Nice job cult leader to ignore her logic. You're leading blind people down a path of utter inept without considering her evidence. Bravo...

@@MrNickb21 you didnt even watch the video

@@FriedHedgehogBallsI envy people who haven't met you yet.

@@MrNickb21 you subscribe to a lot of thots man

@@frostbite3318 You look like a before picture.

Throwing yourself into a pit with a hungry boar 🐗

I don’t even know what that means but I’m ready for the show 👍🍻

If you favor your career just don't debate him, dudes power level is insane

o7

@@nicememes7570 except Hasan. Their debate ended their friendship and since then Hasan has become a millionaire. So…

Banger comment LMAO

BRUTAL

God, it’s brutal out here

True

😂😂😂😂😂

I kept waiting for her to go "Nice day for fishin ain't it ?"

Damn that’s so accurate.

Her position was simple. Always practice gun safety. Only the stupid (Destiny and you) tries to argue when its ok to NOT practice gun safety. Destiny put himself in a ridiculous and stupid position of trying to justify when its ok not to practice gun safety. Of course there is no justification for something like that. Which is why he ended up rage quitting like a pussy after yelling at the top of his lungs like a lunatic. I never seen a dude get his ass kicked by a girl this badly before.

@@madkabal everyone agrees with that. The argument was about how gun safety on a film set is different than gun safety irl/on the range. Destiny’s position that it is different on film sets, her argument was that Alec Baldwin bad.

@@upd0g1 No his argument that its OK for it to be different. Her argument is that it's not. Gun safety is gun safety no matter what you are doing.

Bad faith with a mix of "No prior knowledge"

@@Vulpes_Shinbi She's as incompetent at her gun instructor career as she is at her scientist career. It's almost as if she just pretends to have expertise in whatever subject is being discussed, hoping that people just accept her ramblings as fact.

I think the episodes are becoming boring in later seasons because they're too predictable, the answer almost always turns out to be "both"

yeah but, no one can top Destiny. He is an expert at everything lol He processes information fast logically consistent can be pro at anything Instead he streams to a retarded twitch audience while playing games

@@Muji-Exempt you don't have to be an expert to tell that woman is pretty damn stupid lol

That is very curious

@@Muji-Exempt He destroyed her with FACTS AND LOGIC

@@Muji-Exempt based

lmao

I fucking lost it with the "they direct the camera" bit

*ross voice* PIVOOOT

@@kevinweaver2445 Real LPT, just add a weird superlative as the modifier for your job title on your resume and no interviewer will ever confirm with anyone but you

@@WildWhiteNacho like that one Pure Pwnage episode where Jeremy gets a job? 😂 "I ensure the proper location of various products." "So you stock shelves?" "Well when you put it like that..."

Let me tell you about this woman called Lav 😂

@@DragonHuman00 yeah rigth lmao

Yeah, sometimes it feels like I'm playing Ace Attorney when I'm listening to her.

She's either really dumb or just cannot admit to being wrong.

@@rogersmith996 I'd argue its the same either way.

She does that every single time. "I didn't say what I just said." She's a very good liar and it's frustrating.

I lost so many brain cells watching this I probably don't have enough to finish coding my game

Thank God we have someone so smart giving all of her opinions out for free.

@@TheGIGACapitalist my student loans were a waste. I really need to subscribe to her!

@jason lee ehhh lol

A real life Barbie doll. Just as pretty and stupid.

@@chaseeby100 not only is she competent but she’s also a “centrist” - AMAZIN

he is at fault, he pulled the trigger and shot and killed someone

@@madkabal watch the debate

@@great_ape9791 I did she laid out her points and all he did was shout at her "you're being psychotic" The entire time and then he raged quit like a pussy it's clear who won and clear who lost.

@@madkabal Wait but he was told the gun was cold. Why isn't it the fault of the person responsible for the gun on set? Alec was told all the procedures had been followed and he was safe. Actors aren't expected to open up every prop they get to make sure it's safe

@@mikehawk9531 That's not how gun safety works at all. You don't take someone's word for it that's just not how it is. And if we're talking about protocol it's been revealed that the actor is supposed to be shown that it's clear and shown that it has blanks in it not simply told by someone else who didn't even clear the weapon himself because that's what happened, That the gun is clear. That's another strike on him it wasn't even the armorer that said it was a hot gun it was the assistant director someone who has not even qualified it to be handling the weapons in the 1st place he just grabbed a gun from her As the producer he also knows this too. In short when someone who isn't supposed to be hailing the weapons gives you a weapon and says the weapon is clear and you Just go with it you a moron and you are absolutely responsible for whatever happens when you pull the trigger.

