My bad for mixing up SMT and Persona with the footage. Don't flay me. Thanks for watching!

Any time anyone brings up the demonic imagery in Doom it reminds me of the one response, that Doom has a "very strong anti-demon message."

So interestingly in Elder Scrolls, they were originally called demons in the first game Arena, and Daggerfall would go onto to explain that the phrase "demon" was used by laymen of Tamriel to describe the Daedra, whereas the word Daedra was used by academic and scholarly sorts.

TES Daedra are the best evil characters in video game history because the lore is so strong and identifiable. The lore is consistent across the games and we can buy into it whole heartedly. Most importantly they give the princes a reason. Every villain needs a sympathetic thing that makes us drop our guard and lowkey empathize with the evil. There is also a scale, from Sanguine to Molag Bal.

Gaunter O'Dimm from a Witcher 3 dlc was a fantastic representation of a demon. He took on a humanoid form, & was helpful, although quite a trickster. Reminds me of Clavicus Vile a bit, but more fleshed out & intricate. His initials boiling down to G.O.D is also a nice touch.

I wish we got to see more of the good side to Mehrunes Dagon. The times when revolution and change are necessary such as Saint Alessia's slave rebellion and the exodus of the Chimer from their Aldmeri overlords; it's odd to me that Dagon's hand is not seen in these events despite their proximity to his domain. Perhaps it's telling that the successful and just revolutions of the Elder Scrolls lore were the ones that kept their distance from the prince of change. If the goal of your uprising is to replace the ruling order with your own then Dagon will eventually always become your enemy no matter the outcome. Only the system of rising and falling, the process of eternal superation and supplanting, remains under him. His design reminds me of an asura, a jealous titan, from Hindu and Buddhist cosmology. Asura are beings that constantly covet and vie for the power of the deva - the ruling gods. That is why they are called jealous. Dagon is the embodiment of that state of constantly fighting against the powers that be, interminably unsuccessful. His lordship over change specifically, meanwhile, could be more closely linked to anitya and Yama in Buddhism but the connection isn't as strong in my opinion.

Man this is one my top 10 channels, I hope you enjoy making them as much as I like watching them.

Me: has intense case of daemonophobia Also me: *proceeds to watch video about demons*

Big props to CDPR for Gaunter O'Dimm as well. He's quite restrained when it comes to showing the powers he's capable of. He looks down on a lot of magic, seeing it as basic and warps reality at will. He's a great example, I believe of a trickster kind of God or Demon.

I always kinda laugh when i see the lesser key of Solomon and there's a demon president.

@5:05 That fable theme. Very good choice. Brings me chills from the nostalgia

I wish any game ever would let you have in depth demon summoning. I wanna fight hell with more hell, or kill a lich with a balor.

One of my favorites is Castlevania, which started as an almost Universal monster movie man vs Dracula type of game and evolved into a veritable funhouse of demons, oni, monsters, and strange creatures from mythology, demonology, folklore and literature.

When talking about the more messed up, medieval depictions of demons, and how they're not really portrayed in western games, I'm surprised you didn't even mention Dante's Inferno. That game had some surreal designs.

And sort of a related topic: I love when video games and other stories showcase anything celestial or divine in its true and terrifying form. Painting all things otherworld as foreign and frightening. Making me question everything, causing my head to burst with madness.

Anyone with an interest in eastern depictions of demons/oni should play okami. The style alone is gorgeous and the attention to detail on the demon enemies is like candy to anyone with any familiarity with Japanese history/mythology. And even if you don't have a familiarity it's still fun and unique all around experience.

Daedra and the Dragon Age Demons are very interesting takes. Pride and Desire demons tend to be the most fascinating

The Souls Games are heavily inspired by Kentaro Miura's Berserk. And in this MAnga the vastly diverse Apostles are heavily inspired by the Visuals of Demon Depictions of the Middle Ages and 15th to 16th century. One of Heronimus Bosch's art piece is even directly copied in one of the panels :D Another heavy inspiration of Berserk is H.G. Giger the swiss artist who created the design of the Alien in the Movie Alien of 1979.

