David Miscavige's First And Only Media Interview | Ted Koppel
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Күн бұрынDavid Miscavige's first and only media interview was with Ted Koppel on Nightline, live on Feb 14, 1992.
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Outline
0:00 - Introduction
1:01 - Time magazine: The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power
1:52 - Bad press
2:31 - Interview Intro Package #1
4:07 - The Int Base & Golden Era Productions
4:49 - Heber Jenztsch: President of the Church of Scientology
5:36 - Ken Rose
5:47 - The OCA Personality test
6:34 - Courses, auditing & the E-meter
7:04 - Critics of Scientology
7:16 - Richard Behar
7:33 - Dr. John Finucane
8:56 - Ken Rose
9:27 - Roxanne Friend
10:37 - Denials and accusations
11:02 - David Miscavige interview teaser
11:13 - Interview Intro Package #2
11:24 - L. Ron Hubbard on camera (1966)
11:42 - L. Ron Hubbard's background
12:24 - Dianetics and psychiatry
13:31 - Hubbard visits the Van Allen radiation belt
14:08 - Hubbard tells Scientology's confidential OT 3 story about Xenu
14:52 - Roxanne Friend: Auditing Body Thetans on the OT Levels
15:07 - Scientology's confidential OT Levels
15:46 - L. Ron Hubbard dies
16:16 - Richard Behar gets "fair gamed" by Scientology
16:45 - Scientology's "Fair Game" policy
17:07 - Vicki Aznaran - former Chairman of the Board RTC
17:53 - More denials and accusations
18:26 - David Miscavige interview begins
19:01 - Miscavige responds to the intro packages
19:44 - Cult Awareness Network
20:14 - Miscavige & Scientology are the ones getting harassed
23:35 - Why would I want to be a Scientologist?
26:53 - Scientology is interested in folks who have money
27:41 - Scientology is the largest social reform group in the entire world
28:52 - Scientology & psychiatry
31:12 - Undermining L. Ron Hubbard's credibility
33:42 - Miscavige lies about not knowing the context of Hubbard's Van Allen belt quote
35:06 - More about Scientology's war on psychiatry
35:44 - Siberia USA
37:05 - Psychiatry retaliates against Scientology
38:22 - Miscavige accuses FDA of murdering a Scientologist
39:55 - Why Miscavige accepted the interview with Ted Koppel
41:13 - Scientology's response to the TIME magazine article
42:24 - Miscavige accuses Richard Behar kidnapping conspiracy
45:17 - Miscavige accuses Richard Behar of working for Eli Lilly
47:21 - How far can the poor progress in Scientology?
49:36 - What does Scientology do that's different?
52:31 - How is the E-meter used in auditing?
55:49 - Could Miscavige audit Ted Koppel on-air?
56:20 - Using clay while studying
57:40 - Why is Scientology so expensive?
58:29 - Vicki Aznaran
1:00:49 - Roxanne Friend
1:01:25 - Miscavige lies about only using Scientologist doctors
1:02:16 - The Sea Organization & attacks on Scientology
1:04:43 - Miscavige admits to being personally involved with internal investigations
1:05:21 - Miscavige accuses critics of being coordinated
1:06:32 - Miscavige claims Dianetics cured his asthma
1:07:42 - Narconon attacked by psychiatry
1:09:37 - Earth's vested interests are threatened by Scientology
1:09:57 - What is a Clear?
1:11:29 - Why is Scientology a religion?
@user-kv6wh6ez5w 5 ай бұрын
The worst thing that could have happened to Scientology was the Internet.
@GhostofJamesMadison 4 ай бұрын
Frfr
@Vulhala 4 ай бұрын
Yep. The ability to communicate widely. The irony 😂
@bandlehars 4 ай бұрын
It’s a great information tool for the victims though.
@bandlehars 4 ай бұрын
@@KH-3414 It’s a good information tool, but it still will not help them find his wife or prosecute the establishment for all of their crimes against people.
@bandlehars 4 ай бұрын
@@KH-3414 ughh….because people were said to have been held captive and unable to leave. That’s kidnapping. I don’t see anyone prosecuted for this. Or held accountable by any other means or measures.
@arghyetlol 8 ай бұрын
For a man so opposed to Psychiatry, he's the perfect candidate for an evaluation.
@TheNinnyfee 8 ай бұрын
For people opposed to psychiatry they are awfully interested in controlling people's minds.
@teeellecee 8 ай бұрын
Narcissistic people rarely seek out therapy. And even if they do, they are rarely self-aware enough to actually change.
@polkadotsuzanne9306 8 ай бұрын
Hilarious
@LerwickH 8 ай бұрын
@@teeelleceeso true
@ky9933 7 ай бұрын
He tried to be a psychiatrist and the officials told him he didn't qualify, so like the child he perpetually was he made his OWN version of mental issue health and vilified the (actually effective) psychiatry.
@c.s.christopher5801 5 ай бұрын
I’m amazed how similar David’s mannerisms is to Tom Cruise’s. It’s like Tom admired this man so much and spent so much time with him, he adopted his whole shtick.
@benjaminblumberg1335 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing while watching this...
@aronrosas4191 3 ай бұрын
They actually believe their doppelgangers of each other, there's a bizarre practice in scientology where members have "twins".
@zonefitzgerald 2 ай бұрын
Bingo. This is exactly what I felt - Tom Cruise in a other body and a different face, basically.
@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord 2 ай бұрын
It is called twinning and it is directly from mk ultra trauma based mind control with also includes Satanic Ritual Abuse! See Jessie Czebotar @@aronrosas4191
@jamiemccornack5770 2 ай бұрын
I thought the exact same thing before coming across this comment, so I had to weigh in.. it's actually scary. And I actually like Tom cruise, but I'm also aware that he's a nutball.. brainwashed by the CULT of scientology
@jackklenk4352 4 ай бұрын
“I’m perfectly happy. What can Scientology do for me?” “It isn’t for you then.” Seems legit.
@Malthus 4 ай бұрын
Hands down the best "gotcha" moment in the interview. Just like any other cult, and above anything else, Scientology prays on people's weaknesses.
@evanstein3011 3 ай бұрын
But 48:02 "This is the right religion for anybody." Lol
@joesmith-em2cd 3 ай бұрын
@@evanstein3011😂😂😂😂
@youtbe999 2 ай бұрын
In the case of a wealthy celebrity ted Koppel, the real question becomes: Don't ask what scientology can do for Koppel, ask what Koppel can do for scientology.
@karenleemallonee684 2 ай бұрын
😂
@lionharpmusic Жыл бұрын
“Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
@janetmcarthur5257 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't have any wealth---or political power, ability to sentence people to his own private prison, or the ability to physically beat anyone with his own hands as punishment---that people haven't willingly given him.
@nosuchthing8 Жыл бұрын
Jan 6
@gr8oone007 Жыл бұрын
men can get pregnant
@janelleabbott2227 Жыл бұрын
Lil man syndrom.....this is what David Miscavidge is suffering from. I can also see he becomes angry easily. Whydoesnt &e ask David Miscavidge where he gets his $ from? How does he live. He says over and over again I don't take any $ check with the IRS. Well then why is he a millionare?
@fbg5678 Жыл бұрын
Love the quote.
@LuigiMordelAlaume Жыл бұрын
Man, the good ol' days when news included investigative journalism.