Destiny kept pressing the A Button, what did you expect.

On CNN, a film propmaster named two ways the "aims at the camera" shot can be done safely. One, they get the shot they need just blocking the actor in place, turning on the camera, clearing everyone away from the camera, getting the shot, and then the gun is safed and the crew returns. The other way is to have the camera set up at 90-degrees and using a mirror at 45-degrees. Also, ONLY the propmaster and actor are supposed to handle the guns, and the actor is not supposed to mess around with it (open it, drop the magazine, cock/uncock, rack bolts, etc). You could have a scene with 20 guys on set with firearms, and you can just imagine the potential for disaster if all of them start fooling around with them while they're setting up the scene. The propmaster is responsible for clearing the guns and handing them off to the actors, who take the word of the propmaster.

If there is person behind the camera, you are pointing it at both... Which is obviously the case. Because two people were hit.... This is part of the knowing your BACKSTOP part. The camera existing is irrelevant. SOP is irrelevant.

@@rpgtrainer It's hard not to get frustrated when you're arguing with someone as stupid as the person he's talking to here lol. She literally refuses engage with the things he's saying and asking, so she keeps going off on unrelated tangents when he pushed her on a point.

It’s pretty obvious to me that she rushed to a conclusion to make a right wing talking point on twitter and then was forced to defend the shitty point over this debate so she wouldn’t lose face.

I know it's extremely misogynistic and maybe a hot take, but i feel like her looks play a big factor in no one challenging her absolutely insane arguments.

@@rynethorup5690 Definitely. It feels gross saying it, but i can't help but agree.

Zherka Is 100% right in this issue, hot girls build echo chambers of orbiters so they think they are always right and smarter than they actually are

@@Jay-qu2bc I don't even think you should feel gross, it happens. They're only at fault for not keeping themselves in check. It seems like a very easy hole to fall into if you're going to talk about issues, a bunch of people come and back up your opinion cause they already agree and because they're attracted to you.

Alternatively, if they were shooting a low-angle shot if he was aiming directly at the camera he'd be pointing it at the floor. Instead, he'd point the gun above the camera, as though he was aiming at an actual person behind it.

It's a little known fact that Alec Baldwin is an expert marksman and has perfect aim.

How do we know it wasnt? we still dont know every single detail, which was Destiny's entire point.

@@Blankfbuser correct. I agree with destiny 100%. Im just saying that if we grant that assumption, it still doesn't get us anywhere. A lot of these claims being made just feel like desperate attempts to make Alec (a target of bias political mudslinging) as liable as possible for the sole purpose of political defamation, rather than real accountability.

This one question honestly proved she isnt a gun expert at all

Hardcorr Henry is one of my favourite movies of all time. IDC that it is not popular!!

Movie set is not a shooting range. This chick cannot comprehend there are spaces in this world running on different rules than her little bubble.

@@mikek9297 And so we have people being shot unnecessarily due to a lack of respect for/understanding of the tools being used.

@@michahsimmons7568 Yeah. We also have kids taking their parent's gun from home to school and shooting their classmates, but don't dare utter the word "gun safety" then ! No, that might be political ! But when a lib actor gets accidental discharge on a gun that should have been pre-checked it's suddenly election time again for open carry soccer moms... fuck off !

@@mikek9297 You read a mile into the inch I stated... If anything there should be MORE gun safety on acting sets precisely because of this type of outcome (my opinion is that live firearms shouldn't be used on set, let alone live ammo (I can't understand how live ammo rather than blanks would be necessary)). That said, wide-spanning gun reform enforced to solve specific problems is not the answer, and this situation is far removed in terms of practical solutions to the one you espoused. The incidence rate of misuse of firearms within families that practice preventive safety training is less than 1% of those who do not. The same statistic pretty much holds true, to a lesser degree for other tools/equipment in industry. I'd be all for mandated training prior to distribution of firearms (I underwent training for my conceal carry prior to purchasing mine, for instance, and regularly train on a range due to the responsibility I believe retaining such a tool comes with).

I feel like this is one example of many in this video where shes just responding before she thinks. Especially since she made up her mind and is just repeating a script lol

She didn't think that. She didn't engage with it because if she would it makes her look stupid

She’s terrible at arguing lmao

It’s a freaking .45 long colt, a massive round, powerful penetrator. Her being versed in firearms, it was embarrassing that she cast doubt on all of that

And then later she repeated the line of "of course he pointed at the director how else could she have been shot?"

