David Simon on Treme, New Orleans, the Drug War, Obama, The Wire - And Disappointing Libertarians

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12 жыл бұрын

UPDATED 9/21/2012: On his personal website, David Simon has accused Reason TV of producing a "shanked" interview with him. For links to his criticism, our response, and full audio of our hour-and-20-minute-long conversation with him that formed the basis of this video go to reason.com/blog/2012/09/21/dav...
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"At some point during the run of The Wire, I became a fellow traveler of the libertarians," says the acclaimed writer and television producer David Simon. "And then a great disappointment to them."
A self-proclaimed "lefty," Simon is the creator of the The Wire, which ran on HBO from 2002 to 2008 and depicted with tragic realism the impact of the drug war on inner-city Baltimore. Over five seasons, The Wire told a series of complex, interwoven stories built around major themes of the modern American city, including the decline of the working waterfront, failing schools, faltering newspapers, the unseemly side of local politics, and, more generally, how bureaucratic institutions thwart reform-minded individuals.
In writing The Wire, Simon drew on his 13-years as a reporter at The Baltimore Sun and his 1991 book, Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, which is derived from Simon's stint as an embed with the Baltimore Police Department's homicide division. Producer Barry Levinson later turned the book into an Emmy-award-winning series that ran on NBC from 1993 to 1998.
Simon co-wrote (with David Mills) The Corner (2000), an HBO miniseries that depicts inner-city Baltimore ravaged by the drug trade, and he co-wrote HBO's Generation Kill, a miniseries based on a book by Evan Wright about a Marine Corps unit during the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq.
Simon's blistering indictment of the drug war frames Eugene Jarecki's new documentary on the subject, The House I Live In, and he's an outspoken critic of the state of the newspaper industry. In 2009, Simon testified before the Senate Commerce Committee that shrinking newsrooms imperil our democracy.
HBO's Treme is Simon's latest project, which offers a multi-faceted look at post-Katrina New Orleans and the music scene that makes the city so unique. Treme's third season starts this Sunday on HBO.
Simon was last interviewed in Reason in 2004, and retired Baltimore homicide and narcotics detective Ed Burns, who was Simon's collaborator on The Wire and other projects, was interviewed in Reason in 2008.
Reason.com Editor in Chief Nick Gillespie sat down with Simon last week to discuss Treme, the state of New Orleans, the drug war, President Obama, school choice, private prisons, the newspaper industry, and Simon's antipathy towards libertarians.
Go to Reason.com for a print version of that edited discussion.
About 21 minutes.
Produced by Jim Epstein; shot by Epstein and Meredith Bragg.
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UPDATED 9/21/2012: On his personal website, David Simon has accused Reason TV of producing a "shanked" interview with him. For links to his criticism, our response, and full audio of our hour-and-20-minute-long conversation with him that formed the basis of this video go to reason.com/blog/2012/09/21/dav...

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@ziweiyuan
@ziweiyuan 10 жыл бұрын
Nick Gillespie needs to learn how to shut up and let his subject talk in interviews. It seems you almost never meet a Libertarian who isn't a myopic fanatic.
@tomdoyle2272
@tomdoyle2272 3 жыл бұрын
I think hes a pothole, but the interview is actually good.
@fausto412
@fausto412 10 жыл бұрын
Quality reporting is almost dead. I'm with David Simon on this.
@ellenmeilee
@ellenmeilee 11 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the point DS was making more about the quantity of reporters these days at a paper, than the quality of reporters’ writing?
@kenansinav1
@kenansinav1 10 жыл бұрын
to the interviewer; Let the guy speak
@Saggezzza
@Saggezzza 12 жыл бұрын
"Freedom can never be entirely won, ever but it can be lost"
@TheDevindevine
@TheDevindevine 10 жыл бұрын
Gillespie clearly had an agenda. I know this because he never addressed any of Mr. Simon s points. he just kept on his ,clearly libertarian slanted point. this was not an interview. it was an attack.
@wenders99
@wenders99 10 жыл бұрын
Attack? C'mon, man. Be reasonable. Hyperbole? Indeed.
@zapproowsdower
@zapproowsdower 10 жыл бұрын
There was no attack - it was a clashing of contradictory mindsets. David Simon has a more or less clear mind, Gillespie has a more or less warped mind. He lacks a basic, logical progression from observation to analysis to conclusion so most of his points are fucked.