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
@sandihill Жыл бұрын
How true that 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting
@wordsleuth992 Жыл бұрын
I know - that was truly fascinating. And the interviewer was brilliant… I wish I knew his reputation or had seen him before!!!
@RMBlake007 Жыл бұрын
@@wordsleuth992 Ted Koppel is a legendary journalist...in the 80's and 90's perhaps one of the worlds best known news anchors (ABC - Dateline) 42 years, many awards for his work, in a day when journalistic integrity was everything. They don't make them like that anymore.
@michaelkepesky5635 24 күн бұрын
the eyes don't lie!! His eyes are filled with Contempt and Rage!!
@kaechan9590 8 күн бұрын
He's a well known abuser
@Uarehere 4 ай бұрын
Remember when journalists used to be skeptical of con artists rather than propping them up? We need more people like Ted Koppel in this world!
@kiwe3546 4 ай бұрын
I don’t pay attention to the media. What con artists do they prop up?
@commonsensical9409 4 ай бұрын
@@kiwe3546 Joe Bidan
@Brainbaskit 4 ай бұрын
You're referring to tucker Carlson?; They are literally entertainment, and have used that claim to defend themselves against defamation in court, brainiac.
@thomasluby1754 3 ай бұрын
@@Brainbaskit Not "literally" dum, dum. One of the definitions of literally is NOT "Use for emphasis". So annoying and uneducated.
@harrycgrace4504 3 ай бұрын
Ted is a damn biased hack for the democrats.
@skiddi_botti Жыл бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige.
@skiddi_botti Жыл бұрын
@Hannah Bride like clones of each other. Very creepy indeed.
@tomschmitz261 Жыл бұрын
think, this is the man, tom cruise, who worships him, salutes him and emasculates himself for over 30 years to miscavige! who calls miscavige, the leader of his "religion" his best friend (who in reality in laughing behind his back and using him), and who seemingly does not understand that a religious leader HAS no best friend because it's improper, immoral and unethical to treat any member above other members. And i'm pretty sure most "religious leaders" do not hang out doing all kinds of non religious activities with a member like attending car races, riding motorcycles together, and so on. And i'm pretty sure most "religions" don't have "handlers" to "handle' a member by giving them access to their professional and personal life...
@brianwalsh1401 Жыл бұрын
@Hannah Bride Both of them are narcissist.
@Dorothysslippers Жыл бұрын
i imagine they read these comment together and are really flattered
@hex00ffff Жыл бұрын
Omg I was thinking that too. Thought maybe it was just me.
@ninasteil7315 Жыл бұрын
Can totally see why Miscavage no longer does interviews. He comes across as a complete nut job. I’m sure he hates that this interview is on KZfaq for anyone to watch at anytime. Kind of makes me smile.
@theloanranger2632 Жыл бұрын
Miscavige did a pretty damn good job for a first time interview that was also on live tv. You're just jealous
@benjaminhawthorne1969 Жыл бұрын
At least he did not jump up and down on Ted's desk! 😂
@Sanctified57 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I think he comes across very well
@BeeLZBeeb Жыл бұрын
He’s the kind of man who sounds good to those who are already taken in, if not by Scientology then by other systems and beliefs that use these tactics. I feel for those people because they don’t understand how easily taken in they are. He comes across as a bully and narcissist who is comfortable in the centre of his web.
@funny3scene Жыл бұрын
@@Sanctified57 you come across as an insane brainwashed cultist for defending him
@HighVibes4All 4 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel gave a masterclass on the correct way to interview someone.
@thomasluby1754 3 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about a Masterclass but he did a good job. Very calm and relaxed while Miscavige was intense and anxious.
@ytuser_3122 Ай бұрын
@@thomasluby1754I didn’t even know that, Miscavige acts like his BFF Tom Cruise in that 2000s interview he did with Matt Lauer where he hates on Brooke Shields
@richardsantanna5398 22 күн бұрын
He did a horrible job. He's wouldn't stop interrupting and let David finish a sentence.
@rossginn1171 10 күн бұрын
He sure did!!
@rossginn1171 10 күн бұрын
@@richardsantanna5398 I just happened to read your message within the first 15 minutes of this interview and if you think interrupting someone in an interview maybe a handful of times over a 60 minute timeframe is out of line,,,well that’s pretty normal. To be clear I could care less one way or the other regarding Scientology and pretty much all religions.
@freethinker13 3 ай бұрын
It’s so crazy how David’s wife has been missing for 17 years and no one cares👀 David also hiding out. I don’t know how Scientology is still active.
@t.h.337 3 ай бұрын
They are active because of $. Paying the law off. Selling absolute bullshit to people at a high price so that they can. $ really is the root of all evil.
@japonte173 3 ай бұрын
they’re just insanely secretive and reclusive. people report shelley missing and LAPD investigates and says she isn’t missing, so unless scientology controls the entirety of the LAPD i think it’s more logical to assume they have their own insane reclusive church thing going on and she never leaves wherever she is.
@MegaasAlexandros 2 ай бұрын
She's not missing, she's been sighted and spoken to.
@berzerkfury1459 28 күн бұрын
@@japonte173or high ranking officers are members??
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
@@japonte173LAPD said they spoke to her and she's fine. People need to let it go.
@ChrisMhiclochlainn Жыл бұрын
You can easily see why David Miscavige has only done one interview. To a Scientologist he probably sounds like a strong defender of their faith, to the average viewer he sounds like an incoherent, accusatory, paranoid, question dodging politician. Thank you Aaron for uploading the entire interview for our entertainment, Miscavige’s accusations are just wild!
@mariannerivera2720 Жыл бұрын
HECIS DISGUSTING, HE'S NOTHING BUT A CON, A SNAKE OIL SALESMEN HE IS SO FULL OF IT, SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER CON PSYCHOPATH TRUMP!!
@terricarroll9679 Жыл бұрын
...and arrogant, rude, and obnoxious.
@ronilittle7028 Жыл бұрын
@@wlm4981 YES! Sounded EXACTLY like Tom Cruise! UNBELIEVABLE! Even the body language! Wow!
@captainfancypants1877 Жыл бұрын
@@ronilittle7028 Chicken and egg...or does TC sound like him?
@mrjohnklake Жыл бұрын
@@terricarroll9679 I was thinking narcissistic which includes those traits
@guitaoist 11 ай бұрын
“Convince me why I should be a scientologist” “Because you love yourself” Straight out of cult leader 101
@TheNinnyfee 8 ай бұрын
Always addressing the ego and hoping that it is unchecked.
