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Top 10 Worst RPG Dungeons - Nintendo 3DS Edition
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Hello and welcome to the Top Worst RPG Dungeons - Nintendo 3DS Edition! Here we will be celebrating all those awful dungeons that brought us so much distress over the years! Did you favorites make the cut? Let me know what you think and if you agree or disagree! Thanks for watching! #gaymer #nintendo #rpg #playstation #xbox #asmr #atelier #steamdeck
@MrGaiakid 4 жыл бұрын
"Bravely Default...the entire 2nd half" I laughed...then I cried
@matthewlabodin3981 4 жыл бұрын
Duma Tower was a lot worse in the NES version. In that one, Celica's party could take small amounts of damage every time Alm entered a room. Also, if you're taking an hour on each of those random encounters, you're doing something very wrong.
@alphaphalt7730 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really concerned on how Echoes random encounters are taking an hour.
@TheFifthWill 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's even possible unless you actively try to avoid the enemies the entire time during the strategy phase.
@thedreambirds 4 жыл бұрын
They should never take more than a few minutes at most
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Seems like this guy does not know how to Fire Emblem
@sherrdreamz7232 4 жыл бұрын
Duma tower generally shouldn't take much more than an hour and a half even played slowly on the highest difficulty. It helps make it easier to get the jump on the enemies Persona 5 style to make most fights take less than 5 minutes.
@buster1746 4 жыл бұрын
it only took me 45 minutes for 100% duma tower
@poyopotpie 4 жыл бұрын
The first time I played Bravely Default I pursued the True Ending so I went through the 2nd half completely instead of just blitzing through it. I was upset the first time but upon reflection and replaying the game I love it. I think it wouldn't have been as bad if they did more of showing how different "each time" was. There are so many cool easter eggs ONLY if you seek them out. That should have been more obvious because while their idea makes sense story-wise, it is super controversial and feels like it was the lazy way to execute said idea.
@Morgan_Blackhand 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVED Bravely Default, but the second half was ridiculous. Having to repeat everything a ridiculous amount of times to get the true ending was such a drag.
@fervcorsica3358 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know if it was intentional or no but the music to YHWH's dungeon was utterly nerve-wracking. Like, having to listen to that music over an over was half the difficulty to this infamous dungeon. But seriously still is a very well-crafted JRPG, don't let this scare u away, take it like a man. No vaseline hardcore smt goodness.
@robinmattheussen2395 4 жыл бұрын
Despite how annoying that dungeon is, I actually really like the music there. Well, I like all the SMTIV music tbh.
@meltydogshit8743 4 жыл бұрын
You seriously didn't know you could stack the anti death braclets in 7th dragon? Sure there only 50 percent but the game lets you equip two of them which completely nulls the first bosses effect making him the easiest out of the 3. I used a samurai, mage and hacker. But that's just me
@tobythetuna7482 4 жыл бұрын
Fire emblem fanboy here. Regarding echos and the tower of duma, the slog your describing is a bit misleading considering, A- most fights are completely avoidable B- turn the damn animations off lol C- the turn wheel grants you plenty of forgiveness for inevitable screwups (also builds tension as your mistakes add up and you run low on charges) D- the random encounters are more like 5 minutes as opposed to the hour you described E- the generally easy difficulty and designs constraints of the turnwheel forced the devs to adopt battle of attrition tactics (not really a defense more of an explanation) F- your skillz G- git gud H- Celica is bae Also great vid two thumbs up
@55yamy 4 жыл бұрын
"Disclaimer - that's not a hate comment just one of frustration towards that part of the game in question." I've played Echoes few times and when it cames to duma tower it's the worst part. About your point: A) most fights are completely avoidable - if your good enough with the controls and the camera angel is okey yeah maybe for me it can't happen for more than one or two. B) turn the damn animations off - you can do it but what about if you want to watch them (it will save time but not much). C) the turn wheel grants you plenty of forgiveness for inevitable screwups - it can't help you if they keep killing Celica most of the time. (it has happened to me alot) D) the random encounters are more like 5 minutes as opposed to the hour you described - they may not be up to an hour but are really more then 5 min. maybe up to 30 min. if your grinding for coins with Celica to forge the wepons it can go through there couple of times which is not plesent (that's the last time you can go forgeing and grinde for coins and exp. with Celica before act 6). And Alms part is bad too but not as much.
