapped the motherboard. The drive spins up, the head reads to the center slowly and then goes back to the outer disk a total of 10 times and then spins down. The entire time the drive is not readable. Should I purchase a molex adapter to attempt a firmware flash or something?
@naeemn45
@naeemn45 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any advise on bios unlocking and uefi firmware update? Those videos would be nice.
@JatinVermaIndia
@JatinVermaIndia 2 жыл бұрын
Why transfer platters? Can't you swap the reading head itself?
@misfortune5007
@misfortune5007 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really curious of what failed in that hard drive. You're changing the board and the firmware which would be the fast, easy and economical way to do it, but this type of manifestation is more common than you might think. I personally am holding a 13 year old 320WD which failed in the same way due to easy mechanical shock. It wasn't even powered on and the fact that I have hdd's that suffered bigger shocks and still work just gives my brain a 404wtf moment. I've had numerous attempts to repair that hdd and can't find anything loose, cracked, burnt, or short circuited. Maybe it's something I'm missing. Manifestation is the same. spin, crackling, loud buzz
@bluetuscani5607
@bluetuscani5607 2 жыл бұрын
This is gotten very interesting 🤔
@a.caceres7465
@a.caceres7465 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see it! i thought that just opening it, it instantly get damaged...
@jafrujafru
@jafrujafru 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it!!
@new-knowledge8040
@new-knowledge8040 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. In the "Time's Arrow" episode, Data had lost his head for 500 years, yet once reached to his body, he was up and going once again.
@YEH-
@YEH- 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is: not scratching platters while removing housing parts, It needs special tools as far as I know, but your level of craftsmanship is superhuman so It might be the perfect challenge.
@Clarkarty
@Clarkarty 2 жыл бұрын
Stick to what you are already so good at, no need to complicate things.
@giedriusvaisvilas5717
@giedriusvaisvilas5717 2 жыл бұрын
Great work i think you beable to do this job whit little practice it's will be new lesson like new experience
@user-un6we3nu3q
@user-un6we3nu3q 2 жыл бұрын
it's a good thing to improve your skills and do something new , i hope one day to see a video that continet a plate transfer.
@TomsTechRepair
@TomsTechRepair 2 жыл бұрын
I've done a few of these and just changed the head. It's not always successful. Practice is the key. If customer is indeed 100% needing data they have to pay the huge price data recovery centers pay. If they would like it but if it goes it goes then worth having a go to keep costs down. Needs to be from identical drive as changing head to smaller or bigger can have issues with compatibility.
@ovalprophets169
@ovalprophets169 2 жыл бұрын
Iv got a similar problem with my ps4 pro hard drive but when I took the motherboard off the gold connector plate was turning black so cleaned it now fine but wonder if u no if its a common problem? It reads fine was just when It started beeping once then I rebuild data base then started to beep more to open and fined black spec on gold pads
@TheHeisenberg1970
@TheHeisenberg1970 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t this cleanroom device sucking air through the filter from above and blowing it out downwards towards the device? Otherwise the dirty air in the normal environment would contaminate the device on the working surface.
@Darren777Au
@Darren777Au 2 жыл бұрын
I've looked into platter exchange and it looks simple for as long as you do things in the correct order, including, how you put stickie tape around the platters and move it all over in one step. How to 'lock' the heads so they remain parked. All should be fine.
@atinder2006
@atinder2006 2 жыл бұрын
You'll go through thousands of drives not hundreds to be successful at platter swap.
@Darren777Au
@Darren777Au 2 жыл бұрын
@@atinder2006 not necessarily. thousands of drives. You really only have to match the boards of the hard drive and swap them with the platters. Seen plenty of video's on this plus I know those who have done this in the past.
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