@shellymorey1732 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@steve-0493 4 ай бұрын
I can help you,and u will benefit, but I benefit more off u and the others that Hear the exact same message, regardless of the way the 'individual ' hears!!at the end of the fucking cycle/season/day,I will benefit off the stepping stones aka..PEOPLE.. notice that whoever speaks the religion, whoever has this power,accumulates more power,more money,now MORE POWER.. Answer:every single fucking 'religion ' conceived...dont ever come at me about bad and hell,cause while living, I have experienced hell,at my own fault,an with other folks on MY journey..and I still acknowledge that somewhere out there-SOMEONE HAS IT BETTER THAN YOU!!AAAANNNNNDDD SOMONE HAS IT WORSE THAN YOU!! ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS,IF U HATE UR LIFE,OR LOVE IT LOL..ALWAYS...SOME ARE BETTER OFF,SOME ARE WORSE OFF!! Find this balance, accept/respect YOUR own Thread!!threads are different, despite this same 'look'...that's us..threads...some feel weak enough to sacrifice family,money,love,children,ANYTHING to feel what??Important???EARTH IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT U WILL BE IMPORTANT (in ur head)COMPARED TO THE ENDLESS.....VASTNESS....OF SPACE.....smile and be insignificant!!!😂🤷♂️✌️😑🍻💯🤔🙃
@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru 4 ай бұрын
Same as christianity... creepy
@lizmiller3325 4 ай бұрын
He is the most dangerous cult leader I have ever seen. And trust me I have seen a few. The fact that he is still in control is sickening. I think he murdered the leader. He is a sick sick man
@lasernatoo0 6 ай бұрын
For anyone curious, Miscavige learned that the show would be split up into two parts right before the interview was about to happen. Fearing that they would style their questions in the first part of the show to make him look bad in the second part, "Miscavige grabbed [Nightline's exec producer] by the shirt collar, pushed him against the wall, and screamed in his face, “YOU LIED! You’re trying to fuck me over! You handle this or we’re all walking out!”" They caved to his demands, showed him the pre-recorded segments, and aired them at the top of the show. This is from a memoir by Mike Rinder, who escaped Scientology after working for decades in its top ranks. Really interesting read.
@avatarion 4 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious they were doing everything in their power to make him look bad. The media has always been that way. For decades they've now tried to make every right-wing commentator look also bad.
@klaytonpeterson 4 ай бұрын
Rinder Rocks !!...
@kiwe3546 4 ай бұрын
That just makes Miscavige sound like a badass.
@NoodlesWithLipstick 4 ай бұрын
@@kiwe3546Makes him sound like an immature toddler.
@Frip36 4 ай бұрын
So he didn't take an of the many sly tricks the networks are known for? Sound like my kinda guy.
@garageshredded 4 ай бұрын
I can’t stop laughing imagining that Miscavige is standing the entire interview.
@tjmackie4815 4 ай бұрын
Don’t understand how this isn’t the top comment
@egbertpladdet9093 4 ай бұрын
Lol
@missmew5240 4 ай бұрын
This!🙌🤣
@roxieolemeda3196 3 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha 😊 That's a good one
@Nozarks1 3 ай бұрын
I don’t get it
@xpatzorsx Жыл бұрын
God, you can just tell in his eyes that he wants to pitch a fit and yell or try to hit Koppel. He knows he can't, and it's throwing him off. He isn't in his controlled environment where everyone lets him do whatever he wants. He's a spoiled brat that's finally run into someone that isn't having his bullshit. It's wonderful.
@wooshbait36 9 ай бұрын
Okay mister psychologist, didn't recognize you in KZfaq comments
@MCO18 9 ай бұрын
And he’s not given another interview since
@thinktankcritic5267 9 ай бұрын
You are full of BS. See what in his eyes exactly? You must be psychic lol 😂
@upfront2375 9 ай бұрын
He's under pressure.. so of course he's gonna look crazy! We've all been there, except for it wasn't on TV heheh
@xpatzorsx 9 ай бұрын
@@upfront2375 1) Are you actually sticking up for David Miscavige?? 2) PLENTY of other people who aren't used to being on camera have been under a similar or more intense level of scrutiny on camera and haven't acted that way. It's also important to note that he's trying to promote a belief system(essentially a for-profit church) that's supposed to provide people with the ability to handle any hardship and is falling apart because of high school level critical thinking questions.
@eternalpeaceandjoy Жыл бұрын
I’m not even sure how anyone could listen before coming to the obvious conclusion: David is nuts. It’s all in the eyes.
@shantishanti1949 8 ай бұрын
and even thee is a little strange.
@sandypatty19 8 ай бұрын
Tom Cruise has the same eyes
@user-xe4bk8zs8y 8 ай бұрын
Glad you noted the eyes. I just wrote a comment then resumed watching and took note of his eyes..was so struck by what is there I was about to make a 2nd comment but decided to read comments to see if anyone else sees it. Glad you did and hope others see it too cuz it is really profound. ? for you..nuts or evil? You can guess my opinion.
@eternalpeaceandjoy 8 ай бұрын
@@user-xe4bk8zs8y both!
@genevabecker8441 8 ай бұрын
I'm a secular retired therapist...when I listen to these conversations I can only conclude that the reason that Scientologists so fear therapy is because they believe that you will diagnose them, or they may have to consider the possibility that maybe they are a little crazy (that is the professional term ;) ) when, in fact, in my experience EVERYONE is a little crazy, including myself...:)
@michaelmcdonald9847 5 ай бұрын
David just sounds like a really good defense lawyer, which is essentially what he is
@Alex-me3yn Ай бұрын
he is quite literally on the cutting edge of the law beyond that of a lawyer who passed the bar, he blurs the line between cartoon bond villan criminal enterprise and formally registered tax entity and somehow continues to survive for decades
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
A lawyer and/or politician
@jaaxxone 26 күн бұрын
Decades after this expose came out and still not one politician or gov't body has done jack s**t. At the minimum their tax exempt status should be rescinded. And in an ideal scenario there would be jail time.
@dugongsdoitbetter Жыл бұрын
What saved me from Scientology when I was young??? I had and have zero follow through and never finish anything I start. Super grateful for this shortcoming now.
@JasonSmith-jr7jh Жыл бұрын
!!!!!!!!!!!!!😂
@solitary-sun Жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to leave your comment unfinished
@TheEsotericLeftist Жыл бұрын
Hey twin
@neanda Жыл бұрын
🤣 abilities some consider to be unnatural, but are actually useful
@joshua-nf3rx 11 ай бұрын
Love it man!! Keep going 100 percent ! Ooopppsss I mean 50 percent !
@lesliewells1062 Жыл бұрын
I love it how Ted Koppel is not letting David Miscavige steam roll over him no matter how hard he tries to. How many lies can one person tell per minute?
@micahmcallister5554 Жыл бұрын
How many minutes is this video 😂
@wallywam1 Жыл бұрын
Ted Koppel is an SP 😂
@lesliewells1062 Жыл бұрын
Aren't we all?
@marshaweinstein9861 Жыл бұрын
I'm tempted to say that DJT can tell more lies per minute, but this video is old, Miscaviage has had a long time to practice. Maybe they're on par.
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@TizerisT. 2 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel is/was a master interrogator. Such a classic gent but when he's probing you and reading you, quite intimidating.
@thereturnofthemac 5 күн бұрын
he never lets David finish anything. Constantly cutting him off when he doesn't like the answer or its not being answered in a couple of sentences.
@zeldahopper 3 ай бұрын
I have low-key anxiety just listening to him gaslight. Total maniac.
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
Then stop listening.
@Jedi_Mind_ 4 күн бұрын
😅😂🤣 Make it plain brother minister !!
@astreaward6651 9 ай бұрын
David Miscavige: "Scientology cured my asthma!" Also David Miscavige: Wheezing throughout the entire interview.
@Njr81 9 ай бұрын
I noticed that early on with him also.
@marie_h1104 9 ай бұрын
Noticed that as well.
