Detailed Sound Test: Wahoo KICKR vs CORE vs SNAP vs ROLLR!
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2 жыл бұрынHere's your complete test on the noise levels of the Wahoo KICKR (V5), KICKR CORE, KICKR SNAP, and ROLLR. I test the units one after another in the same spot, with a three-tier test protocol, showing the quietest it can be, the average cruising around speed volume, and the loudest it can be. Simple, yet effective.
This is a direct sound/volume/noise comparison between all of Wahoo’s current lineup of bike trainers, one after another. I go through the following units:
Wahoo KICKR ROLLR
Wahoo KICKR SNAP
Wahoo KICKR CORE
Wahoo KICKR V5/2020
I skipped the Wahoo KICKR Bike because it’s not a trainer. Plus, I don’t have one. But I don’t think there’s too many people that are using noise as the deciding factor between the KICKR V5/2020 and the $3,500 KICKR BIKE (and spoiler, noise levels between those two are basically the same).
For each test , I tested each trainer at three different speeds (wheel speed is all that matters for volume on smart trainers):
Slow speed (easiest gearing): This is ideal for ERG mode, because not only is it the quietest on every trainer, but it also increases accuracy/responsiveness in ERG mode on virtually every trainer.
Cruising along speed (20MPH/30KPH): This would be the speed you’d likely be in within a group ride or just cruising along at a good clip.
Sprint speed: This is basically the loudest the trainer gets at the fastest I’m able to make it go (on flat ground).
Within the video, I do each test successively for each trainer, and then towards the end, I compare them rapid-fire style back to back.
Go forth and enjoy!
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@HLaB75 2 жыл бұрын
The intro is fairly good timing for me (a Suito user) I started in Jan to do workouts in the big ring and got my first knock at the door last night and I've been training for 8 years here. I definitely should go back to the wee ring 👍
@ryang3118 Жыл бұрын
Now I know which to choose for apartment living. You’ve been a huge help! Thanks!
@noah3553 Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. Thinking about getting the KICKER v6 since it sounds super quiet. Some say to pay the extra amount for the auto-calibration.
@shinobusensui9395 5 ай бұрын
how has it been so far in the apartment? any complaints, are you sharing walls or ceiling/floor?
@hardmtnbiker 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason I would get the KickR RollR, is to pair with the dual Garmin Rally XC pedals (I have Shimano SPD's on all my shoes my gravel bike, and MTN bikes) The ability to analyze your power on your bike outdoors in comparison with power when indoors. If my training was mostly indoors the immersion and smoother and less noisy ambiance of other KickR trainers when paired with hill simulation and the rest of the Wahoo ecosystem. But at that point you might as well compare to the whole Garmin Tacx ecosystem with sensors and watches too. The bottom line is you can create a entire fitness tracking home and outdoor system that puts all your data on one or several dashboards and if that is motivating and keeping you fit for competition or just Fit4life then it's a win, win situation.
@yijuntey Жыл бұрын
im really contemplating between which to buy, but thanks for this video!
@richardrogers229 2 жыл бұрын
I was booted out (by my family) of my own basement for noise pollution, but it wasn't for the noise the device made. It was for the music and Yak sounds. My rollers and bicycle are reasonably quiet. I have moved to my laneway garage, where I can pump the tunes, and the neighbors don't seem to mind.
@MRDTBOSS 2 жыл бұрын
Wow perfect timing
@dhanyrafael Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Very good indeed. 😃👌
@uk-expat 2 жыл бұрын
I had an annoying click and it turned out to be my seat post. Taking it out, cleaning it and the seat tube and reinstalling did the trick.
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm convinced it's the seatpost as well. Given it only clicked when I sat back down again, it's gotta be that.
@mattk8810 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker use a phone with a partner and record. If you export the file and analyze it, it helps tell where the sounds are from. Do your saddle rails and mount matchup?
@PrathameshBhat7288 2 жыл бұрын
HI5 / Namaste! very nice video buddy!
@TC_Prof Жыл бұрын
Kickr v5 baby FTW 🙌
@youme77324 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks!
@joemathewson4198 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the snap since October and love it. But my tire has definitely taken a beating.
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
That's the sign of some good training then!
@uk-expat 2 жыл бұрын
You should think about a trainer tyre/tire. They are designed not to self destruct with a wheel-on trainer (but of course you can’t use it on the road).
@oranj.h 2 жыл бұрын
@@uk-expat They do eventually wear out too though. I've ruined 2 - the rubber delaminates from the carcass eventually due to heat build up - before moving to a direct drive trainer.
@CarlForde 2 жыл бұрын
@@uk-expat yes, and they will last longer than road tires and run much quieter. Highly recommend
@richardrogers229 2 жыл бұрын
Your fitness has increased at the expense of your tire, that is a balanced equation in my opinion.
