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rhulk seems like the kind of guy who cant stop roleplaying an edgelord when someone is trying to talk to him normally

The traveler literally broke its eternity of silence to go “fuck you in particular” to Rhulk

Rhulk basically got a sun size flashbang to the face which I find very funny.

the idea of getting dream DMs from a god is hilarious

It always seemed both odd and really fucking cool to see the Traveler go full Old Testament with Rhulk.

Rhulk was really speaking in quotes 😂 mf had me just as confused as the ghost

Something Byf said made me realise that the Traveller died to create millions (?) Of ghosts and that millions of Precursors "died" to create the Witness, just a wee asymmetry between the two I noticed

God I love how mysterious the traveler is but that immaru comment about imaging your god speaks to you but all it does is scream for help is so chilling. Part of me hopes we might hear something like it in final shape

The traveler directly interfered to give us well of radiance bc it knew it was the meta and a must have in a raid

7:18 I love how Rhulk's like "I have worth beyond worth!" He's arrogant but he did earn it. If he had the power of the light, Rhulk would probably be the single most dangerous thing in the universe. He was already at WORST stronger Oryx, at best, he'd be close to the Witness' power (relatively speaking).

7:33 I genuinely thought that was my cat at first

Seeing Crow like this reminds me of why I learned to like him despite what he did in his past life. Deep down, he is a good man...and I like to think Uldren was, too, at one point. Seeing him rediscover that good man here (and for the rest of the game) was a refreshing flip of his script.

The traveler straight up hit Rhulk like your mom does when you try to take something that isn't yours. The traveler is a mom confirmed!

5:56 byfs ghost voice sounds like the 343 guilty spark

Woah I didnt realize the wolf dream clovis had, it basically reminds clovis, "the strength of the wolf is the pack, and the strength of the pack is the wolf" Clovis wanted to be the strongest but by doing so he killed off his pack and in the end weakening himself overall

Hearing Clovis' dream after Saint's makes me wonder if the gardener could have been referring to clovis as the father

Way back in Shadowkeep, when we first approached the pyramid on Luna, our ghost immediately feels something wrong, that something is off. And later on when we first gained stasis, our ghost felt that something was not right. And then in beyond light, we learned that our ghosts are indeed conduits for peracausal power, not just the light but also the darkness, and evidently our ghost has little to no defense towards having the darkness channeled through it. The Witness used our ghost as a conduit twice, and we were powerless to stop it. So the traveler reaching out to talk to Hulk isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility.

There is another instance of the traveler speaking directly to us. If you made a new character I forget which seasons it was but during the new light quest you had a series of meditations that acted as tutorials. During those the quest steps were worded like “you will clear the rocks” “you will slam this” and most metal of all “you will end them”

That entire Hawkmoon quest/story is probably the best exotic mission we've ever had. I had a lot of nostalgia for Whisper but after replaying it I realized how short it was and how much better they have gotten over the years

I think that while the Traveler always had a backup, Crows role as that backup wasn't planned but a happenstance an opportunity to flip a discarded pawn of the Darkness to Light.

10:10 that Nova Bomb 😭 Also find it interesting that the Traveler has given dreams to people, despite the Light being of the physical & Darkness being about the non-physical, consciousness, dreams, etc

The supposed traveller's "THIS ONE IS NOT FOR YOU" Reminds me of the Stormfather from Stormlight Archive for some reason.

It reads as it follows " Hi it's me Ryan Ronald's" 😂Ad got me

The Red War really was something else huh, I almost always forget that Ghaul once held the light and had light supers like the guardians

Dang Byf, your Rhulk and Ghost mannerisms were on point

41:53 When I heard the "like his father" line, my first thought was of something more personal to Saint-14. Something like Clovis Bray being the father of all Exos, or the Speaker being a father figure for Saint. Though I do like the idea of the Gardener comparing people to the Winnower like a disappointed mom

Red war is my favorite campaign because it truly feels like OUR story whereas others feel like we are almost watching. Perhaps forsaken is similar i guess but red war does it best imo

I hope after final shape the traveler will talk to us directly and give us a thanks bro

Isnt it a neat detail that were getting 3 new supers related to the 3 new supers at the beginning of the red war At the start of the red war it showed the Hunter arc staff, Warlock Dawnblade, and Titan Sentinal shield. In the final shape were getting Hunter Storm's edge, Warlock Song of flame, and Titan Twilight arsenal.