@roxieolemeda3196 9 ай бұрын
I know right 👉 😁
@shantishanti1949 8 ай бұрын
no wheezing heard by me - get your ears checked !
@astreaward6651 8 ай бұрын
@@shantishanti1949 On your authority alone? LOL Okay, boomer.
@mayscough72 Жыл бұрын
For me as a Brit these old school American news presenters and journalists were untouchable
@cookiechaser126 Жыл бұрын
How they are introduced after commercial is nostalgic
@qprfan1977 Жыл бұрын
@@cookiechaser126 uupiii😊ppppipp😊ipi😊ppuj. U have have to to get get back back from i
@ethanwashoe5868 Жыл бұрын
That interviewer is also British born but grew up in america
@TaylorTrask Жыл бұрын
Sadly, we no longer produce real journalists.
@JamesC1981 Жыл бұрын
@@ethanwashoe5868 yes i was gonna say also
@jamesanderson6351 5 ай бұрын
Amazing interview by a Ted Koppel. I believe Ted had the right personality for this task. Never allowed feelings or emotions dictate this interview. Classic example of being outsmarted.
@JonnM 4 ай бұрын
This guy is absolutely nuts. There is no lie too great that this Miscavige won’t spout.
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
Bidens twin
@angela1984a 11 ай бұрын
"It never ceases to amaze me how much Tom Cruise talks like Miscavige." I approve this message.
@mr.niceguy1498 10 ай бұрын
It’s like they are twins!
@CarlaLou-ov8yc 10 ай бұрын
I’m sure you do approve
@angela1984a 10 ай бұрын
@@CarlaLou-ov8yc And how about you "CarlaLou"?... Are you a troll/bot paid for by the Cult and Complete and Utter Delusion that is 'scientology'?...
@bvdsovereign1553 9 ай бұрын
Tom imitates him or he toms🤔
@Charles-in3zt 8 ай бұрын
In the motion picture industry it is widely known Tom Cruise is of very poor intelligence.
@yellowblanka6058 Жыл бұрын
30 years after this damning feature, and not only have there been no investigations/arrests, but Scientology is still allowed to operate in the United States. Mind boggling.
@kareem8533 Жыл бұрын
The question is: How can Biden still be "operating".
@tomschmitz261 Жыл бұрын
money talks and bullshit walks... they have bribed and have their fingers in the i.r.s., various police forces (lapd), and other authorities and politicians...add in our WAY OVERBOARD freedom of religion amendment and there you go!
@happydayz7857 Жыл бұрын
Because the line is still drawn at ‘freedom of religion’ when it should be classified as a criminal organization subject to the RICO act.
@tomschmitz261 Жыл бұрын
@@happydayz7857 true... unfortunately, in this country, "freedom of religion" seemingly is more important than anything even illegality!
@2shel171 Жыл бұрын
...as a non-profit....tax free corporation
@JR-xf3cu 6 ай бұрын
If you think of a Miscavige like the CEO of a business, he really doesn’t sound too dissimilar from any other. The way he sells / defends his product.
@Mark-lj1dj Ай бұрын
It kind of reminds me of that guy who was a spokesman for the fast food industry in supersize me. Just constantly trying to skirt the truth and bend the facts. "If you're poor how do you progress in scientology?" "Well anyone who practices scientology isn't poor for very long, they're very successful"
@guydreamr Ай бұрын
Studies have shown that CEO is one of the professions with the highest numbers of psychopaths.
@maxsmith695 11 күн бұрын
He is a high school dropout. Mostly a slick talker.
@guydreamr 11 күн бұрын
CEOs are one of the professions with a high percentage of psychopaths.
@guydreamr 11 күн бұрын
CEOs are one of the professions with a high percentage of people who have antisocial personality disorder.
@jjbeersydney Ай бұрын
For a guy who says “let me tell you” an unbearable number of times, he tells us curiously little … 🙄
@ChristianNewsandInterviews 11 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel retained control of the interview. He was a master of interviews.
@ChristianNewsandInterviews 11 ай бұрын
P.S. - WHERE is Shelley Miscavige?
@TDOLLA 9 ай бұрын
haha Ted Koppel was the real deal. You can really tell David Miscavige is a man used to having the final word and used to being in charge. You can almost see flames in his eyes anytime Ted cut him off or pushed back.
@roxieolemeda3196 9 ай бұрын
@@TDOLLAHe's a little bully I guess he's assaulted people physically 😮
@stephanie-atarahrose.8149 8 ай бұрын
Testosterone levels are plummeting nowadays. Relates to communication.
@anastasiarose9003 8 ай бұрын
I noticed he squeezed his hands together a few times to maintain control.
@speakingofcouragepodcast8437 Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice how eerily similar his communication style is to Tom Cruise? Eye contact, aggressive posture, etc. they definitely train these people
@daakrolb Жыл бұрын
Good point. CULT-Y.
@aujuliawod Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing! Just like Tom Cruise!
@DamienDrake Жыл бұрын
That was one of the most disturbing things about this interview.
@jamesmclennan666 Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@shellybuttrum8869 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how similar TC and DM mannerisms are.
@MrSchelling 5 ай бұрын
Ted: What can scientology can do for me? Miscavige: I will tell you, but first sign the contract for a billion years!
@CaBr. 6 ай бұрын
This gives me "At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it" - vibes.
@canadianhappyinitalytruest6556 3 ай бұрын
Ha ha! Yes miscavige is like a prep school billy Madison! Ha ha ha!!
@viridianhughes219 Ай бұрын
💯
@1trumantucker1 9 ай бұрын
The ability to say so much without actually saying a thing is a remarkable talent...
@edpoe1108 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've always had a little bit of respect for individuals that are able to to that and remain composed and confident. I don't like them or what they're doing, but it is impressive on some level.
@alainlalonde 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Ted really didn't let him finish most points. I was interested, but he kept interrupting and steering it. "Well get back to that in a moment", but he mostly doesn't... weird.. Seems pretty full of himself to be honest.
@thorinbane 5 ай бұрын
J Peterson agrees
@MrMiar94 5 ай бұрын
@@alainlalondewhat points? 😂😂😂
@qwargy 5 ай бұрын
It’s called sophistry I believe
@adamortiz1414 11 ай бұрын
Miscavige is frightening. He and Tom Cruise have a similar quietly rumbling, undercurrent of unhinged narcissism just under the surface
@thinktankcritic5267 9 ай бұрын
And what are you .. ? A psychiatrist? A mind reader or a shaman?
@matshagstrom9839 8 ай бұрын
I think both Tom and
@joeanthony7759 7 ай бұрын
@@thinktankcritic5267Don’t need to be any of those to see that.
@mannutdutd 6 ай бұрын
@@thinktankcritic5267people are learning to spot this behaviour, it’s becoming very obvious and transparent… a bit like the reason you’re irritated by it.
@thinktankcritic5267 6 ай бұрын
Now everything has a label on it! Every nuance of behavior every twitch of the eye or eyebrow can be construed as something devious, pathological and falling under a label category .. labeled ..! ? Crazy world
@pattyladd 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know this interview had happened until today, I have watched many interviews in the last few years starting with Leah Remini. She has put a spotlight on this group, and since then it is very difficult to not see something is very very wrong. I hope her lawsuit sheds more light, my heart goes out to the ones who were and are being deceived and victimized.
