HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Why Blood And Cheese Is EVEN WORSE In The Books

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13 күн бұрын

HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Why Blood And Cheese Is EVEN WORSE In The Books.
We break down the first episode of the Game Of Thrones prequel HOTD, covering the storyline involving Blood and Cheese the hired assassins from Episode 1. We go through all the book comparisons and explain how it was so much worse in the pages than on the screen. Such a brutal and unforgettable moment from the book brought to life, but we go through all the changes in the work and what makes it so chilling. Please don't lose your heads now, lets jump right into it!
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down House Of The Dragon.
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The first episode of Season 2 has just come out and it ends in a big bad way. Featuring the entrance of Blood and Cheese they've come to collect a son for a son. The ending is pretty messed up but its actually even worse in the books.
Throughout this video I'm gonna discuss it and talk about what exactly happens in the work. Obviously there's gonna be heavy spoilers here so if you don't want it ruined then I recommend you turn off. If you agree then please hit the thumbs up and if you don't...then don't hit the thumbs down...just close, close the video please.
Nah do what you want mate. A like for a like.
Anyway thank you for clicking this now lets get into fire and blood.
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Ok so the episode culminates with Daemon arriving at Kings Landing by boat. After entering the strong hold he catches the attention of blood who he gives coins to to pass through the gates.
This is something touched upon in the work with it saying:
Let it not be forgotten: in his youth, Daemon Targaryen had been the “Prince of the City,” his face and laugh familiar to every cutpurse,
whore, and gambler in Flea Bottom. The prince still had friends in the low places of King’s Landing, and followers amongst the gold cloaks.
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@VictorIV0310
@VictorIV0310 11 күн бұрын
Kind of a bummer they cut Maelor from the show, it’s more gutwrenching that she picks him because Jaeharys is the heir and then Cheese fucks with Maelor about mommy wanting him dead before Blood lops off Jaehaerys’ head. The idea that the surviving child knows their parent chose them to die over their sibling would really mess with their head. It was much darker and intense in the book.
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 11 күн бұрын
Yeah agreed
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 11 күн бұрын
Why change the most detailed and the best written scene in books just adapt it you have it on silver plate
@mcoupe69
@mcoupe69 11 күн бұрын
Why is everyone saying it’s worse in the books Dx how is slowly decapn a child while he’s awake/aware and being suffocated not worse than a quick lob of the head I get that the addition of Maelor and the mental torture was maybe a little worse (but cmon the kid probably didn’t understand a thing)
@fatalshore5068
@fatalshore5068 11 күн бұрын
​@@mcoupe69because of Helena. It utterly destroys her relationship with her son. That's not a thing now in the show.
@arcturionblade1077
@arcturionblade1077 11 күн бұрын
The book is also written from the perspective of unreliable narrators so we can't 100% assume that every such detail is the truth.
@jcurn4922
@jcurn4922 11 күн бұрын
It’s kind of radical that all us novel enthusiasts watched the show last night and were like “damn bro they watered it down, that was pretty soft”….🤣🤣
@MadSaez103
@MadSaez103 11 күн бұрын
Right?!?
@adarnia
@adarnia 10 күн бұрын
violent people need to calm down
@andreeacrisan8233
@andreeacrisan8233 10 күн бұрын
Surely “a single blow” was far nicer than the “hard work” they had to put into getting that 👶
@wasupmybras
@wasupmybras 10 күн бұрын
Idk i had subtitles on and something about the captions when it was happening just made it so much more messed up for me idk. I wish they would have done it differently but i don’t hate how it was done. Still made me feel uncomfortable which was the whole point right?
@jcurn4922
@jcurn4922 10 күн бұрын
@@wasupmybras I didn’t hate it either. I thought they could have cast cheese a little more vile and sinister looking. But I’m always just in awe of how intensely f’ed up of a picture George can paint… like if anyone were to make a show that portrayed word for word what George writes you could probably only watch it on the dark web or something
@FaeForgeRPG
@FaeForgeRPG 11 күн бұрын
Ye i had more of a reaction the dog kick than Jaehaerys 😥
@marcelagarnica7076
@marcelagarnica7076 11 күн бұрын
Same! 😢😢😢
@goodguy4941
@goodguy4941 10 күн бұрын
That was funny😂
@sostika3004
@sostika3004 8 күн бұрын
Not watching this pity show anymore
@adrianramirez8882
@adrianramirez8882 11 күн бұрын
Book Heleana: Take my life!!! Show Heleana: Take my necklace!!!
@titosdorito9628
@titosdorito9628 10 күн бұрын
Ok book purist
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 10 күн бұрын
​@@titosdorito9628maybe people liked the source material and are just upset at it being completely and entirely changed.
