Decimal to IEEE 754 Floating Point Representation

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Abishalini Sivaraman

Abishalini Sivaraman

7 жыл бұрын

This video is for ECEN 350 - Computer Architecture at Texas A&M University.

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@raufasadov5572
@raufasadov5572 6 жыл бұрын
I have one question for you. I will appreciate it if you will answer it. 1st q: How did you find out the exponent bias for single precision is 127?
@Voider6211
@Voider6211 6 жыл бұрын
The formula for finding the Exponent is: 2^(k-1) - 1. Since you have 8 exponent bits, replace "k" with 8 in that formula. You get 2^7, which is 128. Subtract 1 from that, and you get 127 as your final answer. :)
@abishalinisivaraman7767
@abishalinisivaraman7767 6 жыл бұрын
We have 8 bits to represent the exponent. We can represent 2^8 = 256 numbers with 8 bits. The bias is considered to be half of it minus 1 so that we can represent both positive and negative exponents.
@ashish_wanderer
@ashish_wanderer 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for this information
@mohdtazammul4699
@mohdtazammul4699 6 жыл бұрын
And it is 1023 for 64 bit which is called double precision.
@krishnabhat547
@krishnabhat547 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@andrei_balea
@andrei_balea 3 жыл бұрын
Four years later, and my classmates and I will pass our exam due to this legend. BIG THANKS Edit: we did it boissss
@cristinacatelina7819
@cristinacatelina7819 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@ak01ops3
@ak01ops3 3 жыл бұрын
congrats !
@sayan_dasgupta
@sayan_dasgupta 3 жыл бұрын
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@mynameissamy
@mynameissamy 2 жыл бұрын
5 years later same thing, and congrats
@Florian-sh9nf
@Florian-sh9nf Жыл бұрын
Two years later, and this gave me hope to pass my exam today. BIG THANKS
@tan8067
@tan8067 4 жыл бұрын
You explained this a billion times better than my Professor who has a PHD in Computers! Thank you so much! You are God sent!
@veselinjokanovic3032
@veselinjokanovic3032 2 жыл бұрын
People with PhDs in computers get swirled into talking about irrelevant and overly complex things very easily. Its hard for them to stick to the point.
@AnuragSingh-fd7nc
@AnuragSingh-fd7nc Жыл бұрын
Professors get so much better at what they do that they forget what it's like to learn it for the first time or what it's like to not knowing these things, it becomes very obvious to them.
@laxativz
@laxativz Жыл бұрын
phd in computers
@MAK_vid_oz
@MAK_vid_oz Жыл бұрын
i agree with you sub apnu manjan bech rhy hn sajhny waly dhony prty hn
@ArpadHorvathSzfvar
@ArpadHorvathSzfvar 6 жыл бұрын
I can not understand the people who voted it down. It is a very good explanation.
@peacekeepermoe
@peacekeepermoe 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because they still don't understand it LOL XD
@kevinspacey6090
@kevinspacey6090 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because is yet another indian xD
@MrLerrab
@MrLerrab 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because she's a scammer
@MrMineHeads.
@MrMineHeads. 5 жыл бұрын
Because it is a kid and those uni students feel insecure about a kid teaching them.
@moksha93rd
@moksha93rd 5 жыл бұрын
Because they're from UT
@hadiasghari2266
@hadiasghari2266 5 жыл бұрын
Better than my prof in University
@pfg222
@pfg222 2 жыл бұрын
Right!!!!!!
@weirdinternet7
@weirdinternet7 Жыл бұрын
How did he get 23 in mantissa? I still can't understand this part? Where did 23 come from?
@tebohomokoena8483
@tebohomokoena8483 6 жыл бұрын
Exam in exactly 8 hours, thanks a lot
@aquual1462
@aquual1462 6 жыл бұрын
4 hours :X
@adilberkani9763
@adilberkani9763 6 жыл бұрын
2 hours :c
@xristarasb
@xristarasb 6 жыл бұрын
8 AND A HALF :P
@ZeyadMounir
@ZeyadMounir 6 жыл бұрын
27.5 hrs :P
@ahmedsarsor5854
@ahmedsarsor5854 6 жыл бұрын
11 AND A HALF XD
@Liam-bp2rm
@Liam-bp2rm 4 жыл бұрын
Came for the help stayed because "howdy"
@EdwardForgacs
@EdwardForgacs 4 жыл бұрын
She's from Texas A&M, what did we expect?