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
If people want to join their church, let them. That's their choice and their money.
@michaelhughes743 3 ай бұрын
"Why didnt we think of this' - The Mafia
@Iamtierrahogan 8 ай бұрын
The man talks in circles. He answers questions with questions and word salad analogies.
@ianmangham4570 5 ай бұрын
Kamala Harris has studied dave for decades.
@Eyes_dont_Lie 4 ай бұрын
U cant deny he gives irs the finger everyyyyy year though 😂
@Frip36 4 ай бұрын
He was actually articulate and coherent. Whether it was all factual I don't know. But he defended his church about as well as the pope could defend his.
@ArtsyTartsy0 3 ай бұрын
@Frip36 I absolutely disagree with you! Are we watching the same interview? P.S. And uh....no! It was certainly NOT all factual!!!!
@jmpayne333 3 ай бұрын
He’d be a great politician.
@09rja Жыл бұрын
This guy needs to run for something: he's mastered the art of talking forever and not saying anything.
@bkohler89 Жыл бұрын
That's called a politician bro
@Pretermit_Sound Жыл бұрын
@@bkohler89 which is why the OP said he should run for something. Everybody knows that’s called a politician 🫤
@trickortrump3292 Жыл бұрын
@@bkohler89 That was the point of the comment.
@debrabader806 Жыл бұрын
Former Scientologists, who decided to leave, the church, said that David was a sociopath. He actually tortured some people by beating him physically and psychologically. This should be outlawed. In addition to the above claims, another one of the Scientologists that wanted to leave said “ You cannot be poor and be a Scientologist”. Now that’s a real red flag right there Debra Bader.
@nedtaylor1983 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what interests liberals. Why they vote Democrat.
@marydungan6748 5 ай бұрын
His wife hasn't been seen in 15 years and he refuses to say where she is. He's also been said to beat up on people who want to leave. They were all a bunch of nuts They're all a bunch of nuts.
@chellefell1331 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking about her while watching this.... I wonder if she is in witness protection.....
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
@@chellefell1331she's fine.
@YzerWings 4 ай бұрын
He cant even clearly describe why someone would want to be a Scientologist.
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
He's not "selling" it. That's why. You either believe in their system, or you don't. 🤷
@JessicaC. 9 ай бұрын
This is back when journalists still had balls! Back when the media wasn't scared to possibly " hurt feelings " using words. I remember watching this live when I was younger. Ted was a mfn G!
@mattdad8429 8 ай бұрын
The way David kept trying to run the interview and Ted was like "yeah, nah kid" and steamrolled over him was hilarious.
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808 7 ай бұрын
@@mattdad8429Koppel was masterful, wasn't he. I saw this at the time.
@cherylgarry460 7 ай бұрын
The grift. Some people will believe anything.
@dortjuorfu478 7 ай бұрын
You lost me at 'mfn G'
@mattdad8429 7 ай бұрын
@@dortjuorfu478 Sheeeit, she HAD me at mfn G
@swedishgrrl7287 7 ай бұрын
31:26 Miscavige is clenching his hands so tightly his knuckles are white while trying to contain his anger. This was probably the first and last time he tolerated someone challenging him without physical lashing out at them. Such a scary little man.
@Frip36 4 ай бұрын
He seemed like a composed and articulate executive defending himself and his company with vigor.
@Handle19901 3 ай бұрын
lol he was not clenching his hands
@sosa7k169 Ай бұрын
@@Frip36You under every comment defending him😂😭
@user-wp3tf5bu7n 4 ай бұрын
As a retired psychologist l would love to give this man a series of testing. Its amazing what some uneducated people can make out of nothing!!!!
@SlickArmor 4 ай бұрын
Like an E-meter testing? Except one that's AMA approved.
@Frip36 4 ай бұрын
Meanwhile your profession changes it's fundamental views on what is healthy and normal vs. detrimental and demented, depending on the political winds.
@gingerbee6719 3 ай бұрын
He is simply a con man, lots of them out there. He just hit the jackpot on the biggest Scam under the guise of Religion...haha mixing Science & Religion is such an Oxymoron....😂
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
@@Frip36exactly.
@rockingroby6060 2 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel is the best in the business. I've been a fan 45 years.
@joelfernandez536 8 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel was an absolute boss here
@CarlPanzram-pt6qu 4 ай бұрын
Keep your mouth shut
@ModernSunlight Жыл бұрын
Miscavige did a great job of displaying the need for quality mental health....wow.
@Th3Downz 10 ай бұрын
Don't give this little goblin any credit. Any humanity he shows is just an act. He doesn't give a shit about you or anyone else... he wouldn't run a cult that strips people of their money promising answers otherwise
@loyisog4795 9 ай бұрын
Excuse me??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Amy.PCB.home. 8 ай бұрын
Why do they call themselves a church when they don't believe in God. It's a successful cult which is scary. I worked for a bookstore years ago and remember LRon Hubbards's bks in the science fiction section. It is a testimony to the ignorance of many people that a scifi writer would become a rich cult leader.
@genevabecker8441 8 ай бұрын
LOL
@genevabecker8441 8 ай бұрын
@@Amy.PCB.home. They call themselves a church so they won't have to pay taxes...
@markherden4660 4 ай бұрын
Yo when he said "space planes" and described them as literal DC 8s but just with space propulsion I literally burst out laughing on the bus, drawing the stares of the others. What a story.
@t0m_mcc Ай бұрын
This is what Scientologists actually believe
@scottmccaffrey6155 4 ай бұрын
“Scientology is so good it doesn’t need a sales pitch”, he says. That is every salesman’s pitch.
@laurarominger2073 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish there was a Ted Koppel today. He was the best.
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻
@jackieblue9536 Жыл бұрын
He died???
@cotati76 Жыл бұрын
@@jackieblue9536 he’s still alive but he retired ages ago.
@carissalamkahouan699 Жыл бұрын
@@cotati76 actually he did a piece talking with Trump supporters pretty recently
@cotati76 Жыл бұрын
@@carissalamkahouan699 he did? I’ll have to find it and watch it. I haven’t seen him in ages.
@kelleymcbride4633 Жыл бұрын
It's clear why this cult leader stopped doing interviews. You can hear the lawyers pulling thier hair out listening to him spew this nonsense. This is a man who is used to being agreed with 100% of the time. Thanks for the upload!
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Жыл бұрын
Consummate Yes man for sure!!
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@micahmcallister5554 Жыл бұрын
That’s a good point. He exists In his own bubble.
@lisanewman5378 Жыл бұрын
@@LadyPamela63 While I definitely hope not, I don't believe Shelly is still alive.
@wordsleuth992 Жыл бұрын
@@lisanewman5378 I don’t either. They may have someone speaking for her, until I see her in person I’m afraid she is not with us.
@stanfordhiga2135 5 ай бұрын
This was a wild interview. Beyond me how this cult is still around
@kiwe3546 4 ай бұрын
Considering Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are still around after thousands of years, why would it be beyond you that another cult has lasted decades.
@halimasari9615 3 ай бұрын
@kiwe3546 those other religion don't rob, abuse and enselave you like scientology tho.
