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@@renerowe14715 i can’t believe he said roy keane an Lampard were better

Shearer... for Newcastle, most of his time there they were a mid table unit. How can you leave him out!!!!! Most Prem goals ever! If he had played for united he would of scored well over 300... I'm sorry but Shearer is the best No9 in premiership era.

De gea!!!

Just started the video and ain’t no fucking way he said that 😭 I’ll be back…

​@@Conker66 Mate he also said KDB definitely doesn't get in the team because he's not technical like Gerrard or Lamps 😂😂, and Rooney was better than Thierry Henry.

Ade loves the misfits boxing pantomime 😂

Haven’t watched the vid yet but I mean if you’re not talking prem only it’s a debate. Don’t forget Pogba was intrumental to Frances wc and won like 4 scudetto and got to cl final w Juve. Ability wise Pogba is up there w the best

@@mattiasedlund5395it’s not a debate. scudetto and CL finals doesn’t make you KDB level

As a man United fan have to agree with you😂 best midfielder in premier league history and I grew up in the scholes lampard gerrard era.

recency bias at its finest take him out of the most expensive team to have ever been assembled and replace him with gerrard scholes or lamps and they embarrass not only his numbers but importance on the pitch

@@Max-kx9wydid u not see when he was at Wolfsburg

@@Max-kx9wy 1. Factually it’s just not the most expensive team ever assembled with Chelsea and Man Utd outspending city in the last 7 years since pep came. Also inflation of not just transfer fees but revenue so u can’t truly tell if older teams were more expensive. 2 kinda proves my point more that in these Pep super teams Aguero, Silvia, Yaya, Rodri, Haaland and KDB has been the best player… Shows how Unreal he actually is. 3. The 4 are All completely different and offer different qualities. Scholes could control a game, slow it down speed it up. Passing was unbelievable and scored more than a couple important goals to win Man Utd trophies. Lampard was very good player id argue out of the 3 you mention the best…goals, assists and turned up to win his team silverware (also I’m basing this off my opinion and eye test of who I prefer). Gerrard was an unbelievable player but…let’s not act like he didn’t play with unbelievable players cause this is a fake narrative. Kuyt, Xavi Alonso, Torres, Suarez, at the time Sturridge, coutinho, Sterling, 2009 and 2013 could ans probably should have won the league. Gerrard was a great player, but name me apart from tackling one attribute Gerard was better than KDB at and I’ll concede…but u can’t 👑

His level of competition is so low. Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, Viera etc all competed against each other. De bruyne is competing against Jordan Henderson and granit Xhaka 😂 Only real competition he has was Kante who was injured a lot and he lost to him and got taken off in the game that mattered most and Kante came out on top

na zola or hazard mate, de bruyne would be 3rd if anything

​@@onset6ix kevin de bruyne is better than anyone that has even looked at your club

@@jordanfirecracker4653 u sound like a young fan that just dis-regards the 2000s like that wasn’t the peak of football 😂 it’s okay though sports as a whole is just opinionated.

⁠@@onset6ixif de Bruyne had transplanted his team and personal achievements into Chelsea you wouldn’t argue. 5 prems, threepeats, CL, both trebles ,centurions, being only being MESSI in the assist stats for this century.

​@@jordanfirecracker4653Lampard> KDB but KDB>Hazard and Zola

gross

He had a boxing KZfaq channel way before talk sport and DAZN you missed the come up

Lampard is closer to Jonjo Shelvey than he is to KDB.

​@@TP-pq9xx Oi don't chat about Shelvey he's one of the GOATs

🤣@@robbiecale3327

​@@TP-pq9xxKDB is closer to Gerrard then Lampard

@@Mavolovolo-zc4lmbro KDB is better than Gerrard 😂

Saying somebody is an elite player and in the conversation for best pl players ever isn’t disrespecting them.

@@grahamsmith1674 mate he compared Pogba to De Bruyne

Yeah that's disrespectful to be fair ​@@emilevangheem6165

Just curious but would you rather have kdb or lampard as your main goal contributing midfielder? Lampard scored a stupid ton goals himself while kdb would set up more for the forward line😅

@@nilavabhadra5561KDB has a better non penalty goal ratio per game in the prem than Lampard.

Yes 100%

They give too much respect to the english guys ,because they're english.KDB is the best midfielder of the current ERA.They literally said the English national team we're the best players ,but not really they were overrated af.