@Magikarpador 4 жыл бұрын
i was with you but fuck celica
@alrox9760 4 жыл бұрын
Huh.. i didnt found duma tower thaaaat difficult... the path to go there in the first place (at least for me) is difficult..... ... .. .. . *FUCK YOU CANTORS!!!!*
@Terranigma23 4 жыл бұрын
For Ever Oasis there is instant teleporter in dungeon (beginning, middle, end) so you can come back to the Oasis when you want.
@ShadowWolfRising 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, otherwise that whole thing would have been multitudes times worse.
@JusticiaD 4 жыл бұрын
In Ever Oasis, you can see what abilities you will need in a dungeon before you go in. Also teleport is fast.
@enderspider15 4 жыл бұрын
Persona Q was an amazing game but some of the puzzles in the dungeons were just completely momentum stopping. Inaba pride had the worst for sure but the other dungeons were quite tedious as well. The story was fun though. I always enjoy a good crossover game.
@jayceofspades7195 4 жыл бұрын
The puzzles were a little too far on the difficult side for me at least, especially in the lower levels of the Evil Spirit Club. Where the game really shined through was it's ost. Light The Fire Up In The Night and Laser Beam (The standard enemy encounter and boss theme) were such outstanding tracks that I often find myself singing along to them now at random times.
@sofaris576 4 жыл бұрын
I actully really like the dungeons in PQ. Especially the 5th dungeon. I honestly had not much of a problem with the Pride Exihibit. On my first playthrough I had way more trouble with the 3rd dungeon. Overall I love the PQ games. I like Zen and Rei so I really could get in to the story.
@lisasemarron5413 4 жыл бұрын
Wait until the 3rd one . its worse
@MrSwaggington 4 жыл бұрын
I'm geuinely surprised that nobody ever talks about the interesting things that happen in the other alternate universes in brabely default. Don't they ever look for the extra stuff?
@fionavar6607 4 жыл бұрын
Lol most people are lazy fucks. But yeah theres lots of new interesting stuff you find if you just take your time.
@LAnite430 4 жыл бұрын
Herp Derp I went through it all, and I personally don’t think it was worth it. I get what they were going for, but it still comes off lazy. It got a bit interesting later on gameplay-wise though, like when you fight multiple Asterisk users at the same time.
@TheDeathby2 4 жыл бұрын
Still doesnt make up for having to play it thru 4 times over. Also the secret details are just the same bosses except in diff orders or bundled together to be extra annoying (looking at you fight with 5 mages in last world)
@TheKabuto90 4 жыл бұрын
I can forgive the Rune Prana as it's technically postgame and optional but the rest of these can die in a fire. Especially Duma Tower as I really feel that while they are a bit simplistic and generic, every other dungeon was relatively well designed in terms of length and encounters. Not to mention the classic Fire Emblem difficulty spike is in full force there which just makes it worse.
@RuneFactoryandElonaMobileGreat 4 жыл бұрын
i love rune factory the same, the crafting, the difficulty and keeping your allies from fainting requires serious grinding in skills, equipment and exp. This is not a game to play fast, it grows like crops and it's the most rewarding. I have almost 1000 hours in it and i don't need anything else.
@raditzace 4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, rune prana is easy as long as you didn't bumrush to it, which is what it sounds like he did. My first time playing, I got to rune prana after I had gotten forging and crafting to lvl 80 I think. I thought that I needed max lvl to make the strongest weapons (since I went in blind and didnt know weapon making was based on skill with said weapon type). I didn't even use that trick where all slots are filled with lvl 10 mats to make the damage of broadsword do 700+. My only complaint would be the game doesnt give you much info on how it's mechanics work. Imagine my suprise when I found a topic about making a broadsword at the beginning of game that dealt damage that would last until arc 2 or even 3.
@35infinite 4 жыл бұрын
What I liked about this vid is learning about games I've never heard of. Thanks for the hard work and keep it up!
@ShadowWolfRising 4 жыл бұрын
7. 'All the Dungeons' Yeah, I love the game (The Premise of Building a Town Up Up like Dark Cloud and Suikoden appeals to me greatly, wish more games did it.) with a unique character design and setting. But just FUCK the dungeons. "You didn't bring a character with the correct ability? Lol go back to town fucker." That shit was tedious and annoying, The game would have been far better without it, like just require crafting a tool or something. Like a Sequel without that shit would be FANTASTIC.
@timbermaniac5756 4 жыл бұрын
You know what this video seems to be missing? A good, old fashioned sewer dungeon. David's favorite.
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the developers learned that they’re terrible and stopped putting them in games! Lol, we can only hope.
