DEFCON 19: Hacking MMORPGs for Fun and Mostly Profit ( w speaker)

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12 жыл бұрын

Speaker: Josh Phillips Senior Malware Researcher
Online games, such as MMORPG's, are the most complex multi-user applications ever created. The security problems that plague these games are universal to all distributed software systems. Online virtual worlds are eventually going to replace the web as the dominant social space on the 'Net, as Facebook apps have shown, and this is big business. MMORPG game security is something that is very important to game studios and players, yet bots and exploits continue to infest all major MMORPG's, the creators and maintainers of the next generation of MMORPG's will need to understand software security from the ground up or face failure. The problem extends from software bugs such as item or money duplication, to mechanical exploitation such as botting, which leads to economic forces and digital identity theft. There is upwards of a billion dollars at stake, for both game hackers and game operators. Both Josh and Kuba have explored game hacking from both sides, and this talk presents a pragmatic view of both threats and defenses.
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@jakethewoz 4 жыл бұрын

1. "I wanted to punch the dudes because it wasn't very cool" 2. *lip smack* 3. Drink a liter of orange juice 4. "Noobs need not apply"

@treefrog1985 6 жыл бұрын

Feels good when the crowd goes silent whenever left guy makes one of his lame mean-spirited 'jokes'.

@Rehvidepaigaldus 7 жыл бұрын

Lmao dude on left is a by the book example of a 90s IT dude

@donnyaston8109 8 жыл бұрын

I feel like the guy on the right should've done more talking ...

@interstellarsurfer 8 жыл бұрын

+Brian Fundakowski Feldman It's hard to understand why Lax hated him.

@landon9560 8 жыл бұрын

+Donny Aston (Blac Waldo) Well remember, in the beginning, he said the guy on the right was basically a last minute add-in so his whole "lecture" wasn't made for the both of them, it was made for a strait through talk by the guy on the left.

@jasonsmith7671 8 жыл бұрын

+Landon great point sir i think they were really just full of life i couldn't take my eyes off this talk they seem thoroughly excited with life i think the last time i felt this hyped up was when i done cocaine when on day release after the ten stretch i had to do for being a bore to society. fucking ace man any more vids you know of? PS. the ethernet pull out totally works i don't wear condoms at all just pull the ethernet when I'm coming past the monster and its worked every time even on wifi thumbs up to that tip.

@Niven42 8 жыл бұрын

Two words: gag order.

@TheChiizu 7 жыл бұрын

Guy on the left is putting me to sleep Zzzzzzzzz....

@liquidminds 9 жыл бұрын

someone being so hard against "noobs" should not control powerpoint like one...

@DanWilliamson_profile 9 жыл бұрын

True that.

@FailedSquare 9 жыл бұрын

chris85669 i left two weeks ago, buddy

@tomwatson1 9 жыл бұрын

A noob is what these guys are, they hack because they have 0 skill in gaming.

@tomwatson1 9 жыл бұрын

chris you explained the death of a game, not to play. That's what hacks do they remove the player to an extent depending on which hack. This guys never went pro so they found another way to make money off the gaming industry by reverse engineering the game and ruining the games economy usually.

@tomwatson1 9 жыл бұрын

Well the hacks you create for that game make your character the best. Even if you didn't make the cheat for that purpose.

@phulcrum1984 5 жыл бұрын

Left Dude: "I don't think he realized, I think he was just trying to be cool." Exactly what Left Dude is trying to do.

@praydog1 9 жыл бұрын

Mike was the only remotely interesting speaker here. The other guy was too full of himself.

@VemiX1000 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally, buuuut he kinda can back up the banter tho

@fairguinevere666 7 жыл бұрын

At 25:00 they talked about integer underflow. This actually happened in overwatch in competitive where a person threw all their games until their Elo dipped below 1, and they became world number one.

@Uatemydoodle 7 жыл бұрын

As if a game could ever mess that up...