@@MrFirFI KDB is in the conversation with Xavi Iniesta Zidane Mordric as being the GOAT midfielder yet he worse than all the names mentioned. Plus PAUL POGBA the most overrated player in history.

I'm a United fan, KDB is the Greatest midfielder in PL history, it's not even close. What I find crazy is they've got 0 Man City players in their PL XI, Man City have won 7 titles in 11 years 😂😂. No Walker, KDB and barely a mention about David Silva, Yaya and Aguero is crazy

Nah. Most of City fans have been watching football since 2011 so there’s a recency bias. There have been many midfielders better than KDB. Good player but needs to have more years at the top to make the list but then he is 30 already

By your logic, Alvarez for City is one of the greatest ever players because he was won everything. The reason he's not even close to the 11 in the video is not what his teams have done, but him individually. Gerrard individually was immense, his team however was shit (except in 2005). And I'm saying that as a Liverpool fan

@@travisross7656his team was not shit. Reina Carragher Alonso Torres Kuyt Arbeloa Mascherano Keane

its because of the 442 to 433 thing

@@peterkelly1515 Hahahaha it’s mad how you added some really average players to prove that Gerrard played with good ones. Generous to call Carragher, Kuyt and Reina above average

Try 0 players from team that has won the PL the second most, and has also got the highest point total ever. That's a disgrace.

I think Gerrard and kdb would be ridiculous together both could do everything

@@mark-134multiple champions leagues and win gerrard multiple prems

No way... I think Lamps is the best CM the prem has ever seen.

@@FlashUx what a suprise

@@FlashUx Maybe he was before 2016. Not in the conversation any longer.

Yeah I agree a midfield of Kante Gerrard and De Bruyne would function the best in a real match too.

@@JD-hx7yd Id have Vieira instead of Kante just cos of his size but yours isn’t disrespectful at all. That’s logical. Rory’s is totally ridiculous 😂

@renerowe14715 Think the difference can be negligible when comparing the top players. Like there are so many 30 goal a season strikers you could pick from, so the team would be solid either way lol.

@@JD-hx7ydYeah you’re really nit picking when it comes to these great players but some stuff is just common sense. He listed 6 midfielders that are apparently better than KDB. Absolutely ridiculous 😂

@@renerowe14715 🤣

Kante over Vieira isn’t comical. Argue it either way it’s pretty close

Kante was a one man midfield. He was outrageously good at what he did. People underrate him big time

Kante won the prem with Leicester don't forget

dont forget vieira won the world cup and the euros back to back, 3 premierleague and 5 fa cups while he was an arsenal player@@utd927

and was a leader in a team that didnt finish below 2nd 8 years straight@@utd927

Pogba clears him. If both played under pep for this city team. Pogbas best would be better than de bruynes

⁠@@ANG-dw9zqthat’s the biggest bs I’ve ever seen, pogba had his chance in France and united and he flopped

​@@ANG-dw9zqI agree

@@ANG-dw9zqexcuses excuses excuses

@@Deathmare235 never flopped anywhere, this bs argument people perpetuated cause he was a 90m pound player, when we have routinely seen that no one apart from Mbappe that has had a massive price tag has ever lived up to it. Issues at United and never building the team around Pogba was the reason his time at United didn't turn out the way it could and should have with his talent. As for France, give me a break. Dude was top 3 most crucial players for France, and did everything that was required of him and more. While you can argue he didn't meet expectations at United (and how could he given how delusional they were), you can't doubt his quality any time he was with France!

he's probably better in attack then walker ngl walker can be useless least neville could put a good cross in

Nah Neville wasn’t that good and was slightly overrated. No top club wanted him back in the time and he wasn’t good going forward. For a decade (2000-2010) there was a void of good right backs in league. He can belittle himself or do whatever but even back then I never thought he was anything special.

no top club wanted him, he was at the top club lol

@@DarnallDubois that doesn’t even make sense lol. Ronaldo didn’t leave to play golf. 3 champions league, 1 of them fluke, doesn’t make man united a top club. It’s not even the top club in England and never was

@@TheGreatVivek7 who was the top club in England then in the late 90s / early 2000s

KDB definitely, and whilst I’d personally go Salah, I wouldn’t disagree with someone choosing Beckham instead

​​@@dannymccrea9642yep. becks are better. heck I would have Mahrez before Salah to service cr7. I hope after salah retires people will realize that mane not Salah is the Man that won lfc their pl and cl

@@asruluveira Mane was definitely incredibly important, but to say Salah wasn’t a key part of them winning the UCL and title is just silly, he’s been amazing for Liverpool for a while now. And I like Mahrez, but not over Salah

@@asruluveiraSalah is easily the best winger in prem history

The disrespect Salah gets is unreal. Unbelievable player.

