I agree, also its a very effective meltdown guard.

whichever gives byf the most $$

Agree, smaller vids with a focus on lore.

Agreed. So much about this is very new and therefore the more in depth the better.

I second this

Now imagine how huge the insides of the big ones ( like the ones on Io, Titan, etc) look

Bro it's so scary being in their solo, like you just want to get out 😂

I mean you also have to remember the description of the raid. Its a SUNKen pyramid. I think this pyramid was initially very large on the horizon but because of it sinking it looks a lot smaller

Sometimes, *nothing* is scarier. Coming in to an enormous empty room, and the incredible power needed to make that empty room, is absolutely terrifying.

I was beyond impressed! Smashing through the Scorn at the start, I was utterly convinced it was going to be crazy claustrophobic! Bloody Screebs everywhere lol. Then we stormed the gates, found that big open room, patterns on the walls, kinda "oh ok" moment. One of our team dropped down but died, we thought there has to be a door, there's a puzzle etc. Then we dropped down, being a bit safer at the bottom & then just room after room, all sorts of artifacts & then to the Obelisk Area!! Oh my haha.

100% my favorite raid encounter now because of that. he also talks randomly during his encounter, its a tiny detail but it really sets him apart from the rest of the raids, like hes the real deal.

I didn't like the encounter for the day 1, I think the first phase was too long and too easy to be redone 3 times for the kill

​@@katsenpai6957true, I do like the final stand and the damage phase but I wish it would all be done whilst his attacking you, it would feel like you're a real guardian

Every pyramid contains the victory Royale winner of a race/civilization that the witness found

Imagine Calus, Xivu and Eramis all getting their own ships in the next dlc

I dont think Eramis would be qualified. But it would be awesome

As i am starting to view the Pyramids as the closest thing the Darkness has to Ghosts i don't see why not.

@@peteraustin9057 that actually makes so much sense. Just a species hunger games. Winner gets to live and be a piece on my chess board.

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Same

Hell yeah

gambit is a chance of salvation, take it brother

I'll see you on ifunny when someone asks a lore question

@@garrett_the_guardian5048 aye aye

No reason to feel bad for them, they spent million year genociding planets and solar systems. They don't deserve pity.

@@MonstertruckBadass true, they continued forward unquestioning with blind faith. Kinda like guardians do with the light

@@Afterthought_ Hardly comparable. The Traveler hasn't spoken to us in how long? The Traveler gave us the light and provided us with incredible technological advances. It's a valuable asset and thus in our best interest to protect it.

@@spartacon5267 and the sword logic and the deep gave the hive immeasurable power compared to what they would have without it, it was definitely in their best interest to do what they did, as morally wrong as it is

@@spartacon5267 could say the same about the hive and darkness

Bingo!

I was thinking about this as well. Expanding on what is known or giving a new perspective on something is not a retcon, changing the facts of what was known is. Revealing Peter Parker is actually a clone or Tony Stark was adopted is a retcon. Telling a story about Wolverine before is mutant power activated that was previously unkown, not a retcon.

I think you missed a major plot point in the campaign. The worms lied to Savathuun and about the entire god wave thing. That absolutely changes some of what we ‘knew’ about the history of the hive and by extension, the universe.

@@jonathanschultz4045 the only mention of the god wave originally was in the books of sorry which savathun even mentioned that oryx was an unreliable narrator.

@@turtleturt27 i agree with what you say, but "books of sorry" are Oryx's canadian cousin version lol

Nice name and pfp, + rep

Didn't ask + cope + seeth + ration + rip bozo + your mom

@@andrewtackett8351 aired+ ratio + a^2+c^3/-x= ur mum

@@Ja.floppa Help there are people speaking in tongues in my comment

I agree

They still had love amongst their siblings. However that love looked.

you totally googled it.

Got a few centuries to go before her time was closer to the pyramids than the now

Then it's time we save them all. Break the ranks of the darkness, and begin towards saving its allies. Some, cannot be saved. Such as the Scorn. However, the key 4, might be able to be saved. Perhaps a vex cult, that worships the traveler as opposed to the idea of assimilation. As this cult grows, they see their ranks felled by guardians, warriors of the light. And, we start to see some whose red eye, is not red any more. We see one that's pure white, of vex milk. Radiating. A sign of soldiers that seek to fight for the light. Our light. And, slowly, we gain allies in the ranks. A new base, within the black garden. Allied vex goblins, harpies, minotaurs and perhaps even a converted vex mind.

@@Zynet_Eseled vex cant be convertated to the light because they want to assimilate everything, the hive even if lied to still committed genocide on a level so massive that the universe might not recover from do not deserve "saving". Rescuing the young might be possible but those that have been indoctrinated need to be wiped out.