I think it’s significant that Clovis’ conversation with alpha Lupi about stealing from the bounty of plenty for self-empowerment mirrors the Unveiling reading about cells stealing energy from others and cancers. I think it harkens back to the Winnower’s anger over allowing for patterns that blight the rest of the garden - it was referring to individuals like Clovis Bray.

1 hour lore video? lets fucking go

The only voice you need to hear is mine, as another settlement needs your help , I'll mark it on your map

off-topic but my fellow warlocks using briarbinds fully relate to seeing Byf grabbing anything but his Void Soul in Onslaught 😂

That one Cryptarch at the Farm in the EDZ had the same vision as us. I don’t know how well that counts as other sources of the Traveler speaking but you know😬

The Ruhlk pain noise was great! Love your reenactments!

Rhulk seems like a Dwight from the office type friend, someone who's always so serious that's its fun to mess with him lol

Interestingly when I was helping out one of my sibling get started in d2. The new light mission learning the light has the traveler speak to you through the mission objectives.

I MUST BE DREAMING A 1 HOUR BYF VIDEO AFTER A BANGER?????

Bro... the Traveler breaking years of silence just to tell Rhulk to "fuck off" is the coolest thing it did since releasing the funny balls (ghosts)

I have a two-part theory why we Guardians haven’t been able to hear the Traveler’s voice. 1. The Gardner within the Traveler has been toiling away for centuries building up an army of dead Guardian legends to aid in defending her Pale Heart. 2. We haven’t been close enough to speak with her, as becoming Transcendent, is how paracuasal beings are able to hear her. Her speaking to Rulk may have been that he provoked her enough to turn away from her preparations to scold/humble him. After gaining the power of Prismatic, we will be able to communicate with her. The last reason the Gardner hasn’t spoken to us? 3. She’s seen many dark futures where we’ve fallen. She chose to stay and will soon speak with us. Because we did everything needed that she’d hoped we do, as a test of our purity, our resilience. To become the light of hope. We: Rasputin, Saladin, Eris, Zavala, Ikora, Mithraks, and so many others, proved to her we are worthy, that we have potential. That this time? We can, and will win. Making Elizabeth, her messenger of the calamity that would befall us every time. So, she stayed in Sol, and put her faith, the final chance, the last battle, up to us. Answering us, instead of finding the answer for ourselves, would have proven us to be another pawn of the Witness, the Winnower.

During the Red War, the Guardian was also called back to the Shard multiple times to rediscover their lost subclasses, and the Traveler used projections and voices of Guardians past and present to help teach lessons relating to our subclasses. It’s my belief that the Guardian wasn’t some special chosen one. Instead circumstances lead to us to become the recipient of the Traveler’s will during the Red War. We woke in the Cosmodrome, which brought us against the Fallen, then the Hive, leading to encountering the Exo Stranger and sending us to Venus, and by extension on a path to the Black Garden. We saved the Traveler twice in that campaign - then our experiences from then brought us against Crota, the House of Wolves, Oryx, and the Splicers. Sheer coincidence - or maybe the Traveler’s plan - brought us from the Cosmodrome, all the way to standing against the Witness in the Pale Heart.

It’s actually crazy how accurate some of these stories are to who God is and how people blame him/ how he interacts with them even when they don’t know. Especially Saints and Clovis’. Gave me chills. Thanks for covering these stories so well as you always do.

The Traveler really said "think fast chucklenuts"

We are ready for the big video! Thank you so much for everything you’ve done for this community and please continue to do it in a way that is healthy for both you and your family!

Bungie removing quests like this, is why new players cant get into the story. So much lore, all so imprtant and relevant, great voice acting and storytelling. All down the drain pretty much.

These old scenes of us getting our visions is extremely nostalgic… I wish I could play again and experience it… too bad I’ll never get to do that

Venextron mention lets go! I love his theories. Nice seeing a small lore youtuber like him get some love!

I know we’ve beaten this point into the ground but it really breaks my heart to see how much of the story content that’s no longer in the game. Wish it was different.