THE FOUR RULES OF GUN SAFETY ARE THE FOUR RULES OF GUN SAFETY ARE THE FOUR RULES OF GUN SAFETY ARE THE THING I LEARNED IN BOATING SCHOOL IS ....*PANICS*

@@Pineapple_Predator im fuckin crying 😂🤣

The actor should take precautions if he's going to be pointing the gun

@@Pineapple_Predator THE THING I LEARNED IN BOATING SCHOOL IS

I agree…

And a GAMER!!! Truly the sigma female.

The patrick wallet meme would be pretty appropriate at a time like this

Regardless if it was murder or manslaughter, a person died and it was the result of Alec Baldwin shooting her. Whenever you handle a firearm, or hand it to someone, always open the action immediately, and visually check the chamber, receiver and magazine to be certain they do not contain any ammunition. Always keep actions open when not in use. Never assume a gun is unloaded. This is without exception and should be taught to actors as occupational safety training whenever the hazard presents itself, i.e. whenever the weapon would be handled. A film producer is a person that initiates, coordinates, supervises and MANAGES the creation and production of movies. Being a producer, Alec Baldwin was also responsible to manage the safety of the workplace and for hiring competent individuals. He was responsible for hiring a negligent armorer for his set. He is responsible at every angle.

@@BillyCardano do u want a hug?

I also reached that conclusion by realizing I know nothing about filmmaking

She's asking for more safety and awareness, not ''regulations''. Calm your agenda down, you're salivating.

@@sHmAaa curious on how you "add more safety" without regulations. All ears.

Yeah but hollywood libs bad. Responsible gun owners good.

​@@CreepyPastaHorrors There's this thing called responsibility when handling something dangerous like a gun? Or even a car... Maybe you are familiar? All ears.

@@sHmAaa You need to pass tests in order to even drive a car legally. There are massive amounts of laws that you must obey when driving a car. The vehicle has to be inspected, insured and the driver must have a license. Driving is harshly regulated. It is a false equivalence. Responsibility bro ever heard of it derrr. That is your argument

King Crimson is a powerful ability.

"ive always said three people is the important number, always"

If YOU are going to be handling a firearm YOU should check it yourself regardless of whether or not somebody else did. This is basic firearms safety, kiddo.

@@jimbeam8338 but we’re not talking about just basic firearm safety, we’re talking about firearm safety ON MOVIE SETS. The protocols are much different when on a set because you’re doing things that directly go against the 4 rules of general gun safety. Pointing guns at people, having your finger on the trigger, etc. Unless you can show that the protocol on a movie set is that the ACTOR has to also check the gun, you’re talking bullshit

@@jimbeam8338 if the gun was loaded with dummy rounds, which is very likely, it would look the same to a visual inspection. Alec would have had to actually remove and reload rounds to check that.

@@jimbeam8338 what if the actor doesn't know how to check a firearm themselves? Seems like they should have an expert or something on set to do that shit for them right, kiddo?

But school shootings every other day means less regulation law should be passed in these right wingers mind lol

She also posted a tweet saying how few deaths in Hollywood there have been since Brandon Lee when making an argument against blanks being banned. She really wants it both ways.

Yeah, specially considering the sheer amount of shooting scenes recorded every year

@@ashina5924 Did you know that when a person commits suicide in the parking lot of a school at 3am it's classified as a "school shooting"?

@@ashina5924 School shooting every other day also only exists in the minds of morons

what really drives me nuts about her and people like her ("centrists") is they will say they agree with you even if it compeltely contradicts the thing they said less than 10 seconds ago just to make it sound like they are being the reasonable one

'lack the maturity' being the key here.

When she first heard of this issue, her immediate thought was alec baldwin is anti gun so therefore i have to go against him before hearing the evidence. Her bais to convict him came first before her curiosity for evidence.

Yes, I agree, that destiny is a girls name

That's definitely where the "psychosis" comes from. This thing Destiny is saying about his debate opponents missing the point or being unable to engage with basic questions is simply because the opponent knows if they answer honestly, it's a mark against them, so they have to attempt to redirect. As you say, they don't have the maturity to just admit fault - they're childishly more concerned about "winning".