He is also the only scorn to not attack on sight. Instead looking at the party as they enter the room and going back to his pillar.

@@morganpriest7726 also really like how rhulk hijacks the mission statements at that point, starting with "DO NOT INTERRUPT THE CARETAKER" when you start shooting him haha, thats when i first noticed it anyways. when i replay i gotta check those to see what they all say since i only remember that, the 3rd encounter and 4th encounters mission descriptions.

@@Ahnock DROWNDROWNDROWN

@@acardenasjr1340 could we be… the final shape?

@@drucejnr Yeah, not a triangle not a circle, something in-between. A square?

@@darrylhammett63 Bit too close to the Triangle IMO, might I instead suggest a fusion of the two, a Teardrop?

@@keewardgamingvods Or a triquetra?

One of Savathun's statements in her "Two Truths, Two Lies" was that our destiny lied beyond the Sol System. So...it's definitely possible we'll have a destination like that.

The fact it's basically there as a damn trophy too

@@Itsumi456 And that is just a rib of the thing.

@@Itsumi456 Where?

@@MonstertruckBadass Its Rib is in the first encounter. It's that big bone on top of the pyramid and traveler symbols in the middle of the room

@@Itsumi456 Ohhh, it looked like a hip bone to me

Finally feels like we’re in that one piece of concept art with the darkness architecture and stuff. Loving where the game is going.

It is mentioned in one of Savathun's memories that she says 'The children of the Witness'. So its quite possible we'll be seeing the first of the Veil in Lightfall if not the end of Witch queen DLC.

I know this is really late but there are other alien races that we've never seen before but were mentioned. Some of there were Calus' Shadow's; For example, the Arcborn.

Its a projection of Savathun. In the final mission they are very weak compared to Savathun.

Besides the comment that it was an illusion of her, in the raid opening, note also that she trapped Rhulk away for literally eons, so I wouldn't say she isnt powerful by any means (edit: apparently he was there for eons supervising her, but trapped only recently when she got the light. Thanks for the replies that clarified this)

@@Dalbsinny no he trapped him for like a week after gaining the light 😂

@@quickg3798 I think there’s a reason why that place is known as “Savathûn’s throneworld.”

@@Erihk_ The witness sent Rhulk to savathuns throne world eons ago to make savathun a disciple of the witness, and rhulk also monitored savathun while also making endless worms from worm god mother xita until savathun gained the light. Savathun then imprisoned Rhulk 1 week after gaining the light (hence pre witch queen, post season of the lost) and cleaned all the poisons up caused by rhulk

I'm happy with several focused videos, but I'm also fine with a big video, Several focused ones would probably be nicer on the brain though :P

Same here😭😭. I just beat the raid and was waiting for this vid and then bam here it is😂

Your wish is my feast. O lore nerd mine...

@@cihanbakikok9156 Drown in the deep oh lore lover of mine

Why won’t you get a chance to play the raid ?

@@francisudubor6811 Mechanics in raids are obtuse and asinine

@@MonstertruckBadass actually for the most part it isn't horrible. The worst is exhibition, the 3rd encounter. Everything else is much easier to understand doing it rather than watching it. So give it a week or two and you'll probably find some good sherpas for it.

@@francisudubor6811 busy times at work and the F1 season is starting up soon 😊 free time is a precious commodity

Seeing nazarec as a disciple like rhulk would be cool as hell

I’m totally new to Destiny 2-who’s Nezerac?

@@mrmaxmondays Nezarec is an entity, which we first heard about in the Nezarics Sin ( Warlock exotic helmet) lore tab, it says: "He is that which is end. That which covets sin. The final god of pain-the purest light, the darkest hour. And He shall rise again. When the guiding shine fades and all seems lost He will call to you. Fear not. All He offers is not as dark as it may seem. For Nezarec is no demon, but a fiend, arch and vile in ways unknown. He is a path and a way, one of many. And his sin-so wicked, so divine-is that he will never cower when dusk does fall, but stand vigilant as old stars die and new Light blinks its first upon this fêted eternity." Whatever this means, im not that much of a lore expert, i'd recommend watching a vid Byf made about him.

@@mrmaxmondays it’s a “character” (more like a name) that appeared in 1 lore tab from an exotic (Year 1) and 1 lore card from the Drifter back in Forsaken. That’s it. But somehow even today it’s still hyped as some kind of important character lol Could be a disciple of the Darkness or another name for the Witness if you want... It’s also a reference to a graphic novel (that I didn’t know before this) that everyone seems to miss, Overlord, where there is a place called “the great tomb of Nazarick”, which sound absolutely identical to the “tomb of Nezarec” that we heard in D2...