Michael Owen robbed

Gets a mention but isn’t top 3 mate

Henry, Rooney, Aguero, Shearer were better than Kane. Not worth mentioning when talking about all time prem strikers tbh.

@@billycole7419 Bro, you can think Rooney is a better player than Kane, fair enough. But theres no statistical evidence proving your claim Rooney is a better striker. Rooney has never won a single golden boot in his entire career in the prem, meanwhile Kane has 3. Kane also has 213 goals in 320 games for tottenham; Rooney has 208 goals in 491 games for a team that essentially dominated Britain for several years. There's no proof in saying Rooney is a better striker than Kane. Also, idk why you're so willing to write off Kane compared to Shearer and Aguero. He has the same goal to game ratio as Aguero whilst playing for a significantly inferior team, whilst also having only won 1 golden boot compared to Kane's 3. And Kane also has a 0.10 better goal to game ratio than Shearer. I dont know what you're looking at to hypothesise that Kane is not worth talking about in the all time best convo. Thierry Henry is the only one you mentioned who is defo above Kane as a striker. The rest though have no backing statistically in proving your claims.

@@donegal7 biggest yapper on the internet mate🥱Kane played in a team where he was the main target man whereas in that United side Rooney was along side many top players capable of slotting goals away. your argument is statistics… there’s something called the eye test and if you genuinely think Kane is a better striker than Rooney then you’ve clearly suffered a knock to the head

@@Achysx So essentially, goal scoring just doesn't matter then? So Kane scoring significantly more goals than Rooney throughout his whole career means what then? So your test for being a better striker is literally 1.) if you play for a very good team 2.) you score a considerable amount of goals, then you are automatically a better striker than someone? Just so you know buddy, a striker's job is to do none other than score goals. Thats why I highlighted that people have every right to say Rooney is a better player, cos he compensated Ronaldo's lack of tracking back, for example; and he was instrumental in that regard. But just cos he had a team of superstars around him that doesn't make him an undisputed better striker than Kane. Stats are important for a striker, and are if anything the only position that show some consistency with watching them play. Even when Rooney played purely as a striker he only scored 0.46 goals per game, which is actually pretty tragic compared to Kane's and Aguero's and Shearer's etc. Now you can spin it all you like that Rooney was a 'tArGeT mAn'. But I want a goalscorer as my STRIKER; a guy who scorers a lot of goals. The statistics, which are very very valuable in this regard, do not lie. So before calling me a 'yapper' why don't you analyse your argument more, rather than just saying 'kane was the main man'; completely disregarding players like Son during his tenure at Tottenham.

He’s the worst of the great bunch, makes sense why he’s not in there

@@iniester6724No he’s not. He’s gonna end up better than all of them when it’s all said and done. So in what world is he worse than them?

he's really not tho, recency bias is a real thing...steveie g. Scholes and Lampard were doing what kdb is doing now, if not more before...if kdb wins another 3 league titles then maybe...rn he just isn't in that convo but that doesn't mean he isn't great @@rajkaranvirk7525

Becks wouldn’t make the squad. In fact, he wouldn’t make the reserves or the third team squads. Great crosser and free kick taker but nothing more.

@@miles3379😂😂😂 clearly 10 years old

@@pastorfred587 game of opinions. 46, not 10. Not that it matters.

if youre 46 im michael jackson@@miles3379

@@miles3379you are funny

KDB is nowhere near Zidane. And hasn't done it at international level, like Xavi and Iniesta. Quite a way to go at European level as well.

@@beatonthedonis You're comparing Spain, who arguably had the greatest generation internationally to Belgium?

@@pfft5795 Belgium have had a tremendous generation of players. Not as good as Spain 2008-12, but good enough for a player like KDB to shine.

@@beatonthedonis and he did, if you look it up, it's Lukaku being wasteful, Hazard has also been abysmal, but he could still sneak into an all time PL 11. Reality is, KDB is up there with the greats. Both Lampard and Gerrard were part of England's golden generation and they achieved about as much as KDB did with Belgium. It's about time people put their bias aside and realise that KDB will go down as one of the greats.

