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DEEPOWER 1.25" SOLID 3 BLADE 125 gr Broadhead Test & BONUS Sharpening Demo
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Күн бұрынThis is a test of the 125 gr 3 blade Deepower 1.25" Solid Broadhead, sold on Amazon. Here is the link: www.amazon.com...
Here is summary of my 2022 Testing Procedure & Scoring w/ the scores of the 125 gr Deepower 1.25" Solid posted in parenthesis as well.
Total Deepower 1.25" 125gr Solid Score: 85.11 = 9 Golden Arrows
1. Flight Forgiveness (20%, 15 pts)
This is not just a test of how heads fly out of my bow, as it was in the past. With a well tuned bow, properly built arrows & good form, almost every head flies well. That's why in the past most heads got a flight score of 9 or 10. But that doesn't help those who may not have perfectly tuned bows/arrows/good form. So now I am gauging Flight Forgiveness. This is based on how the head flies for me, how well it spins, how "sensitive" the flight is to imperfections, & the exposed surface area of the blades. The max score of a Mech is 20 & the max score of a Fixed is 16. The Deepower got 15 pts.
2. Cut Size (20%, 15 pts)
The more tissue being cut, the more lethal the head, all else equal. The entrance cut, total cut, & width of the cut (a crucial variable for bloodletting) are all scored:
The entrance cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" then that fraction is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.875" = 5.25 pts)
The max cut size is compared to a standard of 2.5" as well, then that fraction is is weighted to 7% of the score. (1.875" = 5.25 pts)
The max cutting diameter is compared to a standard of 2.0", then that fraction is weighted to 6% of the score. (1.25" = 3.75 pts)
3. Blades (20%, 18.65 pts)
Initial sharpness (9%, 250 grs = 9.5/10= 9 pts ) & Edge Retention (9%, +50 grs = 9/10 = 8.1 pts) are measured using the Edge On Up Sharpness Tester. The pressure needed for a blade to cut thru a copolymer wire is measured in grams.
Edge Retention is the loss of sharpness after the head is shot in Penetration Test 1, thru 1/2" MDF and 2/3" rubber foam mat & Clear Ballistics FBI gel. For every 50 "grams" of sharpness lost, 1 point is deducted from 10.
What are some sharpness scores for common edges?
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the co polymer wire.
A new high end cutlery edge: ~ 375 grams of pressure.
A utility razor blade: 200 grams.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Ease to resharpen or replace blades is judged & given 2% of the score. (10/10=2 pts replacement blades not sold at this point).
4. Penetration (20%, 16.46 pts)
There are 3 penetration tests:
Pen Test 1: 1/2" MDF, 2/3" rubber foam mat, Clear Ballistics FBI gel. Depth of penetration is compared to a standard of 9" & weighted to 9% of the score. (6.75" = 6.75 pts)
Pen Test 2: Layered cardboard. # of layers penetrated is compared to a standard of 70 layers & weighted to 9% of the score.
(60 layers= 7.71 pts)
Angled Penetration Test: How effectively does the head penetrate 1/4" MDF covered by carpet at a 45 degree angle. This accounts for 2% of the score. (2/2pts)
5. Durability (20%, 19.75 pts)
Each head is shot thru 1/2" MDF 3 times. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 12% of the score. (12 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot thru 22 ga steel plate twice. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 5% of the score. (4.75 pts)
If a head survives that, it is then shot into concrete once. Its condition is judged 1-10 & weighted to 3% of the score. (10/10 = 3 pts)
Steel plate & concrete are certainly not "realistic" mediums, but they do reveal the outer limits of a head's durability.
BONUS: +1 for incredible price
TOTAL SCORE: 85.11 pts = 9 Golden Arrows
Price: $4.66/head on Amazon, link posted above
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@michaelschnitzer4054 Жыл бұрын
The key with the 344 is to make sure u get each edge to 44* and a burr with the 240 grit before moving on to the next grit. Most the work is done changing the original 60* angle to 44*. Once u hit 1200 they r really sharp. Take them to 2500 then polishing oh boy three blade heads can get very sharp.