A pattern i've spotted in Ghostcharm's videos: "Lets talk about The Elder Scrolls for a second" A man of culture! "I have a feeling that me and you are about to be very close"

How does this only have 2k views? It mentions Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls, and Persona in one video. (Admittedly, I've never played nor have interest in Persona. But I know it has a dedicated following) More seriously though, well done. You made some good points, and it was entertaining to listen to. I never gave enough credit to Elder Scrolls' Daedra, for breaking away from the "7 sins" aspect of "demons".

I've always loved Hieronymus Boschs' artwork, I could happily study his paintings for hours

Anyone else get some nostalgia from the background music with just a male choir singing "aah"? It reminds me of fable...

Never gave it much thought but this video made me look at games in a whole new light. SMT is an all time favorite of mine. Some of the demons in the series are exactly what I think of when I hear demon

Great video again ! I study game design and I'm taking good notes ;)

That Demons Souls music is SO sick. Incredibly eerie and demonic. It sounds almost exactly like the score in the final climactic scene of the movie The Ninth Gate, incidentally a movie about...The Devil.

I would like to see a game at some point that delves into the deeper occult lore behind some of the larger names in demonology. Anyone who's read the _Ars Goetia_ will attest that demons and devil's can be a lot more nuanced that how Doom or Dante's Inferno portrays them; I think that would be an interesting avenue of study for a game in the future.

With the thirty-seven keys of Tzeentch, we open the way for our brothers. With the thousand whispers of Slaanesh, we call to them. With the twelve plagues of Nurgle, we fell their enemies. And with the mighty axe of Khorne, we cut open the world for them.

You deserve way more likes and a subs,your attention to detail is amazing,not to mention the editing involved, truly amazing buddy.thankyou.

5:04 OOF, that Fable music... Oh, that hits the nostalgia hard.

anyone else notice that's a TimeSplitters track playing in the background around the 11 minute mark? props to you ghostcharm

Gotta wonder how people think a game is satanic when you fight demons in it.

My favorite demons are the ones that don't even have to be grotesque or weird to put fear in you. Akuma from SF and Kane from WWE come to mind.

Great video, I'm glad I found your channel. One great demon you missed, and my favourite, would be Gaunter O'Dimm from the Witcher 3. A fascinating, well realised character and an excellent recreation of the classic tale of 'Faust'.

A look at lovecraftian and cosmic horror influences in games would be a great video!

my favorite video game demons are from TES DOOM and Dragon Age I've always loved how they did dragon age demons the most

Thank god that i got one of your vids recommended, another lore channel for me to binge watch 😍😍😍😍 Top notch work my man!

The smoldering corpse bar part won me

I like the idea of Warhammer 40k "Demons" and how they are interacting with each other. The happiness of the Children of Nurgle and how they infiltrate and eventually conquer Citys or planets and the worshipping part that makes them stronger.

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite channel on the KZfaq.

Nice. I really liked the writing for the conversations with demons in Dragon Age: Origins.

Anyone wondering what the intro sound is, it's the Demonic Chanting from Doom Eternal. So you can search that up

great video! this is just a personal bias of mine, but I also wish you covered dante's inferno ;_;

I love how you included a clip from Agony (Not well known game) but you didn't even once mention the Demons created by the Chaos gods from WH40K. Like their lore and what they are and what they can do, how do they look and why. It all goes deep AF, My personal favorites being The Lord of Change, A greater demon of Tzeentch.

You could also have talked about the Forgotten Realms differentiation between devils and demons if you liked the deadra

FromSoftwares imaginative character designs and art direction is so excellent

The SMT series deserved a more in-depth analysis as they are probably the most unique and accurate, not only in the sense of appearance but in the sense of morality. SMT gives the infernal powers ethical reasons beyond mindless destruction for doing the things that they do, to the point that under a certain perspective they can be characterized as the good guys and sided with.