@@pfft5795 I definitely think KDB is on a par with Gerard and Lampard (maybe even better).

No he wasn't. He wasn't as good as Rio or prime VVD, especially prime VVD was a whole different animal. I think Maldini said he was the most complete defender he's ever seen, Michael Owen said the same too

Many would disagree with you but that's not the point. When you are one of the very few centre backs to have ever been made PFA player of the year in modern history, when Roy Keane says you are one of the best players he ever played with along with Ince and Scholes, when millions of irishmen put you ahead of Roy Keane - well the point I'm making is you deserve a mention.

I watched and loved Torres. I remember the day he signed He was nowhere near Suarez and Salah levela

The injury ruined Torres and he was never that good to begin with.

Lol, how did he ruin his legacy? He just chose winning Euros and World cups with Spain and played through pain to ensure it happened. 2x Euros and a World Cup + everything else he won at club level is a pretty decent legacy.

completely agree with this!!

​@@stonedvillain79Tarnished is maybe a better word

Why you saying hazard like he’s no a premier league great😂

@@xpds5543 Definitely.I’m surprised Rory didn’t go with Cech James, Lebouef, Terry, Cole, lampard, Kante, Hazard, Zola, Robben, Drogba. I mean 5 players from Chelsea is clearly not enough. Doesnt matter that City have won the League 7 times in the past 12 years. Clearly none of their players is Good enough.

​@@fodellci was going to watch the video but i said "you know what, lets see if there is any controversy" and my god i don't think I'll watch this video after all this is outrageous 😂😂

No he wasn't, he joined Chelsea in 2006,and only won 1 PL there (2009/10 with Ancelotti). Still best LB in PL though

Nothing biased about that comment mate. A few mentions though, and rightly so. Walker and KDB are in my squad. Yaya, silva, aguero, konpany all have MASSIVE claims to be in there too

City is like Madrid. They dont stick with players to cement the legacy. You are used at your peak and dumped for the next hot thing. Yaya was almost getting into this 11 until Pep arrived. Walker has been rotated and benched and all sort of everything under Pep. Even the just won Treble there was a time he was being benched. Silva and Kompany are great shouts, but whoever they are rivalling in the midfield are absolute monsters PL legends that played for over a decade at top level. KDB is the only serious candidate given that he is the only iconic number 10 PL has ever seen. But again, KDB is just pure talent and not all rounded. I would love to have KDB in the team, but the problem is "over who though?" Gerrard and Lampard and Viera. Gerrard is undisputed. KDB cant play 6 like Viera. So KDB can only replace Lampard. But Lampard numbers are ridiculuous.

City just have zero aura a proper plastic club

​@@utd927kdb better than any united player ever

It is Premier League XI for a reason and not World XI or International XI.

Well, it is called EPL All-time 11..yet you are talking of international tournaments. And then, you are talking of EPL being weaker. Its actually weaker now more than ever. It's just City alone with no one else. Do you know what EPL was like between 1998-2008?? Wenger's Arsenal, Mourinho's Chelsea, and Fergie's United. This was the era that sold EPL to the world and the competition was like nothing ever seen. Lads be thinking EPL is competitive now, yet the competition is at the bottom and around 4th-7th. EPL is very weak over the last decade, and thats why even Leicester managed to pull a miracle. People would throw in Klopp's Liverpool, but it baffles me how that so called great team has won one EPL title since Klopp arrived in 2014. Thats a decade with only one title. Lol.

@@benedictadeya8370 I like that you managed to make several contradictions in such a small passage of writing

@@benedictadeya8370it’s literally the highest rated league in the world, with 3 different clubs winning the UCL in the last 4 years

Will he stay in the Prem though? Can’t see him staying at City after Pep

@@NotRealMusicRyanI think him staying or not has nothing to do with pep

Ronaldo wasn't mid-field. He was a forward and target man.

@@miamitten1123 At United he played wide right in a 4-4-2. So yes, he was in midfield.