@timurkarabay9753 Жыл бұрын
You are the best 👏👏
@darthjohn0 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Tacx Neo 2T because I thought I read it was the quietest...but this video makes me think the Kickrs are quieter. And Kickrs are cheaper. Darn.
@chellination Жыл бұрын
Do you have any recommendations for noise reduction for the rollr? Getting a mat? Having it on carpet instead of laminate flooring?
@Androidfan44 2 жыл бұрын
Ray, does roller have internal improvements around connectivity, more robust Bluetooth or ant+?
@dom252 Жыл бұрын
The rhythmic sound made by the Kickr Core between 5:55 and 5:59 - does anybody know, is that normal, or is that one of the noises caused by the issues that some of the Kickr/Cores have?
@LarsTore 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an interesting video! Would be interesting if you found a way to measure the vibration noise in the floor. Interesting for people living in an apartment or for someone with kids sleeping in the room below.
@Maxwaehrens 2 жыл бұрын
Would also be awesome to see how much a rocker-plate or a similar piece of acessory reduces that floor vibration
@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable Жыл бұрын
I prefer the ROLLR - it masks out your heavy breathing during the sprint 🤣
@chrisobyrne5675 2 жыл бұрын
The bouncing post sprint on the ROLLR would have been something I would have never spotted but all I see now is you trying to sit down as the bike tries its best to evade you!
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
@kovie9162 7 ай бұрын
Just so I understand, the Core's freehub does or doesn't have a ratcheting mechanism so you can coast?
@WillEDC 2 жыл бұрын
I think you earned a big bowl of Ben and jerry for this vid 😛
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Why stop at a bowl? That's what the whole carton is for!
@mattzcp 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the seat post creak. You can hear it when you jump off the V5 and rest your arm on the seat
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I agree!
@saltycycling 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ray. I was wondering whether you plan to address the recently made public Zwift exploit that allows users to change weight within an event and remain undetected. Apparently, Zwift was aware of this for at least two years and did nothing. More recently someone lost patience and published a blog about it, i.e. blew the whistle, and got banned for speaking up.
@GlennboiPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another great review! Do you have a trainer recommendation for MTB? I've been into looking but can't find wider rear fork spacing.
@Maxwaehrens 2 жыл бұрын
How wide is your MTB rear wheels/hub? I know Tacx trainers some with a variety of extra axle adapters for wider bikes.
@GlennboiPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maxwaehrens measeured at 7.5" wide, I will check also with Tacx. Thanks
@MichaelMa 2 жыл бұрын
That roller is loud. Juding by how long you can use it before it becomes too loud for the watts you can put our and you wanting to upgrade to a kickr v5, I wouldn't pay more than 300 for it. Power meter is a good investment though.
@MrHotrod77dave 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do A review on OSPW SYSTEMS . If you gain Some watt with that system yes or no and is it better 4 mountainbike than 4 Road cycling. Because I see now Some big mountainbike name’s running Ceramic speed systems on there bike.Making there bike ready for the cape epic.
@MrCoyotekiller21 2 жыл бұрын
Why do the kickrs make that metallic noise when the flywheel first starts spinning. Mine does it every time on my very first pedal stroke when hoping on the trainer. I noticed yours did also. It has done it from day one.
@randomcakefuck1 5 ай бұрын
Bump
@badassmalakian9854 10 ай бұрын
i have the same noise on the kickr core that imperfection what can i do to fix this?
@TheNovaNorm 2 жыл бұрын
Loving how quiet my Kickr V5 is compared to my gen 1 Cyclops fluid trainer or my rollers. I don't think your light was working properly, maybe not enough "likes"?
@kimwarner6050 2 жыл бұрын
The rollr is so loud. I don't know what they were thinking. I'd buy it for 250usd
@alexgold1981 2 жыл бұрын
Lower numbers on the sprint on the wheel on trainers, looked like similar effort levels. Makes me feel better about my pathetic sprint going from a Vortex + 4iiii power meter to a Kickr core with no external power meter. I assume this is fairly common?
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
I suspect some of it may just be me warming up a bit. :) But, the other more real element is the KICKR CORE & KICKR V5 have larger flywheels, thus, the acceleration feels more real, and my mind/body/legs get a mental boost from that increased inertia realism.
@alexgold1981 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I posted a reply, but it didn't make it through, maybe because of a link to ZP. Anyway, I meant the opposite - the wheel OFF trainers have lower numbers. Looks like you hit 1000 on the snap, 950 on the rollers and only just over 900 on the wheel off trainers. This is in line with my experience, where it's impossible to hit the same/decent numbers on the Core. The link I tried to send was a dual analysis showing this, my 15s power on the Kickr core was 881 while on the 4iiii on the crank it was 942. The 20 minute numbers were basically the same.