@garfreeek 4 жыл бұрын
Yokai watch 2 has one, but you compete it in small chunks so it isn't to bad!
@bugsterlincapoop7900 4 жыл бұрын
Oh god I can't wait to suffer in smt4 apocalypse
@Rellik165 4 жыл бұрын
Well, whether you already have or are still waiting to, enjoy Quantum Physics: the Dungeon when you get to it.
@josephpanno6816 4 жыл бұрын
No joke that dungeon took me like 2-3 days to beat cause I was not doing it all in one sitting.
@MiamiSunrise 4 жыл бұрын
Crimson Shroud I have only heard of and seen gameplay of once before my viewing of this video. What you describe with the Gersey Waterway and the rare enemy/rare drop key situation is one of the most inexcusable scenarios I have heard of in an RPG. That for me might have had me do one of two things: 1. Shut the game off and never come back 2. Throw the 3DS It isn't the same thing, but it reminds me of the things you have to do in Final Fantasy 2 for SNES in order to get the Pink Tail: Go to one room in the final dungeon (if memory serves me there is nothing in that room so why would you stay in it?) and in that room you have a (if I remember correctly) like a 1 in 64 chance of fighting a Pink Puff and even if you fight them, you also have an extremely low chance of them dropping the pink tail. Then you have to know to take it to the underground to the smith to get the Adamant armor. I almost always refer to this practically unsolvable side quest when I here of things like what you described. I can easily see the Crimson Shroud situation being number 1 in this video haha
@newageBoundhippie 4 жыл бұрын
Sticker Star isn't even an RPG....it's a giant dumpster fire.
@777Plushy 4 жыл бұрын
Actually It Is & I Am One Of Few Who Actually Like That Game. Also, I Hate Color Splash More Mostly That Game Has Way More BS Moments Compared To Sticker Star.
@newageBoundhippie 4 жыл бұрын
@@777Plushy actually it's an action adventure, the devs at Intelligent Systems have even said so. Hell, battles in Sticker Star literally only exist to waste your stickers. The only thing remotely RPG ish about SS & CS are the barely interesting stories & misleading turn-based combat
@777Plushy 4 жыл бұрын
@@newageBoundhippie Well Personally I Found Color Splash Worse. Mostly Because The BS Insta-Kill Momments.
@godzillahomer 4 жыл бұрын
agreed on Sticker Star the lack of leveling up really kills the RPG feel you're only stronger at the end due to finding HP hearts and better stickers not to mention the lack of partners... RIP Chain Chomp partner, gone before their time
@Terranigma23 4 жыл бұрын
@@777Plushy why you write in cap lock only lol.
@nicole9680 4 жыл бұрын
Bravely Default pissed me off because the game was really good and they made well realized characters that felt relatable and intelligent but to get the "true" ending they must've taken a bunch of stupid pills because none of them realized what was happening. That BLEW MY MIND.
@Gerd0 4 жыл бұрын
You pronounced it wrong. It's supposed to be *record scratch*'s Universe.
@Dingisman 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing Persona Q because of the Inaba Pride Exhibit dungeon. Wondering if it's even worth it to finish it to finish the game for like 2 years now lol
@sofaris576 4 жыл бұрын
I did not found that dungeon that bad. I finished this game twice by now. I found its a pretty good game.
@dakota1804 4 жыл бұрын
YHVH's Universe was soo bad I love SMT IV and IV:A but that really killed the ending of IV:A for me. The dungeon took me like 3 days to beat bc I kept getting lost and bored.
@thrasher698 4 жыл бұрын
I'd argue Evil Spirit Club is worse than Inaba Pride Exibit simply based on the enemy types and how intentionally misleading some of the puzzles are. Seriously, whoever came up with Corrosion skills belongs on a cross.
@henryconner3002 4 жыл бұрын
Me reaches Paper Mario segment: Hope you don't mind flame wars
@ace-trainer-aj 4 жыл бұрын
I find doing the "Light the 4 crystals" thing of Bravely Default over and over again, as Agnès usually says, unacceptable.
@lightdrgn20 4 жыл бұрын
But it's not a dungeon, you get to redo those as well.
@blackdragoncyrus 4 жыл бұрын
Some of the Etrian Odyssey and Strange Journey Redux dungeons are pretty damn bad.
@df60 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, don't get me started on Strange Journey Redux. There's an entire floor of two realms dedicated to warp rooms and with the constant interruption of battles, getting turned around or using the wrong warp becomes so dang easy.
