He didn't even say that though..

​@kevinm5898 Gonna have to ask you to log off for me bud

@@KingChoripan No thanks.

Point is it was a lot higher but he keept saying the whole time just "a little higher" 😅

A little higher ehhh A little higher ehhh A little higher ehhh 😂 cringe

It's not about your role it's about what data you're working with. You're comment explains why you're not making more.

@@koyotecow7102*your

​@@koyotecow7102it doesn't matter because sometimes companies would offer you less just to see if they can get away with it it was done to me when I first start my job then I realized and I went back after a couple of months and they said if didn't ask for more and then up my income

​@koyotecow7102 she's a comment? Lmao bruh. Your*

You should ask for more always, but I’m in IT recruiting and this is the top .0001% of data scientists. He’s most likely lying. Right out of school people in this field make about 110-120k and by year 5 will be around 200k. (Based on rates not in nyc or LA/ bay area)

And it almost got cut 😂🤦‍♂️

Sooo, African feminist basket weaving won't help?

Really all your degree is worth. It's why people get so booty blasted by people who became competent programmers through a 3 month bootcamp and on-the-job training. You spent 4+ years paying for useless English, science, writing, etc. classes to prove that you are "competent" whereas some codeyboi learned the actual skill in 1 year and demonstrated their competency while getting paid

And had free time to start building a side project- another evidence of competency! You don't need a 4 year degree for most tech jobs now

@@senorbeast09 they didn't become competent through a 3 month bootcamp though. Becoming a quality engineer definitely takes a lot of time and commitment. Through a bootcamp maybe one can start out as a web developer, which is not bad by any means. Of course in the USA the university system is definitely overpriced and they force you to take gay electives, but in the rest of the world it definitely pays to have at least a bachelors. For my computer science / statistics double major bachelor of science, my total fees are 12k USD, and that included cost of living. For example the "proper" data science position, you can't take a bootcamp for that, that requires masters/phd. You really need that research component for those positions. Good luck getting around that

Hehe India.

😂😂😂

😂

Lol don't worry that's most of us

Omg 😂 😂😂

Mine too

Same lol

Same, lame

Feels su!cidal man

That should be a wake up call for you

@@QBQ98 nope

Where tf was that wholesome what?

@@SCVTTR enough with the energy drinks. You're not even coherent

@@p.shermanfortytwowallabyla9488😂😂😂

There's nothing wholesome. She's just surprised. Just cause she's pretty you're gonna exaggerate everything she does. So many simps in 2023.

more like a 4 sq ft closet

Idk, that might be pushing it. I think he might be able to split a studio apartment with only 4 roommates.

Denver isn't that expensive lol

@@17h127 😂

thhe dude earns 246000, which is in Denver Co 176.000 net, and by google a 2 bedroom appartment is 2700 in Denver which makes it 33000 to rent for a year, leaving him with 143.000 cash to spend a year, or 12.000 a month. that’s amazing. what am I missing?

What grad school did you attend?

@@wescraven2606 what is his name ?

What grad school was that ?

Why lie

I'm curious, why are you happy that someone is making a large amount of money? How does that bring you pleasure, that some person you don't know is being paid a lot of money? I don't mean you should be envious or hateful, I just mean it's an entirely neutral thing to me.

Figures…he lives in Colorado a red state and doesn’t like taxes with a high income….

@@HelloooThere Colroado is a Blue State.

But with 245k as a cushion plus bonuses/awards … eh he’ll be alright haha

@@neilmenon8943 well, I’ll be…

@@yousef2508 good then we can afford free luxuries thanks to you

Gay

@@Chris_t0Brokie

@@Chris_t0- what isn't gay to you, friend?

you@@sareykim

Why did I even go to uni

not at all out of range among my peers on us west coast if anything I know plenty of people in the industry with a much higher total comp

Hiring entry lvl ML engineer with internship experience and and with MLOps focus? I’ll pay you for a resume check and feedback. I can’t get a job…

@@ilyas8523 I'll do a resume check for free. I'm not hiring at the moment though I have a ton of friends in the industry so I come across openings frequently. are you active on linkedin?

Not for startups and big tech. This is normal for 5+ years in data science esp w ML. We just hired Sr. ML @ $250k base

He included equity which is likely a large portion

You know this for sure or just assuming?. I have a 225k sign-on bonus over 2 years. Those are on-off, your stocks/RSU are paid just like your salary, so it's not bragging factoring it into your total compensation. You would be lieing if you didn't. And in most companies bonus is not one-off it may vary year to year but you get a minimum which is more than what most people make. Maybe you are reffering to people working in private companies where the stocks may not be actual money. For publicly traded companies, stocks is as good as cash. It may go up or down.