@wenders99
@wenders99 10 жыл бұрын
I can only hope you recognize the irony in your use of fallacy to reach your conclusion here.
@DaleRobby
@DaleRobby 10 жыл бұрын
You know this because David Simon told you to believe it.
@jackmarting5607
@jackmarting5607 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for everything Mr Simon. from a New Iberia who loves New Orleans
@norFUNKRecords76
@norFUNKRecords76 11 жыл бұрын
You are awesome. Definitely a hero of mine. Great job on Treme! Congrats on such a great show. So sorry it is ending.
@southportjim1
@southportjim1 11 жыл бұрын
Exactly right. He's not talking 'black markets', he's talking outsourcing of prisons. Corporations bid on these contracts and make a healthy profit from them; paying low wages to their employees and providing minimal service. They also profit on sales to inmates in the prison commissaries and charging the inmate's family exorbitant service charges when they send money or pay court costs online. We're in a bad place when high incarceration is 'good for business'.
@EugenTemba
@EugenTemba 3 жыл бұрын
"You might want to reflect on that." I loved that moment. The interviewee is dissing the interviewer half the time and I am loving it.
@mcstratoman
@mcstratoman 5 жыл бұрын
I think this interviewer needs to let the person he chose to interview speak. Simon is clearly the more informed and seems to have less ego going on here.
@mateomoritz
@mateomoritz 11 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is not an interview where people need to get enraged about one side or the other. These guys managed to have an intelligent, productive argument without getting red faced and resorting to one liners like most media these days.
@Numonkei
@Numonkei 8 жыл бұрын
..."I was glad when he died"...the John Gtoodman character...based on fact...this man performing the interview is a sincere example of why many of us are ashamed of our species. And this must be what Simon referred to with the interview with a 'prison union' segue.
@prycelessly
@prycelessly 12 жыл бұрын
Having no knowledge of Simon or his work, I watched the interview without preconception or expectation. You write that Gillespie discusses Simon's "antipathy towards libertarians." After viewing this interchange, it is apparent that Simon's "antipathy" is to Gillespie, above all else. It was an interesting exchange.
@jgribhamnz
@jgribhamnz 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@garethtthomas
@garethtthomas 12 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. David Simon can be a bit defensive sometimes, and he certainly doesn't suffer fools gladly; but he is also very smart, very sharp and very self-aware. More art should follow his lead in seeking truth over preaching - honesty rather than ideology leads to better work, whatever your place on the political spectrum.
@PhyllisMLeblanc
@PhyllisMLeblanc 11 жыл бұрын
Not sure airing date for season finale. We wrapped last week. Usually airs April. But don't quote me on that.:-)
@FirebrandAL
@FirebrandAL 9 жыл бұрын
Uh, who hates this? Honestly. Love the back and forth. Two smart dudes pushing each other. Better off for watching it.
@squinkque
@squinkque 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why Simon thinks Reason railroaded him on this interview. He comes off as a thoughtful, passionate guy. Politically wrongheaded but not idiotic. Gillespie and him spar politely and a little heatedly but nothing gets ugly. I like Simon more after this interview and I disagree with him vehemently on his support of Obama, Holder, et. al.
@dmg46664
@dmg46664 12 жыл бұрын
Great interview! Let's have more of this type, where you're not cross examining the converted.
@PhyllisMLeblanc
@PhyllisMLeblanc 11 жыл бұрын
Loved working with David Simon on "TREME." Great guy. Very intelligent. A Visionary. He sees what many don't and gets it. I am very grateful for the stories being told of New Orleans. I am "Desiree." And it was great doing the series. We wrapped filming Season 4 of "TREME" today and as much as it is the final season for the series, my comfort is that I will have each DVD of the seasons and that is all....
@0v_x0
@0v_x0 9 ай бұрын
Oh hey, you're a legend
@arthousecouch
@arthousecouch 11 жыл бұрын
Read the bottom of the description of the video. This will sum up how this interview went.
@AnBhfacaTuMoBristi
@AnBhfacaTuMoBristi 9 жыл бұрын
The interviewer does a terrible job. This is painful to watch
@justinhand123
@justinhand123 11 жыл бұрын
Nice Ad hom. Really gets the point across.