@Sith-bb6tq 4 жыл бұрын
Petal bridge. Just petal bridge. All 14 floors of it across 3 games
@nintendosega100 4 жыл бұрын
Playing strange journey redux right now. Only in Carina and it’s just UGH
@paperluigi6132 4 жыл бұрын
I did it blindly, and I had little to no trouble with Neo Bowser's Castle the first time I played it
@inconemay1441 4 жыл бұрын
Janky controls makes the dungeon crawling in SOV even more unforgiving in addition to being nightmare fuel. One wrong step and you unknowingly face a difficult enemy.
@sofaris576 4 жыл бұрын
I actully enjoyed the dungeons in PQ. I did not really had much problem with the Inaba Pride Exihbit. In my first playthrough I had more trouble with the hunted house. The 5th dungeon liked a lot.
@TheGunmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome series David thanks!!
@FatalKitsune 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video reminded me that Bravely Default 2 had (and this might be weird to say) the WORST treasure chests in any JRPG I've played. MOST of the chests you came across contained either (1) items for the Catmancer class (2) items for the Chef (?) class or (3) generic consumables. It got to the point that I started skipping over them because I knew they most likely wouldn't contain any cool new equipment.
@fenniken5381 4 жыл бұрын
some do have equipment, besides I am compulsive about finding all treasures.
@Chelaxim 4 жыл бұрын
What about treasure chest in Dragon Quest? When have you truly ever found anything good in the treasure chests in Dragon Quest? The mimics in Dragon Quest don't even drop items as well.
@theFado96 4 жыл бұрын
I just knew you would have complained about Bravely Default
@lenpop3158 4 жыл бұрын
Even tho bravely default was supposed to be final fantasy crystals Chronicles DS version
@krimsonkatt 4 жыл бұрын
@@lenpop3158 That's incorrect. Bravely Default is a semi-sequel to Final Fantasy the 4 Heroes of Light on DS. While BD takes place in a separate world, the job system is incredibly similar and the demon Lords from ff4hol appear in both Bravely Default and Second as optional bosses as well as the Adventurer (revealed to be named Deneb in BS) returning for all three games as a useful NPC and a post-game superboss.
@krimsonkatt 4 жыл бұрын
@@lenpop3158 Also Crystal Chronicles was on DS (but not 3DS) with the games Ring of Fates and the Pokemon-eque dual game versions My Life as a King/Dark Lord.
@indigowendigo8165 4 жыл бұрын
#9 - Bravely Default - At least you can change encounter rates and difficulty though, so the only real problem is how extremely tedious it is. :p I have to admit, it is kind of painful... but at least some of the extra bosses change ever so slightly to become more difficult each time. :p
@Sith-bb6tq 4 жыл бұрын
I think the thing in persona q was kinda fun, what wasn’t was another of the same series (kinda) was petal bridge which started in strain odyssey 2, got ported to the remake etrian odyssey untold 2 on 3ds, and finally rebuilt in etrian odyssey nexus the all star dungeon finale. I get that the torches may have been annoying, but there are 14 total floors of petal bridge across all games with all the same annoying random encounters, FOEs, and it being a first person dungeon crawler didn’t help. Freaken floating platform positioning puzzles
@jdgrass6134 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I still love all of your top 10 videos. They're amazing and it's fun to hear your opinions on these games.
@_GLXC 4 жыл бұрын
YHVH's universe is felt worse for me than some of the last dungeons in SMT1, 2, and if... and that says a lot. Those were hard to navigate because they sometimes disable the map, and leaving the dungeon to heal could take a while. Maybe its because playing SMT4's dungeons mentally prepared me for the inevitable "go into a different direction that actually leads you back to the beginning of the level" but I could have sworn it being more painful in 4 and 4a. And dont even get me started on strange journey. I havent completed that game and I already think the Womb of Grief is dungeon crawling pain in its most innate form. At least in redux you can save mid dungeon so I dont need to spend hours getting back to a save point
@goremagician7972 4 жыл бұрын
I actually had no problem with duma tower🤣 I think I skipped a bunch of the encounters but any encounters I did face were pretty easy. But the bad part was that I forgot to class upgrade multiple characters, meaning I can’t do it until postgame! That sucks so much😭
@MondoJohnny 4 жыл бұрын
David I feel like we lived the same rpg life. You get me!
