DEF CON 25 - Manfred - Twenty Years of MMORPG Hacking Better Graphics and Same Exploits

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HackersOnBoard

HackersOnBoard

4 жыл бұрын

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@JanbekOzturk
@JanbekOzturk 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to grab yourselves a cup of YORKSHIRE TEA gents
@deanvangreunen6457
@deanvangreunen6457 7 ай бұрын
🎉
@Ozmala1
@Ozmala1 2 жыл бұрын
Bet this gets a few more views due to spiffs video 😄
@Chlorate299
@Chlorate299 2 жыл бұрын
Guilty as charged.
@xFallenRagex
@xFallenRagex 2 жыл бұрын
Partially, while yes the spiff vid, it was a game he exploited and played i remember that drew me to find out more information on him. And I rememeber that event clearly lol
@MickHaggs
@MickHaggs 2 жыл бұрын
Reporting in 07
@JaredNagle
@JaredNagle 2 жыл бұрын
love how innocently he says "close your eyes" and just trusts the internet won't pause the video
@pauljones9150
@pauljones9150 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here
@Gastell0
@Gastell0 2 жыл бұрын
The first 10 minutes is like really reading Ultima Online protocol specification =))
@adia.413
@adia.413 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how we used to hack into Maple Story as well
@elbarto8282
@elbarto8282 Жыл бұрын
He had his lawyer on the phone constantly telling him what not to talk about🤣🤣🤣
@IGM_Dex
@IGM_Dex 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant presentation even three years on.
@hippopotamus86
@hippopotamus86 Жыл бұрын
I once used the negative integer exploit... on a bitcoin exchange and it worked. This was back when bitcoin was worth $2 each. I did it with $400 as my first test and then told the exchange. Got to keep the money. Stupidly sold it for beer money.
@abstractfactory8068
@abstractfactory8068 Жыл бұрын
bs
@accountaccount3840
@accountaccount3840 10 ай бұрын
cap
@rolerroleris533
@rolerroleris533 2 жыл бұрын
Just when i started playing ff14... Also, quite strange how runescape isn't in here.
@noneofyourbusiness8625
@noneofyourbusiness8625 Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm the only one thinking about runescape, he must be hiding a huge exploit he knows and this his real bread and butter 😂
@ramsaybolton9151
@ramsaybolton9151 Ай бұрын
It's sad that people do this to destroy the experience for other players. This is why I believe in violent punishment.
@DomaninNicola
@DomaninNicola Жыл бұрын
you said he posted on his KZfaq him hacking the game live? where can I see the videos? i can't find his channel
@Stejin
@Stejin 2 жыл бұрын
WoW private Server, fun with package editing: character creation with a space inside... makes you unbanable with ingame commands... Or stuff like, you "reuse" some action and execute a AOE spell in rapid fire... (killed a invisible gm following me... was fun XD)
@NightfallChease
@NightfallChease Жыл бұрын
Which tools do you use to change packets u send from ur client to the server
@asmongoldsgold2402
@asmongoldsgold2402 Жыл бұрын
i understood nothing and was still interested.
@rjbrake
@rjbrake Жыл бұрын
The VLC installer is sitting onthe thumb drive
@ZippyChannelgaming
@ZippyChannelgaming 2 жыл бұрын
45:19 45:31 dude in the background is getting schwifty
@BraveLittIeToaster
@BraveLittIeToaster 5 ай бұрын
Is that vista?!
@subtomeiwillsubtoyou4682
@subtomeiwillsubtoyou4682 3 жыл бұрын
wow
@troytargaryen9848
@troytargaryen9848 3 жыл бұрын
IKR
@michaelchappell6305
@michaelchappell6305 Жыл бұрын
Manfred Macx?!
@mriananderson
@mriananderson 11 ай бұрын
This dude is a genius, but the real secret with him is to play his videos at 1.25 x- 1.5x speed ;)
@michaelchappell6305
@michaelchappell6305 Жыл бұрын
Accelerando!!
@yanastase
@yanastase 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is fucking amazing
@wcbuerste7
@wcbuerste7 2 жыл бұрын
How come the games don't encrypt their packets properly?
@givvygvidon7279
@givvygvidon7279 Жыл бұрын
They do, but the weakness is the client has functions/routines that are responsible for encrypting and decrypting the packets or the game wouldnt function correctly. A reverse engineer can locate those functions and intercept them using hooks which eliminates all of that work.. you don't need to understand how the encryption works fully to do a MITM attack.
@iUUkk
@iUUkk Жыл бұрын
A game shouldn't rely on packet encryption though. As a developer you need to logically prevent exploits on the server side because anything client side is just a cat and mouse game.
@Neffins
@Neffins Жыл бұрын
@@givvygvidon7279 Is there a place/source to learn more on this?
@jesuschrist1501
@jesuschrist1501 4 ай бұрын
because that's pretty much impossible. no matter how much you encrypt the packets client-side wise you will always lose to a motivated hacker who will reverse engineer the game's source code and hook the functions. the video goes over the part about the game call rift online, he said they got a gold star for encrypting their packets but the very beginning function that does it all you can basically hook them and that's gg. now this isn't all doom and gloom, mmo game companies need to not be lazy and do server side security. it isn't much to tell the server that it will not be accepting negative values, idk why they don't do that.
@noepopkiewicz901
@noepopkiewicz901 Жыл бұрын