@@notjohnAtall No I don't know this man personally but he said in the clip he's including stock. Factoring in RSU as if it's equivalent to your salary isn't being honest with yourself or others, though I don't think it's intentional or malicious. The issue with including RSU into your salary is a few reasons: - They aren't guaranteed yearly, they can change so do you correct your salary yearly based on the sign-on bonus ending after 2 years or with every bonus paid? - They typically vest over time, so if you leave or are fired prematurely you lose anything that hasn't vested. Which is similar to "you don't get paid salary for the rest of the year" but RSUs don't vest daily so while you'll get paid until your last day, you won't get that next vest period which you may have already worked most of. - Their value is not 1:1 with the dollar. Especially if your company is pre-IPO. The value of a share could be, and likely will be, dramatically more or less than the value by the time you're legally allowed to sell them. Quantity of shares is far more reasonable/fair to discuss. I would always share my pay as "$x + x shares" because I felt it was much more comprehensible. Throwing a lump sum of $250k at someone is partially worthless information to them because they can't use that to help themselves negotiate. Especially since when my last company IPOd my TC would have been $1mil that year, but that's incredibly unfair because by the time I could legally sell my shares my TC had already dropped 5 fold. The stock value would have carried my TC number so heavily that it was nothing but a brag to share, and a brag that I couldn't even legally act upon to get that money.

@@tylers3863 Those are good points. I agree mostly. And that's why I said pre-IPO company I wouldn't even include the RSU as part of TC, it might be worth zero when you want to sell. It's also try you might lose part of RSU if it doesn't vest before you part way with the company. I agree a good way is to say here's my base plus this and that. But even that most people who are not in the space don't even understand the concept of RSU. Most careers don't even have that option, I guess that's why people just throw out that figure. I totally agree a follow up explanation will make it more comprehensible

He can sell the atock dumdum

@@AM-lz2jr spoken like a man who has never been offered a stock option

lol 😂

Best comment 😂😂

You dare to dream. 🫡

Why are you incompetent you're asking I don't know your parents could probably answer that better than random strangers on the internet

@@YZ450f24 you sound like a damn good guy. Kudos to your parents my good sir

He should pay lots of taxes

@@drmarkriekewhy? It should be millionaires and billionaires that should pay a lot of taxes

As an American, don’t do it🤣

the salary of a data scientist in Europe have a lot of difference?

@@TheGreatWasian_why

In France it’s 40k in Paris as starting and probably double that after 10/15 years

Before taxes of course

Yeah he’s gunna create the most malevolent ad tech ever seen lmao.

@@RePlayQ he seems wholesome so hopefully not lol

⁠@@soultaker840data scientists are the people that build AI systems

​its just a BA bud chill out. It covers the bare basics.

​@@soultaker840yeah agree with the above comment - I'm currently doing a BA in psych and you learn **** fuck all about 'understanding human behaviour' lmao

There's difference between producing a product through physical means and mental. Most of them can do manpower related works but only few can do complex math related problems. But that doesn't mean people with good physical attributes wont earn alot. They can if they can get very skilled at that, ex: sports, doesn't require a lot of complex problem solving but should be very skilled at their job by practing a lot.

you can go to school without having debt. it’s just ppl fall into the traps universities set. do research and find the loopholes

@@kingkobra_1945exactly, or sacrifice some of your young years saving up/finding ways to fund college expenses.

It’s okay 😂I went to college and got a masters and he still makes 4x what I make. I’m a special education teacher and work with kids with severe autism. Money is in big tech, pharma, all those types of companies.

And after all taxes and expenses you basically make 100k a year saved up after 50 years maybe you might be able to buy a Bugatti.

@@Sakaaruser22 Still more than like 98% of the world.

Per chance😂,are you looking for someone to work under you😂as a Datascientist

@@melanp4698 that’s irrelevant to what I said.

Wrong… Data science base is usually starting around $140-280k depending on location, as you progress in experience that base salary easily go to 460k

@@user-kd7kr1zu8x i am guessing you make that much..?lol

@@user-zo6iw2oz9c 380k + 75-150% performance bonus but I’m in NYC at a hedge fund. My boss makes 1.1 mil + bonus

​@@user-kd7kr1zu8xwhere are you getting that from? Average in the US is around $110k

I feel bad as a senior data scientist of 8 years that I am only doing the entry level salary of a US data scientist

Can you tell me how hard the math and statistics in this career are? I was pretty good at math in school but it's been many years since I left.

@@KP99 it's relatively hard but it's not too hard you have to understand a little bit of calculus in order to understand statistics. I'm a computer engineering graduate.

I know. I'm in Denver too this man seems amazing.

Money worship is so cringe 😬😂😂😂

If compactly supported integral transformations (e.g. via a kernel) make sense to you, you’re good to go

I might be his dad

He seems to be edging on the spectrum and not realizing how awkward it gets after take 3. Probably rips at his job.