I think the main mistake when it comes to demons, too many people resort to cristian hell demons. As you said, so many cultures made dark, spiritual monsters. - Wendigos in native american folklore - Black Donalds in scottish folklore - Yokai and Chaos spirits in Japanese mythology - (add more you want, my list is running short) A demon could come in so many interpretations, yet usually, its the classic devil look, or at least a sinister hell demon. Those monsters stand for much more than just basic evil. I think a good demon interpretarion should speak to us on a spiritual level. Demons are basically the darkest incarnation of your darkest emotions. They should also hit that certain element that demons have. Dragons have the same kind of element as a reptilic base. It is a dark and enchanting tone, yet also brutal and unnerving. Something going deep, touching your most formless fears. You understand what i mean. Overall, as someone whos favourite mythological creatures, i think a demon should be made something special, like a vampire, werewolve, giant, witch, dragon or ghost. The question should not be: how many demons will your hero defeat? It should be: how many demons will your hero survive? So, thats my thoughts about demons.

"Hoopy memes?" Are you a zarking frood? Because I know where my towel is.

SMT (the series Persona spun off from) has some really interesting designs

I think a video about the undead, necromancy, or zombies in video games would be cool.

You can not just causally slide in some TimeSplitters 2 music, my God I love this

the suffering's monsters are all representative of horrible ways to die, beheading, firing squads, burial and starvation, while they technically aren't called demons, they're still awesomely designed

"This is where i want to bring up the persona series" Me, a MegaTen fan getting Nam flashbacks to the IGN review of SMT5: "Awww shit, here we go again"

Love the Smouldering Corpse Bar ambience at 14:45

Dante's Inferno is probably one of the best depictions of demons and Hell in any video game. Plus the combat in that game was top notch.

One cool thing about Doom's version of Hell is that Hell is an entire separate dimension in itself that attacks and invades all the planets, galaxies, systems etc. Which is cool, no matter how advanced the Alien race is, they are still a bitch to Satan

Wow I thought I'd never hear the music from time splitters 3 here in 2022 haha great video

One of my favourite representations of demons in video games is demon souls. Cause a demon there is actually just anything that accumulates souls other than their original, a demon soul is just that the amalgamated souls that demon hoarded until u killed it. And in a very real way you the player become a demon as you collect these souls and empower yourself

"Some dude will go inside your body and you'll explode" Don't threaten me with a good time.

My favorite depictions of demons are eastern and Lovecraftian... and then there's the literal description of stuff like angels. Look that up and describe it to yourself, terrifying! One set of demons that I doubt you've seen are all of the demon family monsters included in FFXI online. Due to its stained nature for being an MMO and being an old MMO now, not a lot of people have played it. But in that game we have the demons: Dark Kindred - Bat-like men humanoids encased in obsidian steel hides with membrane wings on their back, often wielding powerful sorcery on top of brute strength. Imps - small flying horn blowing annoyances, possessed of powerful sorcery. Their horns cause you to forget your own skills or rob you of your voice and intellect. Gallu - Large horned humanoids, far larger than any other demons. They are roughly bipedal elephants, no trunks though. Sort of standard western styled demon or perhaps an admixture of an Oni with one. Ahrimans - A Final Fantasy staple, also known as Floating Eyes. Cyclopean with bat wings that flag from the top of their heads. Possessed of magic. Related to Zoroaster mythos IRL. Dvergr - Twist potbellied demons that sit upon levitated thrones of gold or other metals. Generally accompanied by pairs of floating skulls. They have skulls for faces with horn-like moustaches. Insanely powerful sorcerers. Absolute terrors to fight. Tauri - Grey skinned winged beasts with ram like horns, scythe like claws filled with potent venom, and extra long tails. They run fast as Chocobos almost. They have instant death gaze. Gargouilles - Skeletal flying beaked things with piercing yellow or red eyes. Masters of darkness thought to be made reality via the dreams of mortals and other demons. Souflayers - Mindflayers from D&D, but given a Final Fantasy XI twist. Rather than just existing as their own being they are the result of alchemical alteration performed upon any of the five "blessed" races of Vana'diel. This alchemical procedure grants one the ability to wield Blue Magic... but all power comes at a cost, and the moment the Blue Mage falters and loses to the beast within, they mutate inside and out, becoming a Soulflayer. Exceptionally powerful Blue Mages retain their sentience and humanity for a time after the mutation. A well kept secret by the Empire of Aht Urgahn, who tells mercenaries who come across these creatures from time to time when a mutation is witnessed that the Imperial Blue Mages are merely suffering from, "Kraken Flu."

