Stories about the last ones to submit to the American government. Stories about the west taking hundreds of years for the whites to take.

Thanks for the great content. I was going to recommend doing stories of natives in pre-columbian America. I think that would be interesting.

Gross, nobody would ever say that below the rio grande/bravo. As if there are indigenous people in north anerica. Majority in places lived ismus highlands entire nation Bolivia Peru, Andes. 85 IQ hyper violent, savages practicing genocides on each other, not a wheel language writing or technology Stone Age. Not even horses. Killing thousand a day on temple dedications and eating the bodies. Collapsing there own hydro cycles and worlds in cycles. Truly apocalyptic, like Rama Nui Meso American. Other and over and over destroy ing their world. Fetishism is reverse racism based on foolishness and lies, it’s worse racism. Based in nothing but self loathing. Look up actual statistics of claimed partial native not that were first people were coming to American for ages even Polynesians.

Id like to hear about when the Choctaw and Chickasaw 1st moved to Indian territory and were being raided by the Caddo or maybe even the Comanche. Idk, i have only got one sided fragments of the story. Any stories of Native tribes told from their POV will get me listening. Great job

I live in Pawnee county OK and would love to learn more about the Pawnee tribe.

Thank you! It was a rough world. Fascinating to think about.

you are a white man 😭

I can not see any Comanche at that photo ?!?

@@SeabassSeeker Yeah, I look white. My mom is white. Everyone thinks my sister is Mexican because of how she looks. DNA can be weird.

@@drgil65 it's called being racially mixed.

Hahaha good luck my man! Now be the warrior 😉

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I think they all are

lol

Run brother, run on a horse I tell u run

If it were possible to go back in time, there is no amount of money you could give me that would put me back anywhere before 1900. We have it so easy today by comparison.

Better medical and dental care. Just about all us southerners carry handguns, so most folks are better armed today.

Just hearing why the Comanche women kept their hair short…to limit the ticks and lice, only bathing in ceremonial rituals makes my skin crawl but in context this isn’t even a big deal. That alone reminded me that as a kid I’d often think that I’d like to go back and live in another era. But like @datesanddeadguys I’m probably not cut out for any period before 1900, maybe even later than that. Lice/ticks were the least of their problems but both make me nauseous. I’m an outdoorsman, always have been so I’m not bothered by stuff that might offend the sensibilities of others…I just have a problem with personal odors and especially with foreign invaders occupying one’s body in any way. Call me soft….it’s fine, probably appropriate. After being outside all day, particularly in the summer while wearing a polyester shirt, I often think…oh my God, is that what I smell like? Rancid. That’s why I rarely buy polyester shirts, I stick to bamboo which doesn’t smell bad…but after reading “Empire of the Summer Moon” and watching a number of these videos, rancid personal odors, bodily invaders and unthinkably awful hygiene were rarely mentioned but it had to have been common, just how it was. Add back how physically, mentally and personally demanding life was, children often dying of disease, seasonal climate/weather conditions, food (or lack of), the constant struggle to simply survive; stack the danger that was always present to some degree and finally consider the absolute lack of compassion and respect for life by some; the only way I’d want to be there is with modern gear, tools and weapons. And a few friends similarly equipped. Since that’s not possible I’m happy to read or watch and learn about life centuries ago and thank God I was born in this era. It really is amazing how little is known about the history of today’s United States. There are clues, artifacts, things that have and have yet to be found but unlike Europe and other civilizations, little is written or known about large parts of the country just a couple hundred years ago- the blink of an eye in time. As an absolute amateur, it appears that Indians didn’t exactly chronicle and save anything, unless drawing in the dirt with a stick counts. Like the game in which a message is passed through a group starting on one end, the message is inevitably screwed completely up by the time it reaches the last person. So it is with native history…word of mouth is all that is left covering decades, even centuries of civilizations. It’s remarkable to think of how many people lived in that era, how much happened that is unknown and unknowable…from battles to wars, from family histories to individuals who lived, worked, made it work for generations- stories that will never be told again. That…the unknown and unknowable is what makes seeing evidence of people- whether it is finding an arrowhead or other ancient tool, evidence of residences on the sides of cliffs, or a picture drawn or scratched on a rock or other hard surface so intriguing. I went hunting in NM last fall, my guide told me about one day, while hiking in the mountains of NM, he reached up and into a rock ledge and found a remarkable collection of stone tools and edges neatly piled, hidden for God only knows how long, I found this incredibly interesting. Who left it there? Where did they live? How did they live? Why did they never come back for what was clearly useful and valuable to them? What happened in the days after it was left there, what happened in the weeks and months preceding and following placement? Who were the people who left it there, what is their history, what were their lives like? The imagination is piqued every time something like this is found…what happened here? This part is nuts… he reported his find to a university professor, an archeologist…the man generally agreed to be the expert in these matters in NM (don’t ask me his name, I have no idea.) My friend had no reason to lie, nothing to be gained yet he reached out, even sent photos, simply to allow an expert the opportunity to listen, to investigate, learn, perhaps discover something of significance. Call it a favor because many or most never tell anyone what they’ve found or where for a variety of reasons. This “renowned expert” dismissed his find out of hand, claiming the find was impossible and refusing any further contact. One would think with the relative rarity of anyone taking the time to contact experts coupled with a willingness to show where he found it etc to at least illicit a tacit interest, maybe even a full on archeological investigation but for whatever reason that’s not what happened. This was just a few years ago, he’s still got his find and still knows exactly where he found it. Thank you for these videos, your stories are intriguing, worth my valuable time. Reminds me that storytelling, common in my grandparents and even parents early lives is an art, one that is today increasingly rare and therefore valuable.