@MarekMadejski 11 ай бұрын

This was how you got "nuclear Gandhi" in "Civilization"!

@jacksputrid 5 жыл бұрын

1 minute into comments. Starts crafting voodoo doll of “guy on the left”

@lukasmorkunas9356 8 жыл бұрын

Respect to the guy that made Glider.

@mastermill79 7 жыл бұрын

Lukas Morkunas I hope he and all his followers gets terminal hemroids.

@nigeltroy_ 7 жыл бұрын

? I think that your hate is for the guy on the left, not the right.That's some pretty specific hate though.

@IdealContracting 6 жыл бұрын

mastermill79 lol did some botters steal all your mobs? Boohoo

@Aetherlight_ 6 жыл бұрын

What a lot of people don't realize about games that have bots is that they GROW the economy by making gold/items/whatever more available, increasing the supply. Bots were definitely annoying in WoW when I used to play because they would make it harder to do daily quests, but really, it's not a big deal. the only time a bot really bothered me was when it was the same character camping the same spot for DAYS, making a daily really hard to do, every time I went there

@o0Donuts0o 7 жыл бұрын

50 mins and all we learnt was there are exploits and here's a list of them. If this is what is discussed at DefCon then I would be a God.

@aumjayakishatriya2982 3 жыл бұрын

*hacks There is showing of script and they explained what you have to do for altering that script for these, so by definition, they are indeed hacks.

@fromtheptothab 10 жыл бұрын

those guys should attend a speaking 101

@Sawta 9 жыл бұрын

That's the thing though - they don't need to be perfect at public speaking as long as they can get their point across. They aren't releasing a shiny new Apple product or talking about a new car line, they are talking about a minute concept for a specific platform. When you get into topics that are that niche the audience is basically expected to lower their expectations a bit because of how detailed and specific that topic is. It doesn't excuse the lower quality of their presentation, but given how niche the concepts that are being discussed are, it is much more understandable at least.

@adamlechamp1342 9 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This makes for painful fucking viewing. They should just avoid the comedy routine and just get to the technical aspects.

@therawlifefamily 6 жыл бұрын

It was definitely meant for in person viewing.. I haven't watched the whole thing, but you probably can't hear the audience heckling.

@Bvic3 2 жыл бұрын

They don't need to. They are making a lot of money without being pro speakers.

@bobndweave8539 9 жыл бұрын

come back when youve hacked runescape.

@bobndweave8539 9 жыл бұрын

Bobnd Weave : D

@uncutVidsd123 8 жыл бұрын

+Bobnd Weave lol

@Dennis19901 7 жыл бұрын

"Hacked" never happened. Things like item-duping did happen a few times. Also big exploits where people would lose their stuff to others.

@M1mer 7 жыл бұрын

If you use someone's system and use it in ways that were never possible by their design, that's a hack by definition.

@M1mer 7 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_culture First line: "Not to be confused with security hacker." Look shit up before you spread false info.

@healthymango2122 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure if the guy's a jerk or has just really really bad social skills

@kilimangan 7 жыл бұрын

healthyMango both

@octorok 7 жыл бұрын

Ehhh, he mentioned wanting to punch the guy from a previous year's talk for being a noob. I found that talk and honestly it was a lot more enjoyable to watch than his.

@sie11pervan 7 жыл бұрын

It's DEFCON. Honestly, what are you expecting?

@notcomplicit7982 7 жыл бұрын

rootisroot bro what talk was it I can't find it , can you hook a brother up ??

@youtubeuser206 3 жыл бұрын

he said sorry, he didn't think he was that boring

@lorenzohkirk24 9 жыл бұрын

i don't like the way this guy speaks. He talks down to everyone.

@moneyluser5711 8 жыл бұрын

crap talk. almost no actual content. just vague comments.

