Exactly that, theres a certain point at which an engi literally becomes a far stronger scout Bouncy nukes are insane, max. 6.6 effect radius but it took me a while not to blow up teammates with it

Sounds like a great way to get kicked because you killed everyone by accident lol

@@Ironface53 I get teamkilled by drillers c4 more often than I teamkill with the nuke. Because if you aim right, it's a long range miracle

@@knaif32 "bouncy nuke" seems like a recepie for disaster to me

@@Ironface53 it sounds more like a thunder impacted but in a cave! Jokes aside im not gonna lie i also rlly like it just because it looks cool🤫

I used to pronounce it as "War Dog" instead of "Wart Hog" and I think the former makes more sense for a (military) weapon

@@zakkymiftahurrahman1665 "War Dog" sounds like a name for a badass overclock.

War-thog, it fucking killed me hearing that. 😂😂 I felt a part of my soul detach and drift away into the ether.

Fr!

not just an engineer but an architect too

Unlike your ammo.

What are some of your favorite loadouts? I play engineer the most but I'm still pretty green with only 1 promotion so I'd like to know.

@@invurret9533 Single target primaries and crowd clear secondaries, descending order of usefulness: 11111 Executioner Loki or 21321 Cycle Overload Warthog and 21123 Inferno Breach Cutter or 31113 VIR Shard Diffractor or 21122 RJ250 PGL. Crowd control primaries and single target secondaries, again descending usefulness: 22221 Turret EM Discharge Stubby or 21111 Explosive Chemical Rounds Loki and 31111 Efficiency Tweaks Shard Diffractor or 21122 Hyperpropellant PGL. Turret should always be 1221 for maximum usability and damage output. Platform gun should always be 212 as other upgrades in the same tier are irrelevant. SSG is best in slot for grenades for most players, Lures are better if you know how to use them. Proxies are more useful for meme instant kill of Dreadnought than for actual defense. Plasma Busters got made redundant by SSG. Armor and pickaxe are personal preference. Resupplier/Born Ready/Vampire/Dash/Iron Will for perks as on every other class. (Sweet Tooth for builds that can't use Born Ready, and Field Medic over Dash for Scout, but neither of these apply to Engineer.)

@TooFewSecrets thanks, this is really useful. I'll be sure to update my upgrades and whatever overclocks I need.

