Dealer Positioning Deep Dive With The Vol.land Creator

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Fatty Trades

Fatty Trades

Жыл бұрын

In this video I interview the creator of Vol.land and pick his brain on how to read Vanna, Gamma, Delta and dealer positioning as a whole to figure out where institutions will buy and sell. We go through TSLA, AMZN and SPX/SPY to show how we can structure spreads and make informed decisions on our trading using this data.
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@tomn6517
@tomn6517 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know I could simultaneously have my mind blown 🤯and my brain fried 🍳. This was extremely helpful! Thanks you both so much for the education! Look forward to future collaborations 😅🍻
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
That’s how you know it’s working! To this day I feel like dealer positioning blows my mind almost everyday, especially when combined with price action (which we didn’t get into here but will soon).
@wawa327
@wawa327 Жыл бұрын
Does take a while to start getting this in your head and there are a lot of nuisances but this video really helped clear things up and feel more confident reading the Vanna levels. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to do this video.
@yeshediez5605
@yeshediez5605 Жыл бұрын
thank you to both
@jorgehduque2840
@jorgehduque2840 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Fatty Trades!
@jody6851
@jody6851 Ай бұрын
Watching this video for the first time, I wish Jason DeLorenzo had explained starting at 10:10 WHY just a small change in IV effects the market so greatly if Vanna if very positive.
@JohnWick-ef8tv
@JohnWick-ef8tv Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@AirbaIIs
@AirbaIIs Жыл бұрын
keep watching all your videos... much appreciated. not putting it all together but its appreciated !
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support, over time it will come together. I think it would be worth taking a step back to talk about exactly what dealer positioning is & the basics of it regarding delta hedging and how gamma/vanna dynamically impact it to help with videos like this where some assumptions are made.
@anthonycaballero5450
@anthonycaballero5450 Жыл бұрын
excelente discusion sobre los griegos. poco a poco para mi
@steveking8831
@steveking8831 Жыл бұрын
Kevin, thank you very much for this video and interview, it is extremely helpful!
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
Happy to do it, I hope we can do more soon!
@chrisriley7613
@chrisriley7613 7 ай бұрын
Looking back on this, the speads they discussed on tesla would have got absolutely killed and you would have lost a lot of money.
@DeepakNaidu
@DeepakNaidu Жыл бұрын
Need to watch this multiple times, thanks for the video. Can you please clarify a simple question, who is a dealer and a customer? My guess is the majority of dealers are institution folks, right?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
Dealers are a special subset of institutions referred to as hedge funds or market makers. I know of 6 total and they have special arrangements with the exchanges/brokers to provide liquidity to the markets in the way of options or pairing buyers to sellers. It’s the whole reason we see markets hunt liquidity and run stops - it’s them meeting their objective of matching buyers to sellers. The customers include retail, but are primarily large funds and banks like JPM, TRowe, etc. for instance when JPM puts its monthly collar spread on, they are purchasing the large amount of options from dealers. Dealers don’t want directional risk, they want to make their money from the providing liquidity/options. If you think about all the option chains across all assets, strikes and expirations, it’s primarily them that can fill the demand of buyers and sellers. If they can’t match a buyer to a seller, they’ll sell it themself and hedge using futures or shares to ensure they don’t have directional risk. They hedge is based on delta which is Gamma/vanna/charm are so important - they change delta and therefore dynamically change the hedging requirements.
@DeepakNaidu
@DeepakNaidu Жыл бұрын
@@FattyTrades Thank you very much for the reply
@arielcruz6417
@arielcruz6417 2 ай бұрын
Hey man where have you been
@wittigvijay
@wittigvijay Жыл бұрын
Is that Twin tower Jason was pointing at SPX, JPM Collar Trade? It has March expiry and price seem to match as well?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
No it’s different strikes and expirations that the JPM collar trade. I have to go back and verify but I believe those can be seen.
@travisrsmith44
@travisrsmith44 Жыл бұрын
Can you show how you use this to trade live? Or the best setups/patterns this having this info can alert you to?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
Yes I need to do a video on it. There’s a bunch of ways to use the data. For instance if we have large positive GEX levels above and vanna magnets below, you could set credit spreads above that gamma. Or if there’s a large vanna magnet expiring a certain day, set butterfly spreads on those gamma levels expiring slightly before that date and close them out as price consolidates on those levels. I plan to do a whole video about structuring spreads and another video about how I use them intraday.
@AalapSharma
@AalapSharma 3 ай бұрын
@@FattyTrades Did you ever get to this? Please link if you did a video on it.
@conormcgregor.7333
@conormcgregor.7333 Жыл бұрын
The bar pointing down is negative, and the bar pointing up is positive. Zero is in the middle.
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
That’s correct, you can compare to the y-axis for positive/negative values
@askartop2628
@askartop2628 Жыл бұрын
Tsla trade at that time just long calls ))
@yeshediez5605
@yeshediez5605 Жыл бұрын
kevin the discord you are talking about, where it search?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
You can join it here. If you are a Vol.land subscriber let them know and they’ll upgrade your access discord.gg/wNTUpfnT
@yeshediez5605
@yeshediez5605 Жыл бұрын
@@FattyTrades thank you kevin. Just one more question, do you give some kind of paid training, or similar where I can access all your knowledge. I like how you analyze and I am a faithful reader of your twitter as a viewer of the youtube channel. But if there is any other place where you can be located, let me know, thank you very much for everything
@31wolram
@31wolram Жыл бұрын
Does Negative Vanna mean that the stock price is likely to go Down?
@FattyTrades
@FattyTrades Жыл бұрын
No it just means as price moves towards that negative vanna, dealers would buy if it’s under the current price and sell if it’s above. Negative vanna is a repelling force
@paulstone9755
@paulstone9755 3 ай бұрын
Im more confused after watching this video.
@Macyver180
@Macyver180 Жыл бұрын
FattyTraders crushing it. Best follow out there.
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