@PedroSantos-lr2qd
@PedroSantos-lr2qd 2 жыл бұрын
LOVED how Simon responded to the balzacian comment
@Monkeyninjaghost
@Monkeyninjaghost 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It was the best I could do in 500 characters ;)
@ivandesantis858
@ivandesantis858 2 жыл бұрын
David is an important voice and a man of intellect and he loves to point out everything that's wrong with the country but he's too defensive and can't handle criticism of his work.
@MissMalevolent
@MissMalevolent 12 жыл бұрын
Nick has balls...and a lot of patience with that meandering bullshit Simon was shoveling.
@hiramnoone
@hiramnoone 2 жыл бұрын
See what David Mamet thought of Obama's veracity in his declaration of being a Chicago White Sox fan, having claimed to have enjoyed many of their games at "Cominsky Field". When asked who his favorite player was, a newsman running cover for him had to stop him from saying Lew Gehrig.
@holosc
@holosc 10 жыл бұрын
The prison system can only be considered a market force if it happens without ridiculous laws about the usage of drugs in a voluntary fashion. Drug use occurs because of tremendous childhood trauma.
@browsertab
@browsertab 12 жыл бұрын
I like David Simon and I like The Wire. So many HBO/Showtime TV shows are just excuses to slap adult content on the same old soap opera fare. The Wire always explored strong themes in every season - it's really the best series ever.
@BenignCentaur
@BenignCentaur 11 жыл бұрын
David Simon works in TV. His shows live and die by ratings. I think he understands market forces better than most.
@MrBildo
@MrBildo 12 жыл бұрын
David Simon is a wacky guy. It's like he was on the defensive the whole time and I couldn't figure out why. I can't even say that I think guy actually believes a lot of what was saying. Like he's confused or something. Odd interview. Kudos to Nick, as usual.
@sgtmcwallace
@sgtmcwallace 12 жыл бұрын
Regarding both of their print references to Christopher Hitchens on the blog and reason hit and run. Hitch used to speak of how light couldnt come from anything possibly other than heat. The light thrown off here comes from some good heat.
@rightarmofwyoming
@rightarmofwyoming 11 жыл бұрын
"Why Should the Devil Have All the Good Music?" lol.
@BenignCentaur
@BenignCentaur 11 жыл бұрын
If only we could recall memories as a computer processor accesses info from a hard drive. :)
@PhyllisMLeblanc
@PhyllisMLeblanc 11 жыл бұрын
This interview dude seems to "Want" 2 "Seem" Smart. Lol. It shows SO much how intimidated he is of David. Apparently he forgot what David's career was long before this business. Seriously. Do your homework. You MIGHT pass the "Simon",test. And dude is trying to "shank" David.
@ElmarKulke
@ElmarKulke 10 жыл бұрын
this interview got me way much deeper into the american society and poltical habits then any other documentary or schoolbook might have ever gotten me into i guess. thx
@4squaremiles
@4squaremiles 6 жыл бұрын
This video needs more cutaways to Nick nodding and going "uhuh" over the person he's interviewing. And then flashing his name. And the channel he's from. Which is also the one this is literally on. Which is also literally written right below.
@PhyllisMLeblanc
@PhyllisMLeblanc 11 жыл бұрын
I think it was easy to write Hidalgo's character. Jon Seda great guy. Really.
@zombiesingularity
@zombiesingularity 12 жыл бұрын
Great interview with interesting points by David Simon.
@jackcovey1832
@jackcovey1832 9 жыл бұрын
Libertarian interviewer Nick Gillespie despises Creighton (John Goodman) as just a "white liberal", and felt happy when Creighton died? It's hard to take anything Gillespie says after that seriously---intelligent and articulate as he may be.
@jackcovey1832
@jackcovey1832 8 жыл бұрын
Whether or not Goodman's character is fictional or not is beside the point. What this Randian douche is saying --- and what it reveals about himself --- is. Taking pleasure in the death of someone, fictional or not, is indicative of someone who is a jerk in need of counseling. I'm also at a loss as to how and why holding such an opinion makes one "a pussy." Is that calling someone "a pussy" part of some secret, Objectivist inner doctrine of which I'm unaware?