@mattm4991 Жыл бұрын
So you can’t lay the head down flat? I’ve gone from 220-1000 grit, cuts paper great without folding over the paper but I can rub my finger across blade and not cut my finger. How do recommend getting the right angle if you can’t lay the head down flat on the sand paper? Thank you.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yep. Thought I shared that in the video.
@ewoknative Жыл бұрын
using these currently, performed great with higher FOC arrows but i increased the durability of these MIM (metal injection molding) broadheads by heat treating and tempering them in the oven 400* 1.5hrs. holds edge retention and sharpness a lot longer and the tip hardness is also improved. imo the rock hardness improves from common kitchen knife steel to something closer to tool steal.
@justinpartin8056 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos! With 2 young boys that started archery hunting this year I was thankful to find your videos on the deepower. Might of had take out a second mortgage for broadheads and arrows at the rate there were going 😁
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:) Thank you
@southdakotasaved126 Жыл бұрын
W😳W, great review, I’ve said before that there’s no excuse for anyone shooting junk heads after watching your reviews, now you’ve found anyone on a budget a great head as well!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@donaldbowling8620 Жыл бұрын
Man!!! These guys are really something. Great testing John. Ty for showing us the stay sharp again. Amazing system.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bbmopar3834b Жыл бұрын
Extremely impressed by Deepower! I have their lighted nocks for my crossbow this year.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right?
@maxgeorge8746 Жыл бұрын
I love the 100gn heads. Also using the stay sharp products. Thanks to you and your test. Thank you
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Great.
@Slickheadhunter Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered including weighing the Broadheads? That would be a cool addition to your testing.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
I always weigh them, but it's quite "anticlimactic"-- virtually every head is within tolerance.
@Slickheadhunter Жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I guess that would be a little boring, good to know the weights are that close.
@michaelrosa5410 Жыл бұрын
Thats a slammer for sure especially with a big poundage bows. Flite looked great too. Thanks again John.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike.
@cdp50359 Жыл бұрын
Best so far imo, thank you for the review
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hoosierdaddy3705 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would have shot the sharpened one into the cardboard again to see the penetration difference sharpened blades makes. Love these testing videos, you are FOC KING AMAZING !
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Sharpness doesn’t really affect penetration nearly as much as people think. I’ve dulled broadheads with a file and they penetrate almost the same as those that are razor sharp. Sharpness does affect bloodletting though, as it cuts tissue more effectively and cleanly.
@hoosierdaddy3705 Жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thanks for clearing that up.
@chrisfitch2905 Жыл бұрын
Just orderd a pack for myself. This is a hard deal to pass up. Another great test,
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris.
@JohnLee-vj9lh Жыл бұрын
Nice sold blade head , definitely worth hunting with specially on tough game , nice review John 👍🏹
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mountainview540 Жыл бұрын
I bought the deepower crossbow bolts with lighted nocks. They weigh less than the bolts that come with the crossbow. I'm happy with them. 4 out of 5 work perfect with a 125 grain swhacker. Can't say that for the bolts that came with the crossbow
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@mattm4991 Жыл бұрын
What a great video which I have been looking for, thank you very much
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mtait2915 Жыл бұрын
You should test savage village broadheads they are a cheap Amazon broadhead brand and the ones that look like g5 montecs shoot great and I have harvested two deer with them I would be interested to see how they hold up to your test!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip.
@alexcrispim1425 Жыл бұрын
For a cheap head dam! That's not bad. Love the sharpening. Show that again with other heads, PLEASE!!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@butleroutdoors2188 Жыл бұрын
Now that’s a good performer! Less than $33 for a 6 pack is amazing!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right?
@zachzumwalt8032 Жыл бұрын
I got the 100 grain version after watching your review of the previous model. Out of two different packs I had some very erratic flight upwards of 10 inches of variation out of a bow that shoots larger fixed blades very well (magnus stinger). Maybe I just got some bad heads but they spun perfectly. Only thing I haven’t done is check the weights but I wouldn’t expect to miss my target entirely from a slight weight variation. Might try them again because I like the design and obviously the price.