@wachowski9525
@wachowski9525 3 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardForgacs when in Rome...
@sammosavarpour9214
@sammosavarpour9214 2 жыл бұрын
You explained how to do this in less than 10 minutes and were very clear. It took my professor almost 45 minutes and no one understood what was happening. Thank you so much!
@MAK_vid_oz
@MAK_vid_oz Жыл бұрын
😅same issue here thank for this video
@ujajsultanhasan4620
@ujajsultanhasan4620 5 ай бұрын
Jaja💩
@amirbarjakli3383
@amirbarjakli3383 5 ай бұрын
lol same
@Aluminiaum
@Aluminiaum 9 ай бұрын
I felt like tearing my hair out when this was being taught in my computer architecture and organization classes. Its actually unreal how well you taught this topic as opposed to working professions in some universities. My sincerest thank you
@SPARTAN_B-312
@SPARTAN_B-312 5 жыл бұрын
who else but indians to save the rest of the world's IT and electronics students...
@MohammedRedwan
@MohammedRedwan 4 жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@mayankdeshpande7212
@mayankdeshpande7212 4 жыл бұрын
She could be from America too you know
@stephan6334
@stephan6334 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. She is obviously from America
@spagussy
@spagussy 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayankdeshpande7212 i mean if you ignore her accent sure
@zakenmaru8612
@zakenmaru8612 4 жыл бұрын
She is Indian American as this is from Texas AM University
@manifi_art
@manifi_art 6 жыл бұрын
You made such a difficult question so easy! I am linking this video to my professor so people who have difficulty with this format can get help as well! :)
@raghav_sharma
@raghav_sharma 5 жыл бұрын
this video was so wholesome I stopped thinking about my exam and just thought how good this kid is teaching .Hats off brother . Thanks a lot .
@lorian4366
@lorian4366 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I have rarely seen such a splendid, easy to understand explanation on how to convert decimals. Good job on you for making this vid; there's a reason it has so many views.
@Worldnme
@Worldnme 6 жыл бұрын
have a exam tomorrow thanks a lot
@alexcipriani6003
@alexcipriani6003 5 жыл бұрын
When university prof can’t explain with the ease of this teenager 🤦🏻‍♂️
@pittmandavis1360
@pittmandavis1360 4 жыл бұрын
Best explanation ever! I watched several videos and followed many tutorials, and I did not learn how to convert to binary32. Now, Abishalini's excellent method of explaining this makes it very clear. Thank you Abishalini!
@richmondokine5280
@richmondokine5280 10 ай бұрын
This concept has been obscure to me for a very long until I watched your video. Thanks so much. This is golden
@aaronlee660
@aaronlee660 5 жыл бұрын
a clear explanation that saves a lot of reading time. Much appreciated
@siawoshehssan1357
@siawoshehssan1357 2 жыл бұрын
he really taught me better in 5 minutes than my professors have all term. good work!!!!
@sick0_69
@sick0_69 Жыл бұрын
actually it's a girl
@akhmadsw54
@akhmadsw54 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the most precise explanation of this. Thank you so much! You have provided an ultimate explanation!
@alicialedesma417
@alicialedesma417 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I have yet to hear! Wonderful. You did a great job. Now I am ready for my quiz tomorrow.
@ultralife7727
@ultralife7727 4 жыл бұрын
This was the most clear and helpful lesson I ever had on youtube I think. Thanks a lot !