@WhiteFangofWar 4 жыл бұрын
I knew YHVH's universe had to be on here, but didn't think it would be #1. The worst part is the 3rd Brane where every single encounter is nothing but Metatron clones, which take forever to die. Surprised to see Neo Bowser Castle here when Somnom Woods and Dreamy Wakeport exist in the same game. I liked the game overall but there were some rather obnoxious areas. My honorable mention would be Mt. Fuji in Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker. An enormous area with lots of twisting catwalks, long staircases and infinitely spawning long-range enemies that you have to complete twice, and the second time you're on a time limit to hit the switches (a forgiving one, but still...).
@Spieleder1992 4 жыл бұрын
What about from SMT Strange journey redux llike Eradianus, Womb of grief and Empyrean Ascent?
@kyelite1859 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow Persona Q Inaba Exhibit puzzles were actually pretty fun to me. Whoever designed the puzzles in Evil Spirit club however, deserved to be exorcised. Screw them.
@blueythedragonknight3949 2 жыл бұрын
YHVH's Universe, When i first got to this dungeon in my play-through of SMT4A i swear i thought this dungeon was never ending, I basically had to rely on lady luck that i was going in the right direction, That is how you don't do a final dungeon. It's even more of a pain on the massacre route.
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
Like this page and what I do here? Consider supporting me on patreon! www.patreon.com/davidvinc [0:29] - 10) Preloma Scholar City - 7th Dragon: Code VFD [1:31] - 9) The Entire Second Half - Bravely Default [2:29] - 8) Neo Bowser's Castle - Mario and Luigi Dream Team [3:25] - 7) All the Dungeons - Ever Oasis [4:24] - 6) Gersey Waterway - Crimson Shroud [5:12] - 5) All the Cryptic Puzzles - Paper Mario: Sticker Star [6:16] - 4) Duma Tower - Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia [7:18] - 3) Rune Prana - Rune Factory 4 [8:14] - 2) Inaba Pride Exhibit - Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth [9:12] - 1) YHVH's Universe - SMT 4: Apocalypse
@reesewhittington6778 4 жыл бұрын
honestly, as a fan, i *_dont_* think they were thinking with *record scratches* universe. they dumped all their creative effort into the other dungeons, and they just decided to say "fuck it" with it.
@Spieleder1992 4 жыл бұрын
What about from SMT Strange journey redux llike Eradianus, Womb of grief and Empyrean Ascent?
@FidensLibertas 3 жыл бұрын
for that Rune Factory 4 dungeon you mentioned the player would end up seeing the game over screen plenty but if my memory serves me right there is no game over screen in Rune Factory 4. the last Rune Factory game to feature a game over screen was Rune Factory 2, after that the series took a page from Pokemon and just sends you to the clinic if your HP reaches 0.
@Faceless_time_traveler 2 жыл бұрын
If Persona Q was this frustrating , I'd hate to imagine your reaction to the Empyreal bridge , the optional dungeon for Etrian Odyssey V . Even with the map that the game gives you , this 1st person dungeon is very easy to get lost in,. With teleport spots that send you all over the place , and powerful monster that have the capacity to confuse , instantly kill you , and there's a monster that actually absorbs reviving spells , so if you try to revive a fallen party member while that monster is around it will heal up and cancel the spell. The Empyreal bridge is , hands down , the most difficult end game dungeon that I've ever played
@GamingtheOtter 6 ай бұрын
Bravely default is a game where I played jrps for the first time in years. It's also a game where the side stories are much better than the main story. If only the person I collaborated with actually beat the game and he didn't finish the 4th crystal he gave up at the cemetery in edea's hometown. 😅
@GamingG4276 4 жыл бұрын
You just talked me out of doing the rune prana. Does anyone know if it's better in the switch version?
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 4 жыл бұрын
I would skip Rune Prana, but I want to see Venti again. Too bad that place is so bad I usually just give up and start a new file. Don't know about the Switch version. Been saving for Animal Crossing.
@whitetigergp2924 4 жыл бұрын
Open up Sharence maze, bring lots of junk items, find a big enough monster to ride, tame it. ride your new lvl 300ish monster to Rune Prana and you won't take damage and your monster will kill just about everything in one hit. Might be good to grab one of the elemental fairies if you can there too as there is a room notorious for needing long range weapons/spells.
@oscara8454 4 жыл бұрын
Bravely default was good. Until the second half. My x button still hates me.