@stephched4270
@stephched4270 10 күн бұрын
​@@musakamara4157 completely and entirely??
@ratikantrout1865
@ratikantrout1865 9 күн бұрын
​@@stephched4270 yeah in the books everything is not an accident😂 people were actually cruel, greedy for power and how that greed corrupted them and made them do evil things which destroyed lives and weakened house targaryen beyond repair. The dance of the dragon is not remembered fondly by the people of westeros.this is the time where the house targaryen was at the height of its power after jaehaerys and viserys nearly 80 years reign. Both these factions destroyed everything that their predecessors worked so hard for.
@hangyao479
@hangyao479 7 күн бұрын
Haelena sold out her own son
@alison4dice
@alison4dice 11 күн бұрын
Disappointing that they changed the choice element from the book.
@blkjem21
@blkjem21 11 күн бұрын
It's the one scene I wanted them to get right. It was written so well, it was perfect. 😞
@hewhoreacts
@hewhoreacts 11 күн бұрын
Very dissapointing, it made me no longer be hyped about the show. Im scared of what else they are going to change. It was the one thing i wanted them to get right
@pjg179
@pjg179 11 күн бұрын
It was suitable for TV....it was already controversial unaliving kids on TV ...it was rated PG13
@firstlast9846
@firstlast9846 11 күн бұрын
ICL I found the episode to be a little lacklustre.. especially this scene
@GenericTallGuy
@GenericTallGuy 11 күн бұрын
Exactly!!!
@genesys7266
@genesys7266 11 күн бұрын
I wish they kept the choice. When reading the book, the Blood and Cheese incident made my allegiance sway. It would’ve worked in the show too
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 11 күн бұрын
They made it look like Helaena did not care about Jaehaerys, because he was boy but one but her daughter but Helaena love all her kids
@genesys7266
@genesys7266 11 күн бұрын
@@queenxx1690 it would’ve been better if she a.) lied about the kid b.) offered her own life c.) they included Maelor d.) all of the above It’s a reason the books are loved the way they are
@vivannet231
@vivannet231 11 күн бұрын
Well they’ve been portraying the blacks as the protagonists, and therefore the “good” side™️, so of course we cant have that
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
@@genesys7266 you realize the book it’s based on isn’t real testimony, right?
@UltramarinePrimaris
@UltramarinePrimaris 11 күн бұрын
@@mattcollins3591 Not all the events are disputed - some are more truthful than others...Eustace and Mushroom's accounts may differ, but the events at their core did indeed happen. You'd know this if you actually read it.
@mer51227
@mer51227 11 күн бұрын
I was screaming about the dog abuse too but gasped at the child murder.
@barak9966
@barak9966 8 күн бұрын
In the books blood and cheese insisted "a son for a son" when Helena begged them to kill her instead. She was given a choice, kill the eldest hair apparent or the new baby boy. She chose the baby to die probably because she thought he is still unaware of what's happening and it will be less traumatic for him. But blood and cheese killed the eldest because they thought he was her favourite son if she chose the baby to die. Gradually sje couldn't bare looking at the baby not hold him out of guilt she chose him to die. Eventually she due to increased depression she jumped to her death in a ditch, impaled by spikes. The blood and cheese assassination was a big mistake. It severely weakened the black faction. When Aemond killed luke it opened a path to the blacks to rally more lords to Thier side because look was only a messenger and killing a messenger is considered taboo. But when when the assassination committed by blood of an unarmed child in his bed is 10 times worse shrinking the possibility of more lords joining the blacks.
@janesfilms
@janesfilms 4 күн бұрын
Good point. The thing I wonder is how did anyone find out about what happened to Luke? Aemond was the only witness so I assume he told what happened but I wonder why he would do that? It was basically an accident after all, vahgar didn’t obey. Did Aemond just want to get credit for the death? Wouldn’t he know how it would be negatively viewed and how his mother and grandfather would be upset? He should have just kept his mouth shut.
@barak9966
@barak9966 4 күн бұрын
@@janesfilms Ah it's different in the book. In the book in the Barathehon right after Luke leaves the sister who wasn't chosen by Aemond mocks him for letting Luke go... She probably was envious Aemond chose her sister over her so she taunts Aemond. "Did he cut your balls too? Thank goodness you choose my sister over me, I prefer a man who is intact"... This caused Aemond out of ego or perhaps low self esteem to pursue Luke, the attack was impulsive and intentional. Aegon had a feast for Aemond once he got back to Kings Landing... Could be to celebrate he betrothal or him killing Luke. The problem is it was perceived by the blacks as if Luke's death is celebrated. Otto got angry at Aemond and said to him did you loose your other eye as well... Because otto realised this could lead to war when it was attempted to resolve the matter diplomatically. The Greens didn't have enough lords at thier side yet and as I stated killing a messenger is considered taboo and could make it difficult for them to rally more lords to thier side.