You don't always have to agree with your tweet word for word after getting critique

Pain meds can cause psychosis

I need some pain meds after watching this

While arguing that black james bond is stupid.

Well, fuck, you really gonna have me defend her? Your point is mute, as she would argue that the camera and operator need additional protection for those shots. That's why destiny went to scenes where people are held hostage at gunpoint, to show the lack of extra protection.

@@MikeTall88 bro mad as hell, calm yourself. I didn’t hear her making that extra context when i saw her first bring up her point in like the first 20 minutes of the video

@@MikeTall88 it's moot dude, not mute it's also a joke. chill

@@henhicktaimon Whats the joke?

Me too

The world of debate lost in this one. Destiny didn’t even attempt to steel man her argument. They both got emotional and she’s garbage at debate obviously. They both lost IMO and the whole thing was basically nonsense. But entertaining nonetheless.

That's her debate tactic. She's an expert on everything too.

@@travissmith2092 what exactly is her argument lol

Might be the case that she was in bad faith but it’s hard for me to believe that people like her are smart enough to argue in bad faith. It has to be them not understanding what is being argued. I can’t actually believe that some of these people are that good at arguing in bad faith.

@@darkwolf9ball yes it matters who's responsibility it is and you obviously don't know how a movie set works. There are 1000 moving and dangerous pieces, tight deadlines, every single participant cannot confirm every single detail. This is not the same as a fucking gun range.

Meanwhile never once noticing that in the militarily are vast majority of them just do what they are fucking told; so when they get out they are like children who are like "I'm da oldest! You listen to me.."

Movie set does not equal gun range/military I think that was the whole point and what he was trying to get through her head.

@@darkwolf9ball the gun on a Hollywood set goes through more checks than in a gun range. The point is, we absolve responsibility from the actor because it’s the responsibility of the people specifically hired to take gun ownership and handling. Take responsibility for your job is important right ?

Most guys i met at meps couldnt pass the asvab test and were on their 3rd try

otherwise there would be no point in shooting contests. or even basic training.

@@cartoonsandcereal3413 ever shot a pistol? It’s easy as hell to miss

@@cartoonsandcereal3413 Or unless someone handling the gun could have bad aim, which isn't uncommon, or could have prematurely fired the gun.

@@cartoonsandcereal3413 I think it's more that the implication when saying it was "aimed at her" IS that it was intentional. It's more so that the whole thing was an accident that didn't happen because he was aiming it towards the camera, which is probably something he had done dozens of times before this incident. That's the nature of using guns on a set like this.

@@cartoonsandcereal3413 no, we haven’t gotten enough information to know that yet. That’s the problem. It could be the case but we can just wait and actually find out instead of speculating

I would be shocked if he continues this movie or does anything else with guns going forward. This has to be so devastating to him. Can't imagine the chaos on set trying to save that poor girl's life. People like movies with guns and I'm sure Baldwin loves making movies (and money I'm sure) so he made movies people enjoy which sometimes include guns. Westerns specifically are even history based. I doubt you'd ever see Baldwin involved with something like the 2009 film "Rampage".

He will probably double down. I'm not blaming him, but people tend to revert to defense mechanisms in times of trauma. He may blame the gun itself, gun culture for 'forcing' him to make the movie, probably say something like "if the gun never existed this wouldn't have happened". Its already familiar to him and easy to grasp on to. The levels of projection I have seen in medicine are astounding.

She has zero self-awareness. She's not even aware of her bias.

Baldwin is a producer and the one who pulled the trigger. He is more responsible than anyone.

I finally understand how he gets his women

The point is, you can't point a gun at people

Honestly I too have had people and conversations that can be summed up where I will say "so it's X?", and I get a response of "no, it's X". It's indicative that the person has their own train of thought and literally didn't register anything you said.

@@rocketrelm1125 its a thing about fluid intelligence and short term memory. Some people are incredibly bad at fast, spontaneous thought processes. This doesnt explain why she still denies the same shit after its explained 30 times but it does explain how she responds in these completely illogical ways. In short, she kinda dumb.

So you guys don't see a distinction between pointing a gun which has been confirmed to be non-functional (a condition the person holding the gun will always be ultimately responsible for, regardless of what he/she is told by others) (not necessarily reckless) versus pointing and shooting at people without such knowledge (definitively reckless)? If her whole point is that Baldwin is more of a danger due to lacking the necessary understanding to distinguish between these two situations such that one could consider seeing him as holding no accountability, her distinction between these two conditions is rather clear to me. This debate seemed to me, in many instances, to lack any intent for understanding the opposition's position (ungenerous interpretation of what is being said, following by inferences of unstated/unintended implications).