One season.. are u insane suarez is one of the top 3 strikers of all time

@@akramebrahim1446 I urge you to seek immediate professional help for your mental illness

Even through Ronaldo has a better peak he can't go in the team Salah Rooney and henry stayed more

Rory proving time and again he has no clue what he's on about. De Bruyne with polio is still a better footballer than Keane

​@@ironheade22 If that's the case then Scholes with polio is better than De Bruyne

@@guilhermevieira6010 De Bruyne with leprosy, Crohn's disease, and AIDs is better than Scholes

@@ironheade22 Scholes at 50 years old with no legs is better than KDB

@@guilhermevieira6010 he never had any legs anyway. Fat, short, pudding of a man who could hit long balls under no pressure. Would be at Northampton if he played in this era

18 year old Gerrard destroyed him

By 2004 Vieira himself said Gerrard had surpassed him

Gerrard dominated him multiple times Viera said it himself

@@HiiB3RNI4N No he didn't lol

@@davidbowen6284 Yeah he did in interviews just because you don’t want to believe it you claim it’s made up

Trent is one of the most disrespected players right now

Kante is better than viera, he had much better feats

So 6 time PL champion leaves if VVD wins 2???

no its not

@@itwoznotme yes it is. Quality of the teams are much better than they used to be as well. Kevin is the best midfielder in premier league history

You do realise KDB said he was influenced by scholes

@@maccamorrice3054 yup im aware of that but cmon he’s definitely top 3 at this point even you know that 👍

​@@ojaspednekar4260who's was a better footballer than both lampard and gerrard he controlled games on his own

No he belongs in the all time pl and its not a debate

Want some pepper with your 🧂 the GREATEST no discussion needed he's in and everyone picks him anyone with a brain anyways.

@@cavanriley7373 Why would I be salty about a player that has won the same amount of PL titles as me?

@danielsmart8013 because you can't stand a player with ZERO leagues is the best. Shows how shite the others are the fact he's number 1 and always will be.

I kinda disagree mate tbh, Kante is the Best Midfielder I've seen in my lifetime (I'm 19), Done Everything , Literally Everything whilst being 5'6 and Being the most humble player ever, I guess if I would have watched Keane and Viera then they probably all are as elite as each other

@@jesseperity8989 - if you were old enough to have watched Vieira, you wouldn't disagree at all. Arsenal always finished in the top 2 from his first full season in 1997 right up until he left in 2005. Won PFA in 2001, a period when Utd won 3 titles on the bounce. He often gets left out, imo because people usually glorify goalscoring threat above all else, but he dominated games and often came out on top in battles against Lampard/Gerrard/Keane.

​@@Bradclarttrue

Might as well mention you're a United fan while you're at it. Having Ronaldo for his time in the league over Salah is absolutely mad and no Gerrard in the midfield 😂

@@lawrencebaker1811 Salah instead of Ronaldo is arguable but Gerrard for me doesn't get in there, guy never even won the league

@@lawrencebaker1811 Ronaldo won a Ballon d'Or in the Prem, Salah hasn't.

Salah has 3 golden boots from the right wing, like be serious @@TP-pq9xx

Salah 3 golden boots from right wing tho@@TP-pq9xx

*Currently

@@nathijomac anything lampard, gerrard or scholes can do with their strong foot, De Bruyne can do with both with 10x more precision

Alisson is catching him up. The ability to play out from the back can't be discounted. Cech benefited a lot from being in a more defensive team

De Bruyen isn't better than Gerrard

Salah is nowhere near that team

@@Luke-jd7rf why is that then , who is over him

@@damienboxford4946 easy he’s won one premier league title.. Rooney and Ronaldo are both 100000 times better than him.. The midfield is hilarious aswell Scholes pisses in as does Lampard again miles better than salah 3 United players from a team that dominated the league for 20 years 😂 hilarious

@Luke-jd7rf salah is better than Ronaldo was in the prem and Rooney is a number 9. So salah gets in. I do agree the midfield is a joke de bruyen and Keane no chance. You need a 3 Gerrard, lampard or Scholes and viera or Keane.

You can blame it on Pep and City's sign and sell policy. City has no players rooted to the club for long compared to others. Players come at City and go quickly. The only names that can get into all-time 11 is KDB. The rest are just shoutouts but aint got no chance.

​@@benedictadeya8370 Aguero, David Silva, and Kompany were there for 10 years. That's longer than a lot of players that would get in people's lists

@@benedictadeya8370that is completely wrong, that’s United and Chelsea not city

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ironheade22was aguero better than Rooney? No. Was David Silva better that Lampard/Gerrard? No. Was Kompany better that Terry/Rio? No. The only city player who could feel disappointed about not making the team is Kdb.