@Alexza1980
@Alexza1980 11 күн бұрын
Oh, how I missed your breakdowns!! Thank you Paul for all that you do. Great job 🤗
@TheGreenTulips
@TheGreenTulips 11 күн бұрын
I want to see how they’re going to explain the knight Christian, not being at his post? Will there be hate between Helena and the dowager Queen Alice?
@nerd26373
@nerd26373 11 күн бұрын
We appreciate your dedication and hard work. Keep working hard.
@ginap4386
@ginap4386 11 күн бұрын
You truly have the best breakdowns! Thank you for your videos!
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 11 күн бұрын
Cheers mate
@rotten_belly_bowser
@rotten_belly_bowser 11 күн бұрын
Really knocking it out of the park, Paul. Great breakdowns!
@MoistMan772
@MoistMan772 11 күн бұрын
Damm 💯 Great video, Paul
@thanasimaragoudakis3104
@thanasimaragoudakis3104 11 күн бұрын
I still hear the sound of them cutting his head off with the blades… so this suffices for me
@mark45635
@mark45635 11 күн бұрын
The dog getting kicked was more impactful than the scene.
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever 11 күн бұрын
I agree (about the dog). Kids make shows annoying most of the time.
@tay_hilfiger197
@tay_hilfiger197 10 күн бұрын
@@FigmentForeveryou’re white huh ?
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 10 күн бұрын
And without that sound? The scene has nothing else. The book doesn't even do all that, it's a clean quick chop. The show wanted to drag out the killing when they should have dragged out the bargaining and negotiations and have kill be quick and off screen.
@FigmentForever
@FigmentForever 10 күн бұрын
@@tay_hilfiger197 I’m Biracial Brazilian but idk what that matters
@marlonlabrador8957
@marlonlabrador8957 11 күн бұрын
Criston Pole!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@cheekster777
@cheekster777 11 күн бұрын
Thanks Paul.
@cameryndennis366
@cameryndennis366 6 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!
@captainziggy82
@captainziggy82 11 күн бұрын
No Maelor, or mention of Daeron in the show yet…… southern plot will just be completely different
@stevenhedge2850
@stevenhedge2850 11 күн бұрын
heonstly, not having maelor makes the greens and Daeron look better. having maelor be torn apart would not be pleasant, and it make Daeron look bad for slaughtering the entire town and lady because of it.
@ratikantrout1865
@ratikantrout1865 9 күн бұрын
​@@stevenhedge2850 but thats is the real dance of the dragons when addam of hull and the dragon seeds and daeron took to the skies. Imagine 5 dragons in the sky snapping, clawing , dancing, throwing flames using their bodies to kill each other in a death match😂
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 8 күн бұрын
@@stevenhedge2850 how the people killed his nephew and in anger he destroyed them for it that not looking bad to me
@stevenhedge2850
@stevenhedge2850 8 күн бұрын
@@durrangodsgrief6503 becausae he killed EVERYONE, not just the people involved, he even killed the lady and the entire town. its like blaming all of king's landing for Cersei's actions
@circleherk
@circleherk 10 күн бұрын
Where did you get those animated sections from? Didn't HBO have a 20 min animated short on this? Where can I find that?
@zimm413
@zimm413 10 күн бұрын
Dude you have a great reading voice. Books on tape!
@Sunstar808
@Sunstar808 11 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing and impactful episode despite any deviation from the book. Poor Helaena as if she wasn’t already on the verge of losing her lucidity.
@OhAUM
@OhAUM 11 күн бұрын
The sounds really nailed in the poor lad was being sliced Alive. So cruel!
@alexanderdumas-
@alexanderdumas- 11 күн бұрын
Don’t they both get caught trying to smuggle Jahaerys head back to Daemon?
@turbokid8719
@turbokid8719 11 күн бұрын
I think it was only blood that was caught trying to sneak out of the city with the head.
@generalgrievous3423
@generalgrievous3423 11 күн бұрын
​@turbokid8719 Yeah, Blood was caught with the head, but they never caught Cheese who by all accounts probably vanished into Kings Landing, although I think the show is leaning into both of them getting caught.
@turbokid8719
@turbokid8719 11 күн бұрын
@@generalgrievous3423 yeah Cheese was wondering how he avoided getting caught. 🤔
@liamdamon
@liamdamon 8 күн бұрын
I hope they change it that Blood gets caught with the necklace and the head makes it back to Rhaenyra.