The formless and enlightened entities of the 25th century are actually doing much better than we. They even have 5d-TV.

@@Kmartinusa888 Your way of thinking about these things is very similar to mine. I also often think about the lives of random people of the past that I happen to find out about. Even those few that were actually well-known and even had books written about (or by) them are still mostly a mystery, since books, stories etc. only cover the most important events in those people's lives and leave out the rest which makes up over 99% of it. Always puts me in a melancholic mood when I think about how all those people's experiences/stories and memories are forever wiped out when they die, and nobody will be able to find anything out about them ever again. I find it quite depressing that everyone is limited to just his own life and experiences, without being able to experience the endless amount of things that other people experience, or to see things through their eyes etc.

They were the downfall since the Garden.

@@nathanielovaughn2145 Kiss "THEY'S" A$$.

I'm from Australia & heard all my life women are a lot harder on other women than men are on men in prisons here. I'm thinking it's like that worldwide. Women are far meaner to other women to establish & control pecking orders in prisons than men are on men.....!

@@nathanielovaughn2145 No that was the snake. 😉

I have female friends who prefer male company for that reason.

I have been in the woods before and come across bear tracks. You feel the hair on your spine raise. I can’t imagine living two hundred years ago when there was the threat of something like raid. Horrifying.

close to Silverton, Tx?

@@z-z-z-z Wichita Falls.

Thanks for your story.

Haha! Nothing's changed.

That’s the goal. Exactly how I want it to feel.

No one wants me to upload more than me. Good news is that in the real world I am a school teacher and with summer coming up my schedule frees up quite a bit. Should be able to to get something out every 2 weeks or so from June-September….I hope. Thanks for watching! When I finish this series I have a plan to do a video on how the rubber boom is connected to Uncontacted tribes in the Amazon. Which is fun, since you are in Brazil.

@@datesanddeadguys Great, looking forward to it!

@@datesanddeadguys favourite channel. So fascinating

Cheers back from the US man. Doin the same thing up here lol

I love hearing that people are pumped to watch. Thank you for the story. Fighting is an experience that I think lends itself to people bonding. Even in a loss, just outperforming your limitations garners respect from people. Great to hear it made you a friend. I appreciate you sharing the channel. Goal is to keep it growing and that really helps.

Actually they kept children old enough to care for themselves, but not too old that they wouldn't accept the change in tribe/lifestyle. They did this to keep their tribe numbers up.

