I love your videos, except for the way you communicate your talking points. You come off as an irritated 20-year-old brat. That's not exactly your fault though (I talk like that too btw), people are just less likely to pay attention to you. I know, it sucks.

Personally I think this is the worst of the $40 expansions so this video was great

Algorithm showed me this video, so I've never seen your content. I also watched so I think I earned being hateful. :)

Death note, Light Theme

@jakarreh you're 75% right, you missed a track, but nice job lol

The lore has mostly been well done and interesting, credit where due. But you're right, it has been overused to right the ship and that's not good. Jez talked about that in his Lightfall story analysis, and he's 100% right. Lore should not be considered "the story." Lore should expand on the story and give it more context for those interested enough to seek it out.

That was the taken kings problem, it has a solid campaign fun wise, but narrative? Nope. Gotta collect all 50 calcified fragments if you wanna learn anything about the hive.

Personally I like Forsaken and The Witch Queen the most, I need to listen to TFS more

Dunno about that one. Deep Stone Lullaby just hard carries the soundtrack for beyond light so far and above everything that came before and after. The atmosphere and the dialogue as you do the space walk and that track kicks in. One of the best Destiny moments ever.

@@Chaotic_H3LL nah come on the raid tracks for one are fire, the music overall is quite good with not a lot of weak spots, which I can't say the same for some other expansions

@@Chaotic_H3LL Frigid Tomb is also a certified banger tho

I like the Lightfall sountrack the most. The female melodic vocals are heaven to me

As it should

Which it should, bungie in general needs more flack for sunsetting, seasons too. Seasons were such a waste for destiny's potential over the years, the content might not have been that great in the seasons but the fact they wasted time making something that would go away from anywhere from 3 months to a year is inexcusable, my only issue with people shitting on bungie during the lightfall era was everyone focused on microtransactions and the bad dlc and not the glaring problem of seasons.

as it should

@@filipgasic2642 No it should not lmao.

​@@-HezSEs-So you're fine with content get taken away? Especially the ones you paid for?

Yeah I got all that, but it came off as too subtle and incredibly corny

@@Nanokk_ true

This is actually wrong. I refer you to the lore book Bitter, "The Crux was broken." This lore book details how the Exo Stranger came to control Stasis, and her upbringing as a Bray went against her initial efforts and she lost control of Stasis. Why? Because she tried to control it. She comes to control Stasis because she learns to let go of that control. We never struggle with this in game, because the player character instantly masters every power they come across with Strand being the only exception. Lightfall effectively establishes that to use Darkness powers or abilities, you have to surrender control. That could, in hindsight, explain why Eramis doesn't seem to have full control over Stasis; she believes it is not only her gift, but it is her right and hers alone. She tries to control it to such a degree that what happens to Elsie happens to her, and unlike Elsie she doesn't have help to break free. Why and how the player Guardian "falls" in the Dark Timeline is never stated or explained. It could possibly be the Witness having a direct line to our Ghost somehow, something that I don't think it does to ANY other Ghost. It could possibly be a reference to how many players joked about joining the Darkness when Beyond Light originally previewed Stasis. EDIT: I am double checking the Dark Future lorebook just to fact check myself. It seems that, in that timeline, the Black Heart had corrupted the Guardians sent to investigate it; those Guardians presumably including us, given Destiny 1's story. We were corrupted long before Stasis even entered the Solar System there. As an aside, there is a hint there that Stasis cannot be controlled by mere strength alone. What this tells me is that Bungie cannot keep their own story straight. Actually, this makes Lightfall's story even worse, because with this knowledge we should not have struggled with Strand AT ALL.

This. 🤯🔫

@@BungieStudios no way the real bungie omg !!1!

Even still they are fuck1ng it up. I HATE recycled villains. Just give us something new and approved upon previous villains ffs

​@@filipgasic2642 It's so odd to me how whenever they make a new villain they tend to immediately kill them off in a raid but older villains get to have real effects on the story. Nezerac and Rhulk should have been much more important but instead Calus gets all the spotlight as a deciple of the witness. Even the witness is a new villain imo. While he did appear in older dlcs we didn't really know it was him nor see him until lightfall and then he's killed in tfs where all his lore is revealed. Characters like savathun, calus (till we killed him) and eramis get to keep popping up for no good reason. Xivu Arath is kinda a step in the right direction but she's probably gonna die in 1 dlc too.