@ryangibbs2658
@ryangibbs2658 11 күн бұрын
I had to go back to rewatch old breakdowns, on the characters, he did a year ago go; to remember how this dance ends 😅
@peppersurfer
@peppersurfer 11 күн бұрын
This show is GOATED. Respect the Lore Respect the Characters Respect the Fans
@fernandocorona5411
@fernandocorona5411 11 күн бұрын
Only if you hate the greens
@Rumor.
@Rumor. 11 күн бұрын
@@fernandocorona5411 i have read the book n i im with black
@fernandocorona5411
@fernandocorona5411 11 күн бұрын
@@Rumor. and?
@ZachAsaD
@ZachAsaD 11 күн бұрын
I was shocked, I was expecting them to get killed before they could do anything
@jake_gon_jinn
@jake_gon_jinn 11 күн бұрын
Idk why they changed the necessary elements from the book! Helaena choosin the wrong son and them killing the other one was the peak horror of that part. I didn't expect HBO to show the whole scene cause it's really messed up, but changing the order of the events also wasn't a good move.
@311Dominique
@311Dominique 11 күн бұрын
The actress who is playing Helena. Didnt sell the end scene for me . I know the character supposed to be odd. But I didn't feel her fear. On the positive side, i really liked that they were there for Amend but the plan changed
@jakeg7472
@jakeg7472 11 күн бұрын
She was in complete shock. That was actually a pretty accurate reaction I think. Beyond the point of pleading for mercy she’s fully traumatized from now on
@311Dominique
@311Dominique 11 күн бұрын
@@jakeg7472 I was thinking that too. I really thought on this, one. Something about the scene was lacking for me. Maybe a stream of uncontrollable tears. Not hysterically crying. But something .
@jakeg7472
@jakeg7472 11 күн бұрын
@@311Dominique yeah I know what u mean. I think it might have been her realizing that her vision was coming true she was saying earlier in the episode she was scared her son would die from “the rats”. She could have been realizing there is nothing she can do and this is her prophesy coming true
@xaviermartinez976
@xaviermartinez976 11 күн бұрын
You pulling reading rainbow moves reading to us like that😂🤘🏽
@ericacommanda9566
@ericacommanda9566 11 күн бұрын
I like your reading voice. "A like for a like." 😅
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 11 күн бұрын
Haha thank you
@Edgaralexi
@Edgaralexi 11 күн бұрын
Head stuffed in a chamber pot?! Jesus fucking Christ bro
@OMGnancyWTF
@OMGnancyWTF 11 күн бұрын
For me, the show was more horrifying than the books. Hearing them sawing the child's head off instead of doing a quick, painless, one swing death really fucked me up. Reminded me of that scene in Hereditary where we hear the mom cutting her own head off before we actually see it. So disturbing.
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
I thought the exact same
@fernandocorona5411
@fernandocorona5411 11 күн бұрын
Then we see Alicent riding Cole lol this show is goofy
@shyguy9102
@shyguy9102 11 күн бұрын
That's the way it's supposed to be, she's a Queen not a whore@@fernandocorona5411
@stavros8410
@stavros8410 11 күн бұрын
you know they did the exact same thing in the books, right? god you got tv series fans are so blind. It's like the last season of GoT all over again.
@OMGnancyWTF
@OMGnancyWTF 11 күн бұрын
@@stavros8410 um I’ve read the books 🙄🙄🙄
@jeffandjoannbauer9567
@jeffandjoannbauer9567 11 күн бұрын
I really appreciated the show version. They’re definitely leaning into haelana being a seer. She chose her son because she knows her daughter will be key to ending the Dance. Also: remember that F&B was written as an imperfect history by authors with agendas. The fact that they take snippets from the book, while largely honoring the spirit of the book, really helps expand the story and I think they’ve made some great creative choices.
@alison4dice
@alison4dice 11 күн бұрын
Ooooohhhhh, interesting that she may have foreseen something that indicated keeping her daughter alive was more important in the long-term. It never much seemed to me that she understood her visions last season, but I saw a clip that reminded me there was a younger actress playing the character at that point, so it was a very different performance.
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 11 күн бұрын
But then they are cutting characters thta re important. The show isnt the true version of the book at all, its a different canon and might aswell be a different universe.
@user-dk9gp3si5c
@user-dk9gp3si5c 11 күн бұрын
@@lucasbelmonte2832 Maenor might still be in the show. We just don't know if the Blood and Cheese accident really played out like in the books. Maybe Maenor was there. Maybe not.
