Sorry about the little whoopsie at 14:00! Editing error 😬

Most of the Hisuian Typhlosions I’ve seen lean further into its existing ferocity, sometimes taking inspiration from a badger shogun character from Japanese lore, so I love that you decided to go in almost the complete opposite direction instead

Not gonna lie. I wasn’t a fan of Hisuian Decidueye at first, but the more they brainstormed ideas, themes, and inspirations, the more it grew on me.

I am only commenting to say: I’ve missed Nick and Jane and it’s good to hear from them! Hopefully we’ll hear from them (and Ailish of course) again.

Love Hisuian Typhlosion. Though I wish it’d kept a little more of it’s spike, a little more bristly, I love the mellowed concept. For me it reads as: “Typhlosion found a volcanic region, so the energy that is constantly pent up was able to release into the Earth” almost like Hisuian Typhlosion is in a constant state of catharsis.

The Typhlosion's design is so perfect! There's a Japanese story about a rabbit burning a tanuki's back. You know, like how before this Typhlosion there was a fire rabbit starter.

This Typhlosion form is such a friend I love it

It was nice to see the old crew come back for this. I miss the group's brainstorming when it comes to these designs. Out of the three, Samurott has my favorite new form. I was always disappointed with the original design and this feels more in-line with what Dewott should have turned into, in my opinion.

I think samurott should've been water/rock. That way you've still got the ice, ground, and rock reverse weakness trio, but also get the grass/ice, fire/ground, water/rock 4x super effective weakness trio (fire is x4 against grass/ice, water is x4 against fire/ground, and grass is x4 against water/rock).

Honestly, very cool, Typhlosion was my first ever starter Pokémon in soul silver, and seeing this new form makes me happy, and I hope all the starters get something new :)

YES FINALLY THE RETURN OF THE SHITTY MIC! And I guess Nick and Jane are alright too. As a stubborn fan of the old vids, I really needed this ❤️

When thinking about regional variants I usually take it from an evolutionary scientific standpoint. Because these are fundamental concepts of evolution. New environment. New stressors etc etc. so I look at the region I want to have this Pokémon move to and look at what is already there that makes sense Like if I was gonna do shroomish I’d look at the region it’s going to and try to research “what kind of mushrooms already live here” and start there

I've always thought that typhlosion was a boring design, and your take on a variant is brilliant! there's so much character to it. happy to hear jane and nick again! love all of the recent content but I missed the vibe of those old videos with the whole gang.

I think Samurott should be Water/Rock. That way, each starter's primary type is 4x strong against the next in the cycle. Also, otters already have an existing relationship to rocks (what they use to bust open clamshells). Dewott could have a rock that resembles and functions as a naturally formed version of some sort of blunt weapon used in the dynasty wars.

I really like these. Each one seems to be perfect for every "type" of final evolution people enjoys, those being "cute and big", "quirky" and "badass"

Tricky, floofy, and stoicism, all are good and these designs are great, you all did an amazing job with this (also I’m glad to see the gang back together)

I think in the game, they're going to stablish the Wott line as coming from Hisui since the Gen 5 starters were designed to feel foreign (Serperior has french motifs, and Emboar, chinese ones). As if they were traded to Unova for the starters program as a symbolic gesture, kinda like the Statue of Liberty.

I do love the brainstorming, but especially with Decidueye I think you forgot to take into account regional variants are usually influenced A LOT by the real life region/people/history that the game is going to be based on. And not just on the surface level, but they usually go in quite deep. Since this game is basically set in ancient Japan (Hokkaido) with its natives, the Ainu people (who historically hunted with bow and arrow and did have an owl kamui as an important deity in their mythology), I was surprised to not really see any of that incorporated. The Tengu is a very nice idea conceptually for A Pokemon (considering we already have Shiftry), I just don't think it exactly fits THIS particular Pokemon and seems a little far-fetched, if you understand what I mean? It seems less like a concept rooted in history/mythology here and more like something done *solely* for design purposes. It honestly didn't bother me as much with Typhlosion, so I don't know if maybe I'm just biased there? That being said, I do like the designs overall tho! Typhlosion is super cute! And Samurott is definitely such a step up to its original design!