@altimmons 5 жыл бұрын

They keep apologizing every time they show something interesting. But then get back to such overly general stuff I could have given the entire talk. In 8th grade. Not that I’m intelligent. It’s just that they’re like well you can hack the game. Or you can use bots. And if the game detects you you get banned. Also, there are glitches. If you exploit that glitch you can get something. Everyone knows that, since like Mario.

@mikael9325 4 жыл бұрын

@@altimmons yeah pretty obvious. But the audience is full of adults who don't obviously know this stuff

@daveice20 7 жыл бұрын

where can I find a video of just Mike Donnelly speaking?

@john_says_hi 27 күн бұрын

By remaining true to oneself without seeking to compare and compete you will achieve universal respect

@mardigrasking5456 4 жыл бұрын

I am watching this in 2019 at 480p. man how video quality has changed

@DonTekNO 7 жыл бұрын

9:30 .... at that EXACT moment i spotted in between the mess on my desk, my original disk of HELLGATE London ..... coincidence?! ....

@notcomplicit7982 7 жыл бұрын

Mark Abrams you need to clean your desk ;)

@AlanChavezV 9 жыл бұрын

This has been by far one of the worst talks I've seen in defcon. Let alone his poor communication skills (and I'm not even talking English not being his native language), he just wasn't prepared. Alienating people off in a conference where you're supposed to share the knowledge was just plain annoying. I don't even know how he got to senior level in a company. People without people skills should not be senior.

@jerkchickenblog 11 ай бұрын

someone has to be senior and if you start something yourself, its' usually you for better or worse

@FunOfTheChase 10 жыл бұрын

The part I wish this talk had was more info about the analytics systems the major MMO shops have in place, typically. I mean, back in the day, a game like SWG in 2003, we duped our asses off, and nobody knew about it. Duped items, currency, everything. Nowadays though, I think most major MMO's have some kind of analytics in place that say "ok, this guys account had a major currency spike", or "ok, this guy is in possession of x amount of this rare item, which is worth x value, this is abnormal". You can go on the EVE forums any day of the week and see a guy crying that he got his walled set to negative ISK because they think he received ISK from a known farmer. Obviously, these questions would be pretty difficult to answer unless you've worked on a major MMO recently, but from being banned from MMO's recently, it's reasonable to guess there are some kind of systems in place to automatically flag players for suspicious activity.

@toolzgalore2 10 жыл бұрын

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@WTFWalrus 10 жыл бұрын

godly plate of the whale duping on diablo 1 =P

@Hijynx87 9 жыл бұрын

WTFWalrus That's not an mmo though.

@LiamKarlMitchell 5 жыл бұрын

ELK stack, statsd, graphite, custom analytic tools for warnings Hourly reports for outliers. But you don't want to rely on an automatic ban system for such things...

@faradaysage15 5 ай бұрын

yeras ago, eve had a dedictaed guy looking at abnormalites constantly, great blue team hacker. now that china owns it and eve echoes, meh....farmer bots exist because only the obvious botters get banned. no skill in fighting cheaters now.

@Laserchicken88 7 жыл бұрын

I think Glider and the pathfinder plugin for it made it very advanced for it's time. Even though it was very intensive to run. Props to Glider guy.

@shoooozzzz 7 жыл бұрын

Interesting topics, shame the presenter made it impossible to bare

@sikleqt 2 жыл бұрын

I just rewatched this after not seeing it for, I'm sure at least since it was posted... and man does it bring back memories.

@bradleymorgan5636 7 жыл бұрын

out here trying to find a way to get ahead at the duel area lmao

@archvaldor 7 жыл бұрын

The comments on dupes were accurate. What may not come across because of the context is that ANYONE regardless of educational level and/or programming skill can find a dupe and potentially make a ton of money. You just need to find a quirk in the game itself, no knowledge of code is necessary.

@KoldAsHell Жыл бұрын

How would you go about making money when you find the dupe though?