@jessiesalerno3545 4 жыл бұрын
#10 I literally just finished the main story of this game, you can equip two accessories, the same accessory too, the 50% resistance can therefore become 100% immunity. It prevents you from using accessory slots for ATK boosts or DEF boosts and stuff, which sucks, but you won't die. Also the game does warn you ahead of time the boss likes to use instant death attacks. Granted I'm sure if you're like me you're used to other games where you're used to instant death attacks having extremely low accuracy just to get party wiped, which is terrible, but the game does warn you. I still don't particularly like instant death as a battle gimmick though. Nice video though! Excited for post-game dungeons.
@joshdavis8381 4 жыл бұрын
Having played it recently, Eridanus in SMT Strange Journey Redux. You have to warp all over the place, and rely on floortraps to progress. Some sub apps you can purchase can make the experience a bit more bearable, but it's still a time consuming slog
@Spieleder1992 4 жыл бұрын
Then get ready for womb of grief and the Empyrean Ascent
@aarondvorak8100 4 жыл бұрын
In Bravely Default you can force the game past the repeated dungeon crawl by destroying the crystals, which you probably would never attempt to do because the game always made you stop
@theFado96 4 жыл бұрын
But you don'y get the TRUE ending
@Anaxisca 4 жыл бұрын
Wow😲. I wasn't expecting Iniba Pride Exibit to the be worst the dungeon of your list. As someone who play Q, I actually enjoy this dungeon. It music is really great and the flames while sometimes can be exhausting, it well implemented. Plus the boss and F. O. E are great (as long you be becafull) as well the side quest and plot is really emmocinal. Pesonally the worst is 3rd dungeon Spirt Horror Club. God this is a scary level and not the good way. You have to do logic puzzles which can be hard (expecely the last one) and the enemies are hard if don't prepared you die and have to reveal a lot (expecely those fricking PHATHOM MAGES😡😡😡. Who ever got the idea for it? ). The music is good but I heard other horror songs better. The only great thing is the bosses, side quest and FOE (as long they fair to you). Overall a great top 10.By the way have play Q2 and though on it. 😉
@trevormeme1959 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you! Those puzzles on the third dungeon were so exhausting!!
@ralpbeez8414 4 жыл бұрын
The Rune Prana was especially annoying because the whole time you just want to have *spoiler character* back, but the crafting and difficulty spike after -every- part is frustrating. RF is a game you want to do casually, but this dungeon just demolishes you over and over, it would've been better if they at least let you have *spoiler character* throughout as a party member you could choose from. My most hated boss from there is probably the 1st one or Death Wall. 1st because it really shows the difficulty spike, and the latter has instant death/combo you to death moves!
@hiddensoundtest1444 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't find the Ever Oasis dungeons that bad because teleporting between the dungeons and town didn't take that much time.
@solusluxanima7607 4 жыл бұрын
#1 dungeon is just horrible. How does a developer feel that a dungeon like that is fun? Or rewarding? Especially when you played awhile and run into that crap of a section.
@tgcsteven6368 4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I don't even find SMT IV: Apocalypse's final dungeon to be the worst SMT 3DS dungeon. There are a couple in Strange Journey Redux that blow it out of the water in terms of frustration and confusing branching paths.
@timroehm1728 2 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know I subscribed to your channel!
@Slenderquil 4 жыл бұрын
I see echoes in the thumbnail, i can already tell one of Two places this is going
@gunpsycho 4 жыл бұрын
Should you do PS4 dungeons, Final Fantasy XV's Zegnatus Keep (the penultimate dungeon, by the way) would be a contender for this list. And I'm talking the original version I had the misfortune to suffer through. And concerning Crimson Shroud being on the list, I think the "plot coupon being rare drops" thing is a recurring problem in the game. "Who came up with this nonsense" indeed.
@asmodeus58XX 4 жыл бұрын
3:05 Wait until you get your hands on Tales of Destiny PS2. The final dungeon takes over two freaking hours!
@maverick5169 4 жыл бұрын
FE Echoes itself is a giant slog of a game after act 2
@locoattack1210 4 жыл бұрын
That SMT4 dungeon had me fucked up when you showed the map LMAO!
@Minekings101 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for making a list of all my favorite games, I must have a really high bull shit tolerance or something because I love Bravely Default
@Gaiacrusher9fan2 4 жыл бұрын
I managed to get to the end of the Inaba Pride Exhibit. Only issue I had was map completion due to FOE placement in very specific locations. I'd wager I had even more trouble with the Evil Spirit Club, though that was mostly because of the enemy groups that can lower wind resistance and use Magarula in the same turn.
@EdreesesPieces 4 жыл бұрын
groundhog day the game, LOL. And then the sequel makes you go through the same areas AGAIN instead of making new areas!