Your Hisuian Typhlosion honestly looks like a giant Cyndaquil, and I'm all for it. If this were the final evolution I would pick Cyndaquil in a heart beat! For the Decidueye one I like the concept and the entry for it in the Pokedex, but I'm not in love with the design. If it were a real design I'd have to see it's personality in game since sometimes that can change my outlook on a Pokemon design. This Samurott looks so cool! I feel like the original design missed a lot of opportunities for not only design but the typing as well.

ngl kinda want to know about how they feel about the actual designs

I actually started watching when It was the five of you haha

I would’ve loved to have seen Hisuian Forme Ralts lines. Since Gardevoir can be either sex, they could’ve based their design off of a kabuki performer, with the male/female distinction being something as simple as eye/mouth markings. Gallade could have had samurai-esque basis that could’ve worked with his weird yugioh GX “duel disk is permanently part of my anatomy” anatomy. 😂

Honestly I was most happy to just see Nick and Jane again. I remember way back in the day when you did videos for Animal Crossing together that got me to subscribe. Also I can’t help but see Decidueye’s form as just Berdly, which I love.

I loved seeing Nick and Jane again and would love to see more content with the gang.

Damn. I missed Nick and Jane. Really cool to have them back. Love the designs too.

I really enjoyed hearing from Nick and Jane again! As for the designs I personally love OG decidueye, but adorable tanuki-phlosion is my jam. And remake Samurott is giving me a serious urge to open up Blender...hmmmm

The new wings for decidueye make me think of a pine tree, that might help for camouflage 👀

YOOO!!! Dude, I didn't even realize how much I missed Nick and Jane!! Hope everyone's doing okay. :] Also, the "Sound type" reference- lmao.

Your designs are way better than the official Hisuian forms.

Missed seeing the whole crew! Would’ve loved to see Ailish too!

Been a while since the crew has been back together. Looking forward to some more

Yay! I'm so happy to see Nick and Jane in another video. I also love the varients you all came up with as these are the most unique variant designs I have seen for the starters. Even making samurott another samurai design, you were able to make a unique design of the more samurai variant that I have not seen before. Amazing artwork once again.

I love these designs! 💕 I think Decidueye, with that long beak changed a little too much for me it feels a little more related to Farfetch'd than the original Decidueye. By the way, you're definitely showing how much you've improved from the Meowth's design! It's face feels a little bit asymmetric now, but these lasts designs are sick and very much believable!!

During the deisgn and conversation I really thought Disidueye would be Dark type! I think it would be a great switch from the ghost, following the theme of darkness and stealth, and also dark type is considered the "evil type" and mischief!

DO MOREBOF THIS , I love the banter and the genuine feeling that this group seems to have, 100% should do one where each person of the gang makes a pokemon for your region, I'd love to see what y'all do for the region

They all look fantastic! It was made even better with the old gang back! Glad you guys got the chance to catch up!

also YES more gang content i love seeing everyone and everyone's art all together

Love the Samurott design! He looks fierce and kinda reminds me of Incinaroar. Sometimes the fans designs are better then the actual designs.

Love these forms and all the growth youve done as an artist over years has really got you to a point where you are nailing these renders. I'm used to traditional so am still shading in greys colour laying over so seeing you and Claire, who have such a good grasp of colour theory makes me jealous, keep up the good work.

This was a super cool video, I really enjoyed the discussion process of bouncing off ideas and working through a project together. First time stumbling upon your content and its great work. thank you

Would love to see more videos of the full squad, you all bounce off eachother so well

Fantastic to see Nick and Jane back! I think the return of this kind of loosely edited brainstorming format brings a lot of variety, humour and energy to the channel :) While it may not be as good a fit for the script to camera videos explaining your own designs/video essay formats on character design it makes natural sense here and I've missed it.

awh i loved to see part of the gang back 😭 i hope you guys can do more like these! i feel like you bounce off another soooo well to brainstorm these fantastic Designs!

I cannot even BEGIN to explain how damn enthusiastic I was when I saw Samurott in the thumbnail- But besides that, listening to the gradual conception of the designs as well as the ideas being traded between all of you guys was incredibly fun! This was fantastic!! ⭐️

Little did they know, there would be almost no change.

I kinda disagree with Decidueye being the hardest because he's "just a guy" when he's literally an archer and could take inspiration from the traditional japanese archer outfits. Give him a hakama and BAM that's Hisuian Decidueye lmao. Not saying I don't like your design, of course, I think it's fantastic and really creative. Tanuki Typhlosion is SO cute.

i love seeing the gang back together! The episodes where you just drew something and chatted was maybe some of my faves

OH MY GOOOD so cool to hear the gang again! More content with them FOR SURE! Awesome designs guys!

I love when subjectively starts a video with some good memes👌

Coming here to reminisce because these Typhlosion and Decidueye designs look so much better than the actual ones 😫

I love the new half of this channels content, but I will always have love for the humble beginnings. Been around for a while now, and I have to say it was nice to see Nick and Jane. Love y’all!

when i first started watching this channel a year and a half ago and i was watching the older (at the time) vids i like how the whole gang were there tossing ideas and jokes and such around ! its nice to see them sometimes even if what the channel generally does now is also very very good also i love hisuian typhlosion

I loved the samurott and Typhlosion! Decidueye was my least favorite design but that’s just my opinion. I think I like a more friendly and approachable starter Pokémon but I get you guys went for a mischievous look. I think the samurott design was a complete upgrade over the original and you guys killed it! I do think it screams fighting type but regardless I think it was a home run. I also loved how Typhlosion looks friendly but could also hold it’s own. I would love to see another video with the OG crew!!