I've been sitting on this thumbnail foe over a year, I finally get to use it

I thought tha thumbnail looked familiar. Still can't remember what it is though.

@@bro_izzy [My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy By Kanye West (MBTDF)]'s Album Cover

@@entropyx2 Oh I see. Though, I could've sworn I've seen this exact thumbnail before. Idk

Between Bungie living in survival budget mode after leaving Activision and them stretching content, it is a wonder the story was cohesive at all. You had things like the Scarlet Keep being taken from Encaledas (Deep Stone Crypt) and used as a Hive castle in an irrelevant side plot. You had Beyond Light being recycled from a rough draft of Destiny 3. You had Witch Queen which was supposed to introduce Strand. You had Lightfall taking stuff clearly meant for Final Shape's introduction of Prismatic, from the holographic rainbow colors to weapons like Conditional Finality. Witch Queen might have had a fun campaign and raid, but it was significantly smaller in content than Taken King and Forsaken before it. All for the same price.

​@@BungieStudios hmm i didnt know that and it make a lot of sense. I mean..why would i question you? Your are bungie studios official after all.

This is a dumb critique. “Tell me if destiny’s story makes sense without including expansions, which is where the story progresses the most.”

@acoustic_. No, friend. Reread my comment. "Tell me Destiny 2's story ONLY using free intro content AND expansions...NOT content that doesn't exist anymore." That's the problem. The free intro content and expansions MISSING the seasonal story beats? Horrible skeleton of a story that makes little sense and removes most build up and gravity from bigger climaxes. Like Final Shape, for instance. If a person didn't experience Uldren returning as a Guardian and getting his memory back...hell, if all they saw was Uldren killing Cayde, then sees him in the Traveler, what does it mean to that person to see Crow and Cayde making nice? Catch my drift?

@@RedShadowOfSaturn oh, I thought you meant free expansions. I was so confused lol

@acoustic_. I mean yeah, they made 3 of them free when TFS launched, so yes technically, those too. But Lightfall still costs money, I meant that one too. In the exercise, I mean...JUST the expansions and free stuff that still exists, like the intro, NOT seasonal content OR the first four campaigns that were removed. The point I'm making is...the seasonal content that was removed, and to an extent the first four campaigns...help build up a lot of a tension and details in later releases that lose some punch without that context. And since they can't be replayed, how would a new player, who only played the first Forsaken mission, connect the dots to how Uldren (they don't even know he's crow when they reach Final Shape) is an ally leading the charge into the Traveler. 🤷‍♂️

@@RedShadowOfSaturn beyond light is free now? Shit I just bought the legacy bundle

Yeah there are elements of Europa I like, but I don't really like anything about neomuna

@@Nanokk_ I agree with your take on the eventide ruins and how cool it could have been. but for some reason bungie hates vertical maps and city maps which sucks because I think they could make a really good one. also I hate the 3 area map structure they have with a majority of the destinations

"...thirst for your light."

This playthrough was recorded during season of the Seraph, but yeah I played it when it released when it was a harder. But it's about right now

Maybe I should start placing ads myself instead of getting youtube to do it lol

The DLC's setting was supposed to be Encaledas instead of Europa, with the Scarlet Keep serving as the original Deep Stone Crypt. I believe this change was due to budget limitations at Bungie, which forced them to reuse existing assets to meet their DLC plans and prioritize upgrading the game engine. Originally, Beyond Light was intended as a rough draft for Destiny 3. Destiny 2 was seen as a temporary solution since its launch, plagued by bugs, frustrating developer tools, and only basic features. At that time, Bungie was more focused on venturing into the Chinese mobile gaming market with pay-to-win games, which led to their decision to leave Activision, especially after realizing that Activision had generated $1 billion in revenue from Eververse. However, this plan was disrupted when the Chinese government started banning video games. Subsequently, Bungie decided to upgrade the engine and continue with Destiny 2 until ultimately being acquired by Sony. This upgrade wasn't as comprehensive as developing a brand-new game, but it allowed for some quality-of-life improvements without disrupting the game's uptime. In short, Bungie kept changing long-term plans and was in budget mode. So they pinched every penny. The lockdowns had their challenges, but they probably weren't the reason BL sucked.