@DisDatK9 Жыл бұрын

@@KoldAsHell advertising, put it out there that you have found a new dupe method and are selling. You'd have to bring forth evidence, of course, but if you're legit and put yourself out there you will get customers

@cloudybeats8233 11 ай бұрын

@@KoldAsHell Don't bother, most mmos have patched out every dupe that's been found over the years. You'd have to be extremely lucky to find one.

@naromofficial6049 7 жыл бұрын

These guys sound like me when I bullshit a powerpoint the night before it's due.

@TheWu727 9 жыл бұрын

Just letting you guys know they went with in game RMT because it so much easier to track things like - How you attained the cash How possible it is in game logic to attain said cash (such as intermediate logic checks like - did player a attack said npc for item, or attained materials to craft, also having a unique ID set by the server that doesn't call from the client is a good way to check) The bank/account/paypal being associated to cheating, etc. and Tons more, with more people speaking up about the hacks they used, it sets a new bar for hackers to succeed. I would like to add, by hacking (and I'm no anti-hactivist) you are actually allowing companies to attain the rights to snoop and or downright track all information sent by your clients, your programs, pretty much your entire network. These guys MAY say that game developers are "naive" they are wrong. A lot of game developers leave open code in the game, they do so to find and weed out the potential hackers. When a game is released, nobody can really have anything that can give them a leg up. With hackers, they find the immediate function that can be addressed and modify it. This is EASILY seen when using an authoritative server and can be used later legally. My point is, yeah you can make a lot of money hacking and exploiting. But it is extremely easy for the developers, who have experience in their OWN source code to see what is happening. Hackers only have a small portion or a basic picture of all the work behind the scenes but they do NOT have access to the authoritative servers or the back ups on databases unless they do some serious attacks on the server. This is also very easy to confirm and will net you actual jail time. All in all, Video game piracy, RMT hacks, client snoop/ packet adjustments, are all very easy to confirm. A lot of hackers make the misconception that if they don't get an immediate response from the server such as a ban notice or disconnect, then it is safe to proceed. Game developers will set traps along the way and set dummy code to entice the hacker to trigger the trap. This can be done by creating a dummy script with named variables, then a proxy script to deal with the variables before sending away to server. There are many more ways to detect than to hack. Keep that in mind if you are young and are serious about exploiting. I would agree with most to say that, with todays tools, its much easier to just make your own game create a legit and resourceful revenue stream through that. Video games started grossing well over hollywood revenues in mid 2008, we've come along way. Hackers have too. But unfortunately for them, with the way the worlds going, they will have no security of their own when trying to do their business and will suffer serious reactions. Again, I recommend you make your own games. Things like steam are available for people under the radar and can easily net you fame and legitimacy. Your customer base will also be of normal folk, and not shady players who could just as easily be hacking you for your money just as you are hacking the game for its money. Hackers are the one being "naive" in these situations.

@SKiLLsSoLoN 8 жыл бұрын

TheWu727 Nicely said!

@cherokeehernandez9748 5 жыл бұрын

This comment is old but you sir are a gift from god :p

@drygordspellweaver8761 2 жыл бұрын

found the blizzard dev

@raulalcoi 8 жыл бұрын

The topic was really interesting for me since i play a lot of games but the guy on the left just made me close this video.

@JamesShelnutt 6 жыл бұрын

one thing I wonder is, say like in WoW, are macro commands that you can use in the game written in LUA as well? Cause I've seen macros & they sound much like this, ex: casting spells.

@officialpjkillah 9 жыл бұрын

I can't watch half these videos from Def Con, believe me I want to but I just can sit through it. The worst part is i'm not convince to spend $200 to go and sit listening to mono tone speakers.

@seanrasmussen4955 7 жыл бұрын

you all are my hero's but is there a way to bit flip all blizzards game files and backups and will it be effective at causing damage

@JumpinJimmy956 7 жыл бұрын

At 48:30 they were talking about back in the days of CoD2 and ET. netCoders and several other cheat communities found that they would simply scan the users RAM for certain strings of code. Pansemuckl and Rainerstoff got A LOT of people banned. PunkBuster released an official statement on their site back in 2008.