Unique video, curious what new Hisuian forms are coming? I'd definitely like Hisuian Typhlosion if it's a thing.

I love all of these, especially Samurott as he's my favorite starter out of the three. Amazing job, glad to see everyone brainstorming pokemon designs again.

It´s wonderfull to see the old crew reunited. I myself don´t knew this channel that long but I watched all the old videos and it was a great fun.

What happened to the beautiful snow owl idea?! '^>^ The Typhlosion regional design is very lovable and by far my favourite! But the section from 14:05 - 14:50 does not visually work. I am not a big fan of humanoid Pokémon, neither do I like Samurott - probably mainly due to it being increadibly slow and weak. You gave Samurott a bipedal stance and a literal sword without even thinking about how he might be able to put it away when not in battle. And the shoulder plates do not look like an integral part of its body, but rather like additional armor which is not what you would want to achieve. I do really wish for a Samurott samurai make-over with katana shaped shell swords and sheath elements on his back. Thanks for feeding my Pokémon Arceus hype! :)

Bring back the gang more!

Long-time fan here, and I love love LOVE the roundtable style discussions you guys had. I love your current content a whole lot too! But I do miss the banter and jokes and good vibes you had with the whole crew. This was a great shot of nostalgia for me!

amazing vid fellas love all the designs especially typhlosion - so unique!

I think they look cool, but the problem with Decidueye and Typhlosion compared to Samurott is that I can still identify Samurott as a regional form and I can only see the others as entirely new Pokemon. Typhlosion doesn't even look like he's from the same evolution line.

Y’all don’t know how excited I was when Jack introduced the old team again

I love these videos with a both a lesson and cool designs! Also fun seeing the other guys back

Love all these designs, they’re all so different than the general fan expectations but still right on theme with the hisuian design!

Just came back to watch this again and weep at the thought that the starters COULD have looked like this. But no, they look AWFUL. Big sad, very big sad.

9:40 low key ursaluna

I love this return to form with you guys brainstorming together.

Yay a classic style episode, I apreciate having some of the crew back!

I like these designs, the Hisuian forms are awesome so this is cool. My favourite is definitely Typhlosian, as you improved it in my opinion Hisuian Decidueye is equally good as it’s Alolan counterpart, love the typing and the tengu influence The Samurott is without a doubt my least favourite. It reminds me of Incineroar, plus I adore normal Samurott, so this is a step down in my eyes

God how I missed the Subjectively Crew all coming together to make some good stuff. Maybe next time Ailish can join (if she wants of course)!

I adore how you guys came together on Typhlosion. It's design just feels so humbling. Fantastic job on making the fire look friendly.

It’s so fun to see the crew together because your brainstorming is so inspiring and fun to watch! I looooove what y’all came up with, the inspirations for everything, and how your discussions evolved and changed. I think Typhlosion might be my favorite cuz I wanna just give him a hug but all of them look so good it’s hard to decide!! Also why you gotta do my man Decidueye like that? Grass/ice is so painful lmao

i honestly think these are better than the ones we actually got

To be completely honest, when you were drawing typhlosion, i thaught the branches on it's back were cigarettes giving it the Fire and Dark/ Poison typing. But when the brainstorming played out i realized they were branches.

Great designs and great concepts once again! Especially love the Tengu Decidueye. Great to see the gang back together for a bit, seeing the ideas bounce off each other is such a cool thing to see.

So good to see most of the crew come together again, missed them so much!!!! Would love to see each of you pick a random Pokémon and make a Hisuian design off of it like the old days.

i missed the gang ❤️

The gang accidentally created the perfect Kachi-Kachi Yama reference in Hisuian Typhlosion. In the tale of Kachi-Kachi Yama, a rabbit tricks a Tanuki into carrying quite a bit of wood on its back, then sets it on fire. The ground typing even references how much later in the story, the Tanuki creates a boat out of mud. You could definitely pull some lore chicanery with a rabbit Pokémon teaching the fearsome Johto Typhlosion humility, “grounding” it and making it bear the burden of chopping and carrying wood to give fire to people or something.

I would definitely enjoy some more content with the gang! Excellent video you guys! Really enjoyed this one.

I really enjoyed seeing the old faces again, the way you all collaborate together is so much fun to listen to, I feel like I’m a part of the design. I love your guy’s videos, thanks for putting out some awesome designs!!