@@invurret9533 Overview of each weapon just for the sake of more information. Exe Loki: Highest overall single-target damage for Engineer other than Hyperprop, which can't sustain for very long, or Breach Cutter spam, which is overpowered in general. For very big targets, light them up with your secondary if applicable (RJ250 can't realistically do that) because you can get the damage bonus for shock and fire separately. For dreads, switch to 11312 because you can't light them on fire anyway. Same for robots. Using this with Inferno BC is the best overall Engi setup, though if your Driller is asleep at the wheel swarmers will be very expensive to deal with. Don't use Loki for single-target without Executioner, it just doesn't really work. CO Warthog: Entirely for dumping damage into close-range targets, small or big. Your secondary is definitely more for large groups of targets with this gun, and turret whip can help with those too. Whip is more efficient than a normal shotgun blast as long as the explosion hits at least two enemies, so against groups you should generally be doing that and saving magdumps for big enemies. This upgrade set will work with any other OC except Mini Shells. If you want a meme autoshotgun build focused entirely on the shotgun and not on turret whip, 12322 Mini Shells is probably the most practical but it's not actually that good. Inferno BC: Any build of BC is overpowered and kills whatever you point it at pretty fast. The shown damage reduction is a lie, you actually do more overall damage with Inferno against targets that don't resist fire (but most of those resist electricity anyway so it's not much of a loss). Technically not exclusively crowd control, you can cook praetorians and even oppressors, but using it like that is going to leave you low on ammo in most public games. Tier 5 B is preferred by some players just to fry swarmers. Lightweight Cases and Stronger Plasma Current also work with the same build. The other OCs are kind of memes anyway. VIR SD: Best overall for Shard Diffractor. You can use like five ammo to fry a lot of grunts. Get a feel for how fast the game lets you flick your aim and still leave a solid trail of lava. Two lines will do it for swarms, or sporadic fire directly underneath a big target can light it up and do decent damage at long range for cheap, which is good if you're stuck with a shotgun. Can also do decent damage directly fired at a crit spot on most enemies, but if you're exclusively doing that you want Efficiency Tweaks instead so you're gaining 75 ammo instead of losing 50. 3111X is generally the best setup, 3121X for ABC and OB. RJ250 PGL: Self explanatory. Shoot it at grunts or swarmers to kill a lot of them. Shoot it at your feet to flex on the scout. I don't actually use this very much but it's the best way to run PGL as an AOE weapon. If you're getting annoyingly close to lighting up grunts but can't properly set large groups of them on fire take one of the damage upgrades instead to make it basically guaranteed. Essentially you never want to shoot this thing at big targets, that's the main downside over other secondaries. This exact upgrade set is optimal for every single PGL overclock, except Fat Boy which wants velocity instead of fire in tier 3. EM Discharge Stubby: Place a turret down, build it, shoot it a couple times, instantly kill a dozen grunts. Tap fire at single targets to slow them down and deal damage with high efficiency even without the turret burst. This also works to "paint" targets for bonus damage with Shard Diffractor. At close range even against single targets the EM burst is stronger though. With this thing your turrets themselves are the area denial, not their firing arcs, so prioritize that. Self damage is literally 2 points for each burst thanks to several different reduction multipliers stacking, even on Haz 5, so just ignore the inevitable voicelines. By far the best in slot for crowd control. Stubby honestly sucks with any other overclock. EM Refire is best with 11221 IIRC, but it's stuck not having good single target or crowd clear. ECR Loki: Three round burst will kill a grunt and do good damage to anything near it. Bigger targets will be slowed by the shock effect so they can be easily killed by your secondary. The issue with this gun is that it's annoying actually landing exactly 3 rounds on targets, and any more is a waste of ammo. Obviously any less than 3 is also a waste of ammo because you lose the shock and the explosion entirely, and the actual bullets with ECR suck. Still very effective if you get good with it. Outside of ECR and Exe the Loki is kind of underwhelming at high difficulties, the other OCs don't add much combat ability. ET SD: Zap targets with your primary, then blast them with this. Aim for crit spots whenever you can, obviously, and swap back to primary whenever your target isn't currently shocked (assuming they're able to be shocked), because 33% is a big multiplier. Kills just about anything pretty well, but dreads are unfortunately both shock and fire immune so this isn't an ideal setup for them. Might have too much ammo, consider taking direct damage in tier 1 if that's the case. It's best to go no OC (or VIR) for this purpose than any of the other gimmicky magdump-based OCs. Hyperprop PGL: Delete anything in the game. You only get a couple shots with this, but each one will cripple any big target it hits. Don't ever shoot this at something smaller than a praetorian. The fire damage reduction is glitchy with Hyperprop and ultimately does not actually reduce direct damage at all, so it just lights things on fire for free. Also, make sure you're hitting crits with each shot; when you only have 11 of them you need all the bonus damage you can get. Kind of a meme option just from sheer lack of flexibility compared to Breach Cutter, though people treat it more seriously than Fat Boy.

Elevates it to a painful slog

​@@hornet3758 not really

Ever heard of Maxor? His editing style makes you feel like your on speed, literally. It’s super fast and near psychedelic

just make sure you have the inertia inhibitor upgrade for this to work consistently

To be fair gunner has a lot of tech with b-hopping while firing his primary guns and overall ziplines are very useful in many situations, like they're better than platforms to get yourself off the floor while scanning the platform during the omen machine events.

@@aarepelaa1142 Fair point I wasn't trying to undermine gunner or his many skills and mobility options I just didn't know engi could be that creative thanks for pointing that out tho

never forget where we came from. shoot bug mine shiny rock is how we build this empire and therefore every build should elevate your shhot bug mine shiny rock- game not replace it.

same goes for plats, tho in other situations feels really weird

@@01eksii you can control your momentum well enough in midair that play momentum doesn't feel necessary or helpful to me anyway.

yea, that used to be my build, but I then realized i was going a lot shorter distance than i was without the momentum affecting the rocket. If you learn how to break your fall without the momentum amplifier, you can go much farther and higher with each blast.