@lucasbelmonte2832
@lucasbelmonte2832 11 күн бұрын
@@user-dk9gp3si5c Maelor was confirmed no to exist in the show
@hercules2342
@hercules2342 11 күн бұрын
They 1000% ruin this whole scene with the changes they did
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 9 күн бұрын
3:07 Cristian Pole🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@europeanjess5179
@europeanjess5179 11 күн бұрын
Completely agree about the dog lol, I jumped more in that scene than with the kids scene
@jjmsmom
@jjmsmom 11 күн бұрын
I haven’t read the book, although I heard some snippets. I really expected the scene to have more tension. I didn’t expect them to just walk around in front of everyone. Rather I thought the scene would be quieter, darker, and full of tension. I felt so happy seeing the north. When that music came on I 🥺
@IsiahBradley
@IsiahBradley 11 күн бұрын
PAUL!!! KEEP 'EM COMING, BAY-BEE!!! :)
@HowToFixIT404
@HowToFixIT404 11 күн бұрын
Are we not going to address that he sent them in to kill the guy with the eyepatch specifically and they just completely ignored it
@TheDarkEmperor-CaerOdor
@TheDarkEmperor-CaerOdor 11 күн бұрын
I think the show's adaptation was a decent alteration since while the book's was far darker, it also perhaps leans too much into the trope of trauma porn and instead depicting the sounds of the child's death and subsequent decapitation as well as the despair and loss in the eyes of Helaena as she made her choice was just gut-wrenching to behold. Why would anyone want to witness a child's head being taken? The trauma alone in the show from this act will reverberate for the rest of the season. Also to cut Maelor out might have been a smart move since in the books he's later torn apart by a mob, which is a much worse way to go. All in all I think the show did a pretty good job in emulating the source material with some decent alterations here and there.
@redadmiralofvalyria867
@redadmiralofvalyria867 11 күн бұрын
YES I AGREE I feel anyone who says "oh it sucks he was cut" always sound like they WANT to see his end essentially
@durrangodsgrief6503
@durrangodsgrief6503 8 күн бұрын
@@redadmiralofvalyria867 did we see Eddard starks death we want the content not a five second blurb
@xhyleferos3604
@xhyleferos3604 10 күн бұрын
im not prepared for that poor dog..
@sostika3004
@sostika3004 8 күн бұрын
Neither was I Infuriating scene made my blood boil
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
Maelor wasn’t even in any of season 1, having a random baby in the scene without any context as to who it is wouldve not landed (except for book readers of course) the scene was fine
@captainziggy82
@captainziggy82 11 күн бұрын
We saw the babies in like one scene.
@Jovan_Jarkarane
@Jovan_Jarkarane 11 күн бұрын
Also the fact that she left without screaming after hearing her son being killed and beheaded and just went to her mother and said "they kill the boy" like they killed someomes else son . I don't know it felt very off to me . I don't know any mother that loves her children that will react like this in such a situation.
@chaotic-doxxer
@chaotic-doxxer 11 күн бұрын
@@Jovan_Jarkaranewell tbf she is definitely implied to be neurodivergent in the show
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
@@Jovan_Jarkarane she’s autistic.
@leonrobinson2475
@leonrobinson2475 11 күн бұрын
​@@chaotic-doxxer Which is a dumb choice. Why did they make her that way, for what reason?
@dm6254
@dm6254 11 күн бұрын
Still hoping they have something up their sleeve, a reason for this that will make sense down the line, but if there isn’t one, yes, I’m disappointed by the change. The grief haunting Helaena after choosing to kill Maelor, and her suicide possibly being because the sight of her own son haunted her, is so good-not to mention the pretty significant role Maelor goes on to play. I REALLY hope they don’t cut Maelor entirely. Is it possible they’ve shifted the timeline and Helaena is pregnant right now? Is there enough time for her to have a child around the time she dies?
@stevenhedge2850
@stevenhedge2850 11 күн бұрын
ehh I disagree. Maelor doesn't really contribue anything else, besides dying and the sackign of tumbleton, which doesn't really do anything for the story besides showing the desperation of the commonfolk, which we would already be seeing in king's landing, it is rather redudant. It also makes Daeron, who is supposed to be the more noble and good Green also look like a jackass for killing everyone in tumbleton
@Niall001
@Niall001 11 күн бұрын
Blood looks like a giant, mean Samwell Tarly.
@ChefRu805
@ChefRu805 6 күн бұрын
That "criston pole" 😂
@lonzellowe9101
@lonzellowe9101 4 күн бұрын
this is funny because I bet george only added this to introduce Cats in the Red keep lol
@evansonhakeem
@evansonhakeem 11 күн бұрын
Whoever decided to have Helaena walk in on Alicent riding Christon immediately after this scene deserves to be banned from ever working on film or television ever again. It immediately takes you out of the moment and is absolutely unnecessary.
@pbh9195
@pbh9195 11 күн бұрын
Yeah it completely through off the tone they were trying to do.