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
More than likely your bow is not as tuned as you think
@zachzumwalt8032 Жыл бұрын
@@greekmaster1001 that was my old bow so I’ll try again but it would stack magnus and alien heads on top of my field points then about half the deepower would fly way off my point of aim. Some of the deepower heads would fly well, others would constantly hit in the same spot off the mark but in different spots depending on which one I shot, leading me to believe the bow wasn’t the issue.
@IIDASHII Жыл бұрын
I had the exact same experience. My Magnus black hornets fly like darts out to 70 yards. These were pretty squirrelly. My groups at 40 yards opened from 3" to getting worried about missing my target.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
i have noticed the larger cutting diameter heads can get more squirrely, the ones i shoot are 100gr and 1 1/8" and they fly nicely.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. I didn't have that experience.
@billylee2312 11 ай бұрын
My youngest son killed 2 hogs with one shot using these heads. It held up great. He’s using them for deer this year
@LuskArcheryAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Good to hear
@lp7064 3 ай бұрын
Great test! Do you find that the quality is consistent batch to batch? I'd imagine there is significant variation at this price point.
@LuskArcheryAdventures 3 ай бұрын
Well, I cannot test every batch. I can only test the ones that I have. And those performed as shown in the video. But anytime you are purchasing a lower cost head, there is usually going to be a quality control difference versus a very expensive head.
@stevemlejnek7073 Жыл бұрын
I've not been happy with Deepower lighted nocks. Tried both arrow and crossbow bolts. Some never worked out of the package, others worked for a few practice shots, then stopped working.
@HuntsT Жыл бұрын
I was planning on picking up some of those. That’s interesting Johns experience has been so different.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
i agree 100%.
@cyberadventures4845 Жыл бұрын
I'd say same about NAP lighted nocks. Avoid these as well!
@jasonard7227 Жыл бұрын
@@cyberadventures4845 they did the same for me worked for a few shots then nothing a few didnt work out the pack ether. had the same luck with wodys nocks
@josephbucci3749 Жыл бұрын
All the ones I’ve purchased have worked and been as durable as nocturnals. Between son and I we’ve purchased 18. All worked great. Highly recommend
@dozierlester3971 Жыл бұрын
Good one John! Well done as usual. Got a new hashtag for you? #consistentlyinformative I think you would do a great job of testing arrows too? Next chapter or addition? Straightness, weight, uniformity, flight, strength. All right up you alley! #aimsmall #beinformed
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:) Thanks Dozier
@vfonte218 Жыл бұрын
I might have to grab some of these too fool around with. Still love my ramcats
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@jetpilot555 Жыл бұрын
I'm sceptical with the use of stay sharp guide. What did it do to the pyramid tip? I imagine that the pyramid will be hollowed on all of its three sides causing the pyramid to be weakened considerably. The previous strength test is all nulled and void!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
It didn't affect the pyramid tip at all. And it didn't affect the durability by any quantifiable amount. You'd be surprised by how little steel is removed...just a few grains.
@paulcrave3112 Жыл бұрын
The markup on most broadheads must be huge.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right? And advertising is really pricey!
@arupert2007 Жыл бұрын
ADDICTED to your reviews BUT I always wonder why not do an “out of the box” sharpness test? Appreciate the rest after the first test, but for a stats geek like myself, would like to know what the baseline was and how it degraded - love the vids, need more hunting videos too!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you Adam. I always do an "Out of the Box" sharpness test. I just call it, "Initial Sharpness." Those are always straight out of the box.
@Bowhunterohio Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched some penetration tests and through these tests they found that if a broadhead is longer than their cutting diameter then they got deeper penetration. Have you noticed this at all with all the testing you have done? Also, it would be nice to weigh each broadhead in the packs you receive to see how closely they compare. Do you also do spin tests on all the broadheads in the packs to see if they are all straight? Thank you for all the testing that you do. It really does help with choosing what broadhead I will be using.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
I always spin test and weigh the heads I test. I've found just the opposite--the shorter they are, the better they fly and penetrate--there is much less friction.