Sounds logical but I've had the opposite experience personally, without the upgrade I'll hit it 19/20 times

Or just use proximity mine no fall damage trick

Yup. Also as I mentioned in separate comments, the smart lock with the chem rounds is a bad recommendation to be giving out as it works against the OC. Also the T2 and T4 recommendations on the Shard seems super questionable to me. Repeating myself here since I imagine more people will read your comment then mine. Anyway you have some good info in here about plat strategy with engineer that I don't always see covered on other channels so def a useful video overall. But I def think you should update the info you got wrong here in your follow up video and this one's description.

All explosive damage doesn't apply armor break at all. Explosive (well, radial, explosive is a damage type and the type itself doesn't cause the bug, the AoE does) weapons with a direct damage component apply armor break with only the direct damage part, but they still don't get the intended other effect of armor break mods where the shot that breaks armor does full base damage to the enemy. Hyperpropellant doesn't get any benefit because the 400 base damage will break any armor anyway and it doesn't get the carryover bonus, same as every other aoe damage source. This also matters for shard diffractor by the way. Other significantly impacted weapons are the Autocannon and Hurricane. Fire is bugged with hyperpropellant because the game tells the fire mod to halve explosion type damage but hyperpropellant turns explosion type damage to disintegrate type damage (to make it decent against bosses and to give a cool disintegration effect on kill) so there's nothing to halve and the fire effect is just free. The EPC Burning Nightmare mod and the BC Inferno overclock have similar bugs with type conversion but theirs just ends up with them doing slightly over 100% of the listed damage.

@@TooFewSecrets Yes I pinned this in the comments, I saw that armor break is bugged on hyperprop. When I compared the damage it was a lot more with incendiary, like double the damage I often make mistakes toward the end of making a video. Will adress this in a part 2 :)

@@knaif32 I know! Just explaining why it happens.

Yeah I don't take armor breaking on any PGL setup until it gets fixed. And personally the homebrew powder isn't consistent enough to pay off on high hazard missions.

Yea the deep fried shit is headache inducing.

What are you both talking about? The editing is obviously pure genius

I made that sketch when I was moving from the middle of nowhere to a city. I didn't have access to my pc or internet for like 5 days so I thought why not :) I am making more by the way! Currently close to releasing a part 2, it will most likely be done by next thursday

Sorry for any English mistakes (not my native language).

Understandable. It is a literal nuclear bomb, what's there NOT to love

Thanks man, that's one of the best compliments I've ever gotten :) I'm glad to see people can still appreciate hard work on KZfaq, the current trend of cranking out as much brain-rotting "content" as possible makes it hard to get anywhere with quality over quantity. But comments like these give me optimism

needs to work on keeping sound levels similar throughout the video though lol

personally I have to click off because of the editing..

Yup you're 100% right. I tested all my PGL builds and armor breaking is completely useless in every one of them. Gonna highlight this in part 2

Those are the same thing A truly enlightened engineer does not care about being sane, and as such is often insane The engineer capable of MAXIMUM

Some could say this is the same thing, insanity is the key to enlightenment

Multiple connections are risky but definitely fun Also, yeah its a good habit to just spam on every high-up nitra you see and/or go to it yourself by climbing. I always keep the ammo steady when theres lately teammates that way

Wall connections are bad because they will allow bugs to cross, reinforce the bottom area instead, and it's quite rare for it to crumble anyways even with exploders as they leave small stripes behind. Im wondering if you can actually make a filter of sorts based off the gaps the bugs can cross, bigger ones can cross larger gaps, so maybe you can make only stuff like oppressors and pretorians able to get on the bridge somehow, most likely by just making the opposing route a lot longer so small bugs go there and bigger ones take the shorter route. Also maybe you could turn the top of one of the platforms into slag and run it across to the oppressors side to make it even more likely for the oppressor's to circuit around if they somehow end up spawning near the other entrance.