@craig5222 3 ай бұрын
@@halimasari9615dedicate 2 years of your life to an American “mega church.” You’ll be unpleasantly surprised
@albertupardsnipec5988 Ай бұрын
First time hearing Mr Miscavige, very impressed, makes many interesting points and valid criticisms of societal norms.
@GrowingUpInScientology Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@VerdadTruth Жыл бұрын
Mr. Koppel gave David the biggest ass whooping without having to move a finger or even get loud. True master of his craft.
@michellestelletos9265 Жыл бұрын
Absolute pleasure to observe a GENUINE journalist. They are extinct in this generation.
@gombocdimensional9050 Жыл бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 wait, are you for real? you do know they've been exposed time and time and again for being fake news right? hell, if you fell their bullshit you're probably the type of person who falls for the scientology con in the first place.
@gombocdimensional9050 Жыл бұрын
@@mustaffa1611 it's a cool concept really, but they edit out the context all the time to make people look worse then they actually are and hell weren't they apart of the whole "stolen election" shit, yeah those losers are very trustworthy...to people who are easily swayed (i.e. those qanon cunts). hell if you consider yourself, a truly intelligent skeptic who doesn't fall for every asshole who caters to you and your beliefs than you should watch timbah on toast's career deep dive on his entire career, all the good and the bad he's done in a balanced and thoughtful way. then you'll fully understand what i mean.
@neuropsychroberts8922 Жыл бұрын
Notice how much time Koppel was given to interview one person on a given topic. TV journalism nowadays is much more formulaic & searching for some sensory driven viewings not uncovering deeper meaning on a topic. When news is profit-driven, we get schlock. Viewers are as responsible as greed journalism for where we are.
@adamseddon2572 Жыл бұрын
Yes I know. Seems an actual genuine and fair interview
@_5_675 Жыл бұрын
No they are not
@soultheinterrogator 5 ай бұрын
Dacid Miscaviage reminds me of an 80's movie villian. Lol
@stefanbernhard2710 2 ай бұрын
Evil Tom Cruise
@moonbeamD Ай бұрын
Giving Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman “American Psycho” vibes
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
I don't think so. I don't agree w his beliefs but he seems sane enough.
@johnsjohnson448 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Koppel was brutally intelligent and truly terrific.
@alfredeneuman6966 Жыл бұрын
Driving in his Mercury arriving at his spaceship, L Ron Hubbard took off for Mars, Starburst, reaching the Milky Way ... he then left the supermarket aisle and took the candy bars home with him and wrote a phantasmagorical story.
@janetmcarthur5257 Жыл бұрын
Nice interview. I would have liked to see him interview groups that are infinitely worse than the Church of Scientology, such as the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
@thomkatt3385 Жыл бұрын
and remarkably patient.
@suzanneblaylock9598 Жыл бұрын
And...? Yes ??
@alwayswatching1650 Жыл бұрын
@@janetmcarthur5257 infinitely worse in what way? Not arguing - genuinely curious.🙂🤔
@mikeseal2266 8 ай бұрын
I can really see why him and Tom Cruise get along so well. They’re like smug maniacal twins.
@thenightporter 4 ай бұрын
I can't stand Tom Cruise. That 💩 he said about Brooke Shields was reprehensible. What an 🍑
@snorttroll4379 4 ай бұрын
What did he say?
@Frip36 4 ай бұрын
They are not smug. They are the opposite of smug. People like to call people smug as a way around calling them an asshole.
@woodyforest7308 Ай бұрын
Boyfriend's
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
@@thenightporterhe was speaking facts
@kridler112 4 ай бұрын
Wish we had more interviewers like this these days
@jessicacarlson9437 4 ай бұрын
I love the guy out there calling them out all the time, in LA.
@Cwho9ss 4 ай бұрын
Streets LA
@jessicacarlson9437 4 ай бұрын
@@Cwho9ss yeah, I love them!!! It’s so sad to see these videos tbh…. The one guys lip could not have gone down any further if he tried! It was like a baby ready to cry! Weird & wild ish!
@mutestingray Жыл бұрын
The brilliant thing Ted did was to keep him talking. The more he talks, the more insane Dave sounds.
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
💯💯
@matilda4406 Жыл бұрын
good point. Let them talk
@gailheard1524 Жыл бұрын
Dave is a delusional nut.
@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158 10 ай бұрын
The bigger the hole..
@feelinguru-vywiththepaingu9808 7 ай бұрын
@@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158with a huge shovel to dig a hole.
@mmmcoffeetogo Жыл бұрын
I love how David Miscavige struggles through the first question by rambling about how Scientology has made breakthroughs in communication. 😂 The irony is not lost on me.
@toddmastrianna1780 Жыл бұрын
This tool communicates less effectively than a street urchin in Atlantic City
@ericschneider3092 4 ай бұрын
Well, I’m sold…on never joining Scientology. No wonder this is the only interview he’s done
@DavidMichaelCommer 4 ай бұрын
I just began watching this and from the beginning, Ted Koppel says that a lot of people were afraid to speak about Scientology. He and his team deserve credit for airing this story and interview, probably especially his team since Ted's high profile may have given him some level of protection from harassment. I am acquainted with someone who worked for NPR decades ago, and she told me that she got some kind of tip that led her to a naive investigation into Scientology. Soon thereafter, she got bizarre anonymous phone calls and I think also a letter with vaguely threatening comments telling her to cease her investigation immediately. She was unnerved and told her producer about it, and her producer told her to stop the investigation immediately, saying that Scientology is a dangerous organization that harasses journalists and has been linked with deaths of people and that it's best to leave it alone. And so she did, and she was very shaken up. After she dropped it, they stopped harassing her. So the organization stayed largely out of the media for a long time at least in part by intimidating journalists, and any journalist who followed through with any investigation really deserves credit. I can't help but be a little bit amused by Miscavige's claim that an organization that calls itself a cult awareness nerwork is a 'religious hate group.' I do wonder how many people who belong to harmful cults hear the term 'cult' used in reference to their groups and take offense.
@JASPER0007 7 ай бұрын
He's got more Tom Cruise mannerisms than Tom Cruise.
@Francis-xl2gu 6 ай бұрын
They both come out the same mould
@Abrookesong 3 ай бұрын
Came here to say this! They look soo much alike
@toph8298 3 ай бұрын
More like Tom Cruise has adopted David Miscavige mannerisms
@stefanbernhard2710 2 ай бұрын
Same haircut, same impoverished intellect.
@rayannaandrade6337 2 ай бұрын
I think they are lovers
@Rykiz_Vidz Жыл бұрын
David Miscavige looks just like almost any super villain CEO from movies or videogames.
@rossl5908 Жыл бұрын
It's the hair
@ediewall6360 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@eduardonava1291 Жыл бұрын
Watchmen comes to mind
@MCO18 9 ай бұрын
“You know, I’m something of a Scientologist myself”
@ghostpuppolter3207 3 ай бұрын
I like how David was talking about how upset he was that a guy wanted scientologists to get kidnapped and he believes that would be an awful thing to do to a person, to hold them against their will for religious reasons. Where is Shelly, David?
@rangerguy196 4 ай бұрын
He loves using the phrase, “You have to understand”.
@alyxcoe2608 Ай бұрын
A revealing phrase. Prince Andrew used it several times in his disastrous interview. It betrays a feeling on the part of the speaker that they have authority over you and don't want you to think outside the box, and you MUST see things their way.