@conansglasses2645 3 жыл бұрын
You should have added sector eridanus from smt strange journey
@godzillahomer 4 жыл бұрын
RF4's Rune Prana... I consider that like a whole story arc of dungeons rolled into one dungeon; levels 1-6 are like their own dungeons, 7 is like several rolled into one you simply need to keep re-inventing your gear with the new enemy drops and gaining levels and skill points; unless you get to excessively high levels, gear matters way more I managed to reach Level 50,000 as well; at that level with my massive skill levels, my stats are literally of the charts, I've hit the max values the game can show and am so horrifically strong that I can beat pretty much any boss (super or otherwise) at its hardest difficulty and highest level without getting serious... it seriously takes the fun out of things when only the Super-Boss version of the first boss gets me serious with her health absorption attack but that said, even I felt some of RP was BS, like one part where obstacles stopped you from using melee against some mages; I ended up using Forte's most devastating technique to defeat them
@SuperConroy99 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, with Duma Tower being on here... yeah that's... that's kinda how exiting a dungeon works, y'know, what with the respawning of enemies and all that!
@fredflintstone5356 2 жыл бұрын
I think we should be letting developers know that these long and horrible dungeons shouldn’t be in games or at least not till after the main game is completed and these dungeons considered extra content. There’s too many RPG’s that I enjoyed until it came down to the last dungeon and being someone who likes to finish games up until the credits roll just upsets me when the last dungeon or even boss is horrible. There’s nothing worse than having a 5 phase boss and it’s always the last phase that’s the hardest and the phase you have no items left. Most times I have to go back and grind and be over levelled just to finish the boss.
@Petersmith57921 Жыл бұрын
I need a top 10 david shrinking vest vid next lol
@Swordsmaster 4 жыл бұрын
If you know what you are doing, Duma tower isn't bad. I think Fear Mountain can be much worse. Also, there is a save point at the lower floor of the tower with a Mila shrine and I don't think going there causes enemies to respawn. Could be wrong on that.
@Chelaxim 4 жыл бұрын
Personally the Algon Soft building in Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner Soul Hackers. The one where you have to move those panels to reveal a specific letter three floors in a row then go to the other side of the building to do the same thing so you can unlock the door on the other side of the building and then you have to do the letter panels so you can unlock the upper floors on the other half of the building so you do the letter panels which unlock the upper floors on the other side of the building... And if you forget about which letter to do, you gotta go online because that's one of the few things at the digest doesn't remind you continue a game.
@davidvinc 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a nightmare!!
@postapocalypse0763 4 жыл бұрын
7:35 I expected the fire cave with the flower boss at the end.
@kodytiffany5686 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the F'n Duma Tower is locked behind the worst boss battle in the game... scratch that; what I hope is the worst boss battle in the game. Who thinks of the bull shit of every 4th turn one character on your team can use a single atk to hurt a boss. doing the math I have to be willing to play 76+ rounds to build up the damage enough to win... keeping the party from not dying against a boss that oneshots me all the time...oh and I cannot progress on the otherside do to a land slide. I will welcome that stupid tower nonsense if it means the stalemate is over.
@zalmora_395 4 жыл бұрын
I fucking hated Rune Prana because that took such a long time to finish for me. I know that I finished RF 4 when I was 11 so I don't have as much experience I'll admit that much. The worse thing there was the hot one I don't remember anymore. It took a long time to finish since I don't know what I was doing. Sure I got my Siren there but still my old pets dropped dead when we hit the 4th room. I just hated that whole place in general. It's been 2 years since I finished so I squeezed up everything I could.
@indumatipngtuber2790 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really really dislike Bravely Default for the same reason. That is the reason that I really thought Bravely Default really got ruined. Why would anyone design a game like that?
@shiyaniera 4 жыл бұрын
playing rune factory 4 special and I beat rune prana on autumn 5 year 1 by entering sharance maze and escaping until the game graced me with a blue treasure chest with a top tier weapon. all i needed to do then was craft a few elemental resist accessories to deal with the more annoying traps and boom. a bit cheesy but if you're having trouble with rune prana it pretty much eliminates most of the grind
@throwawayaccount7892 4 жыл бұрын
Those damn festival dudes in the inaba pride exhibit are so damn aggervating to go against if you dont have a all male team then your screwed they will use diarahan and send you back to sqare one (battle progression wise) and to make things worse there crazed slash skill hits like a truck
@ryangavant9482 4 жыл бұрын
Love your voice and delivery. Jealous of your knowledge and scope of games.