Lawyer arc

lol I mean Destiny's argument is "maybe, maybe not". But I guess he's innocent until proven guilty in the name of the law, so unless the court could find any more info, he would be freed

@@JeyPeyy bro I was legit just tryna like read your comment and understand your point but then for a solid minute my brain got fucked by your username and profile pic and at this point your comment doesn't matter to me I just really need to know wtf your username mean is it Sham-poo is a Sham like a scam or is it Sham-poo and the name of the shampoo is sham or is it a play on words for a real brand please tell me

@@JeyPeyy The burden of proof being on the side of the prosecution is precisely the way American Court works by design. "it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer" -Benjamin Franklin.

@@PixelMixels im cking dead

I didn't knew there were that many women in pharmaceutical industry, who also happen to be hot, and a boobie streamer, and also are bold to be a gun instructor and is a conservative at the end of this tirade.

plus she’s white

guns aren't political unless you're a liberal

@@vvvictoriav5958 all the Alec Baldwin bullshit from right wingers proves that :p

@@vvvictoriav5958 politics aren't political unless you're conservative

I wonder what she'll claim to be next

Blind people in the comments, gotta love it.

She is though, with guns at least. She just can't understand that gun safety on a movie/television set breaks all those rules and operates with a different set of safety protocols. She smells of NRA Certified Instructor at a Fudd range.

@@MrNickb21 ok 'nick'

@@Momus121 You've not been yourself lately, we all notice the improvement.

I agree that people often feel that way but I disagree that it would have been rhetorically effective here. Besides, when a person is that worried about looking bad, it's safe to assume they're arguing in bad faith. You don't win a debate against someone arguing in bad faith by being charitable.

@@agenerichuman Ah, I see. I was looking at this as a conversation turned argument rather than a debate. Idk anything about debating.

The words are reaching her ears but not her brain.

Next level comment.

This should be pinned honestly.

As a psychology enthusiast, I can't help but see how this behavior of hers bleeds into her real life, if not a big component of it. Is it contributing to her single life to being a single mom? Is this reflecting the social opposition towards 'submissive' traits or practices where it's desired for a feminine partner in general cases? How was she raised? Does this go towards bad decisions? Lack of self thinking? Is this why she goes towards guns and instructing, for power or to be right?

@Gersub i agree with you. I don't think after 1,5hrs that a rational person would behave that way. However you claim that she knows she's wrong, this is where I'm insure, and this is where I agree more with Destiny about the psychosis. We can't 100% know. Only she knows if she's being genuine or not. It's so hard to know whether or not someone is actually going through psychosis or not, or if they are just being irrational due to their ego. I think that we probably will find out within a couple of weeks, hopefully she will walk her word-vomit back Pisses me off so much each time, I'm glad to see Destiny fighting back.

Yeah the visual presentation is sick

LOL right? She's destroyed in 60 seconds, the actual 1.5 hour video is a fucking victory lap.

@@markallen6433 A victory for BX and owning Destiny. Yay!

@@MrNickb21 lmao good one

@@MrNickb21 Do you need help finding anti psychotics and professional intervention? I guess that's what we are doing these days.

Are you going to call Destiny a cult leader? Blind following blind.

Why not? They have to be, don't they?

She's also a scientist yet only has a bachelor's in biology and her job is streaming... so in her world you might as well lmao

@@MrNickb21 Anyone who thinks Destiny's audience is always 100% behind him like some cult has clearly never watched Destiny lol

@@Andrew-fi1sd Yeah nobody hates Destiny more than his fanbase for real LMAO especially with his food takes

I feel the same way about Destiny. He grifts so much.

@@Jack91790 why did you censor it and spell it wrong

Maybe she's too proud to admit she was wrong

@@sebastianflores1925 Channels have a setting that removes comments with blacklisted keywords. Not sure if *_"violence"_* is one of them, so let this comment will be the litmus test. _edit:_ Thankfully, it looks like Destiny's channel doesn't blacklist that word. Awesome. I do know other channels have this setting on by default.

@@TXAslingr Grifting is when you say what you believe. I am very smart.

The amount of Destiny simps who riding that man hard thinking he won the debate when Bxbullet schooled him

This video would be 1000% more palatable if that were the premise.

You win.