@ThatLadyBird
@ThatLadyBird 8 күн бұрын
Ser Christan was working hard in Alicent's inner chambers 🤔
@reannawhitlow8330
@reannawhitlow8330 11 күн бұрын
Never stop the “Criston Pole” joke!! NEVER!!!!!
@beau0117
@beau0117 10 күн бұрын
Please paul 😅 make an audio of you reading the book
@tracidavis3565
@tracidavis3565 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown Paul. I don’t think I liked how Blood and Cheese played out in the show. Glad to have you back doing videos for House of the Dragon.
@cornelliouspollard273
@cornelliouspollard273 11 күн бұрын
" You can zoom in on this you SOB". LMAO
@inistark
@inistark 11 күн бұрын
They're lucky they didn't find Aemond. He would have made short work of both of them
@myaalexander354
@myaalexander354 9 күн бұрын
that was my other major issue with that scene. Do we really think Daemon is dumb enough to send the Wet Bandits to assassinate Aemond Targaryen? Nothing about that makes sense.
@iheartlofi
@iheartlofi 11 күн бұрын
Jaehaerys had a custom habit of playing in the library. Helaena couldn’t control her son. She didn’t love her son. So what the heck, she just pointed at her son anyway. Now her daughter will become “the Queen Who Never Was”. It’s a repeat cycle.
@sylvainmarion8110
@sylvainmarion8110 11 күн бұрын
Sir Criston Cole the Queenlayer
@KrazyKobold
@KrazyKobold 11 күн бұрын
Paul, you're clearly Team Green -- you should do a video with M.T. (or better yet, Ryan yes Ryan Bloody Arey of ScreenCrush) where one of you argues for Team Green and the other Team Black at this point in the show "Join us!" type video(s)
@jonathanstafford3383
@jonathanstafford3383 11 күн бұрын
I loved the pov perspective from the books
@christinagleave9185
@christinagleave9185 5 күн бұрын
i think they are going to make Helaena a more prominent character. Maybe the greens actually start listening to her, I also heard the tapestry she was making is a death veil for whichever child would die since she saw it in a dream. She really is a fascinating character. I hope they develop her more on screen than in the books. Her character to me was let down.
@jaimejames13
@jaimejames13 11 күн бұрын
The show neutered the Blood & Cheese big scene and made it PG friendly
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
The sound of a 5 year old getting decapitated is PG? 😂
@Ryuujin1078
@Ryuujin1078 7 күн бұрын
Hard to watch, harder to listen to…
@DeDe-by9se
@DeDe-by9se 10 күн бұрын
In which book does Blood & Cheese appear? And how far in to the book?
@bighomie101
@bighomie101 11 күн бұрын
I have the book but haven’t read it yet. (Plan to after the shows end) but as a non book reader, this scene was fire. Of course HBO isn’t going to “show show” it so that should have been expected. I think Helena Acted as she was written for the show.
@BuckyBarnesATL
@BuckyBarnesATL 11 күн бұрын
Paul, you’re the best man and you’re always first as well. I know I kiss your arse allot 😂 but it’s true. You’re the best at this. Don’t tell Greg at Reel Rejects I said this or I might get fired 😂. You be good.
@heavyspoilers
@heavyspoilers 11 күн бұрын
I’ll tell him tbf
@BuckyBarnesATL
@BuckyBarnesATL 11 күн бұрын
@@heavyspoilers oh you son of ahhh. YOU TRAITOR! 😂 JK They already know you’re the goat anyways. Get your arse over to the US. Come see Trilith Studios aka Marvel, the wifey knows people here in Atlanta. We got you.
@SonRagnar
@SonRagnar 11 күн бұрын
Love watching all the channels milk this content for everything it's worth, takes me back in time a bit lol
@ericmclean4291
@ericmclean4291 11 күн бұрын
Why make it clear that Aemond was the target? The only reason to explicitly make Aemond the target is to absolve Rhaenyra of any wrongdoing. Are we supposed to believe that Daemon would send one soldier to kill Aemond?
@DoctorKnow00
@DoctorKnow00 11 күн бұрын
The show runners are stans for the Blacks. They’ve been sanitizing the worst aspects of Rhaenyra (remember her black, gay husband from season one who they staged a murder of an innocent person to allow him to live free and allow the show to avoid the “bury your gays trope”); while amplifying the worst aspects of Aegon and Alicent. The Dance in the books was about the lesser of two evils. The Dance in the show is about “yes, slay queen”. When we get to Rhaenyra’s time as queen with the high taxes, disastrous campaigns, riots in the streets and slaying of the dragons in the pit by the smallfolk. I can already see the showrunners framing everything as not her fault. So far, Rhaenyra is lacking agency in her own story. It’s a bad look narratively.