@MugRuith Жыл бұрын
This guy apparently never heard of childhood asthma. I had asthma as a child, never spoke to a Scientologist or went to their church, and now as an adult I don't have asthma. I guess staying away from Scientology cured me.
@imjoeimjoe Жыл бұрын
Good for you
@fredthomas4916 Жыл бұрын
Mental illness and Scientology l how are we letting this happen it’s worse-than a concentration camp American technology where are you
@fredthomas4916 Жыл бұрын
Diabetes is not real Iam living with people with mental illness you are a criminal org they all will never forget this guy
@miata350 Жыл бұрын
It is truly ironic how a "science-based" religion ignores actual medical science.
@Daydreamer-ok6jj Жыл бұрын
😂
@chickenmonger123 11 ай бұрын
Look at his eyes. You rarely see insanity in such a passive and lucid manner. Yet you can tell it’s lurking in there. Ready to flare into terrible clarity, when that spirit gets tired of riding it’s beast of burden at a trot.
@Amalekites 8 ай бұрын
Its* beast..
@Venus_846 6 ай бұрын
Beautifully said
@KCS-01 6 ай бұрын
Someone passed their English lit with flying colours huh hahah
@Johnny_Thunder 5 ай бұрын
He is somewhat charming and affable but there is something sinister lurking there
@user-pt9tw8fn1r Ай бұрын
The worst thing that could have happened to humanity was the internet. I was born in 1957, am 67, and have been an automation/electronics engineer all my working life, and I think that I know what I'm talking about.
@christid.8912 Жыл бұрын
I love how he sings the praises of "communication improvement" in Scientology, then proceeds to be one of the worst communicators I have ever witnessed.
@alexkasper5029 Жыл бұрын
oh man, ted koppel DESTROYED him with such a calm rational demeanor that just highlighted the mounting defensive paranoia david miscavige was completely unable to hide. i would LOVE for the behavior panel to analyze this interview! they always appreciate an interviewer who is calm, unshakable, and relentless with hard questions. fantastic!
@thescarletgraywitch8052 Жыл бұрын
What is the behavior panel? What am I missing!? As someone with a Master's in behavioral psych that sounds right up my alley.
@alison2649 Жыл бұрын
And I appreciate that Mr Koopel did his homework before this interview
@kmartens8872 Жыл бұрын
@@thescarletgraywitch8052 it’s a you tube channel with 4 body language experts. They analyze different peoples interviews and reactions. It is really good! I highly recommend! Channel is called The Behaviour Panel
@alexkasper5029 Жыл бұрын
@@thescarletgraywitch8052 ooooh they are a great youtube channel! their channel is The Behavior Panel and they are 4 behavior experts who do work for police interrogations and other areas of behavior analysis! they look at body language and statement analysis mostly and it is fascinating! I highly recommend! :)
@alexkasper5029 Жыл бұрын
@@alison2649 seriously! he read the books and everything!
@TinkerBellaMama 26 күн бұрын
Omg the sound of the Nightline starting took me back about 25 years instantly
@stockbridge8 4 ай бұрын
Ugh. That pointing finger! And that RELENTLESS voice. Ted Koppel incredible.
@thomasmaner5652 Жыл бұрын
I am 30 minutes in and I can already see why Dave does not do interviews with the media anymore. This is a train wreck.
@jamoin4310 Жыл бұрын
Brah he was 28 back then and doing his first Tv interview he’s a good talker.
@GrowingUpInScientology Жыл бұрын
💯💯
@thomasmaner5652 Жыл бұрын
@@jamoin4310 at one point he contracted himself! Anyone watching back then would have spotted it.
@MrDavital1 Жыл бұрын
He’s actually very good. Anyone who can’t see that is insane .
@rotem1437 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDavital1 Yup..he is good, this is how he got to the top...and he is a psychopath
@daveowens271 Жыл бұрын
Ted Koppel totally owned Miscavige. This is what happens when the guy who is USED to being the smartest guy in the room, actually has a discussion with THE SMARTEST GUY IN THE ROOM!
@Girlhead Жыл бұрын
He did!! I love it when David said Scientology had been voted the Community Outreach Group of the Year and Ted doesn't miss a beat.. "By Whom?"
@StarCityAudits Жыл бұрын
No, he did not.
@Girlhead Жыл бұрын
@@StarCityAudits Hey- how's the Sea Org these days David?
@joeyholly5259 Жыл бұрын
Correction: the guy who THINKS he's the smartest guy in the room, because he will only allow rooms to be filled with sycophants. This interview was amazing and Ted Koppel is my new hero :)
@Syv_ Жыл бұрын
@@StarCityAudits Found the scientologist!
@jlassonful 5 ай бұрын
the way they smile at each other shows that they both know what it is
@danielgloverpiano7693 Ай бұрын
I used to watch Nightline every night. Now I remember why. Ted Koppel is the best of the best. We need that level of journalism again. He cuts through the BS and gets to the point. This interview just reminds me why all cults are the same. The deeper you dig, the more crazy it is. If people knew from the outset the crazy train they were jumping on, I’m sure they’d jump off immediately. 😮😮😮😮
@mitersangeeta2576 Жыл бұрын
No wonder that was David’s only interview!!! Dude was owned by the legend himself, cool 😎 Ted Koppel!!
@alison2649 Жыл бұрын
Ted really did his homework! Most interviewers don’t
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
David was not prepared to deal with an interviewer so intelligent and knowledgeable of his "church." Ted did his homework AND he was rational and lucid. At the very beginning, Ted saying that he was quite happy with his life, his family, his job, what could the church POSSIBLY have to offer him, and David never really had a concrete answer for him. I have my own issues with psychology and psychiatrists in general. But I am not going to throw them all under the bus because psychology was used as a tool to convince German people the good that could be achieved with the Holocaust.
@CoolGobyFish Жыл бұрын
@@paulcolburn3855 he told him that scientology would make him more productive. it's pretty good answer. but generally, it's pointless trying to get a real answer from a psychopath
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
@@CoolGobyFish yeah I got that part "more productive." But that is an entirely "subjective" answer on what was entirely "objective" reporting. It doesn't really mean anything. I am sure that is the same answer you would get from John Travolta and Tom Cruise, more "productive."
@CoolGobyFish Жыл бұрын
@@paulcolburn3855 well. productivity can be measured. so it's an objective answer. not that I support this cult leader, but he has a pretty good answer for everything (as most psychopath in power)
@Oturtlegirl51 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Koppel teaches a master class on interviewing here. Perfection.
@johnwattdotca Жыл бұрын
If you want to be a Washington bully on television and tell the American people what to think, this is a major American media master class. Ted has bags under bags under his eyes, and that wig!
@sinatra222 Жыл бұрын
@@johnwattdotca found the Scientologist 🤣
@johnwattdotca Жыл бұрын
@@sinatra222 I see you don't like to think at all. Anything else totally stupid to say?
@namename4012 Жыл бұрын
@@johnwattdotca Koppel called out a bully, which Miscavige clearly was then, and still is now. And Koppel was masterful in not letting that little dictator pull any crap. BTW: This episode won an Emmy award.