Then the boyz go wild in the voice chat

720 with two revolvers

MUM GET THE CAMERA

Yeah honestly destiny’s personal philosophical nihilistic egoism and his habit of biting the bullet even when you can tell he doesn’t believe it all piss me off, but god if he isn’t one of the most intellectually honest people you can find that commentates on politics. No bullshit from destiny (And by bullshit I mean stuff that he knows is bs, obviously he says stuff that isn’t true) All in all, pretty refreshing.

I think a lot of people could misconstrue certain things, but I do think the equivocation to the Rittenhouse story is incorrect. Primarily, because the person liable was most likely Rittenhouse if you were arguing homicide by negligent use of a dangerous weapon. My understanding is that a 17-year-old crossed state lines with a dangerous weapon in a state where it is a misdemeanor to possess said dangerous weapon, and therefore was negligent in the handling of the firearm, just by being in possession of it. We knew all of this at the time Destiny made statements on Rittenhouse, compared to a movie set where it is common for employees to handle weapons, and an accidental discharge occurred leaving the question of liability way up in the air. I know a lot of people were making comments that what Rittenhouse did was a 1st-degree homicide or something stupidly similar, but I find this no different to Destiny's comments on Rittenhouse they are both incorrect. Just by having a dangerous weapon where it is in violation of the law is negligent regardless if the discharge would be legal if they were above the age of 18, therefore they negligently contributed to the death of a person.

@@gondotheslayer, have you watched a video on Rittenhouse? But just cause I can. Rittenhouse was 17 with an assault weapon who crossed state boarders. Although he was only 20 minutes away from where he lived in the other state while those you got shot lived 40min-hour away. So how big of a deal is up to you. Next is the lead up. Assuming you don't know anything. Rittenhouse grouped up with a bunch of people who stationed them selves under the idea of stoping protesters from looting and destroying their community business. Rittenhouse was filmed guarding places and also applying first aid to protesters. The shootings. The interaction starts when several men were trying to push a large metal garbage container that was on fire (I think into a gas station). Rittenhouse then uses a fire extinguisher to put out the fire. One man did not like this and got aggressive and stated Chasing Rittenhouse. After running for a bit (cross the street and like two buildings) someone shot 2 shots into the air (20ft behind Rittenhouse). Then Rittenhouse turns around and shoots the chaser (was within 5 feet) (dead) (happened to be a child predator). Then Rittenhouse called a friend (should of called cops). Rittenhouse then starts running to the police line. People are upset and chase after Rittenhouse. Skate boarder nocks Rittenhouse down. Rittenhouse still down gets kicked by black guy, black guy runs off. Skate boarder comes back, gets shot (dead). Man with pistol runs up to Rittenhouse with hands up, then points gun at Rittenhouse, Rittenhouse shoots (hits arm, disabled man with pistol). Rittenhouse finally gets up while still aiming at crowd. Then turns and continues running to police line. Gets to police line and is not heard and informed to go home to stop breaking curfew. Few hours later in home state Rittenhouse turns himself in. That's at least my memory of a year ago and I don't know how much you know (most people wouldn't look it up). Thus just curious on your thoughts.

@@darkusandtoast2207 “Assault weapon” is a made up term, only enforced in a few states. “Assault Rifle” is a legitimate term, and requires the weapon to have the ability to be able to switch from semiautomatic to fully automatic/burst.

ur cute

Turns out Destiny's argument was bad and he triggered himself with his dumb take on this

That’s how most political people debate

Politics is all these people see in every situation.

Here's my take. He is guilty. Not for being anti gun or anything. He's the producer who let people play around on his set. He hired the gunsmith. He was guilty of being negligent. Hanna was guilty of breaking protocol. The director is guilty of failing to double check. And the camera lady is at fault for sticking around a set she knew people were drinking and shooting after hours on a set and had lax safety. It's just all bad.

@@Expertspecter he didn’t hire her

@@Earthad23 I mean, he was producer and financer. He could have fired her. Lol But I get what you mean. That's probably someone else's decision.

Bro, when she said she was a firearm instructor "for years" I literally said to myself "2 years tops" lmao. Same thing when she says she worked in a lab. At best she was a lab tech, or lab aid.

@@thevoidzzz give it time. Someone this stupid handling guns regularly, recipe for tragedy. At least Baldwin isn't too blame lmao.