@khalilebdelli6199
@khalilebdelli6199 Жыл бұрын
5 years later , who would've thought someone from the other side of the world would find this extremely helpful and saving . thank you so much for doing this
@MAK_vid_oz
@MAK_vid_oz Жыл бұрын
yes yes ofcourse studenst are stuck in university professors lecture which cointain 45 min and no one can understand any of this. Allah kry hamry teachers ko samj ajy ky student ky mind ko kessy prhaty hn we have not good enough teacher but good enogh enough degree personn p.h.d , masters etc
@Zapdatt
@Zapdatt Жыл бұрын
I have came back to this video so many times. The explanation is just so good and easy to understand, thank you very much!
@bobapthorpe
@bobapthorpe 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Clearly explained and sets the stage for discussing roundoff error (reverse the process and compare the result with the original) as well as for showing oddball bit patterns indicating floating point exceptions, denormal numbers, etc.
@ILanoFamily
@ILanoFamily 5 жыл бұрын
You explained this more better than my professor. Thank you!
@artaway6647
@artaway6647 4 жыл бұрын
Man, my exam are in 1 hour, thank you very much! The sound of pen grazing the paper is really therapeutic haha
@Edin12n
@Edin12n 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much. The explanation was very clear. One of the best technical videos I've seen on KZfaq. You have a real talent for explaining. Please keep helping us : )
@jerome8660
@jerome8660 5 жыл бұрын
Over 1 hour in University explained in 10 Minutes, you are great man! I have understood everything even without voice
@PierLim
@PierLim 5 жыл бұрын
You have a gift for teaching, great job!
@weirdinternet7
@weirdinternet7 Жыл бұрын
How did he get 23 in mantissa? I still can't understand this part? Where did 23 come from?
@diogocortez6023
@diogocortez6023 5 жыл бұрын
Melhor que muitas aulas em universidades! Parabéns!
@elwont
@elwont 4 жыл бұрын
this video is explaining this topic clearer, preciser and easier understandable than any other out there right now... big up!!! get tha credits!!
@ODja-eb4gf
@ODja-eb4gf 5 жыл бұрын
I want to personally thank you for this. You're great.
@paz.255
@paz.255 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way she pronounces the word "two". Good explanation btw ; ).
@nelsonraley
@nelsonraley 4 жыл бұрын
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@hmm7458
@hmm7458 4 жыл бұрын
indian accent😶
@user-is9fv5bi7x
@user-is9fv5bi7x 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Sorry for my bad english, I am from Russia. No one could explain this method such easy.
@geraledineduchenne2058
@geraledineduchenne2058 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos! They are super clear and short. Love it!
@InfinantGamers
@InfinantGamers 6 жыл бұрын
I've tried a lot of conversion videos and this one was the best! I understood it immediatly, thank you!
@weirdinternet7
@weirdinternet7 Жыл бұрын
How did he get 23 in mantissa? I still can't understand this part? Where did 23 come from?
@MrGuitarMix
@MrGuitarMix 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone here for exam who know they will never need IEEE 754 notation in life anymore?
@stephan6334
@stephan6334 4 жыл бұрын
Pressure sensor at work, spits out IEEE754 on UART. :)
@ProtoForte
@ProtoForte 4 жыл бұрын
for some coding projects it's good to know for example if you have limited space on any device, it's good to know that floating point in this notation only requires 4 bytes (32 bits)
@RedBar3D
@RedBar3D 4 жыл бұрын
I like to know what I'm working with.
@mordecai8707
@mordecai8707 3 жыл бұрын
you can say that for any subject except STEM
@kevinburger4749
@kevinburger4749 3 жыл бұрын
In embedded systems programming, a programmer is often writing code which operates at a low level by dealing with bytes and bits. Suppose you are writing code for a product which employs a microcontroller and you are using some communication protocol, e.g., SPI or I2C, so the microcontroller can communicate with an external device, e.g., a shift register. Suppose we are transmitting the value of a floating point number, e.g., you are programming in C and the data type of the value is double, which is represented in IEEE 754 notation. During testing you discover that the shift register is receiving a value which is different than the value stored in a variable in the microcontroller, i.e., you have a bug in the transmission code. So, you hook up your oscilloscope so you can view the signal being transmitted. The signal should go high when transmitting a 1 bit and it goes low when transmitting a 0 bit. You need to determine where a wrong bit is being transmitted because that will help you locate the bug. Therefore, you need to know the IEEE 754 binary floating point representation of the double value being transmitted so you will know when a 1 or 0 bit should be sent.
