If weekly updates didn't exist, the current problems could have been solved a long time ago and the real focus of the game would still be the PVE interactions with the world of Deepwoken rather than weekly patches that only draw people away from the main game into instanced servers

Deepwoken released as a pve game where pvp helped you get what u needed for the pve now it’s a pvp game where the pve exists for getting stuff to pvp with

tbh when layer 2 floor 2 dropped i thought it was out of place for deepwoken's current style at the time, the same goes for a lot of mantras that don't fit into the game like stupid aoe and things like flaming scourge just does not fit deepwoken's style i feel like. I liked the game's medieval style with a hint of magic a lot more than what it is now. edit: I would have rather had new expansions to the game's overworld map than other things as well. There was some very easy options for islands they could have added such as the islands on that early game map like geoduck cove and lungfish keep sounded soo cool. Just additions to the environment in general would make the game a lot more immersive into its world and new things to discover. (just adding on as i watch through the video(ended up turning this into an essay))

once conquest comes out they will will focus on updating that more than the actual game, when chime came out their main focus was balancing pvp for agess not adding content and so on, conquest is not what deepwoken needs

Deepwoken feels like "I'm playing to make something good to fight other players", and not "I'm playing to explore the game"

Its so disappointing, the game lacks the exploration aspects that it once had and it feels like everything that isnt a gamemode has been abandoned. the vibe the game once had has been lost.

over a year since the poll is crazy. they better be cooking some shit rn

2:55 holy clutch

this is actually a good vid nice editing

tbh i get what youre saying, But i think conquest wouldnt entirely fall under scope bloat because theyve done conquest in rogue too. I would assume they always had it in mind when making deepwoken

YES THANK YOU! I have had this feeling about the game for so long! So much content right now just feels so out of place. And a conquest and even void tower feels like they don't belong in the game. Why does a perma death rpg focused on horrible afterlife dimension spend over a year adding a leage of legends gamemode?? How the heck does that make sense?!

beautifully said selectorch, deepwoken is a badly executed masterpiece of a game, it has so much potential yet lacks exploration and other important aspects of a roguelike. game does feel like a sandbox

scope bloat has got to be the best term I've heard relating to the current issue with deepwoken

I think with conquest they are trying to set a good PvP game mode what will really help its lifespan then they will hopefully work more on pve and the world

scope bloat describes the game perfectly

Adding new islands without also adding an equal amount of content in that island is a step in the wrong direction tbh, so I'm not surprised they haven't done it

I wish chime never existed and all the efforr that has gone towards conquest instead went towards making overworld/depths a much more fun engaging experience

I've been saying every update is to distract from the overworld, and they have such an easy fix make chime conquest and battle royale weekends only add more island and overworld content but instead they chose to focus on these alt gamemodes its sad.

Bro the blurry background is gonna make me blind

Years later, Deepwoken 2

I haven't seen this guy in quite a while

and also they made a stupid shadow update just to make the elevator near the fucking squibbo they legit made the walls unclimbable

anyone know what the clothing id torch uses for his player in deepwoken?

World events should've been added instead

so true

0 dislikes, goat video

can vetex let us change our first magic in nimbus part 1 pls:D

tbh i think the worst part about conquest is that it shifts focus away from the overworld, just like how chime did when it got added. i don’t get why the devs are so keen on adding “gamemodes” (chime, battle royale, conquest, etc.) instead of finding ways to incentivize overworld pvp. it’s just super lame

bro cooked

feels like verse 1 was much better and harder rather than now which everyting is so easy to get

they better be cooking

The game is fine the way it is though, even if they added new areas every week, people would only stick to areas they know to be useful or efficient for farming