@jedenasty10
@jedenasty10 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack Covey so you were never happy that a character died on screen? not even Darth Vader or someone like that? cmon now dont be silly
@cgtz9526
@cgtz9526 Ай бұрын
That was a really stupid thing to say. John Goodmans character is upset that the goverment has forgotten his city . That isn't a white guilt liberal.
@animejoao
@animejoao 11 жыл бұрын
now that is my kind of interview, you shold colide with the guest in order to achieve a better understanding of the facts and ideals of that person. very interesting to watch.
@cliftonmeans
@cliftonmeans 9 жыл бұрын
Wow.....I came to hear David Simon and I have to sit thru this interviewer interrupting and trying to push his agenda!!! SHUT UP!!!
@kpoff5128
@kpoff5128 11 жыл бұрын
I think it was in regards to pure market forces relating to drugs. In which case, you can’t really use the expression since the drug market is fueled by federal regulation. Pure market forces would represent a market without regulation. I guess, it’s whatever man, I love the wire and generation kill. .
@NinjaHydra
@NinjaHydra 12 жыл бұрын
In response to Simon's comment at 15:38 - privatized prisons combined with the enforcement power of the government is the DEFINITION of corporatism and is the DIRECT ANTITHESIS of laissez-faire.
@trick29420
@trick29420 12 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is the greatest show to ever have aired on television. If you intend on watching it. Start from the beginning.
@marshaul
@marshaul 12 жыл бұрын
You said it. I wish Nick had said precisely this; I'd have liked to see the reaction.
@sleedolfine15
@sleedolfine15 11 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for saying that--I wish Nick,who knows what you are saying,had called Simon out on that very point.
@PhyllisMLeblanc
@PhyllisMLeblanc 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm sorry it's ending too.
@COODALOVEYA
@COODALOVEYA 11 жыл бұрын
ask for more of the wire people are still waiting
@FryingBayou
@FryingBayou 10 жыл бұрын
Talking about culture of Nola. Interviewer calls Creighton a "white guilt liberal" he's "happy when he dies". He loses DS respect with this statement. Goodman's character was the most complex. The interviewer pretends to have an insight-but you cannot fake sincerity. His ideology is weird to say the least.
@SamirTheG69
@SamirTheG69 11 жыл бұрын
Gillespie most likely did not know that and was just saying that he didn't like the character and was glad he died on the show.
@Ace19444
@Ace19444 11 жыл бұрын
I thought he was talking along the lines of privately owned prisons, which horrifyingly are a real thing
@cityhawk80
@cityhawk80 11 жыл бұрын
Most libertarians don't know what pure market forces mean
@runelord37
@runelord37 12 жыл бұрын
Intelligent guy that is still prey to the left/right paradigm.
@marshaul
@marshaul 12 жыл бұрын
Witness the continued confusion between sector-shifting in the economy (specifically the job market) and outsourcing or a reduction in the availability of work. The process to which you refer is universally correlated with the highest standard of living, greatest technological advancement, etc.
@macgp44
@macgp44 13 күн бұрын
A grown up (Simon) interviewed by a child suffering from Dunning-Kruger syndrome. Interesting.
@4EyedAnimation
@4EyedAnimation 12 жыл бұрын
If he feels shanked after seeing the interview...it maybe that he feels embarrassed that he saw he didn't have well reasonedarguments 9or as well as he thought he had) and was all emotion
@robinsss
@robinsss 11 жыл бұрын
what views of his are outdated?
@StraightFromTheAbove
@StraightFromTheAbove 12 жыл бұрын
The only man in america who missed the days when you had to read a newspaper
@Anupam19781
@Anupam19781 10 жыл бұрын
Don't know any of his background, love David Simon, but I really find this interviewer irritating.
@Elizafire85
@Elizafire85 3 жыл бұрын
Well anyone who’s glad Creighton Is dead is clearly a monster 🤷🏻‍♀️
@CALLE92JOHANSSON
@CALLE92JOHANSSON 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elizafire85 or they're just an identity politics libertarian who can't like someone if they have different world views from themselves.
@forfreedomssake4315
@forfreedomssake4315 Жыл бұрын
I love David Simon. Genius this man.
@SamirTheG69
@SamirTheG69 11 жыл бұрын
He was referring to a fictional television character
@peteagassi
@peteagassi 11 жыл бұрын
Why does this guy remind me so much of Jonathan Nolan? He sounds just like him!
