GIVE OXIDE MONEY

ah yes, because this is a very bad bad video that is clearly harming the community and people around it right

Well you where a bit harsh on the armour. Damn I would be pretty happy to survive most of those ap rounds at that range. Nice video.

#armorlivesmatter

Spall is just high speed scalpels for cock removal

@@Oxide_does_his_best 😳

It's called the "defender" for a reason, right?

@@Oxide_does_his_best To think about it gives me a phantom pain.

cock and ball torture?

Yeah cuz everyone is going to uninstall lol

They need to. If Nikita doesn't add it then game is fun. Nikita stated his goal is to make game not fun.

@@DisgruntledK28 shit bro he just needs go keep wrecking the net code for that lol

@@DisgruntledK28 Nikita wants to make changes that will make Tarkov the hardcore simulator it was supposed to be, he's just too afraid of community backlash from losers on Reddit and Twitter.

@@imgoingberserk5918 I know. I'm just making a joke that GeneralSam made about Tarkov. I enjoy it I just like poking fun at it.

Respectable bravery and dedication to tradition, but that's a shitty decision to make as a soldier lol.

Russians are huge boomers. Who could've guessed?

Titanium is not "obsolete" as an armor material by any means, in fact it has some advantages, look into ulbrichts helmets, they still make modern titanium helmets for elite German unit like SEK. The russian Altyn was actually copied from a Swedish design I believe. But yes they are obsolete now. And in any case many "modern" russian helmets are weak knockoffs of ops core that are typically gost 1 or gost 2 in which case the altyn may actually be better or at least offer a face shield.

@@rodiculous9464 titanium is dumb

@@rodiculous9464 You're thinking of Switzerland, not Sweden.

Just as God intended lol

The lords measuring system

Yeah Yankees wanna be different

@@mannfred1440 yep, it's actually rounds of 5.56 per a range though

@@SpoopyTurtle44 ironic considering 5.56 is metric

Wait what, can you give a link? I can’t find anything about it

These weren't top of the line...

well Defender and Redut are actually the armor systems from 2000-2008. They are cool but already replaced with much modern armor systems that's offer better protection with equal or less weight.

That's not really news, I mean it happens fairly often a lot of suppliers get busted. Do you have the link? I am curious what the armor is. Probably 6b45 I heard they don't like when current gen stuff gets out.

not to be that guy but the stolen armours and kits are army ratnik kits so oxide's all good

Wooow

Ok

I hate you so much. Fuck... now I Gatta go play EFT..

To be fair, the IOTV is only 36 pounds if fully equipped with the additional armor. With just the vest, front and back plates, it's much less. And if photos are anything to go off of, most soldiers didn't bother with the additional armor. Most of the time it was just the vest and groint protector.

@@hewhoplugwalks that's without anything else too. way too heavy

You can they make spall liner you can place infront of a steel plate thats made of Kevlar. Would be cool to have a steel plate wrapped with it though. Might steal your idea man lmao

The Bagary does this, future test, you'll see!

@@forrestallen9354 I’d be interested to know the results!

915 team, a russian gear reviewer did this, he bought soft armor and just wrapped it around a steel plate and taped it up and it worked to stop the spall. Adds a lot of thiccness tho

@@rodiculous9464 715*

NeoTokyo woo yeah

annul is my favorite

TIN SOLDIERS

PAPERHOUSE!

you are a cool guy I hope more people get to listen to Ed Harrison OST, the servers are still up and there is still a small but active community on steam

Some do.

Oxide will sound like Corpse Husband within a month at this rate...

@@murmenaattori6 moonman?

@@pedoslayer Indeed.

@@murmenaattori6 you from shamejug server?

@@pedoslayer Nay, sorry don't know what/who shamejug is.

Sick :(

@@Oxide_does_his_best Get well soon man

Clearly he’s tryna fuccckk boi!

Probably a smoker

Huge balls

The term spalling and splash have really been combined into the same thing when you look at the common language. Nobody calls the extra aramid anti splash.

@@Oxide_does_his_best Just because the colloquial term is the colloquial term doesn't make it right.

​@@SuperAWaC I can only care about so much :/

@@Oxide_does_his_bestIf only we had infinite capacity to care

It really is the best way to do it.

I’m not debating the usefulness of the new NGSW program, M855A1 does what its supposed to do. No one short of special forces on either side could field true armor penetrating ammunitions to all of their troops.

The thing is this lodaut is outdated and is not in use by russians anymore

Fuck, tarkov players, spalling is coming!!

The 556 spall was bad, there shouldn't be any spall at all. If that stuff is digging into your skin you notice. The redut I've seen has a different plate bag that uses a single monolithic ceramic plate.

@@Oxide_does_his_best I didn't notice any spall on the first few shots though. After those shots the spalling did seem pretty bad, but not (immediately) fatal. Maybe in the context of police raids and counter-terrorism they saw the spalling as an acceptable tradeoff for stopping the bullets. The spalling could be lifethreatening, but shouldn't be a problem with first aid. Most firefights they're expected to go into are much shorter than those fought in warzones, and with medical aid on standby. I think they accepted the risk of spalling in return for being able to stop multiple hits.