Cannot wait for our FULL context video! Always love playing D2 while listening to the lore

Venextron being mentioned makes me so happy, he has awesome theories for the lore!

Super excited for your new Destiny story recap!

one of your better videos @mynameisbyf you are improving. thank you for always striving for more, for improvement, and to avoid the toxin that is stagnation.

Great video, the quality of your voice work is exquisite. Thanks for hard work

These videos have been great. Just what I needed to refresh my memory, and get my head in the right place as we head into the Final Shape.

Love your thoroughness, I forgot about that quest on Io and I never heard a ton of the lost sector dialogue. It’s terrifying

I'm actually hyped for that total lore video I've been looking for one on KZfaq for a while

the quality of every video you make is always breath taking

You did amazing with the voice work!!

You are sounding great this week. I wear the DSC mark with my Virtuous armour for the best St-14 cosplay

I always wondered a lot about the Traveler or the Light itself when it would communicate to others. On the one hand, Light is physical and Darkness non-physical, so it doesn't really make sense that it would or could do so. But on the other hand, the Traveler undeniably shows that it's conscious, sentient, has a will of it's own, etc. Now with Prismatic and Transcendance, mixed with what we learned from Veil containment, I guess it's just too sinplistic to see the Light and Darkness as opposites and incompatible, but two sides of the same coin. But what that means for the Gardener and Winnower, their fight, and the Flower Game.... I'm not sure if I've finished considering the implications for myself. Also, i wonder if becoming Transcendant will make it perhaps easier to properly commune with the Traveler/ Light/ Gardener. From the trailer, the voice spoke to us after gaining Prismatic, although it was just a trailer.

The woman in saint's vision saying "like your father" and then adding "all of you" makes me think that the father could also be clovis bray, and "all of you" refers to exos in general since clovis bray I created the exo program. However the father of the exos could still also be the winnower since clovis needed darkness in the form of clarity to refine radiolaria into the alkahest (which may also be the radiolaria-like fluid that is leaking out of Saint in his dream)

Just saying your ghost voice might be one of the greatest things I’ve ever heard I want to hear more

I was going to go to sleep. Guess sleep will have to wait an hour

So happy to see more deep dives into the light

i must say, byf does a pretty good rhulk voice 😂

With the book of Unveiling, and the Veiled statues we’ve been seeing more of, as well as the recent intro of the Veil as well, I’m curious to what we’re gonna uncover about these statues, the true gardener and winnower and not just the characters using dark/light for their own purposes or goals for the universe, maybe the veil over the statues is why the traveler hasn’t been able to speak directly to us? Because the witness or winnower veiled them or silenced their voice. Or was it their own doing to be silenced? Interesting indeed.

Watching Byf to help cure my absolutely abysmal attention span.

Byf, you could release a video as long as the complete mythos of hp lovecraft (nearly 23 hours, btw) and I'd watch and support every second of it. You and the lore vault are sole reasons as to why a lot of us even know how much we know today.

Right off the bat, RIP the "Speaker" overall leader of the late cities factions.

Do you think that the Traveler/Gardener transcends time? Elsie states that there are multiple dark futures that she had to experience on loop, maybe the Traveler experiences them too and is why it appears tired with premature grey hair and speaks as if she's seen everything before with lines like, "I've always tried", "maybe in your next life", etc. The Traveler likely didn't experience our timeline alone, but she's experienced every timeline ever for who knows how long

I don't even play destiny anymore, but I still watch Byfs videos. :)

One hour Byf video?! Let’s go!

The fact that the new Supers we get in Final Shape are the same subclasses as the ones we received from the Shard inside the Dark Forest is very thematically fitting. Going full circle from the early part of the Red War story to the start of the final chapter in the Light & Darkness saga.

Ngl Byf did really good voice acting when Rhulk got exploded on lmao

I don't mean to rush you Byf, but I'm still eagerly awaiting the Winnower video you said you were working on.

Your voice acting is awesome.

The Dreams of Alpha Lupi cards from D1 are always interesting. Beyond that the only other communication I can think of is when Zavala used the Speaker's mask in the Dark Future Lore book. It DID choose to run in that timeline. Mara and Zavala chased it with the Leviathan. Awesome lore book. Highly recommend.

u did a good voice over for rhulk

Might just be me, but Saint’s dream totally gives me a vibe that it was his mother checking up on him

Holy shit, all that dialogue from the Traveler hits WAY different at this point in the story.