@doingtime20 8 жыл бұрын

guy on the left ruined talk.

@DavidUtrobin 7 жыл бұрын

any questions? "NOPE!"

@Supersonicboom7 9 жыл бұрын

This feels so akward, that is made even more obvious by how akward their on stage relationship is aswell.

@bcrtrx 4 жыл бұрын

nice mention of RunUO i have always been very impressed w that project

@HenrikGamborg 7 жыл бұрын

Well, comments for the left guy has been covered, no need for me to add on.

@Xenibalt 5 жыл бұрын

hahah aced it

@therawlifefamily 12 жыл бұрын

@DehMisterBrown There was, and we took questions for over an hour, but they aren't recorded.

@MrDpsc 11 жыл бұрын

Very good talk. But I hear you guys talking kind off negative about dll-injection yet you mention a guy who succeeded in it undetected. How is that possible? Is detection soo bad or did he patch a part of the detection mechanism? (I'm a noob...)

@nietaki 11 жыл бұрын

They keep mentioning how game programmers *still* don't know how to defend their "usual aporach" attacks. The presentation could be much more beneficial to "normal programmers" like me if they actually mentioned ways of mitigating some of those attacks.

@TheMageBank 8 жыл бұрын

Ok. I am sorry to say, but this talk sucked.

@ssshenkie 7 жыл бұрын

Developers are not so naive i would say, they want to keep the fans happy so security is often overlooked, because its pretty costly.

@therawlifefamily 12 жыл бұрын

@AiDz0r glad you liked it.

@Nick_Redlee 3 жыл бұрын

Why does this video have 700k+ views while all others have around 1k

@robertadkins5097 6 жыл бұрын

is there a way to speak to Mike on facebook ? anyone have his link?

@flatbg1 7 жыл бұрын

Had to turn it off even though the topic is pretty interesting. I can't get past that guys douchiness...

@katawatenshu 8 жыл бұрын

Starts at 6:40, dunno if it goes anywhere

@tron-8140 8 жыл бұрын

+buttercrap It doesn't.

@stefanwurmb2329 7 жыл бұрын

Back in the days of WoW private servers i used packet editor to create a character with a space inside (only client check), which made him unbannable by GM inside the game, because all commands split by space :D. Later i killed an invisible GM behind me by accident who was following me, was pretty hilarious in the TS :D

@troller4jesus 2 жыл бұрын

I was a script kiddie and was messing around with Cheat Engine in WoW classic. For some reason when I queued for WSG I was a level 44 Warlock on a mount in the 10-19 WSG bracket. I had no idea how or why it happened but I just ran around the entire time on my mount and others were just stopping and starring at me like "wtf".

@oskarimantere1914 7 жыл бұрын

I don't get the dislike of the "monotone" guy on the left side. I think he explained the stuff pretty well, his speaking was concise and to the point and he was reasonably witty.

@Higgs702 7 жыл бұрын

he was a little combative, but I didn't mind...

@McDarthrick 11 жыл бұрын

The main guy is jealous of the other guy, I'm assuming because he's smarter lol.

@kumquatmagoo 7 жыл бұрын

Chugging orange juice on stage. What a monster.

@scumgod7234 5 жыл бұрын

lmao

@sooooooooooomebody 9 жыл бұрын

soo the D3 auction house looked interesting... well well well :-)

@SwagDawg 6 жыл бұрын

wait, I don't get what the guy on the left did wrong... can someone tell me?

@jesuslightsmyway 6 жыл бұрын

Is that Hamilton or w/e his name was or Mercury they where the 2 owners / co owners of glider at the time and the major coders, the 3rd was like a moderator Ocktra or something, the guy on the left makes me think of him.

@amthatwas 3 жыл бұрын

There was only one owner of Glider, and it was Mercury. At one point, he hired another guy to come in and help code so that he could focus on his legal battle with Blizzard. And that guy's screen name did start with a 'H' (though I can't remember what it was right now). I assume that's who you're thinking of.