Caelid had one of my favourite hell-inspired wastelands, out of every game I’ve played I have never been so disgusted and impressed by all the monsters that roam Caelid, and some of them like the massive dogs with really nasty long necks are genuinely terrifying imo. They make some of the most horrifying sounds I’ve ever experienced in gaming

Props using the Tristram music :)

I personally enjoy harmeus mora, though nurgle from 40k is pretty good

Found your channel recently and holy shit, the greatest content. Amazing effort man, amazing videos.

I would have to say that my favorite Demons from fiction have to be the ones we see in the Zelda series

The daedric princes are my favorite "demons" because they aren't necessarily evil, like Azura, she is borderline benevolent at worst.

BG3’s Minzora is just sublime.

All I got to say: Im glad you used Planescape:Torment soundtrack. Thank you

It's a terrible shame that you mentioned DeS and DkS and didn't elaborate on their demons. Especially in DkS the demon race has one of the most beautiful and heartbreaking, bittersweet lore I've ever seen.

Well in the Hellenic world Deamon meant pretty much every type of spirit. Left overs of the protector Deamon can be seen in the gargoyles on churches today.

(Reads subject) "yes please!" (Ringing hands. Twirling mustache)

Please do a video on goblins and goblin-like creatures

16:38 warhammer daemons, there is 3 total war games with them, Space Marine game, dawn of war series, battlefleet Gothic armada games a bit too, daemonhunters chaos gate is literally all about fighting daemons

I have a demon tattoo on my arm it is the ass faced one that has a goat like head with hyena sorta mouth on the head it is a sketch that my aunt drew and every image I have found of it nearly completely different from what she had drawn back in her day it couldn't have been traced from details being similar to 3 of it but it was always in hunched over position not standing perfectly straight up depiction of demon at this time stamp 13:12 also she added bat like wings to her drawing

I'm also very happy you included Soulsborne games and Nioh! I'm actually playing Nioh 2 as I'm listening to this video! These games are my absolute favorite and they surely depict demons in a truly majestic way.

wrath of righteous has such great demon lords with crazy good lore

5:04 the fable music!

Ohh my God was that the Timesplitters 2 Soundtrack? I loved that Game back then so much xD

Honestly I think it would be pretty neat to have demons as an enemy type in the game without telling you that they're demons. Like give them bunch of resistances that they all share but don't do the typical thing where an NPC tells you shit like "there's a demon ahead, they're weak to silver". Just keep them mysterious until you could find information explaining that they're demons summoned by someone in an end game area. Could,not will,have it be something missable.

The timesplitters music made me sub

Nice DOOM Eternal hell choir at the beginning

That fable music came in 👌

love the Fable background music

Sad how the burning legion has been neutered in modern wow compared to being the mysterious hell creatures they were in warcraft 3

The Warhammer 40k universe has some awesome demons in form of the Chaos Gods. Because they always personify something evil but also something good

I was enjoying the video when 10:00 MF timesplitters 2 menu music blessed my ears

Love that Gregorian chant from Fable use there 😉

Bro at 9:55 I see you with that Timesplitters 2 main theme

Loved the video, you confused Persona with SMT for a bit, otherwise it was dope!

Well I would argue that Persona has more to do with personal demos come to life and how to confront and overcome them

impressive. do you plan to do a video about orcs in the furure?

Gaunter O'Dimm is what some call a demon in the witcher series but whether or not he actually is one is debatable, one thing is for sure the way the witcher 3 handled demons and goetia was chilling and subtle.

14:05 I was literally about to say the demon of song

1:40, what is the music in bg, im looking for that for so long, fallout diablo? Which one? I cant find it...

3:40 that guys name is American McGee?!?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

One thing you forgot to mention that I like about the daedra is that there are actually many other planes of oblivion and even princes that exist the 17 are just the weird ones that actually care about mortals

Such a sick video, thank you sir!

I have recently played through blasphemous and while not technically demons some enemies in that game definitely have that feeling of wtf

10:48 Wow, can't believe they got away with that one.

Kinda surprised nothing from Dante's Inferno made it into here