@Bowhunterohio Жыл бұрын
Ok I probably had it backwards then. Lol. I love the tests. I really enjoy seeing all the different broadheads tested and I like how you test name brand and non name brand. Most other channels only stick to the ones that’s already made a name for themselves.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Really surprised. Great design though. Options for many hunters.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@rogerramjet7567 Жыл бұрын
Think it would be beneficial to shoot a SHARPENED HEAD FOR PENETRATION ALSO WEIGHING EACH HEAD FOR CONSISTENCY. ??
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
I always shoot a sharpened head for the first penetration test. But you'd be surprised by how little sharpness affects penetration. I've dulled heads with a steel file and had them penetrate almost identically to the razor sharp ones.
@482racing4 Жыл бұрын
I have some of each they put out man the 125gr 1 1/4 head is a beast right there with the exodus 1/3rd the price
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@jameydowless4280 Жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks for sharing
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@AC-ut8pl Жыл бұрын
Hey John. I’m a huge fan of fixed blades when I’m hunting elk, but I’m constantly searching for a reliable mechanical for whitetail. What would you consider to be your two favorite mechanicals? Also, thank you for all of your testing videos. I look forward to watching them every time you post a new one!
@TonyFontanesi Жыл бұрын
I think his highest rated mechanicals this year are the Sevr 2.0's. Check out his video on them - they're super impressive. His video convinced me to run them this season.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
SEVR 2.0 & 1.5, enuff said.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
No doubt its the Sevr--I.5 & 2.0. Most durable mech there is.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
i been waiting for this test. i have 18 heads that are VERY similar in design. they have been great, i found the easiest way to sharpen them is on my flat nicholson single cut file, only takes a few strokes to shave hair. these style heads are by far the best deal going. i would honestly choose these over QAD exodus...and i did. the only thing i dont like is that they eat up expensive foam broadhead targets REALLY fast.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
I bought the Deepower pack of 100's over a year ago. I have the soft foam Hornet broadhead targets & I didn't want to pull that head back out of it. I have a couple of self healing foam targets by SEVR that I shoot my Valkyrie broadheads into. If I shoot a Valkyrie into the foam target I actually have to shoot it with 2 Hornets stacked one in front of the other & back it up with a bag target I made. Just don't want to shoot any arrow that goes through everything & then hits a backstop behind it. I'm on flat ground @ 🏡 & I do shoot 3D targets from up in a 🌳 so there's no backstop needed there.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
@@josephtreadlightly5686 less than a month ago i bought a new Delta McKenzie Big-8 target (almost $200). it does stop the arrow fine but when i remove them sometimes chunks of foam come out of the target. it hurts to see my new target losing chunks in less than a month. i think if i only shot field points at it, it would last forever.
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
@@yourmomma2995 Yeh, the 3D targets I use my field points. The Valkyrie system is very different. They make field points with the same Centerpin system that the broadheads have. That means they r match grained to the broadheads. Both the Broadheads & field points have a very high tolerance type of steel that they fly the same as long as all your arrows r the same & tuned perfectly to your bow. But with that system with the field points I have 4 to 5 inches sticking out the backside. It's great for training your brain where the exit hole is when shooting @ different angles & distances from up in a 🌳. More people should very doing it so u get familiar to what is a good shot & what is not. It's not about distance but angle. I use the smaller Delta McKenzie targets so everytime I'm up in the 🌳 practicing I can put 1 in the heart & 1 double lung shot. That's 8 arrows & then I come down from the 🌳 & check the backside of the target.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@staceyfoster3126 Ай бұрын
I got my first deer with the 100gn ones. Nice video! I think you might need to work on your tape measure skills a bit though 👍
@LuskArcheryAdventures 21 күн бұрын
Nice. That’s great to hear
@cosmogervasi4496 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Broadhead, it looked as though it got Sharper after the Concrete Shot ... 🤣👍
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right?
@ericallen2098 Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how these would work out of a crossbow at 360 fps?