@rolipoli7601
@rolipoli7601 4 жыл бұрын
u have the cutest voice
@MrKevin-wu8re
@MrKevin-wu8re 2 жыл бұрын
Helo, we ar tring to help yu, these es da maicrosoft soport teem
@calt495
@calt495 6 жыл бұрын
I have never seen this way to find the binary form, and frankly it is awesome. Thank you.
@waltpires231
@waltpires231 5 жыл бұрын
Oh Jesus, this explanation is awesome...you made it very clear and simple to understand.
@jayblankenship1553
@jayblankenship1553 3 жыл бұрын
"howdy", as an American I'm forced to give you 2.5x respect for that.,
@manuelwills6149
@manuelwills6149 Жыл бұрын
This is a practical example of abstraction! Making complicated system so easy and simple to comprehend!! Million THANKS!!!!! Abishalini Sivaraman!!!!
@jacobsanchez1587
@jacobsanchez1587 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! (Sorry for my bad English.) -From America
@adammbq
@adammbq 5 жыл бұрын
what?
@adityyuh
@adityyuh 4 жыл бұрын
Lmap
@slimanianis1373
@slimanianis1373 4 жыл бұрын
Bring tom with you sorry for my bad english
@prasanjithlorensuhewa6689
@prasanjithlorensuhewa6689 3 жыл бұрын
I have one question for you.I will appreciate it if you will answer it.In this IEEE standard there are two terms called Min exponent and Max exponent.In single precision(32 binary format) values of these terms are -126 and 127 respectively.So we get exponent bias by Max exponent.Could you please tell me what is the use of Min exponent and how is it determined?
@johncochran8497
@johncochran8497 2 жыл бұрын
The IEEE standard has 4 different concepts to handle. 1. Non infinite normalized numbers 2. Non infinite denormalized numbers 3. positive or negative infinity. 4. Not a number. Used for error indications that propagate so it doesn't have to be checked for every mathematical operation. Notice that the range -126 t0 127 represents a total of 254 distinct values (don't forget the 0). But 8 bits can represent 256 distinct values. The 2 extra values are used to handle infinities and denormalized numbers. Number format s eeeeeeee mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm S = s E = eeeeeeee M = mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm if E is 00000000, the number is denormalized, value is (-1)^S * 0.M * 2^(-126) 00000001 - 11111110, number is normalized, value is (-1)^S * 1.M * 2^(E-127) 11111111, number is either infinity (M=0), or a NaN (Not a Number) if M 0. Notice that for the denormal numbers, that the most significate digit of the mantissa is 0, while for the normalized numbers, the most significant digit is 1. The most significate digit IS NOT EXPLICITLY STORED. That lets the IEEE standard squeeze in an extra digit of precision. So binary32 is consider to have 24 binary digits of precision, while only storing 23 of those digits. Same for binary64. Considered to have 53 digits of precision, while storing only 52. By the IEEE standard, Min will always have a magnitude one less than Max. So for binary32, we have 8 bits for the exponent. Since we have to account for positive and negative exponents, we have Max = 2^(8-1)-1 = 2^7-1 = 128-1 = 127 Min = -(Max-1) = -(127-1) = -126 For binary64, we use 11 bits for the exponent, so Max = 2^(11-1)-1 = 2^10 - 1 = 1024 -1 = 1023 Min = -(Max-1) = -(1023-1) = -1022 Doing it that way allows for the all zeros or all ones value of the exponent to handle denormal numbers as well as the special value infinity and the Not a Number error indications.
@TheAntonioclewis
@TheAntonioclewis 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncochran8497 John can I pay you to tutor me lol.. It is funny but I am serious. Please reply
@johncochran8497
@johncochran8497 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAntonioclewis I'm willing to help you, but don't require any money. Perhaps this book drive.google.com/file/d/1-nWgEU-RcliZGmYIEQmoy43UocDUhHUQ/view?usp=sharing will help a bit.