@@bnumber8 my god you guys really are stretching it hard, eh? yt comment section armchair psychologists..

@@nikjojo have you ever been around and interacted with other humans?

@@bnumber8or he’s just an f boy who’s all about that humble brag when he keeps saying “a little higher” and people are like “ZOMG no way!!! Wow!!” You’re not a licensed physician. You can’t just diagnose people as if it’s a fact. Stop that.

@@jasonvargas7564 it's KZfaq bro. Relax.

no it isnt lol.

there's a transversal branch in psychology that's called psychometrics and it's purely statistical. It's one of the most profitable psychology branches if not the most. So it's not even a transition at all.

Not really. Anything that’s statistics and data modeling heavy is a good bet. I know a girl who went into it from a linguistics bachelors because she used stats so much

@@hipsterbm5134yes tf it is

What on earth is “wild” when transitioning from psychology to “data science”? A person who has any clue about psychology would not make such a statement and a person who does not probably should not. No offense. Instead, an invitation (a bit brisk admittedly sorry) to learn more about psychology. It’s probably worth it. All the best and much love to everyone - Candygrabber ❤

Lol she's married to the person recording this video. They just had a wedding recently 😂

A little higher ehhhk A little higher ehhhk A little higher ehhhk 😂 cringe

240 aint shit buddy 😅

​@@Wooooptywoopyou probably make 24

@@Wooooptywoop240 is 6 times higher than what the average american makes “buddy”

I would if I could.

Hey probably just uses Scikit-learn all day and doesn't model anything from scratch.

It’s on our YT, long-form compilation.

@@SalaryTransparentStreet yes, I found it. Thanks again.

Yes it was 👌

@@AroundTheWayGirl88which one is it?

IBM Data Science from Coursera?

@naufalsamrath Yep. I was working as a PM contractor and a recruiter told me to do it. I have a research (dev genetics) background so the math and research points I already had covered- and R programming.

How many hours do you put in per week

@Jormungadr I had to put in about 12hr per week, I scheduled the time in. I still practice on concepts that aren't immediately being used. I would recommend practicing Python and practice some more. Take days off. Also, take a db cert class, learn about data lakes and ML. I've worked in clinical research and the riding theme with science careers is that you are always at study.

​@@ianlondon2888 what degree did you have prior to getting the bootcamps? Was it directly data science and machine learning?

You can tell when each time he said “little higher” he’s trying to be grounded and not come across as a douche. Instantly knew this was a good dude

⁠@@Atlas92936no he’s bragging. He knows it’s not “a little higher” but wants to take her on a guessing game where the answer keeps being “a little higher” until he finally wows us with his gross pay because the gross is larger than take home and it makes him seem richer than he really is. This is the type of guy who knows how to impress others in his humblebrag speak. Well spoken and smart but has to prove he’s better than other people.

I make about $330k and it is extremely awkward answering this question to anyone that isn't already wealthy. I'm not telling my friends and family -- that are poor as shit and can barely pay rent -- that I make in a month what they do in a year.

bc he’s not lying 🤥.

because hes white

What degree would I need to get into this field?

@@KoolAidSquirtmath, cs, data science, statistics. Anything heavy with statistics and math for sure

@@coder-steph fuck I suck at statistics lol

? ok

⁠@@KoolAidSquirtSQM also can work. SQM majors might just have a degree called Data Science lol

Only if you’re into it though, it’s very stressful and complex. You have to absolutely love it or you’ll sell your soul for the $245k.

@@hungergameshubthat’s not true

Average starting salary is 200k+?? There's gotta be one of the highest paying jobs.... Which universities are known for providing the best masters degree in data science if you don't mind me asking??

​@@BEEShariqueHammadUniversity Malaya, Kuala Lumpur

@@BEEShariqueHammadYou don’t need a degree, just learn online. Some people without a degree make triple that.

Georgia Tech has a good masters program

Wish I could make that much money with this kind of job. Omg i got emotional😂. Actually money is not that thing. The thing is doing something that can make myself proud. If you make even more by doing something illegal will not make you proud like him. Respect for this man.

Who cares his sister is hot

@@Beacher1085 se non bestemmio guarda

@@CarloClementi-qv9zg Is that napoletan?

Can you tell me how hard the math and statistics are in this career? I was pretty good at math in school but it's been many years.

Change employers now

@@KP99 not too bad...u do need to understand advanced statistical methods which are a vast, deep area of applied math so we are talking about hours of study of lots of topics to get comfortable with diff techniques and how to choose most appropriate way to test database relationships. arithmetic wise your doing zero math in the end because numpy and R and most other proprietary solutions already have most statistical functions coded.

Get into machine learning bruv

@@jaylev85no thanks, math sucks but that’s just because I sucked at it.