City second most titles please the disrespect. Liverpool, United top two in England no questions asked. Fact!!

Salah has a better Premier League legacy than

@@lew0071 3:1 on PL trophies - don't think so.

@@nathijomacmore golden boots though and always had a good season

@@Deathmare235 who cares?

@@Deathmare235ronaldo had better seasons than salah bro because ronaldo was being compared with the best in the world whilst salah was never the best in the world

Your comment is recency bias.

@@SteveAustin-zv1nn probably a mixture of both, but city are going to win 4 in a row (never been done) and a treble last year and he has been their best player. Gerrard won 1 champions league and a few league cups

⁠​⁠@@joemartin9065Kdb played with one of the greatest teams of all time. Gerrad was a one man team. Also you can’t just use 4 premier league titles in a row like it’s already happened

@@surraka9153 I said are going to, not they have. That’s just my opinion

@@joemartin9065 If I say Bellinghams going to be the best England player ever cuz he’s gunna win 3 ballon dors I can’t use that to support a claim.

3 in a row, won everything he could in England including a Champions league and premier league double, back to back POTY and a ballon d oro on top of that. The absolute pinnacle of entertainment and efficiency. Yet despite all of this he doesn’t get in? Mental. This combined with his take on KDB reminded me why I stopped watching Rory

@@pabloalvarez2967 These guys have such a big platform yet dont know when cristiano ronaldo left man utd its absolutely embarrassing

@@pabloalvarez2967 Everything you said is right. But do you realize those are 3 years?? The players picked ahead of Ronaldo did what they did for 7+ years. CR7 is the easiest person to leave out when it comes to the front 3. We are talking about Henry, Rooney, and Salah here. Even if it werent for these 3 names...there are several others before CR7, including Cantona, Shearer, and Beckham.

@@benedictadeya8370 and in those seven + years none of those hit the combination of heights and achievements Ronaldo did. It’s called an all time premier league XI. So you put an XI full of the best performers that have played in the premier league. And Ronaldo should undoubtedly be there

@@kzee2005 shows you they only watch their own teams

‘the back 4 was pretty easy’ 😂 terry is the only prem defender to be in x5 combined world XI’s, clears virgil although he does edge him in prime.

De bruyne over Gerrard or Scholes or lampard really. Gerrard alone was better . He could play all 3 midfield positions and did

@@onset6ix Van Dijk is the only defender the PL has seen who was undoubtedly the best footballer in the world. For a good two years, he was spectacular and should’ve won a Ballon Dor. Terry was never that, and Ferdinand was also better than him. So he doesn’t get in.

@@damienboxford4946 was torn between de Bruyne, Lampard or Scholes, but similar with Van Dijk. De Bruyne is and has been the best player in the world for a good 2 years or so. None of those 3 were near that.

@ryanclark541 yes now he is but name me 3 that get close currently. When Gerrard, lampard and Scholes where playing, there was loads of great midfielders ie Zidane, kaka , seedrof, pirlo, xavi, iniesta, ze Roberto, ballack, alonso. So I would have been hard to be the best. De bruyen has no competition nowadays. But he would make it above any of those 3 in the prem

It's Neville for now...another 2 years and Trent will be pushing for that RB slot.

Walker now .​@@calgon5689 has surpassed neville

Ronaldo?

@@realgems24 yeah he was probably the hardest to leave out, but he didnt do it for long enough in the prem for me to put him in my team. He had a couple amazing seasons for us, but it was at Real Madrid he hit his prime. If he had been at United for 3 or 4 seasons more, I would 100 000% put him in my team.

@Laboon89 The last Prem player to win the Ballon D'or, United Peak player ever, won your last CL title. Done a lot for a short period of time

Couldn't agree more. I recall him getting absolutely twisted up by some of the premier league's cannon fodder, with Vidic often bailing him out.

​@@ochukwu that's when he was not in his prime anymore, in the early 2000s he was nothing short of world class

@@guilhermevieira6010 I saw two solid seasons from him at United.

@@ochukwu you were too Young to see the other Seasons then

@@guilhermevieira6010No, I'm 'old' to have actually seen what REAL world class centre backs actually look like. I imagine your football knowledge (and exposure) is probably very shallow. Don't fall for the 'youtube' footballers, mate.