@Jv-bh2kc
@Jv-bh2kc 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure this out for 2 hours, my professors explanation sucks and this is by far the best video on KZfaq thank you so much
@user-vn6bj3xb7k
@user-vn6bj3xb7k 4 ай бұрын
i can't explain how much you saved me... really thank you
@SPeeDKiLL45
@SPeeDKiLL45 5 жыл бұрын
you hope it was helpful? hell yeah it was !
@murigig
@murigig 4 жыл бұрын
Forget about IEEE754.😪..your handwriting should be a font 🤯
@TheArtist558
@TheArtist558 6 жыл бұрын
wow, u just cleared the thing in which i was confused from last 4 years. thank you so much.
@GwydionTheQuick
@GwydionTheQuick 4 жыл бұрын
Very clear and step-by-step explanation of the IEEE 754. Thanks!
@obada.
@obada. 4 жыл бұрын
every one in here is preparing for a damn exam except me. i'm not even studying IT, but i'm deeply interested in kinda things
@Ashley-tn6jh
@Ashley-tn6jh 5 жыл бұрын
81 pieces of shit,that was so good
@haos4574
@haos4574 5 жыл бұрын
excellent explanation, all of a sudden I understand how and why, much appreciated.
@shashankbhosagi
@shashankbhosagi 2 жыл бұрын
Short and Best Explanation of IEEE 754 format for Floating Point Representation I found on KZfaq Nice :) Thank You!!!🙂🙂
@mumtajbegam3942
@mumtajbegam3942 5 жыл бұрын
Your voice is so pretty
@MyGdoggy
@MyGdoggy 5 жыл бұрын
pretty sure its a young boy
@jetacedark123
@jetacedark123 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyGdoggy the channel has a girls first name, and plus this is for a university class so she cant be a young boy
@MyGdoggy
@MyGdoggy 5 жыл бұрын
@@jetacedark123 Yeah you're right, she has a different video and you can see she's a girl. My bad.
@ItsRawrTopia
@ItsRawrTopia 5 жыл бұрын
@@MyGdoggy you so funny... This kid is funny
@tomcatuk3956
@tomcatuk3956 6 жыл бұрын
You are really good at teaching! You made something that seems rather complicated appear so easy!! Thanks!!!
@TheGallyp
@TheGallyp 4 жыл бұрын
This video so simple to understand. Thanks much. This was more helpful than anything else today.
@docmaynard1934
@docmaynard1934 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job explaining a simple process that so many cannot explain!
@hipsepipse
@hipsepipse 3 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to understand this for days!!!! Thank you sooo much!
@dibbyabarua9499
@dibbyabarua9499 3 жыл бұрын
You are Awesome!!! Very clear and concise explanation, and very detailed example.
@tanmaychandra9434
@tanmaychandra9434 3 жыл бұрын
Best Video Available for this topic so far.
@victorboateng5449
@victorboateng5449 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
@ernestoyounes2946
@ernestoyounes2946 4 жыл бұрын
I just watched this video about an hour ago and it helped me on my exam a lot, thank you so much dear!!!
@adamloepker8057
@adamloepker8057 11 ай бұрын
Best summary so far, thank you!
@ikkatosh231
@ikkatosh231 2 жыл бұрын
Legend, thank you
@aoyang7752
@aoyang7752 4 жыл бұрын
You explains this amazingly clear, thanks a lot
@LFSPharaoh
@LFSPharaoh 6 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely mind blowing. You are a genius and have great handwriting.
@dubaifatimaali
@dubaifatimaali Жыл бұрын
This was far most easiest and interesting explanation anyone had ever done it. Good job buddy 👍 and thankyou.
@JBPoisonIvy
@JBPoisonIvy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Such lovely writing and voice, and an amazing teacher on top of that!