@johnwattdotca Жыл бұрын
@@namename4012 I'm not surprised the episode won an Emmy, intended to validate the content. You are still wrong, and for someone who can type as an intelligent person I'm surprised you want to keep spouting off lies. Koppel was over-bearing and directive, asking questions but cutting off answers. Miscavige was explanatory, probably too much for the average American, while he was calm and always reasonable. I stress, and you should understand, Scientology isn't a religion or a cult. It's about Science, and yes, it's expensive. What is the life problem you have that makes you such a hater?
@Compassionate108 4 ай бұрын
I deeply admire Ted Koppel's skill at staying on point with his interview, despite David's attempts to deflect every single question. After an entire hour, we still know next to nothing about the philosophy / precepts of the Church of Scientology.
@wages7992 5 ай бұрын
Ted Koppel, wow, when journalist went after the real stories & delivered to the people.
@mikeyg8568 Жыл бұрын
I've met people like him throughout my life. Fast-talking obfuscators that refuse to talk about one particular thing, instead using any type of misdirection they can. He talks fast, he moves onto irrelevant topics, he's accusing everybody of coming after them, it's a fuckin joke
@Mayelito7 Жыл бұрын
Is Ben Shapiro a Scientologist? 😂😂😂 (I know he’s not, but he also uses a lot of the same tactics)..
@Patricialuna8899 Жыл бұрын
It’s called Gaslighting. David Miscavage is an evil con man. Lie after lie.
@anti-ethniccleansing465 Жыл бұрын
@@Mayelito7 Pil pulling is what Ben does.
@jonathanse8977 Жыл бұрын
@@Mayelito7 Well they both push authortian, cult behavior. Both are painfully pious while clearly being b.s artists.
@wedge1977 Жыл бұрын
Plain and simple, Miscavige is a textbook narcissist. Every one of us should run away from anyone who talks and behaves like this. Hang around, and you'll definitely get hurt.
@RyanAustinDean Жыл бұрын
This is how the media should confront ALL corrupt authorities, whether political, corporate, academic, or religious - right, left, and center.
@JohnSmith-yd5wq Жыл бұрын
Well facts don't matter to many. People like to be pandered and lied too.
@cjdayne3033 Жыл бұрын
They absolutely do it to the right, if they would do it to the left with the same energy this country would be in a much better place
@davidhull2426 Жыл бұрын
Breed? Avarice / feudalism....
@barbarakauppi9915 Жыл бұрын
That's supposed to be their very function, their only "raison d'etre", the very key to sustainable democracy, truth, and freedom everywhere. They've all completely sold out now, petty traitors to their own realm.
@isitoveryet9525 Жыл бұрын
@@cjdayne3033 they only do it to someone on the left, if that person dares to go against the narrative….
@cz2165 4 ай бұрын
Miscavige has a sociopathic stare. Scary dude. It is 2023, Where is his wife?
@kalebarancelovic 3 ай бұрын
If this guy handed me a glass of water to drink, I wouldn't drink it.
@__Patrick Жыл бұрын
Miscavige seems terrifying. Can you imagine being trapped in a small space with this wild-eyed man-weasel?!
@loyisog4795 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@mrsx7944 17 күн бұрын
He's 5'3. I'm sure he's not that frightening.
@lulukazhila6309 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great reminder of what great journalism used to look like. The time when journalists would challenge their guests whilst wittingly roasting them like this 🤣
@DustinRodriguez1_0 Жыл бұрын
And also have on a guest that society opposes and detests without getting accused of 'giving them a platform' and inherently supporting them. That scares a lot of interviewers out of being willing to have those sorts of people on to be challenged.
@rebeccaduboise285 Жыл бұрын
Good times. Miss um
@paulcolburn3855 Жыл бұрын
Many (almost all) of journalists who are in the business today got their jobs because #1) they are great looking AND #2) their parents were rich enough that they could afford unpaid internships in the business until they got their first shot. That is it. Looks and money. What journalism does NOT require today (something that Ted Kopel possessed) is intelligence and quick thinking. Ted was able to respond (in turn) to each of David's points. There pretty much isn't a journalist working today that could do that without following a perfectly worded script. They can't think like that because they can't think. In 2002, Katie Couric interviewed Ann Coulter. All Katie could do is ask gotcha questions from a script and when Ann responded (in turn) Katie would dismiss all of Ann's rebuttals with the comment "well I am conducting the interview and I will ask the questions." Katie could never match wits with Ann Coulter (that could never happen) BUT she got her position in the media because of her looks and connections. She can't do any investigative anything, but she made the big bucks. Journalists and reporters, they do not want to be challenged on their own shows. To be challenged might expose the fact either A) they don't know anything or B) they can't think or possibly C) they don't know anything AND they can't think. Those are not pre-requisites' for an industry where the people working in it are focused on looks and money.
@billplaney2585 Жыл бұрын
The journalists who can do this still exist. They just don't have the platforms they once had because media companies have been allowed to conglomerate to ridiculous levels. Serious journalism is not what advertisers want to sponsor. End of story.
@clarecatherine1488 Жыл бұрын
@@billplaney2585 Precisely put.
@lindsay-bay 4 ай бұрын
Could you imagine if in 1992, there was an internet and youtube? He would have been screwed!!!
@Frenchylikeshikes 6 ай бұрын
I think ever since that doc was released, way more defectors have been speaking out and revealing what scientology really is. This is a cult, not a religion.
@GetOutsideYourself Жыл бұрын
Koppel's Emmy came as a result of his incredible ability to keep calm in the face of this madman's insane ramblings.
@SUNSHINE-t-m Жыл бұрын
and legend says Miscavige got a replica because he claims Ted only got it because of how good a job he did explaining himself. lmao
@sandralybrand9425 10 ай бұрын
Well deserved too!
@davidfrey5654 9 ай бұрын
Because he wasn't the one getting attacked. When you're not getting attacked, it's not hard to stay calm.
@thinktankcritic5267 9 ай бұрын
What ramblings you gaslighter? I heard a very coherent man defend his beliefs - whatever they are, regardless of u agreeing or not. Have you even heard a real rambler? Calling an eloquent speaker a madman just shows how inept you are
@lostangeles86 7 ай бұрын
1/2 an hour in and I understand why this was his first and last interview.
@humanbean3 18 күн бұрын
when someone gets angry when you simply and calmly ask for truth, or ask a question, you know they are just trying to maintain some image. they aren't being real. stay away from those people. they know they have a whole laundry list of messed up questionable things that even they themselves don't want to have to talk about or address, so they get angry when someone indeed brings them up. this guy is displaying that and he's the leader of a "religion"..
@jeannafields4483 5 ай бұрын
We are still waiting to find his wife who has been "missing" for a decade😮
@allisonod8575 Жыл бұрын
ted Koppel correcting Davey boy everytime he calls a grown woman a girl is the energy I want to bring to every work meeting
@charleschristianson2730 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with that?
@taratee Жыл бұрын
@@charleschristianson2730 Pretty easy. Calling grown women girls (suggesting she's a child still) is just plain disrespectful
@Rick_Cleland Жыл бұрын
In Northern Ireland we call men and women "Guys" and "Girls" all the time, regardless of age.
@charleschristianson2730 Жыл бұрын
@@taratee No, a girl becomes a woman when her looks fade, usually around age 30. Calling someone a "girl" is a compliment; it implies that she's still young enough to be attractive.
@taratee Жыл бұрын
@@charleschristianson2730 lol okay 👍 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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