@humanhiveanomaly
@humanhiveanomaly 12 жыл бұрын
Too many people have this misconception that since some institutions isn't under the direct payroll of the state, that this is a "free market". Those institutions that he speaks of sure are private, but about as close to a free market as lockheed martin is.
@AtotheDamn
@AtotheDamn 11 жыл бұрын
quit interrupting David Simon!
@understandingpower
@understandingpower 12 жыл бұрын
Anyone that only critiques the state without mentioning the concentrated economic power that effectively controls and runs the antiquated state, which seems to be inevitable in capitalist democracies, might wonder about their concept of freedom.
@ellenmeilee
@ellenmeilee 11 ай бұрын
Blimey in between the very frequent interrupting of each other there’s a good conversation
@sherwoodblockhd
@sherwoodblockhd 11 жыл бұрын
can be terminated based on ANY circumstances. the corporation WILL NOT be investigated nor will any of the employees be interviewed to find out what really happened in the work place... the prison system is the new slavery and has been that way for almost 100 years... i completely despise the politicans of louisiana because they are only after under the table deals and back alley meetings you would think they get into public office to help out the communties they come from but instead they
@kpoff5128
@kpoff5128 11 жыл бұрын
Good point, I made this comment sometime ago and not sure what it was in regards too.
@aseredy
@aseredy 12 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point. The reason why the state takes center stage in the critique, is that fact that it's proxies have guns and the legal authority to use them. While I'm no fan of Goldman, that corporation doesn't have soldiers and drones. I mean, you wouldnt blame a soccer player for kicking the ball into a mile wide goal if the rules say its legal; you'd blame the people that make the rules.
@ARKAEA33
@ARKAEA33 11 жыл бұрын
I feel like this guy is too busy with his television projects and hasn't really looked into political matters much. He seems fairly intelligent, but isn't really knowledgeable about the topics he's covering in this particular interview. Like talking about how markets are the reason for incarceration rates, yet totally ignoring the laws that led to this system being created. State did it, private sector furthered it, he blames the private sector. Wrong.
@beatlesfan129
@beatlesfan129 11 жыл бұрын
Goodman's character a "white guilt liberal"? Did Gillespie even watch the show?
@blainebillingsley
@blainebillingsley 10 жыл бұрын
Listened to the whole thing. Gillespie is a very interruptive, ideologically driven interviewer. Not impressed by him. It's awesome that David Simon calls him out on it constantly though. Boo Gillespie!
@Mdriver1981
@Mdriver1981 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with David Simon, I think, is he doesn't get people talking back to him all that much. People just fawn over him like he is the second coming. I am not saying he is wrong on all things, absolutely not, but Gillespie is correct in telling Simon that it the news is worse now than it was, or that more employees at a newspaper means better newspapers, etc.
@devoteeofgeorgesmiley7184
@devoteeofgeorgesmiley7184 7 жыл бұрын
Wonder if Massah Chuck and/or Massah Dave waterboard Nicky Gillespie ever weekend or every other weekend and do so for mere profit or for sport?
@john26razor
@john26razor 9 жыл бұрын
While I agree a lot more with Gillespie's ideology, I found this interview distasteful and poorly done.
@kev3d
@kev3d 12 жыл бұрын
I can honestly say I have never seen a single minute of "The Wire." Is it any good?
@TKe-wf2to
@TKe-wf2to 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@understandingpower
@understandingpower 12 жыл бұрын
The rules the state creates are the end process of the interests groups with power, and in America that has almost always been overwhelmingly concentrated economic power. Given they often staff and or massively influence the most important areas of government and often write legislation through lobbyists, I think it's better to picture the government as an intermediary between various industries that can occasionally be influenced by the public. IMO it's a mistake to think of them as separate.
@jarrbear05
@jarrbear05 11 жыл бұрын
Mr. Simon asks "what is your freaking alternative?" to people saying there is "too much government." Well, looking at the issues he takes on in "The Wire": End the drug war, open up the schools to competition via charters, vouchers or tax credits and work for smaller government which takes power away from politicians. That's my alternative.
@qkljhewgfhergk
@qkljhewgfhergk 3 жыл бұрын
That's a stupid alternative that leads to corporate tyranny. You just handed the keys of the world over to Jeff Bezos. Thanks.