Womp womp

banger

It’s not looking good for deepwoken the games description doesn’t match the gameplay anymore I don’t want conquest I want world events I want map expansions I don’t want deepwoken to become just a pvp game

tbf my thoughts on it are: they're js not smart enough 1. arch's already talked about how there are issues he wants to solve or change but he js can't come up with a way of doing it cause all these updates were made without surveillance or long term thinking and now it's so webbed he can't directly mess with it without annoying ppl, legit js not knowing how to manage your game is what I mean. 2. p sure he wanted to add an overwhelming amount of content but deepwoken's main seller is pvp, deepwoken isn't verdant moon and the focus of it was the catchy mechanics so when he started tweaking pvp related stuff to better fit players, we kept on asking for more until it took over the team's minds for the most part, and it IS working LOL only a minority actually cares about anything other than pvp. 3. deepwoken's lore is whatever, any writer can think of catchy stuff like it, it's js more progressed than other games due to its funding so it feels heavier (the lore itself is all over the place but it's not that awful), not revolutionary though, it's also easier to experience compared to other games outside roblox so I can see why if it was your first time playing one of these you'd become hooked. 4. there isn't a way to shift the focus to lore currently, zero chance you can make the players love the lore more than they love making themselves feel good on a well made build, the only ones who don't are the ones pre layer 2 who still have that initial notion of mistery the game had on release, you progress to fight and it'll stay that way.

(he doesn't know layer 3 is on testing)

When I saw world events I imagined that deepwoken would take on traits of something like say Helldivers 2, for example. In Helldivers 2, player deployments to different planets repels back enemies and slowly leads to planet liberation. The devs direct attacks and where planets need defense, but the way the game develops is in a way, up to the players in the end. What I'd imagine for Deepwoken is like this, players can participate in different factions and encourage their expansion or recession as events around the world occur. Islands would sink, territory be lost/gained, advancements made, etc. It would be something interesting for players who want to explore and do PvE, but also give overworld PvP more of a purpose. You could make guilds "Authority Aligned" or "Etrea Aligned" and more, and two guilds of opposite alignments would be encouraged to fight each other, it would reinvigorate ganks. Some CC games have done this, but I feel Deepwoken could also possibly pull it off. It wouldn't just be world changes either. Say Ignition Union wins territory or something, maybe that leads to research and then boom, new legendary weapon made by ignition union. Ministry sinks an island, and some new relic or weapon curse is made because of that. It's possible, biggest proof? The entire April fools joke shows. The devs can track kills, across the ENTIRE GAME from ALL players in a SPECIFIC group, maybe make it in invisible, but just let players know that depending on what sides they help, the world would change as a result. It would provide lord nerds content, pve players content, and pvp players reasons to fight all at the same time. It doesn't have to be weekly, that would be way too harsh on the devs, they could make it monthly, and that would be perfectly fine. Some months would even be slower than others, that's fine too. Just make it so there's a reason seasons and years pass in game, make it feel like the world is actually changing as time progresses. It's all a big pipe dream really, but the idea is there. I just really don't like the instanced gamemodes, people already thought chime was pushing it when it first came out, now we literally have a whole instanced league of legends gamemode coming, it sucks.

Is deepwoken not like eldin ring but now it feels like elding/battleground game

torch can talk

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As a new player to deepwoken, I gotta admit this game ain’t fun😢 like u spend so much time making a build then afraid to lose it then as the result all cuz of the permanent death system like bruh I don’t feel like I’m playing a rpg game no more like the feeling that u may lose ur build that u spend so much time on just keep me back from exploring the game

holy shit only 725 views in 5 hours damn

its not gonna kill the game, coqnuest is gonna release and die in a month at most

game was good for like a few months before the entire friend group got bored of it catering to pvpheads ruined the game

deepwoken was never a pve game pve is just a mandatory annoying step to make your build no one actually has fun with pve

hi

the game was doomed the moment any gamemode was added, chime was the only decent one (didnt totally ruin the immersion and gave bad ping players a small chance of getting good)

Exaggeration on that title much? 😭

Hollow purple.

The people who plays deepwoken (mostly teens) kinda pushed the devs into this direction.

i agree