@blargblarghonk 11 жыл бұрын

You know I actually met bernie. Went to visit when they were in buda tx.

@jacobthomas939 7 жыл бұрын

Okay so if you go to the website where the guy on the left's email is hosted, the WOW website comes up. They must've bought his domain

@GladerDev 10 жыл бұрын

I didn't know Jack Black wrote Glider.

@obiwankenobi661 7 жыл бұрын

47:33 to me, the most telling thing about the guy on the left is how he quits when he faces a challenge. instead of trying to pronounce that word he just stonewalls and tries to brush it off acting cool. no way he is good at anything outside of what he already knows/became good at as a teenager

@supersophisticated9943 7 жыл бұрын

22:30 - wtf, windows vista start-up?

@fadmad7257 9 жыл бұрын

I think the guy on the left is just trying to be funny, it's defcon they have a pretty hard culture of insulting and dissing, nothing to be taken seriously, however they aren't good speakers though ( this has nothing to do with the rudeness) they just couldn't present this exciting content in an exciting manner, but if you look past that and watch till the end, then you will get a lot out of it

@RokenPL 7 жыл бұрын

very interesting to watch

@Exidose 7 жыл бұрын

"In your base killing your mans" "I'm pretty sure its that, i'm never wrong" Well.. you were wrong m8.

@DonteatpieRotmgScam 6 жыл бұрын

Fucking sarcasm is hard to detect, isn't it?

@herauthon 9 жыл бұрын

i always thought that the ingame economics was a bit hyperbended. .

@murderyoutubeworkersandceos 6 жыл бұрын

hello where do i sign up for polish mafia?

@abbaspercin 6 жыл бұрын

a well spent hour of my life

@felixmerz6229 6 жыл бұрын

I would really like to try this, too bad it's quite certainly illegal. Has anyone set up a sandbox to tinker with? Maybe something I could download and host myself?

@MrNutter 6 жыл бұрын

I rate this presentation a million billion / 10

@Xenibalt 5 жыл бұрын

ROFL

@_Leouch 7 жыл бұрын

I have found way to have in spellbook heroism as horde player. When asking around no one knew how to do it so maby I was 1st :p I have found also way to get hostile with dalaran, but it was easy so I think there where ppl who knew how to do it.

@yshouldifoogle6724 6 жыл бұрын

anyone know more about the story of "glider" and "wow" i want to know what kind of settlements were offered if any. i feel like blizzard didn't want to hit him so hard because it doesn't even hurt blizzard when most of the people just re-subscribed and they made more $.

@amthatwas 3 жыл бұрын

According to what Mercury said at the time (in the Glider forums), Blizzard actually came after him pretty hard. He said that when their lawyers showed up, he immediately offered to shut down Glider, but that wasn't good enough for them and they were pretty hell-bent on wringing some unreasonable amount of money out of him. I think he mentioned how much money they were trying to demand from him, but I don't recall what it was after all these years. In any case, it was an amount that he considered to be unacceptable, so he changed Glider's pricing model in order to raise funds for a big legal battle, and tried to fight them. I'm guessing that the reason they came after him so hard was to set an example. The guy was publicly selling his bot, as a legally registered business, and making millions of dollars. If they had let it continue, that would encourage other people to do the same. If Blizzard didn't make a very loud public stand against something like that, it would send a bad message to the player base. If he had just been selling his bot from the shadows, they probably wouldn't have been so inclined to come after him.

@midnightspeedpainter3602 2 жыл бұрын

They seem to really want to gatekeep quite a lot.

@therawlifefamily 11 жыл бұрын

There was but it wasn't recorded. I don't think any of them are.

@dwfmagik 9 жыл бұрын

Blackbook says video is saf to watch. Awoooga!

@cdbcbd4930 3 жыл бұрын

mmo that were browser/java that are now app/!xamp{soz brain fart}, can noclip after patch?