Real

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I should probably add Lightfall to this comment as well. 😒

Yeah and if you enjoy it that's cool, I have no issue with it. These videos aren't made to tell people you can't like something. It's far from the takeaway one should have when watching

Get some fucking standards. Also, please put punctuation in your sentences.

I agree. I also love Europa too. It’s my favorite destination in the game lol. I can’t argue that The Witch Queen and Final Shape campaigns may be objectively better, I think Beyond Light is my favorite in terms of just the fun I had with it. I personally loved Beyond Light lol

Beyond Light is why I only bother playing one character. I'm too impatient to unlock Stasis for them.

I wish Destiny lore wasn't always such a huge crutch, imagine how good Destiny would be if they... showed this stuff in game

they did. It was just in seasonal content that has since been removed :(

The seasonal content dilemma

​@Nanokk_ lore should be to flesh out the world. Not fill in the blanks of moments the story itself doesn't bother to explain. Which is the one part of Destiny storytelling that really bothers me.

Now imagine a patricianTV level video on D1, it's a work in progress

@@Nanokk_ holyyyyy I can't wait 😂

I get it was an F you to the traveler, it's just dumb lol

@@Nanokk_ true, it just makes her look like a hot head.

Holy shit thank you!! I really appreciate the donation so very much!

Fancy seeing you here redrix

What do you like about how they changed the stranger's lore?

Tried warframe, couldn't get into it. If I'm gonna review any mmo after this it'll be Elder Scrolls Online

@@Nanokk_ lemme guide u through warframe i have like 200 hours into it

It isn't 1 to 1, but yeah it's basically a reskin lol

Same situation with Tormentors and Subjugators. Pocket Sized Raid bosses that introduce a new mechanic or two. Which I actually really like. Only really completely new singular units are the Wyverns and Lightbearers. The rest of the big tanky enemies added to factions are likely downscaled raid bosses

Hey by the way, I made the exact same mistake with Kridis across multiple playthroughs….i legit thought she was the rando in the cosmodrome

Thats the first time I've ever heard that, and I take that as a compliment lol

1. I've stated in every video this series explicitly only covers the campaign, the only execption I'll make is TFS when the time comes. 2. I've been playing Destiny since The Taken King on the ps3, I started playing Destiny 2 during Curse of Osiris on ps4, and moved to pc halfway through shadowkeep

@@Nanokk_ 1. Idk if you meant to but you kinda sound like a smartass here. I get why you don't cover raids- and honestly just covering the campaigns works best for reviews like this, but I feel like having a separate video covering the raids after the TFS review would be nice seeing how they're almost a companion piece of sorts to their campaign. 2. Good shit fr, personally been playing since the D2 Beta.

@@SpankyMcPants. 1. My bad, I didn't mean to sound like a smartass lol. I plan on making a larger retrospective on Destiny 2, where I'll cover the raids and their storylines maybe, I'm still working out the structure

@@Nanokk_ That'll be a good way to round off the series, and probably give each individual DLC a better chance to shine overall