@@thevoidzzz you either didn't watch this, or are incapable of reasoning

@@thevoidzzz of course they do. You would never point a firearm at someone. In a movie, it happens all the time. Everyone knows this. Pretending otherwise is insane

@@thevoidzzz if an actor activates a pyrotechnic display given to them by the movie people, and someone dies in an explosion, is it their fault?

Exactly, BX is better at it then Destiny. He is a few bricks shy of a load.

​@jason lee Some of us served in the military and police forces, shockingly.

@jason lee Damn high standards vs shit standards.

@jason lee You know just becaue you dont own something, you can still go learn and practise with em right?

@jason lee swing and a miss

Last night's stream was class, stayed up until like 6 watching Destiny go full SquadW

Blind following following, get some eye wash and touch grass.

@@MrNickb21 Why touch grass when you can follow Omniliberalism? 🥶🍦

Nice username, is code for I need help from following Destiny?

you can setup a bat file shutting down your pc after a certain time, i would bet that your sleep will be better without the humming and light :D

It turned out to be Destiny that was making a bs argument. When pointing a gun at someone it's a prop gun, meaning a non functional, can't be fired gun. She was right on so many points even without having all the facts. She even tried to read the screen actor's guild protocol.

Full ostrich

Just depends on how we define best. In terms of changing peoples opinions (what the actual purpose of a debate is), it’s objectively bad. In terms of entertainment? It’s fuckin 10/10.

@@jeremias-serus Normally, I’d agree but bxbullet’s position is so stupid especially on such a simple topic, it’s not worth entertaining. And honestly, it’s fun to see these morons get nuked out of orbit lol

@@raviraju6798 Agree PepeLaugh

Agreed, i think he needs to go hard on these people who are so obviously massively bad faith

To me it sounds like he is using the wrong vowels. "Creyans"

Blind following blind.

@@MrNickb21 Are you just running around calling everyone blind? Do you even know what's in this video?

@@HelixsoulX he’s the trifecta. Dead, dumb, and blind. Its the only explanation a person could have if they’re backing up this chick.

Yo, chill you had me dying at 1 o'clock at night man.

@@MrNickb21 “people agree with someone who doesn’t hold my point of view, and I can’t handle this” Please forgive us blind, for we know not what we do🥺

When it's someone they don't like, it's "guilty until proven innocent". Keanu Reeves is anti-gun too. I'm willing to bet all the money I'm goint to make for the rest of my life that he doesn't inspect the chamber of his prop gun before every rehersal or take.

He really should drop the psychosis thing, it really doesn't apply to the situation.

shouting "your psychotic" and then rage quitting 100 times doesn't make you right. It makes you look like a lunatic who smoked to much shrooms.

@@madkabal >smoked shrooms lol

@@mikehawk9531 I'm only saying that because he said that shortly after the vape he said hes used to smoke a lot of mushrooms or whatever. I don't know I'm not knowledgeable about drugs because I don't do them. If you are knowledgeable about drugs But you aren't a narcotics officer that is not something to be proud of'

@John smith We don't know that for certain. Alec Baldwin has been acting for 40+ years so expectations are high for him. Compare that to a new, inexperience actor. I think she'd go easier on a new actor.

@@williamspears1627 What if that new actor was AOC?

lol his argument was I have videos from films where you see people having guns at their heads. Actors have to check guns when handed to them. Plus supposedly this was a rehearsal and for rehearsals your supposed to use rubber guns.

Doesn’t everyone now?

There are two levels of grifting. One that you do for your audience, like in this instance or Tim Pool for example. The other is grifting for your donors, like Dave Rubin or Steven Crowder. The effect is the same though, they can never afford to have their mind changed about anything. Its all a ruse.

@@jackgenre11 you make even more unsupported claims. What is your source for the claim rubber guns are always used for rehearsals?

Not really, her audience would not notice anything if she concedes. I mean they are watching her. They much be dumb.

Can you imagine dating this chick and getting into an argument about something that happened? LOL

Their collective IQs would overflow and reset back to zero like Ghandi in Civ lol

@@aleczitzelberger8123 You've got it ass backwards. Going into the negative and resetting to the maximum value is what happened with Ghandi in Civ.

@@hawkxlr yep, just reversed it to make the joke work better. It was an 8 bit unsigned integer iirc, which rolled from 0 to 255 for his aggression stat.

@@aleczitzelberger8123 If you need to completely invert the circumstances of the analogy to make it fit, that's a pretty damn poor analogy haha

I wonder why?

Why do people keep saying this? All she said that he is responsible, she never once said he was solely responsible and she conceded that multiple people were at fault.