@naufalgitaro5633
@naufalgitaro5633 10 күн бұрын
​@@DoctorKnow00aye the bias towards the black is wayy obviously
@adbenkunkus
@adbenkunkus 10 күн бұрын
@@DoctorKnow00😂😂😂😂😂 Alicent and Aegon are way worse in the books, and Daemon didn’t kill his first wife (at least not with his own hands) and never threatened physically Rhaenyra, so … 🙄
@DoctorKnow00
@DoctorKnow00 10 күн бұрын
@@adbenkunkus Still doesn't debunk the show sanitizing Rhaenyra's actions and her image. Mark my words. When the uprising of King's Landing happen and the dragon pit is stormed and all the dragons die. The showrunners will again paint Rhaenyra as not responsible or powerless to effect the plot. They are removing her agency as a character to preserve her image.
@ericmclean4291
@ericmclean4291 9 күн бұрын
​@@DoctorKnow00 I have a feeling Cole will survive the Butcher's Ball so they can prolong their stupid love triangle.
@Bwkjam
@Bwkjam 11 күн бұрын
Worth pointing out that there should have been Kings guard ynrrr, but as like half of them are Queensgusrd they are short staffed.
@sjw4life546
@sjw4life546 11 күн бұрын
As far as a scene goes, it was fine. I had no real emotional connection to Helena or the kid, so I had to draw upon the act itself as being terrible as opposed to me STILL having nightmares over the burnt screams of shireen. Yeesh
@zombiemoshery
@zombiemoshery 11 күн бұрын
I think the changes the show made will still have the same impact to Helaena and the story. Helaena looked absolutely traumatized after the incident. She didnt even register what her mom was doing, she was so much in shock. Hell, even having to hear the sound of it made me nauseated myself. I think Helaena knowing she chose one of her children to die is more important than B & C playing mind games with a child. The guilt of that choice will still probably drive her into madness with grief. And the surviving sister still may also be traumatized knowing her mother made that choice too. Its equally horrific imo.
@Ralph-vh8re
@Ralph-vh8re 9 күн бұрын
I hate how they did it in the show! Blood and Cheese could have been a key moments of Season 2 and one that people will remember like the Red Wedding. It's disappointing. And Helaena's reaction to the death of her child was also super weird! I hate how she just calmly said "they killed the boy".
@og6396
@og6396 6 күн бұрын
Truth is I really wanted to hear the cheese catcher character to say what the book depicted….” You hear that boy… your momma wants you dead” that would have satisfied my admiration for the book and lore.🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼
@evanrodriguez6452
@evanrodriguez6452 11 күн бұрын
for once I had to turn off because I didn't want anything from the next episode spoiled lol ill be back next week
@ChiefKene
@ChiefKene 11 күн бұрын
The book version was miles darker and kinda disappointed me that we didn’t see that, but tbh they took the correct approach. That would have been way too much shock value especially when we know team black is the eventual “winner”
@spacemarineultra1827
@spacemarineultra1827 11 күн бұрын
Too much shock value in a world full of shocking events....? I'm sorry, no. Whatever that rubbish was is vastly inferior to what was in the books, especially given the fact that it's one of the highlights of the dance. "They killed the boy"...no, just....noooo.
@mattcollins3591
@mattcollins3591 11 күн бұрын
@@spacemarineultra1827 what is your deal? Like seriously. You’re on almost every comment thread bitching about not seeing children be slaughtered. May want to look at yourself before bitching about a tv show.
@Niko-ys9ie
@Niko-ys9ie 11 күн бұрын
Nobody wins and that’s the point.
@kevinbaylon7660
@kevinbaylon7660 11 күн бұрын
@@spacemarineultra1827yeah, definitely no… why “the boy”? And not “my son” or “Jahaerys”… just bad writing… plus a major missed opportunity to ramp up the psychological horror like what most people who know the books have been saying…
@MyUniqueVibe
@MyUniqueVibe 10 күн бұрын
@@kevinbaylon7660 Damn, dude is really hating on an autistic character. You do realise her character was consistent throughout the show thus far, right?
@CoolAdventureCo
@CoolAdventureCo 11 күн бұрын
crtison pole is crazy 😂😂
@danielgranda896
@danielgranda896 11 күн бұрын
Man, I can’t believe they wussed out on this deliciously Shakespearian twist to Blood and Cheese. The it is not the Red Wedding but it really helped justify the escalating brutality of the the Dance. By the end of it all you have this feeling everyone is just is waiting to see who will cut off more of their own arm.