@@joost1120 you know most modern ceramic plates can take multiple hits right?

@@conorfoster2337 The Defender is pretty old though. I'm pretty sure most ceramic plates from the 2000s weren't that durable.

@@joost1120 Not true, US troops were using multi-hit capable ceramic plates back in the early 90s in Somalia. They didn't see wide spread adoption until the early 2000s and the war on terror, though, so it's entirely possible Russia didn't have the capability to produce or buy them.

I need to talk to Fort employees honestly

You can, just buy it as "airsoft gear" Works in Germany, but havent tried importing the plates, just the vests. Also there are a couple in circulation in the EU with plates which got in before the Krim sanctions. Well and you just could go repro if you just want the vest

@Gost-5 because steel plates you'd buy don't have aramid fibers woven around,so it'll be even worse. It'll also be conversly more realistic and he could also test it against a 20 inch ar and find out if 5.56 ball can pen ar500. These, while accurately demonstrating spall, don't perfectly recrearte what you'd get from ar500 and there's visulization for the damage caused by spalling.

@@saintpeddlesworth2706 plenty of videos out there testing ar500

@@saintpeddlesworth2706 Clearly you dont know much about ar500. They literally have a spawling coat that comes on the plate and its probably better than the defender 2.

@@mr.stankers5967 Ar500 uses a truck bed liner as their "spall protection" paintjob. Not only does it add a shit ton more weight but it's largely ineffective after being hit once or twice, frequently just peeling right off. Never use Ar500.

@@pakman184 demo ranch shot one multiple times and the coating still worked.

Моё Почтение )))

I wish I could understand Russian to properly watch 715 videos :(

@@AKK5I why do you even interested in their videos?

LOL @ the rant Oxide goes on around 8:40 - the plates stopped everything thrown at them except for the anti materiel bullets - what more do you want from them? They would keep their users alive and combat effective. Oxide doesn’t know the realities of budget, especially for having to procure millions of stock. for example if switching to a steel plate and carrier system was $300 extra per unit given the roughly 4,000,000 people who serve in Russian security services, combining the military, internal affairs police, and border guards, this is not accounting for private services nor non-federal police , that’s an extra $1,200,000,000 in total on top of other armor costs. That is a lot for an improvement that doesn’t really do anything, meaning protect the wearers better. And I am certain that I am forgetting about enormous hidden costs, like deals on, repairs replacements, and continuance, and so on. There are some very compelling reasons why not everyone outfits all their forces with the newest and best gear.

@@Mortablunt well said.

@@akompsupport To channel Garand Thumb (who being a veteran and still serving Ranger who does comparative analyses), what is most important is to have some serviceable gear and train with it. Training is the single most important thing you can do. If you have to choose between Gucci gear and developing your skills, take the training. I've had people whine at me about my gear choices. I shoot 54R and x19 instead of Lapua and 10mm, I wear steel instead of ceramic, I run Wolf instead of Corbon, I wear some European pattern instead of Multicam, I have a a body armor instead of a carrier. Could I afford the nicer stuff? Yes. BUUUUUUUUUT! Then I wouldn't be able to afford the practice. Instead of 2 range sessions per week, with running the primo calibers, I'd be capped at 1 session a month. I would be hesitant to get my nice gear dirty and dinged. And with the massive savings, both upfront, and shot per shot, session per session, I have been able to afford things like real professional instruction at least once annually, regular range trips, participation in competition to check how sharp I really am, and so on. This would have been financially out of my reach if I went with all the latest and greatest. If you have to choose between hardware and practice, choose the practice. Good practice can make up for numerous shortcomings in gear, but no gear can save you from inadequate training. Under stress, you will not rise to the price tag of your gear, you will sink to the lowest level of your mastered training.

@@Mortablunt Impressive. The more I see about Garand thumb off platform responding to certain struggle secessions the more I respect the guy for being a positive influence on the community, very level headed and positive energy all around. Re: Practice. Yes, need to get out w/ your kit and train so you know what works and what needs to be modified/fixed/discarded, etc. Also important to be able to run away if need be with all that additional weight, etc.

The aramid inserts were inspected thoroughly before the test, all in factory condition

@@Oxide_does_his_best Still, even though plates might have looked factory new, it doesn't really tell if the aramid was using its full potential.

@@k.b.n.7951 taofladermouse has aramid vests since the 1980s all level 3 nij that legit baked out in the sun for years and still worked for every single round it was rated for the only reason aramid has a experation date is so you buy a new one after a certain amount of time so the company can make more money. aramid is a better material than most people give it credit for.

@@rickfastly2671 if moisture gets inside it can break down quickly, pretty common with these russian plates to be banged around a lot and maybe the seal was compromised, also even if it "worked" that doesn't mean it wasn't degraded, it could have just hit a lucky spot or maybe it could have stopped more rounds if it was fresh, there are a million variables

@@rodiculous9464 yeah but he shot it in a already compromised spot and it still blocked the round i mean the vest was already shot up too. also can you tell me what aramid is made of that causes it to degrade in water because i thought it was made of plastic.