Okay so I originally had this entire response written but then I accidentally clicked back on my mouse so apologies if this is a bit scrambled, I just wanted to get a response out. I appreciate the comment, I genuinely respect spending the time to leave the comment. I find Eramis to be a sympathetic villain somewhat true I guess, I feel pity on her for being so pathetic, but ultimately I find her continued failures to be one I don't care for. I acknowledge I left out the Rasputin part, genuinely I thought it was the Witness that was the reason for the sacrifice, but upon looking it up I was wrong. If I had known that I would've changed it, but I'll keep it noted. Unfortunately one success in a sea of failures doesn't change much for me. But Rasputin's sacrifice is an important moment in Destiny, I won't dispute. I can't attest to Eramis in the lore, since I explicitly don't read it as to not conflict with the campaign scripts, so I'll take your word for it regarding the lore. Also not surprised she fled the system lol Regarding that final point, I think Savathun is being milked. I didn't like that we didn't just kill her ghost when we had the chance, and I haven't been a far of her being dragged around since. Also with that Xol point, I complained that he was pointless as a villain, we already had the warmind, we didn't need a worm god, and the expansion itself agrees with me since he died and it really didn't matter to the larger story of Destiny. Having a character remain for longer isn't the issue, its how its done. For example, how Oryx is handled is something I enjoy, he hasn't been brought back over and over and used several times to push the plot forward. I'd really prefer not to be seen as another November Hotel, since I find that guy to be intentionally disingenuous and complains for the sake of complaining. My Witch Queen video is going to be actually quite long, and incredibly complimentary towards it. Plus once I've made all my videos, I plan on taking all the criticism I've gotten and fixing the issues in a huge video. Your criticism here will be noted. Once again I appreciate the comment

@@Nanokk_ Thank you for taking the time to make a respectful response, that's already better conduct than several big KZfaqrs. I won't deny that Eramis has too many failures, and it does frustrate me to a certain extent as well, especually in season of the plunder in which she can'f aquire even one of the dozen relics she was after, and even in the Rasputin case, she still failed since her target was the Traveller, Rasputin sacrificed himself to stop her, which did a critical blow to the alliance, but it wasn't what she originally planned for. That said, I still think she's a great character because she has some genuine points, the house of light are protected by the last city, but they aren't allowed their own autonomy or sovereignty, they're only allowed to live so long as they play by humanities rules, they're basically a client species like the psions to the cabal and it makes sense for Eramis to oppose that. However she's also someone who could never let go of the past even to the point of self-destruction and hurting the people she wanted to protect, and she's been slowly learning that and growing from it, realising what truly matters and that the future means more than the past. That's why I think she's a great villain, you can map her full character arc, and I do believe she should have died before Final shape, I was dissapointed by Warlord's ruin because I was genuinely expecting a conclusion to her story, and instead we got a fun, but pointless side quest that could have been an exotic mission instead of a dungeon, and Eramis got tossed away in a lore tab despite the plot seemingly building to her, her dying would have also openned the door for a potentual guardian ressurrection, but that was never implied, just a thought. As for Savathûn, I still can't really agree with the idea that she's being milked, so far all her uses seem pretty good and it does seem to be building to something, the one spectre being that way back at the end of season of the Deep, BUNGIE said she'd never be as important as she was pre-witch queen, but they also said the Witness was the biggest bad in the universe and now they're shoving the Winnowwer in, so things might have changed there. I just think her uses have been sparse and important enough to claim she's being milked yet, if she's still doing the same stuff at the end of the next saga, then I'll say she's being milked. And as for Xol, I think the fact was that Warmind needed a villain, and there are a lot of people in the community that didn't care enough about Rasputin for him alone to carry an expansion, and the worm gods are also an important part of the lore. Nokris was also forshadowwed since the Taken King and Xol being the weakest worm god is supposed to make you fear the others, and probably would have succeded had the strike been harder. As for why I said that, I just got the impression from the Warmind video that you didn't like a villain that would die at the end of the expansion, so seeing you upset about one that lived past it raised my red flag, apologies if I missinterpreted that. And finally, reguarding the November hotel thing, my apologies, as I said, I interpreted it as you being upset about a solution to a problem you were also upset about, and that just reminded me of him, sorry, that was overly harsh. I woule like to stress the importance of research, since this video was expansion-focused, misrememberring the Rasputin thing is certainly forgiveable, however I just wouldn't like to see you fall into the same pitfall as EvenF, who neglects to research anything and then frames it as BUNGIE being bad writers, critisizing them for mistakes they didn't make. Generally, I believe in critisizing people for things they did, but defending them when they're accused of things they didn't do, no matter your feelings on someone on the whole, they should never be critisized for things of which they are innoccent.

I told you it was soon

That is the first time I have ever been called Owen Wilson ever

Yeah I'd say I liked it

Who

and that's the punchline

Who

@@filipgasic2642 Siviks? You know? The main bad of Black Armory?

@@-HezSEs- Nah