@Dazart 10 жыл бұрын

am i allowed to make a bot for wow that just runs in circles for 8 hours then stops?

@asj3419 9 жыл бұрын

Point?

@Archangel-hv6zc 9 жыл бұрын

How much does it cost to buy a hack from them?

@slimanbaghouri4287 9 жыл бұрын

thanks for video

@adrianocoutinho434 9 жыл бұрын

"that guys does" "oh that guy leaving" these guys are funny.

@lichansan1750 7 жыл бұрын

Those bots were annoying as shit and due to that i kinda hate those guys. they destroyed the fun for several people for their own benefit.

@Renox_GG 7 жыл бұрын

This guy sounds like D.va from overwatch, "Is this easy mode?"

@michaelguardado4545 9 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me where to learn all this hacking stuff. I want to learn more. IE botnets, js infecting, etc.

@joekiller9399 8 жыл бұрын

I'll show you ... what's it for?

@Bastacat 9 жыл бұрын

Holy shit...the guy on the left,what the fuck?

@oldnotweak 9 жыл бұрын

cheating on any multiplayer game is the lamest thing you could do in life

@DogmanSpVectron 7 жыл бұрын

Come back when you crack Wizard 101 hacks

@fehruswaggins5764 7 жыл бұрын

wizard 101 is nowhere near as complex as world of Warcraft, you bafoon.

@zackross2323 7 жыл бұрын

+Fehru swaggins it was a joke

@Bodyskillz2011 7 жыл бұрын

they didnt show anything on to do it

@over00lordunknown12 7 жыл бұрын

I remember when I just got into DefCon talks, and I t was about hacking Bluetooth, and I saw it said "(with speaker)" and I thought it meant hacking a Bluetooth speaker... XD

@over00lordunknown12 7 жыл бұрын

Also, for a second there, I thought that you meant that YOU CREATED Conficker... (I am a very confused individual...)

@LewisCowles 7 жыл бұрын

It's a pity they don't have a more accessible course. They could teach people how to hack their own game and no laws would be broken, and anyone that has ever thought "I'll make a bot" would be able to give them money the government and lawyers don't steal

@stevenpooley393 4 жыл бұрын

game company sells you the game, then through a third party sell you the hacks to make it fun (pay to win with extra steps). then do ban waves so you will buy the game and the "new" hack again thats not bannable

@RisvoldTheGreat 7 жыл бұрын

no Asheron's call info? hmm odd.

@wendys390 8 жыл бұрын

"All your bits were belong to us" ?

@IsaRat89 7 жыл бұрын

Bitcoins?

@NeverNotUnavailable 7 жыл бұрын

1) bits as in bits and bytes 2) it's a meme, "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" knowyourmeme.com/memes/all-your-base-are-belong-to-us

@hehhehdummy 7 жыл бұрын

Okay, glad I wasn't the only one not digging the guy on the left.

@Aetherlight_ 6 жыл бұрын

(I posted this early in the video before he actually said he was talking about autoit): "I wanted to punch the dudes because it wasn't very... ...cool" -- I didn't see the presentation he was talking about, but he's probably talking about AutoIt, AutoHotkey, or something similar which is easy, practical (and essentially undetectable by servers because it doesn't access program memory) for any novice programmer to write a bot. Hell, an AutoIt bot for diablo 2 is what got me into programming. Before that, I always liked programming and had tried out a few stale boring lessons, but never really had a way to program in a fun way that could keep me interested. I recommend AutoIt for any gamer who wants to dabble in programming and start out.

@mred884 3 жыл бұрын

thats essentially how him and I got into compsci - we used a scripting tool called easyuo

@77garga 4 жыл бұрын

Hellgate London is 1337 speak for HL3 :)

@ottawadigs 8 жыл бұрын

the squeeze network trick is BS nowdays since they use player location on the server end which is why you rubber band back to where the server last saved your position regardless of where you are now - ex: Path of Exile