@brettbewley5798
@brettbewley5798 Жыл бұрын
This misses the issue. The problem isn't specifically the size and reach of the government but rather the bias and corruption. Right now our country's sole priority is to remain the dominant world power. Serving and taking care of its own populice is completely secondary.
@Knonsense981
@Knonsense981 12 жыл бұрын
It is not laissez-faire for the government to create an artificial market for something on taxpayer dime. I don't understand how anyone could come to that conclusion.
@kbr7171
@kbr7171 12 жыл бұрын
Love Nick. No Quarter.
@spunkitydoda
@spunkitydoda 12 жыл бұрын
KZfaq is the modern day news room.
@garethtthomas
@garethtthomas 12 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this wasn't edited in a slightly strange way. David Simon says, at one point, "You're bringing some kind of weird ideology into it..." - that doesn't seem to follow on from what Nick Gillespie said, which is a fairly innocuous comment about the LA times always being a booster for the city. Giving David Simon the benefit of the doubt, I don't see why he would say that such a remark was "ideology". That doesn't make sense, but edited in that way it makes David Simon look irrational.
@runelord37
@runelord37 12 жыл бұрын
That is not laissez-faire. That is crony capitalism.
@fubar360able
@fubar360able 10 жыл бұрын
wow, when John Goodmen jumped I never expected that.....I think he is a great actor
@strepsil08
@strepsil08 11 жыл бұрын
The interviewer isn't fit to change David Simon's ink cartridge.
@john26razor
@john26razor 10 жыл бұрын
So much respect for DS, couldn't agree more. You can't shove politics into your viewers throat, that's selfish. First and foremost, you got to tell a story
@UPutTheGayInGangster
@UPutTheGayInGangster 12 жыл бұрын
Free trade is not the reason so many are incarcerated in this country. Market forces? Perhaps, in response to the incentives and framework laid out by the governing body; who's authority, at such a point, should go unrecognized.
@dfresh93086
@dfresh93086 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t talk while your interview subject is speaking. You might miss something…just like the interviewer missed the meaning on the death of John Goodman in Treme. To be “happy” about it just shows that he completely missed the tragedy of it and has a serious lack of empathy and compassion.
@Tsnore
@Tsnore 10 жыл бұрын
How come Simon comes across as if others' views have no validity because they haven't been there or done that or think like he does? Oh wait a minute; he'll think I am being ad hominem here.
@Ismlor
@Ismlor 11 жыл бұрын
Interrupting - one of the most aggravating traits of an interviewer there is. Dude needs to shut up and let the 'other' guy be the star that he is
@goethicdesire
@goethicdesire 5 жыл бұрын
The interviewer keeps interrupting to an extent where it’s clear he is scared of Simon saying something which he won’t like ( or nasty ). Why did he invite him if he was so cowardly ?
@AminEL7
@AminEL7 9 жыл бұрын
news,"you cover the ground and you find out whats going on..."
@AminEL7
@AminEL7 9 жыл бұрын
Amin EL Some things the market should not dictate, private sector should not police communities, definitely the government's responsibility...
@HanStanwell
@HanStanwell 12 жыл бұрын
what I meant was, this guy is blaming drug prohibition on laissez-faire
@runelord37
@runelord37 11 жыл бұрын
I dont dislike him or that point.
@tsummerlee
@tsummerlee 12 жыл бұрын
So Simon has no intention of proving his claim that dwindling newspaper staffing is the result of Wall Street? Funny how he accuses Nick of making an "emotional argument."
@sgtmcwallace
@sgtmcwallace 12 жыл бұрын
Did he really just say Disaster capitalism..........really?
@understandingpower
@understandingpower 12 жыл бұрын
Well given that we live within the confines of a state-capitalist society, I don't think it's incorrect to blame the state distorted market outcomes (i.e., the private profit for continually incarcerating more and more people). Sure, this isn't simply free-market forces doing their work, so he shouldn't have simply said "markets" without pairing that with government, but this is why capitalism with democracy don't appear to be compatible.
@jcarabet9901
@jcarabet9901 4 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is this guy who keeps interrupting David Simon??
@MrStephenRGilman
@MrStephenRGilman 12 жыл бұрын
David Simon makes the error of equating a desire to LIMIT the POWER of government with a desire to ELIMINATE the RESPONSIBILITIES of government. It's a false equation.
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