Great video!

I've done been caught up with the lore. But you bet your buns I'm gonna watch that long video. Thank you, lore daddy

Thanks Factor

7:31 I’m sure Byf had a lot of fun doing that

In alchemy, the Magnum Opus or Great Work is a term for the process of working with the prima materia to create the philosopher's stone. It has been used to describe personal and spiritual transmutation in the Hermetic tradition, attached to laboratory processes and chemical color changes, used as a model for the individuation process, and as a device in art and literature. The magnum opus has been carried forward in New Age and neo-Hermetic movements which sometimes attached new symbolism and significance to the processes. The original process philosophy has four stages: nigredo, the blackening or melanosis albedo, the whitening or leucosis citrinitas, the yellowing or xanthosis rubedo, the reddening, purpling, or iosis

I'd love to see a proper cutscene with the rulk voice actor regarding the rulk/new ghost encounter

My guess why the Traveler likely intervened with Rhulk is that most enemies may be able to study a Ghost but not get critical info about it, but being a Deciple Rhulk may have greater means that may allow him to, thus the Traveler intervened to prevent Rhulk from doing so.

Is this onslaught footage from normal or legend? Graviton is absolutely slaying out

So... this was Crow's… Destiny. All of this... all of this is Bomb Logic, as you put it Byf. From the birth of Mara and Uldren during the Collapse, to their Sacrifice during the Taken King, to Riven's manipulation with the Scorn, to the creation of the new Hawkmoon and Crow being not just a Risen but a Guardian. To now Crow being the key for us to save the Traveler and all of existence itself. All of the pieces put together to give us our chance to stop the Witness. An intricate, complex, chaotic Bomb of Light.

Seeing Io and the ikelos shotgun being a force with out grapple, simple days but still..

You best believe I’m watching that full lore video, despite knowing pretty much all the story any way I will be there

The redux video will be a great way to get people caught up, or if Final Shape knocks it out of the park a primer for new players. There's not many games out there that have 10+ years of connected lore like Destiny. I love the idea that the Traveler has been leaving these breadcrumbs over this long a time as a emergency valve to save everything. I am sure some major strokes of the story Bungie has had in the works for a while but the way they've blended some things in that seemed secondary or more to the main lore is so fun. You don't have to have been here for the whole ride to enjoy it, but there are those nuggets in there for the OGs. The Clovis vision is the most interesting of the bunch in my mind. It almost felt like a Jacob Marly moment where the Traveler came to him and told him he was on the wrong path. It seems that Clovis was far too gone at that point; be it his own ego, the corruption from Clarity, or a combination. It's also been establish that while the Witness is VERY powerful; it is not the Winnower. So, is that still out there? Are we sure the Traveler is the Gardener? What if the Traveler is one of many constructs gifted with the power of the Gardener; almost like conduits to its power? Similar to the Veil; it's a conduit to the Winnower's power? So, the Witness cutting into a source of the Gardener's power with the Winnower's power could very well be something of a paradox and that is how the Witness' vision of the Final Shape comes to be; a corruption of the Gardener's power with the Winnower's.

If the traveler is a supposedly a being of pure light, why does it communicate primarily through dreams. Could it be that the traveler is not purely based in the light? And if that’s the case, what does that mean for the veil?

I'm looking forward to that video

I can't believe I didn't realise that Clovis Bray was almost the human equivalent of the Witness (besides the many people merging part)

Huh...reading that bit of dialogue of the Traveler speaking directly through the Ghost produced two thoughts for me: 1) it's super interesting to think that the Traveler can cause Ghosts to blow up on command, and 2) I can't help but think that the Traveler's actual voice would sound something like Harbinger from Mass Effect. Deep, weighted by ancient centuries of experience, slightly disturbing in its alienness.

" A one hour Byf video? " Yes

45:04 I feel sadistic for saying this, but I would've loved to see his monumental pain after all that he's done.

Hey byf, for your next video, the huge one, I think you may need to check the order of events regarding the battle of the twilight gap and the catastrophe on the moon. Because your old video portrays those events in a way that seems incorrect compared to other timeline sources. I simply want your video to be the most accurate possible.