@mikeprytherch8875 2 жыл бұрын
My Neo makes a lot more noise when the resistance goes up in ERG, I have the same frame Ray and had the clicking, it was the crappy pressfit bottom bracket, I installed a Hope bottom bracket that screws both cups together internally, no more clicking, recommend them, even if you do need a hope tool to fit them
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to have the bottom bracket click, and then back a few months ago the LBS swapped it out. I think this time it's the seatpost, as you'll notice the click goes away as soon as I stand-up, and immediately returns as my butt hits it again.
@Michael-cj9uo 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Kickr Snap and when using ERG mode I put my bike in quite a low gear. Maybe like 34-23 and it seems to keep the sound down quite considerably. I think its because the flywheel is having to break so much to match the low gearing. Not sure if that'll help with the Neo.
@marcoberlehner5182 8 ай бұрын
Hello people! Hello DC Rainmaker! Maybe someone of you can help me. I normally drive outside with my Sram Rival Axs Powermeter. I now have my bike on the Wahoo Kickr Core. The Wahoo shows a good 10% more compared to the rival. 225W to 205W for example. The funny thing is that the 225W from Kickr feels similar to 225W from the rival on the street. What do you think is more precise? Which device should I prefer? All calibration has been unsuccessful. Would be really grateful for a good tip!Thank you! Marc
@BigBal025 2 жыл бұрын
Probably bottom bracket. I’ve blown through a couple of bottom brackets doing 1,000+ watt sprints on my Kickr trainer. Sprinting probably best done outside :)
@jamesst.patrick5631 2 жыл бұрын
That’s good insight for us who’ve never had one of these.
@robertfeather610 6 ай бұрын
It’s the seatpost
@paradisealan Жыл бұрын
Hello, can I ask what brand is your laptop stand in front?
@Dcrainmaker Жыл бұрын
That’s the KOM Cycling Desk: www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/03/kom-cycling-trainer-media-deskreview.html/amp
@nickybenz8592 2 жыл бұрын
Will the Wahoo Roller ruin my tire like the Wahoo snap?
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not likely. There’s no more than regular outdoor pressure for Rollr, whereas for SNAP, a tremendous amount of pressure is out in the tire for press-on force (which, is what allows it to be accurate as a power meter)
@billias66 Жыл бұрын
Ray what is this traffic light thing shown in the video?
@Dcrainmaker Жыл бұрын
It's basically a decible meter, so it shows the loudness levels in a simpler to understand range.
@billias66 Жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I though it was a training intensity meter and i was looking of a review from you!!😄
@dblissmn 5 ай бұрын
mine's defective out of the box (refurb Kickr V5) on this evidence. It's louder than my cyclops fluid trainer by far.
@coolkid8608 3 ай бұрын
It’s probably normal. These are loud af
@HULKBIGHEAD Жыл бұрын
I wished they added a roller to the front of the road bike unit. That really throws this so called indoor roller out the window.
@conan_der_barbar 2 жыл бұрын
looks like i need to save for a direct drive smart trainer... if only they weren't more expensive than my whole bike is...
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the KICKR CORE was just on sale till Monday for $150 off ($750) - by far the best bang for your buck.
@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I just got the. Bike!
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the bike!
@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t have had the nerve to buy it without the great reviews by DC and GPLama.
@danmiller583 2 жыл бұрын
Someone close to me is selling a used kickr Core for £400, I’m very tempted and more so after watching this. I’m currently on a tacx vortex and it screams lol.
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Take it and run!!!
@danmiller583 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I may do that lol, great video as always DC 👍🏻
@DESPERATEPILOT 2 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from the vortex to the core and it amazed me how quiet the core is. I guess I would have been impressed with the noise reduction in any wheel off trainer but can’t fault the core. The only down side is you’ll now be tweaking your gears set up now because it’s the only thing you’ll hear!! 😂😂😂
@danmiller583 2 жыл бұрын
@@DESPERATEPILOT I’d be happy with that 😂
@livinginsyn4814 2 жыл бұрын
Your kickr snap is WAY quieter than mine
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
The exact tire can make a fair bit of difference (well, a ton of difference). Specifically, the tread pattern. Mine is fairly worn, which is likely helping the equation slightly.
2 жыл бұрын
I changed to a Van Rysel trainer tire from Decathlon. First thing I noticed: how loud ist my chain? 😉 Really, much much quiter with such a tire.
2 жыл бұрын
wheel on trainer
@freebird61885 2 жыл бұрын
First
@Dcrainmaker 2 жыл бұрын
Winner, winner!
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