There is nothing in my life I have to compare it to. Terror and dread beyond what I can fathom. Part of the point was for it not to be over quickly. Treatment like that isn’t rare historically. Europeans famously broke people on the wheel and made theater out of long executions. The Vikings are famous for the “Blood Eagle.” I am sure you don’t have to go far back to find examples from nearly all cultures. I am grateful to live in America today.

@@datesanddeadguys Lynchings in the American south were sometimes as bad as anything that can be imagined.

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Thank you and I’ll keep getting them out as fast as I can.

Dispensation for all that live an unhealthy lifestyle 😢

I did a video a couple months ago on what experiencing being raided by the Comanche was like. Some of that kind of information is there but my video on the 1861 Battle of Blanco Canyon is probably the best I have for something posted right now on the topic. My next two videos (unless I get distracted) also follow that kind of theme. I want to hit the other end of the pendulum. Instead of a story of what it was like to be attacked I want to do one that follows a war party and identifies the tactics and customs that went along with it. I will probably use the Elm Creek Raid as the attack to follow. After that I want to do a video on Jack Coffee Hayes and how his adoption of the Colt Revolver changes how Rangers could fight the Comanche. Both will hopefully do what you are looking for.

Thanks for the reply, yes, I seen the other video's. I will be waiting for the all the next ones. I don't miss any of your great video's. Thanks again

A majority of the indians were canables... and there were no plains indians before the horse

if you only focus on the negative, no society would qualify as 'kind'

@axhed really ? So it doesnt matter if they are canables so long as they are nice to their kids ?

@@ronallens6204 it doesn't matter if they're *not* cannibals if they send their kids into mines and dangerous factories. see? ever society can have fingers pointed at it.

@axhed the big draw for many whites and one of the roots of their problems is the indian motto "you cannot tell any man what to do" with that as a guiding light to indian ways, its no wonder they could take another mans wife and it did not matter to the whole, only between the thief and the victim.. the tribe could hold a council to 'try' a murderer, and find him not guilty, a family member could walk up and kill him outright and nothing else happen... the women can be raped and its no crime because u cant tell a man what to do or not do... that is the indian way

They are native AMERICAN

@@ikengmira7576 depends which 1st people you talk to. Indigenous, native , first people and yes some prefer the word Indian. Or you can always just call them by their first name.

I'm Australian as a young man I went to prison. Being white blonde the yards were full of indigenous Currie lads who harassed n bullied me until I fought one long and nasty ...afterwards I could trust him and his mates with my life...

@@ikengmira7576 The ones I have known normally used the word Indian, unless they had gone to college where they were instructed by white, liberal professors to insist on "Native American." But the average, everyday Indian has no problem with the word Indian in my experience. BTW, if you read works from a hundred years ago, "native American" was normally assumed to mean a native born white American. Indians back then were still not American citizens but citizens of their tribes, dual citizenship being illegal until Congress made an exception for citizens of Indian tribes in the 1930s; I think that change was part of the Indian Reorganization Act.

​@@user-lu7dg5ny1rI fully agree with you, and I speak as one who's own biological father was fully Indigenous Comanche and Abenaki (weird backstory around how my Abenaki grandfather from Maine wound up in Texas and married to my Comanche grandmother, but I digress). First of all; we are NOT from the Indian Subcontinent! Native, yes. To THESE 2 continents, isthmus, and many islands. However, Indigenous implies so much more. As in, the original inhabitants of a land or region, whereas Native implies that we have been here since the beginning of the human race's existence. As for our supposed "short stature", I don't know, as my own father was 6'2", fought for the US military in the Korean War. I doubt that he would have been considered to be of "short stature"! My grandmother was reportedly a petite lady of around 5'3".

I wonder if historically their contact with the Spanish Conquistadores made their treatment of whites so brutally, viciously cruel? As were the Spaniards..