@RadiantPaladin4
@RadiantPaladin4 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video a lot. My professor has a very thick accent, and while I know he really tries his hardest to help us learn the material, sometimes it can be difficult to parse what he's saying. This explained it very well, thank you!
@VijaySingh-hz6vx
@VijaySingh-hz6vx 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this video there is no confusion now, in IEEE 754 Thank you.
@damienstowers2536
@damienstowers2536 5 жыл бұрын
You are the GREATEST! This helped me so much!
@rebecamonteiro4393
@rebecamonteiro4393 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much my friend You're saving lives here
@TheDjarto
@TheDjarto 6 жыл бұрын
Damn! No one could explain any better than you. Thank you!
@yashmahendrapachchigar7251
@yashmahendrapachchigar7251 2 жыл бұрын
You are a legend. Thank you for saving me before my mid terms.
@Fedeposter
@Fedeposter 10 ай бұрын
videos like this make some part of youtube way way better than college.
@marianov7927
@marianov7927 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I didnt understand it at all when my professor tried to explain it, and you explained it better in just 9 minutes. Great work :)
@weirdinternet7
@weirdinternet7 Жыл бұрын
How did he get 23 in mantissa? I still can't understand this part? Where did 23 come from?
@a2aasmr410
@a2aasmr410 7 жыл бұрын
I love your video, especially that you keep all the work on one sheet since we can keep following A big thank
@ketchart2789
@ketchart2789 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your way of teaching is excellent
@likeit1982
@likeit1982 3 жыл бұрын
The best explanation after after watching many videos. Congratulations
@mikeahmed7092
@mikeahmed7092 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Job! You Explained it Much better than my professor and the book combined.
@Brossion
@Brossion 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much. U explained so well that i dont have any question in my mind anymore. It was so difficult to me at first but now i can easily calculate the exponent and the mantissa.
@OlaDuda
@OlaDuda 5 жыл бұрын
You have already saved my life! Greetings from Poland. Good job :)
@Genius_Li
@Genius_Li 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! It's help me and the description is clear and simple!
@thegyaansource9219
@thegyaansource9219 4 жыл бұрын
I see many videos but your video means your teaching is so understandable for me . keep it up and thanks alot
@TheMrjaskiratsingh
@TheMrjaskiratsingh 4 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video out of curiosity but the explanation is so good that I watched the full video, and I'm probably never ever going to need this but the tutorial was so good that I got a fairly good understanding of IEEE 754 anyhow 😅
@knedl1k_
@knedl1k_ Жыл бұрын
What an awesome video that totally saved me. Thanks so much for being this helpful.
@megarix007
@megarix007 5 жыл бұрын
Yet another russian dude here. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Wow, just wow. Best explanation video ever, thank you for taking your time)
@abdullahaksar9084
@abdullahaksar9084 5 жыл бұрын
Thx you so much...No one can explain this thing as easy as you did .....Even I can`t understand this thing from my teacher ....
@kashj1059
@kashj1059 6 жыл бұрын
very good detailed explanation..... even those who dont know anything will understand by this explanation.... great work!!!
@nikolettavasilelli591
@nikolettavasilelli591 6 жыл бұрын
seriously, you did a great job explaining it!
@uniquemaths2227
@uniquemaths2227 Ай бұрын
Great Explanation.You have Explained everything with this one problem . Awesome 😇
@sahilm483
@sahilm483 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible video! Bravo!
@opinionatedjam
@opinionatedjam 2 жыл бұрын
That was OUTSTANDING!! Thank you sooo much! This helped tremendously :D
@ryanbernadett9372
@ryanbernadett9372 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the best explanation possible!
@chinpangli157
@chinpangli157 2 жыл бұрын
You saved my test! Thank you :)
@Andre-ah
@Andre-ah 6 жыл бұрын
Helpful and excellent presentation. I found this useful for my Computer Organization course. Thank you!
@hasithashan
@hasithashan 5 жыл бұрын
You explained that so well! Thanks!!
@requiem8940
@requiem8940 3 ай бұрын
Oh man so to the point, thank you so much for this
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