@SoranotRoxas
@SoranotRoxas 11 күн бұрын
*That dog is Azor Ahai*
@NionAeon
@NionAeon 11 күн бұрын
The book reading gave me Comicstorian vibes! Really like that kind of structure, works here especially🙏
@sithcarebear1
@sithcarebear1 7 күн бұрын
I find it odd that they changed it like they did. I’m very curious as to how the change affects the overall story going forward…🤔
@rhonwenbaker2448
@rhonwenbaker2448 3 күн бұрын
3:04 I, for one, do _not_ blame her
@ficrispin
@ficrispin 10 күн бұрын
This is why everyone needs a pet cat. Would have solved a few things from the start 😂🐈❤
@aldoruiz9618
@aldoruiz9618 8 күн бұрын
Not disappointed at all, it was brutal and raw with great acting
@gcheftjgfba2655
@gcheftjgfba2655 11 күн бұрын
Please dont "roon" it for me mate😂😂😂
@Phbalancedshorty
@Phbalancedshorty 9 күн бұрын
They have obviously chosen to switch the emotional trauma and guilt of Helena’s Sophie‘s choice onto Alicent, by changing the storyline from her choosing between her two sons to alicent sleeping with Cole while he should’ve been protecting the princes.
@K000H
@K000H 11 күн бұрын
It's a shame they didn't keep it more similar to the book, but the scene still worked. It was brutal, heartbreaking and it didn't really change anything important. Real happy with this first episode, which is awkward to say considering it ended with a child's gruesome death..
@chanelhenderson8460
@chanelhenderson8460 5 күн бұрын
I wanted to see the book faithfully adapted
@MsHananH
@MsHananH 10 күн бұрын
It was amazing how they transferred it into the show. So much better than the original
@TheJaker5
@TheJaker5 9 күн бұрын
Blood definitely doesn’t just let the servant go… when he looks up and notices that she’s left, he immediately grabs his knife and gets up with purpose! Had he not run into Cheese with the Queen, he would’ve kept looking for that servant who saw his face. 100%. So next week either Cole will find them and kill them (both?) before escaping the Keep, or the servant will provide a description of Blood that spurs a manhunt in the city
@AshenForest1
@AshenForest1 11 күн бұрын
Please review biosphere,!!
@goated3285
@goated3285 8 күн бұрын
Blood and Cheese had one job to do and this is why you got to put that hoodie on and do it yourself 😩😂
@alisterfolson
@alisterfolson 11 күн бұрын
Sophie's Choice y'all
@chuckincharlie776
@chuckincharlie776 11 күн бұрын
People are giving Phia Saban a lot of backlash and saying her performance during this scene was underwhelming. I don’t mean to sound mean, but I have grown up around a lot of close people with autism, and it’s no secret that the show has chosen to portray Helaena as someone that’s *probably* on the spectrum. I think her reaction is a very real life reaction of how someone like this would react. You’re in so much shock and your thoughts are going a million miles a minute, you don’t even know how to react. I thought she was perfect
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 11 күн бұрын
It's not her it's writers fault
@queenxx1690
@queenxx1690 11 күн бұрын
It's not her it's writers fault
@Parnell07
@Parnell07 11 күн бұрын
Definitely got an ear piece in, no chance he can read.
@bobthyw0rlord129
@bobthyw0rlord129 10 күн бұрын
I was just telling my dad how much darker in the books! But that was still crazy in the show!
@Vent69420
@Vent69420 10 күн бұрын
Ok but why don’t you cover My Adventures with Superman??
@ZachAsaD
@ZachAsaD 11 күн бұрын
Why would they change that for the show? Sounds even better
@laptop3602
@laptop3602 11 күн бұрын
the book was way better than series so much more impactful
@ivangeorgiev4676
@ivangeorgiev4676 9 күн бұрын
This kinda changes everything but I am happy that it didn't happen like in the book because I didn't wanna see that scene again to be honest
@jobanh7ify
@jobanh7ify 11 күн бұрын
Spoil me! That’s the safest way I can’t watch this show without entering into a cardiac arrest 😂
@ItzGeoDude
@ItzGeoDude 10 күн бұрын
Yea super disappointed they didn’t stick with how it happens it the book. They watered it down for no reason, especially for a GoT show
@KingKam93
@KingKam93 10 күн бұрын
I'll say this. I've read the book and for me the show was more impactful but the books account is more vile. I just didn't feel anything reading about what happened in the book. I definitely felt what happened in the show. There is knots on my stomach just remembering it the sound of them sawing his head off. Overall the episode did it's job. Though I'm Team Black, makes you realise in this show, there are no heroes and villains and the reason Dance of the Dragon is my favourite event in Westeros is that it is a tragedy through and through. A LOT of horrific things are going to happen, this is just the start.
@AussBosss
@AussBosss 10 күн бұрын
Criston Pole 💀
@sophisticatedknuckledragge650
@sophisticatedknuckledragge650 10 күн бұрын
Blood and cheese felt very watered down have they left it more similar to the book I think it would’ve been the next red wedding
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