@@thinkharder9332 agree, if it is under the conditions that all recordings have that rule, which we do not know

And saying "like".

Destiny was just mad from League

@@valravn6777 thats when the best debates come tbh i think the best vaush debates came after league games

Destiny is red pilled now bois

pretty much every debate period

I'm almost exactly an hour in and it has gotten so painful to listen to

@@Steven-rn1oo I looked at the bar at 30 minutes and had to take a breath

Police confirmed that a bullet was recovered. Wth where live rounds doing on a filmset?? This whole story is so odd

@@alexd4566 Alec Baldwin definitely must've snuggled it on set and put the round in to specifically kill this lady after he sent her a dickpick by accident and she didn't want to delete it. Obviously.

The thing that pisses me off about the whole "he should have checked that the gun wasn't loaded" talking point is that in this instance it is super likely that the gun was intended to be loaded with fake rounds. He is using a revolver and pointing it at the camera in what seems to be a relatively close-up shot since he was talking to the people behind the camera. Depending on the type of revolver, you might be able to see if the gun is loaded or not from the front of the gun, so you'd probably load it with fake rounds to make it appear loaded. This is super likely to be the case here. If it is, how the fuck is he supposed to verify that the gun isn't loaded when it's intended to look convincingly loaded for the sake of the shot? Even if he did look at it, he's a fucking actor. I wouldn't trust an actor to differentiate between real rounds and realistic fake ones. That's why you have actual firearm experts checking it.

@@thevoidzzz Yes, I am aware. However, I wasn't talking about blanks. I'm talking about dummy rounds. Blanks absolutely look different, but there are times in a scene where having ammunition that does look like real ammunition but aren't actually live rounds might be important. For example, a scene in which a character is loading bullets into a gun, or a situation where you want to make a revolver appear loaded from the outside. In those instances you wouldn't use blanks, you would use some sort of fake bullet. Often times you make these by just removing the powder from a real round and using the empty cartridge with the bullet still attached. In the event that this method was being used, a real bullet with the powder and primer removed, you would absolutely want an expert to be the one in charge of determining the safety of handling those bullets. Based on this article (www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/10/rust-shooting-alec-baldwin-halyna-hutchins) it seems as though live ammunition was somehow mixed in with dummy rounds on the set and one was accidentally loaded into the gun. There is also mention of a search warrant suggesting that all the bullets except the one that was fired were dummy rounds where the powder inside was removed through a hole in the side of the cartridge, with the one that was discharged appearing to be real ammo that was loaded accidentally, so it seems like I was probably correct in this instance. If this information is accurate, then the fake rounds and real rounds would look almost identical at a cursory glance and you would definitely want somebody with experience and training handling them just in case.

So if an 8 year old actor on the set of The Walking Dead was handed a gun by the armorer & told it was safe & it ended up firing a live round, that's the actor's fault? The kid should have checked it? It would be the responsibility of the person hired to handle firearms, it's literally their job. It's not the actor's job to check firearms. Someone said he's been doing this 40 years? Doing what, having guns handed to him that were checked by someone else that never fired a live round or killed anybody, so it was safe to assume this would be no different? Safety issues that caused the walkout were about masks/covid & maybe as a producer he'll be culpable, but speaking strictly of his role as an actor, it's not his responsibility.

I agree and I would add that people like this woman have a huge stakes to lose sometimes if they conceded their points or don't follow their script of prepared answers. Im pretty sure she would lose a lot of her conservative followers if she looked at this shooting situation in a non biased way. It could also be an ego thing where the person cannot admit they are wrong for fear of how they might look to others

@@godiebeard I'm certain that also comes into play. It's one in the same. She seems to be built on some very unstable foundations but one that can ultimately exist and flourish without if they avoid debates. I may be wrong here, this is the first time I've ever seen her but attractive, gun girl and I'm going to hazard a guess at gamer girl too, then guess the crowd from there. Again, all of that is an image built from the outside in. I'm in the UK and very much considered right wing over here, I've been watching Destiny for some time now to gain an understanding of other thought. It's tragic to watch what "right wing" debaters actually come across as, it's all policy debate, where if the meat? Where is your belief and where did it grow from?

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@@nickm3694 thanks. It's crazy

For real, it’s amazing how many people won’t actually read something before using it as a source.

Amazing how it went from "I read it so it's true" to "I don't care what this article has to say"

I was noticing the same thing.