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Hard to say...I'd prefer a mech for crossbows, like the Sevr Robusto.
@bradyjones8166 Жыл бұрын
What’s your favorite overall Amazon Broadhead??
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Deepower for a generic--either the 1.5" three blade 125 gr or this solid one or the 1 1'8" solid one.
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
Wow amazing
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right?
@FlyinZX10R Жыл бұрын
They resemble the Tholian spacecraft from Star Trek.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@ApexAdrenalineOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Awesome head for the price!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@scottmyers4802 Жыл бұрын
They use your you tube video on the Amazon site for their nocks. Lol .
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Haha.
@IIDASHII Жыл бұрын
Hmmm...I tried these and I've found them to be a bit squirrelly at 30+ yards.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Interesting...they flew well for me. But they do have a lot of surface area. They got a score of 14 on flight. The max for a fixed head is 16. Max for a mech is 20.
@cray-z7404 Жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures what mechanical scored 20 ???
@jacques13x Жыл бұрын
Hi John. Is it possible to find out what tool steel was used and how hard they made it. To survive the cement block I would say the broadhead should have been at least 55 to 60 on the Rockwell scall. Just surprised it didn't break.
@yourmomma2995 Жыл бұрын
i believe they say 420 stainless and 48 rockwell hardness.
@jacques13x Жыл бұрын
@@yourmomma2995 Thanks bro 👌
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
I'm not really sure. But strength is not just based on the type of steel and hardening process..but the geometry as well.
@chrississon2646 Жыл бұрын
🏹🎯
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
:)
@timothylove8839 Жыл бұрын
Would these be considered barbed?
@r1sabotage Жыл бұрын
No
@bstanley6146 Жыл бұрын
No the way the back edges are swept forward they will not hang up in deer. Pulling mine out of a target is smooth and easy.
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Nope
@cyberadventures4845 Жыл бұрын
Is this considered barbed?
@HuntsT Жыл бұрын
No they aren’t. Compare them to the non-barbed QAD Exodus heads. Same blade over shaft design.
@cyberadventures4845 Жыл бұрын
@@HuntsT Thanks!
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Nope
@JasonW479 Жыл бұрын
You need to make some commission lol. You’re selling a ton of these
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
Right?
@JasonW479 Жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I decided to use exodus broadheads because of your reviews. Glad to report tonight I shot my first deer with one. Quartering towards me. Right behind the front leg, came out right in front of the back leg on the opposite side 🙌🏻. 50 yards and piled up 👍🏻
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonW479 How far was your shot & were u in a 🌳?
@JasonW479 Жыл бұрын
@@josephtreadlightly5686 I was in my saddle , probably 17 feet high. Shot was right at 28 yards
@josephtreadlightly5686 Жыл бұрын
@@JasonW479 Nice, I like the quartering to shot but up close & only when I can come in from above the deer with the broadhead. I setup on deer where the shots r close & most of the time a deer @ like 28 yards is hard to tell cuz of the cover if it's a buck or a doe. In that case quartering to I hit the deer in the chest to the side of the shoulder closer to the neck so the arrow exits right behind the opposite front leg. The deer is close so I am ready & waiting for that front leg to be back & not in a forward position. That way the angle of the shot allows the head to cut through the thoracic cavity & since the opposite side front leg is forward it exits on that side well in front of the diaphragm. Over time I can get every shot along with the deer going down on video. Sometimes the deer gets just out of the view of the camera but u can hear it crash. I hunt tight quarters & a dead deer going 100 yards due to property lines has lost me the ability of a recovery. But everywhere I hunt I have to hunt the fringe & it's always gun season in my area during the rut. With over 30 deer per square mile the opportunity is there but the methods I use dictate whether I can hunt there or some city slicker that just moved into the area to shut me down for good. It's the reality I live in.
@richardsimonson5164 Жыл бұрын
KEep hunting with high fences
@LuskArcheryAdventures Жыл бұрын
I can't remember the last time I hunted a high fence place...but I have no problem doing it...especially for hogs.