I wish they went with a more samurai looking design for the new samurott. I like the new typing a ton but the new form is just the same thing with a different shell color and some spikier bits on him. If they kept the water/dark typing and went with like an old grizzled ronin type design I think it would have been suuuuper cool, instead with just got a shiny with a new type :/

The only issue I take with this trio is that Decidueye has a 4x weakness to Fire and Steel, Typhlosion has a 4x Weakness to Water, while Samurott has no 4x weakness- I would have made it water/rock just to even things out with a high grass weakness- while still allowing one to say that its armor has hardened into a rock-like state.

Not only did you exponentially improve on both Typhlosion and Samurott's designs (although I was always a huge fan of Decidueye's), but you subverted expectations perfectly. I love how you think of Pokemon not just as creatures, but as characters. It makes ALL the difference in your design approach and it truly shines through here. I'm not a Typhlosion fan whatsoever, but I would adopt that boy in a heartbeat! Seeing such drastic changes makes me want to imagine what other ways existing Pokemon could be seen through different lenses. Thank you so much for this and shoutout to Nick and Jane - it's so good to see them again!

I saw the thumbnail and legitimately thought I was looking at the leaks lmao. And it’s so good to hear from the old crew too!

Damn, I've missed the old crew.

So… I prefer the official designs, after waiting to see what was coming along. So, let’s compare what they got. So the new Decidueye seems to pull from Ronins more than anything, so they got that and the personality wrong, but to be fair, the design was ENTIRELY their own and I respect it. The beak was interesting, the colors popped, and the typing was nice, but sadly underpowered, like regular Decidueye. With Typhlosion, I love the look they went for… If it was a different Pokémon. The official one keeps the vibe they had in mind though, being a kind, helpful soul. The Tanooki aspects just didn’t work for me sadly, and I much prefer the gorgeous idea of a spirit guide than a random merchant. Volo, as a character, checked that box, and I think that should be considered as well. Either Pokémon should go in tandem with characters, or characters and Pokémon should take up individual roles that the other may not take. With Samurott… Yeah I prefer this one. The fact that EVERYONE thought Samurott would be more honorable is hilarious to me, because it pulled an Incineroar. I love it. However, this design feels a lot better as a variant, and fits with the other two just a bit better. A bipedal Samurott matches nicely with the official Decidueye and Typhlosion, making them all feel anthropomorphic in a way that shows trainer progress. I understand it’s unfair to compare a Fakemon to an official design, but I think they made good designs no matter what. I think the only one I PREFER is Samurott, but they are all close to their Hisuian forms in the ways I like them. Subjectively Ratings: H. Decidueye: 7/10 H. Typhlosion: 7/10 H. Samurott: 8/10 Official Ratings H. Decidueye: 8/10 H. Typhlosion: 8/10 H. Samurott: 6/10 Also, yes. I know this is a lot for a comment on a KZfaq video, but I’d like to see what everyone else thinks since all the comments seem to be from before the game released.

I was going back to watch some old big group videos from the channel so it's nice to see the team looking bigger again!

I just love this channel and hearing the thought process about how you ended up with the designs. Keep up the good work!

Do you think you could do a wendigo pokemon or a pokemon that shrinks as it evolves

I want to cry, because THESE are the Hisuian region starters I want. The ones that have been released for the actual game just make me sad… Jack, James Turner should really hit you up, my man.

I love samurott, its my favorite pokemon. When i saw the samurott design i wasn't digging it but as soon as it switched from the red to the blue armor i instantly loved it, great work guys

I loved this so much. The designs you made were awesome and I’m glad we got to see more of the old Subjectively crew again.

I Just wish this game was less ugly 😭 those textures kills my soul

I similarly loved Typhlosion as a kid & now realize that it's bad. If they just had its fire collar out all the time, it'd be 1000% improved.

Awesome to see more of the gang together again, love the designs!

I loved the format of this video with the gang! While I'm also a huge fan of the highly structured breakdowns, I love having it broken up by just casual chatter of you guys coming up with design inspiration.

I've really missed Nick and Jane. The way your personalities mesh and the different art styles is what initially drew me to the channel. It was like a second Drawfee. These forms totally fit within the modern Pokemon world. I'm personally annoyed with Game Freak making all the starters humanoid. For the past three generations the final starter evolutions have all been humanoid.

Your samurott design looks way better than the official 'recolor'

love seeing the gang (almost) all back together!!

i’ve been a fan of the channel since about 2019 i’d say, but i’ve gone back and watched the older videos as well. So when Nick, Claire, and Jane popped up on my screen the sCREAM THAT I SCRUMPT i’m so happy y’all made this, it brings me back to the good old days :)