@@user-nk7xu8uy7c Apparently it did. That and the Apaches absolutely bullied them. It was actually Spanish horses that escaped, which the commanches learned to ride. Empire of the Summer Moon is an incredible book if you're into reading. I listened to it on audio though because I'm lazy haha

Honestly, had European diseases not been so deadly, things might have been very different. It was just bad luck that the Old World was set up to breed such nasty diseases where the New World really didn't.

remember our history is not what we are told. There were people here long before the American Indians came. There are buildings that can Not be recreated to this day by modern man. ( modern man being 17??-2024) We know they had electricity, with electric bikes/cars in the early 18??. We seen the pictures & movie pictures, but yet after the reset in the 18??. Man kind was made to go back to horse & buggy. In fact horse & wagons were still used till the 1940's. My father told me that is what they used till get a car. Interesting huh? Oh don't forget a find archeology found between WA & Canada. A village of white man, with other bones mixed in. & they think it's some of the oldest bones ever found. To date. 😊

I appreciate that. Thank you.

Absolutely. I mention it in the video but it was official policy on punitive expeditions to treat the women in the camps as hostiles. One thing I don’t mention is how on some larger warparties women would tag along as logistical support. They would assist in reloading rifles and sometimes lay down cover fire in the event of strategic retreat. These women were very dangerous to Comanche enemies.

@@datesanddeadguys So it wasn't just white soldiers slaughtering the women out of cruelty, they were threats. Never knew that.

Quite the opposite. They established the ultimate FAFO culture.

@@datesanddeadguys It makes one appreciate civilization, and religious creeds like Christianity with universal ethical systems.

Cool story bro 😂😂😂

He actually bent you over and clapped your cheeks Don't lie

It's a scary thought that this kind of cruelty would give one an advantage in inter tribal competition. What kind of personality would thrive socially (and reproductively) in such a culture? What kind of traits or behavioral tendencies would tend to be passed on to each succeeding generation? One of the most amazing discoveries of the last 40 years is how heritable human personality and attitudes are. Public opinion, public policies, and the social sciences still have not reconciled themselves to the significance of these discoveries. For example, what is the significance of the fact that convicted felons in England and Sweden have been discovered to have double the fertility of the general population? How might bending the genetic twig in that direction eventually transform our societies?

@@michaels4255 the higher fertility may be due to the higher testosterone levels that pushes more viloence behavior.. without self control they become outcasts of society... a teacher once said every society with a well trained army in history had to keep expanding because the soldiers no longer could fit into society. Indians were just advanced gang warfare not to mention and less spoken canableism they enguaged in. Exterminating an enemy was always a viable option and much of their elitism was a result if it. A linguist did a study and found links to their origins, and like some headhunters in south america, were polineasian in their language which kept them isolated, unable to communicate with those around them.

​@@ronallens6204absolutely hilarious lol what but I guess u are a European person lol

And exactly why do you think this is a badge of honor?

@@user-ny1vo8sf8n because it is now ours by right of conquest, its the indian way, winner take all

Well, we know women are more emotional in general. We know they struggle with bitterness and unforgiveness more than men. Easier to injure in their spirit, so easier to get to a place of extreme cruelty. There, millions of dollars in research saved, never mind the study, you're welcome!😁 Kidding, of course

It’s everywhere and more recent than most people think.

Agreed. Many nations, from all across the world, have dabbled in slavery, and it has shaped us as a society not to tolerate it. Except for those who feel that slavery (of others) would benefit them. But those people aren't really tolerated in society, for good reason.

And has had varying forms. Slavery in traditional societies is vastly different from that of the antebellum south.

As recent as 2017, slaves are still being auctioned in public in Libya. . . .

You're obviously totally clueless about slavery. Slavery is alive and well in the Muslim world. Just check Mozambique

The video is very very accurate. The Native American’s warred among themselves often. It was not uncommon for one tribe to murder an entire village of their competitors if they wanted land or food. So when settlers came, and the tribe did not like them, they would eliminate that family. Trouble was, there were enough settlers who could write these ghastly experiences down and pass them on. Hence the records that were kept meant evidence of this brutality or method of barter and so forth. You might be interested to know that settlers often bought land from the natives and did not steal it as Hollywood would have us believe. Since money was an unusual commodity for settlers and Indians alike in the early days, the barter system was the usual mode of fair exchange. Hence trading cattle, sheep, crops etc was the currency. Yes, blankets, gunpowder, firearms were part of that system too. Barter is still used today. Anyway, if you go to any state archives, you can find accounts of the Native American/settler interactions.