He was reverse engineering MMO game clients and creating own tools for real time DLL hooks, as a teenager, for shits and giggles (at first)? Sounds like this story is missing some parts.
@recklessmage
@recklessmage 10 ай бұрын
Darknet Diaries featured him and his story in two episodes. He goes much more in-depth there.
@birdzbeeztreez4248
@birdzbeeztreez4248 Жыл бұрын
What was the name of the Gm, who coined the name Manfred? that name could be interesting
@timothyhicks1365
@timothyhicks1365 Жыл бұрын
Womanfreddy
@drygordspellweaver8761
@drygordspellweaver8761 2 жыл бұрын
anyone have any idea how to build the 'client side dll hook' he mentioned?
@ricardonacif5426
@ricardonacif5426 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@drygordspellweaver8761
@drygordspellweaver8761 Жыл бұрын
@@ricardonacif5426 comment was a year ago, I've pretty much figured it out by now haha
@yunusaydin5177
@yunusaydin5177 9 ай бұрын
@@drygordspellweaver8761 so how
@Netbase2000
@Netbase2000 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine because of the a player hosts a game network warframe might be another good contender
@mannycalavera121
@mannycalavera121 Жыл бұрын
Wish I were smarter
@ShadoSpartan44
@ShadoSpartan44 Жыл бұрын
it was hard to get through that beginning, he sounded so bored and bummed to be there. lucky for him the topic is worth hearing about
@3vilL33T7
@3vilL33T7 2 жыл бұрын
"provide service that puts the bot farmers out of business?" Nice to see people still believe in Santa Claus 🎅😂
@ZacklFair
@ZacklFair Жыл бұрын
I mean technically if you can mute bots for everyone or straight up kill them (especially on a pvp grief server)...
@Netbase2000
@Netbase2000 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he ever got into eve online. You could make a fortune if anything like this works on eve. And I imagine he could. Eve are just numbers
@1000_Gibibit
@1000_Gibibit Жыл бұрын
EVE developers created their own os to run the game servers. I doubt they forgot to do server side checks on all the command that you can send
@nogaxeh6
@nogaxeh6 Жыл бұрын
A bit late, but while it may be possible to have fun with warframe, I know of friends who have tried to hack the game several ways (mostly in Solo, so hosted locally), and most of the time their accounts ended up getting banned. so there definitely are checks in place.
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
With all the crap going on at wow now, hackers need to hit the servers hard and break the game.
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@itdepends604 this Let people solo mythic raids lol
@Neceros
@Neceros 2 жыл бұрын
what is happening?
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neceros ...... look it up man is all I can say, it's baaaad
@Neceros
@Neceros 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamestomlin5525 how can I when you won't tell me
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neceros just look it up dude, you're either trolling or your head is in the sand
@Neceros
@Neceros 2 жыл бұрын
Not the best speaker, but the information was very interesting
@klarnorbert
@klarnorbert 2 жыл бұрын
Not everybody is extrovert. He's clearly have knowledge, he just not used to talk to big crowds.
@drygordspellweaver8761
@drygordspellweaver8761 2 жыл бұрын
WDYM he's a great speaker. Clear, relaxed, Had the audience cracking up.
@adamkatt
@adamkatt Жыл бұрын
@@klarnorbert He clearly has knowledge unlike you.
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
>be ethical Lol dude, hacking someone's plot of land and removing them and then turning around and selling that plot of land for 2k dollars is about as far from ethics as you can get in a game 🤣
@zippolight2002
@zippolight2002 2 жыл бұрын
He did say that he did some unethical things early on. That's what he was talking about.
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@zippolight2002 true. Still, this is nuts man
@DarakayGamingStudio
@DarakayGamingStudio 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamestomlin5525 he said he would do that to houses abandoned for over 5 week, that were ready to collapse, so he wouldn't destroy houses from players who were playing, i think for 2 reasons, 1 ethics, 2 avoid suspicion
@jamestomlin5525
@jamestomlin5525 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarakayGamingStudio I know I know lol I'm just being a little shit. Really, props to the guy. He's incredibly smart to have not only done this but been paid for it as well
@vast634
@vast634 Жыл бұрын
Sound like he lives off of lazy Server programmers, that dont check any packet for plausible parameters and what players they are linked to...
@nocturne2172
@nocturne2172 Жыл бұрын
bet you know more
@skata100
@skata100 Жыл бұрын
Bunch of leaked methods all compiled into one presentation lmao
@GNParty
@GNParty 2 жыл бұрын
"Same" exploits. 😑
@Netbase2000
@Netbase2000 2 жыл бұрын
Awful audience
@whizzingbye
@whizzingbye Жыл бұрын
Hold tight my little bit to old socially awkward mmo guys. Slayer by day looking for weird bots and porn at, the rest of the time. While hiding your 2.7 year login time on runescape.#nolyfefml
@ColorfulEscapades
@ColorfulEscapades 2 жыл бұрын
You are just an actor
@victorygo
@victorygo Жыл бұрын
He's a criminal lol don't sugarcoat it
@noepopkiewicz901
@noepopkiewicz901 Жыл бұрын
Which laws exactly did he break?
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