Why?

hey youre pretty ❤

Probably will be paying more in taxes than most people make in salary.

I think he is lying

I second this motion. Been there, survived it. Thank God, God put me in a new position.

True this.

Terrible advice. You could retire in ten years with that salary and do whatever the fuck you LOVE for the rest of your life without having to slave away. Do what you must not what you love. This isn’t preschool.

​@@AzulaAlwaysLies2461 Lot of assumptions there. You're already jaded and miserable. Money can't buy you true happiness.

@@AzulaAlwaysLies2461 many things can happen in 10 years that would change a person.

Then why don’t they work in data science too? You can’t help people when they decide to go into dead end jobs.

​@martinlutherkingjr.5582 oh sure, we'll become data scientists. I'm sure that will work out.

@@elenachristian9860 Exactly, and they don’t even require a degree or high school diploma at most companies for data scientist and software engineering roles.

nope, tax in the US is really low (espeically where he lives). effective tax rate for him will be 31.37%.

@@theenduranceyou mean not all income is taxed at the highest marginal rate? This is shocking.

Bro what, how did you think it called at 150k? That's literally average salary in data science, anyone with descent experience in a field will always make more than average.

I once thought that to, but in many fields now they’re really starting to hand out some hefty salaries (as they should because inflation). Typically this is in STEM and the finance fields in big cities. It’s not uncommon to see a few decades of experience getting $300k or more. After 10 years a lot of these people already near $200k it seems. Personally I know of a few people 50/60 years old getting $400k salaries or more in NYC. At that point they’re ushered in as a president, or a lead, because of all that experience.

@@Ryan-cb1eithat seems low for data science tbh

He’s a data scientist aka super nerd. Usually super nerd spend their money elsewhere and flashy clothes or cars aren’t those things. He probably has a sick home theatre set up and top of the line computers.

Meanwhile all the ballers that dress flashy... 👀

​@sharinglungs3226 yeah and wealthier people are usually skilled. Nerds have a much higher chance of being skilled, so the point that was originally made stands true?

​@@hobosnake1the point is that people spend wealth in different ways.

​@@sharinglungs3226"super nerd"? Cringe. Can't really Ball with 250k

245k gross is not the top 1% in denver

@@badcholesterolI think they mean in the US… what they are driving home is that everyone is lying about their income…..

@@badcholesterolexactly. If you interview people walking around Denver, you’re going to interview mostly rich people who have the money to live in and enjoy denver

$450k is top 1% and your aggregate total net worth should be over $1M

get a new job

Mom’s friend has a similar salary and he works 70 hour work weeks on average.. so I would assume around that 🤔 though I also know having a masters really shoots the salary up

Data scientist not pulling any long hours,it's 50-60hr/week average

It's 8 hrs per day. I'm a software developer and my sister is a data scientist. And I can say for sure that this is accurate

Depends on the type of company, unless it’s a start up it’s probably 40-50 hours per week.

@@martinlutherkingjr.5582ain’t no way startup would pay 245k salary

Yeah overpaid

Move to california and watch nurses to riches

nurses in the bay can get 200k

Vote for lower taxes. There, now you're a republican.

​@@HomelessOnlinenah they're even more incompetent than the Democrats somehow and their last big tax cut bill under Trump 86% of the benefits went to the top 1% over a ten year stretch so again hell no

Exactly!

He literally said in tech

That’s 16th street actually and yes they are definitely abundant there too

Yup that’s Colorado now

@@youdontknow7190every city

Welcome to Denver - but yeah that is typically people making 200k and up next to people on the 16th st mall that would be lucky to make 5k a year.

@@dwight_s boulder is just as bad if not worse. Upper middle class women walking with their babies in the stroller in the park at 11th and walnut besides crowds of circles of homeless shooting and smoking heroine, crystal and fentanyl blowing the shit down wind towards the kids. Crazies harassing you there by the river and everyone there just lives with it, letting it be okay.

No. He works at google. You are granted a total amount of shares that spans across 4 years. 70k is what he receives at the end of the year and that is recurring and usually increases the closer you get to the 4th year of fully vesting your total equity package. So that total amount isn’t 70k, it’s likely 70k * 4= 280k.

@@horologie yep, and then you get refreshers each year that stack for equity. so at year 4 you are vesting 4 grants, huge pay day. btw your user name, into watches?

Who wouldn’t expect to work for that kind of salary? Don’t you realize why people are paid higher amount of money? It’s usually because they have a particular set of skills that sets them apart from most and therefore they’re compensated to perform them and do it well. And no, most tech workers don’t lie about their salary. They usually tell you the base salary and then the equity. Which is known as total compensation. Nobody that I’ve ever seen in tech ever includes their 401k or benefits as income. You’re likely just very jealous and broke and have to make up theories like this to justify why you’ll never make that kind of money.

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