It’s not a lot of information, but there is an excerpt I read in Empire of the Summer Moon on the Comanche breaking horses. It goes as follows: “…observers were amazed at the Comanche technique of breaking horses. A Comanche would lasso a wild horse, then tighten the noose, choking the horse and driving it to the ground. When it seemed as if the horse was nearly dead, the choking lariat was slacked. The horse finally rose, trembling and in a full lather. Its captor gently stroked its nose, ears, and forehead, then put his mouth over the horse’s nostrils and blew air into its nose. The Indian would then throw a thong around the now-gentled horse’s lower jaw, mount up, and ride away.” Their abilities with horses were just unfathomable. When I do videos like this I would love to talk about this stuff more. I feel obligated to provide context as if people have only ever watched this one video but try to keep it brief so people don’t get annoyed. Maybe I am wrong but I do wonder if people who have watched this series get annoyed when I retread ground like Comanche horsemanship.

That's not a good way to "break" a horse. Their poor horses must have suffered so much.

On Warm Springs Res many wild horses. Mustangs bred with army horses. Sone from the Buffalo soldiers. Larger. Very tough. Run the lava beds, keeps hooves ‘trimmed’. Only catch before spring when they are at weakest. Still only catch a small percentage in the wing traps that funnel to a corral. Tie to a tree. Approach them to choke themselves down trying to get away. Revive them. Goes on a bit. Put a bucket of water just out of reach for a while. Give a little water. Wade in with a piece of chain tied to a rope a few times. “Break” them. Then start riding. Never saw the horses love their owners. Just tolerate them. Took many months to years before every mounting up quit being a mini rodeo. Was fortunate enough to be included in horse drives and rides. Only because of my friendship with the Baptist Home Missionary , Allen Elston, who served there many years.

Someone should research those journals and put the stories in a book. We should preserve these stories for posterity. Too many people today imagine Rousseau's "noble savages" were all living in irenic utopian bliss until the mean old Europeans introduced sin into their garden.

Sounds like a Mexican gang

On a long enough timeline, yes. I would love to. What story from the Iroquois would you like to hear?

Anything with the Michigan tribes I don't know to much about them

@kylestoops1787 I have wanted to read up on the Beaver Wars.

​@datesanddeadguys . Didn't Michigan have Sauk and fox..Illinois alliance? I'm waiting for Seminole wars

@@datesanddeadguys Shawnee

One big commonality is that they both liked to use fire.

If a fight is fought fairly, respect is gained for your enemy, not just for having the guts to go toe to toe, but for battling well, with honor... Especially the way it ends, win or lose, with adrenaline flowing, people can be at their worst either way. If not, I can absolutely see friendship resulting. If not, more credit to em!

I was actually reading about this the other day. Obviously, a really short version but it is likely that the plains tribes still viewed the buffalo territory as the best place to be. Hunting then would have looked different. On horseback, riders could run along side the buffalo and hit them with their arrows or lances. On foot it was trickier. There are examples of cliffs being used to run buffalo over. Hundreds may have died at a time. It would have been very wasteful as the meat would spoil far before it could ever be used. There would be far too many pelts to process. But those successful hunts would lead to times of plenty. The horse changed everything.

@@datesanddeadguys This is true. You'd laugh at the apologists and the excuses they'll make for a lot of these behaviors. I've read people saying the buffalo runs were GOOD because it provided food for all the other animals in the area.

I suppose if you were a wolf in the area you would appreciate the carrion. One aspect of Buffalo runs that is super neat is spontaneous combustion. Something to do with the decay would sometimes lead to the rotting bodies to catch fire and there are cliffs with scorch marks to this day. Would have been something to see. Smell probably wasn’t great.

@@alxra You don't need an "excuse" for it, since there is a valid reason called "survival".

Oy! Strange though, I was thinking whilst watching, if my hair would damn me or save me? Not just with the Comanche but others.