@WolfestoneManor 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! David mentioned mainline SMT!
@blockeontheleafeon 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to get all the Gold Flags in Miitopia, *DON'T!* (Unless you have A LOT of Freetime.) Lotus Lake and the Underground Maze were MADE to pad out the Game-time in the Worst Way Possible. Unless you want to move on with the Story, Get ready to Replay the Levels Over and Over and Over again... Lotus Lake is at least Cool to look at, But The Underground Maze can't even do that. So, If you want to Complete Miitopia like I Did, Prepare to Play it for Hours on end because of these Dungeons Alone...
@julikumpel4375 4 жыл бұрын
Duma's tower is nothing compared to trudging through all of the Thabes dungeon only to fight you know who at the end like Ughhhh
@unknownbyself 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say that Duma's Tower is still worse due to the fact that you're required by plot to clear it. Thabes Labyrinth, despite being a difficult and tedious slog of a dungeon, is optional, and there are some nice rewards for going through it.
@TheDeathby2 4 жыл бұрын
The 2nd half of bravely default ruined it for me. Especially since the secret bosses and the final boss are so hard without a performer/freelancer who can spam my hero all the time
@NocturnalNovelist 4 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Echoes here but. It’s true.
@FuriousHaunter 4 жыл бұрын
You can bookmark in dungeons in echoes sov so the lack of saving is not a problem also you can avoid all encounters but the ones before the stairs the dodgeable enemies are so easy to sweep with saber/deen hell even jessie if trained and not to mention palla or catria maybe aside from the final floor but "what the last few encounters in the final area are only kinda hard" especially compared to the rest of alm's maps and the random encounters in alm's final dungeon with promoted enemies and the solo segment honestly either you suck, turtle, had alful team composition, used conrad or got super rng screwed if encounters where hard or took more than like 5 to 10 minutes.
@ricardomendez9179 3 жыл бұрын
The final dungeon of Etryan Odissey IV... Man...
@jmanclan 4 жыл бұрын
thats a bummer to hear about ever oasis, only played the demo it got me hoping for a switch remaster. maybe theyll fix the party issue if that happens
@johndawn6951 4 жыл бұрын
Inaba pride... The only reason I still haven't beaten persona Q and why I'm wary of Q2.
@KingKobora 4 жыл бұрын
Trust me, Persona Q2 has nothing nearly as abysmal as the Inaba Dumpster Fire.
@timroehm1728 2 жыл бұрын
Also what about Tales of The Abyss? You know that one dungeon?
@asmodeus58XX 4 жыл бұрын
Well, in a year you'll have a final PS4 edition, and possibly a Switch edition later on. There are some fearsome dungeons in Octopath Traveler, and knowing you, you might consider throwing something from Breath of the Wild, as it has some many RPG/RPG-lite elements.
@aprettyfunnyperson4516 4 жыл бұрын
Thabes Labyrinth is nightmare inducing. Oh god, the fire dragons...
@Prinny9000 4 жыл бұрын
Don't get me started on Rube Prana it toke me 6 weeks to beat that damn dungeon most of the time I was crafting weapons and armor and cooking the best I could make only to wase it on the bosses and I have to grind to upgrade my items when tackling each of the bosses
@z1ggy124 4 жыл бұрын
I completely gave up on the true ending in bravely default and opted to just destroy the crystal. I got so fed up with it lol
@henryconner3002 4 жыл бұрын
Why isn't the second half of Bravely Default higher up on the list, because playing through that part of the game physically killed me. Dragon Quest VII did something about revisiting dungeons to wake up the four elements, bit there's a difference: IT WAS BETTER BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAD TO PLAY THROUGH THE DUNGEONS ONCE. Honestly I prefer Bravely Second: End Layer over the first one, because there isn't that much bullcrap in it.
@Petersmith57921 Жыл бұрын
I just found this u have done top 10 everything now
@Tulase 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see Paper Mario Sticker Star, I get instantly angry!
@almondjoy4938 4 жыл бұрын
I don't. I actually like Sticker Star. I hate Shy Guy Jungle,though. That,we can all agree on stinks.
@freakyfro99 4 жыл бұрын
I've never managed to make it past the first area of Crimson Shroud lmao.
@violentvito6645 4 жыл бұрын
I finished the second half of Bravely Default and loved the game. But I ran through with no encounters on and grinded up my levels on 4x speed and auto battle. But yeah the game would of been so amazing with something more going on in the 2nd half.