I feel like he's going to be the Witness' Earth Disciple...which is terrifying.

Well, we know the paraverse exists, thanks to Xûr and Stârhôrsê, and the Stranger's whole deal is traversing different versions of reality, so it would make sense. And given that the Witness seems to be utterly omnicidal beyond the wildest dreams of Daleks, it'd make sense that after wiping our universe clean, it'd hop over to another one and obliterate that one too, and then another, and so on until everything possible is the perfect final shape: a singularity of nothing, perfect darkness. Then, let there be Light.

Cannot wait to travel in the Marathon universe lol

@@davida1229 I'm looking forward to revisiting Oni.

the Witness seems to want mara sov

Clovis Bray did the bidding of the darkness

Although i don't believe it, perhaps Asher Mir for Vex. it is a potential important named vex that isn't dead. But really that's the only reason i brough it up. I don't think every race will have a disciple anyway, Calus and Xivu for sure, maybe Eramis is possible.

Probably Clovis Bray I for Humanity. Or Exo-dom, but he wouldn't complain, especially if he thinks he could define the Final Shape.

Eramis failed, the darkness even “killed” her with Stasis lol If she’s ever breaking free she will probably be on our side...

That’s Xols mum actually

YES PLEASE GOD. im mute and doing this on contest was a genuine fucking nightmare, normally i set up a soundboard for callouts and set them up on like, my numpad based on directions so theyre easy to remember. 25 interchangable symbols completely fucked that setup and i was more or less forced to add clear 2nd and 4th encounters.

@@Ahnock Wow, me and my friends were all saying to each other on contest night, that this raid was going to be damn near impossible with in an LFG fireteam, seeing as people often run without a mic. I'm sorry for you, that's really unfortunate in this raid. But I also like the fact, that it's not just clearing adds until the big bad spawns. Callouts and teamwork are supposed to be a big part of raids and as long as it doesn't get overbearing, I am fine with the symbol usage.

@@Ahnock Honestly most of the raids have absolutely obtuse mechanics, most people don't enjoy them I think. The ones in dungeons are fine, they are simple enough yet important to get to the end.

I’d love to play them, but my first raid and only raid took 5 hrs. That’s just too long. People joining and leaving…what a pain. Then I got mediocre loot.

I could be wrong but isn't it fairly likely that the Witness tasked Rhulk with killing the Traveller the first time round? Savathun saved the Traveller by playing a trick, Rhulk could've likely annihilated Savathun with a click of a finger yet Somehow she imprisoned him? You're right, Rhulk isn't as good as he thinks he is.

@@Perkustin I mean, I feel that its pretty likely that either no one but the Witness would be able to kill the Traveler or no one would be able to. Considering the story of the Gardener and the Winnower and presuming that they are stand-ins for the Traveler and the Witness (pretty likely considering that we call Mercury a "garden world" after the Traveler came) it seems most likely that the reason the flower game is even getting played in the first place is because the Witness can't kill the Traveler or vice-versa so they engage in a proxy war with Disciples and Gods. Either way though, I highly doubt that Rhulk's imprisonment was himself having less power than Savathun or anything of that sort. Rhulk could have probably blasted the Leviathan, something stronger than all the worm gods combined that created the hive, to shreds in an instant had he wanted. But, I think the main problem for Rhulk in this particular scenario was that he was in Savathun's throne world, of which is not only her personal mindspace but also is completely bathed in light. Now, those things might only put her on par with Rhulk in this exact scenario, and likely sustaining that barrier took enough out of her that the guardian was able to kill her, but it would still allow her to maintain a barrier. Although, had she tried to pull that trick out in the normal world, I do feel that Rhulk would have absolutely mopped her if she had tried to trap him in her ship like in the throne world.

Best raid?

@@yusaidit5311 imo this raid was amazing, probably one of the best in the franchise (if not THE best...)

Rhulk was the last of his species, he killed the rest of them

It's going to be all sorts of unique enemies with the disciples, it seems they use local races for their own purposes

@@atypical-bass1966 ah ok. Sorry, kinda overlooked that. But, seriously? That’s cruel.

@@hellothere-dk4gg definitely. It’s probably gonna be similar to The Covenant or The Banished from Halo, where this “Darkness race” isn’t gonna be a race on it’s own, but an organization of unique alien species that’re basically drinking The Witness’s “Kool-Aid”, if u catch my drift.

@@celestialspartan1176 it would be cool to see some less anthropomorphic aliens, maybe some really wacky bosses